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Senior Bowl Weigh Ins

My unending argument that Long is best suited inside & natural LG was just confirmed. Despite being 6-6 his arms are too short to play tackle. However this could be key to his dominance I saw watching film playing LG for Oregon. He is country strong with large hands to punch & grab stunning defensive linemen and athletic burst to leverage from phone booth into second level. If Texans drafted him I would expect him to develop quickly replacing Wade Smith.
 
beerlover said:
My unending argument that Long is best suited inside & natural LG was just confirmed. Despite being 6-6 his arms are too short to play tackle. However this could be key to his dominance I saw watching film playing LG for Oregon. He is country strong with large hands to punch & grab stunning defensive linemen and athletic burst to leverage from phone booth into second level. If Texans drafted him I would expect him to develop quickly replacing Wade Smith.
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The hand size is a highly underrated feature . JJ Watt has 11 inch hands , which help you grip , grab , knock down , control , and so on . As a QB , big hands give you grip and control . Some teams think 9 1/2 is minimum .
 
Looking forward to seeing Brandon Williams, DT. Could be a potential late-round nose tackle that we need. Not sure about his conditioning but if he can shed some pounds and pack on more muscle, he would be an excellent player to plug in the middle.
 
beerlover said:
My unending argument that Long is best suited inside & natural LG was just confirmed. Despite being 6-6 his arms are too short to play tackle. However this could be key to his dominance I saw watching film playing LG for Oregon. He is country strong with large hands to punch & grab stunning defensive linemen and athletic burst to leverage from phone booth into second level. If Texans drafted him I would expect him to develop quickly replacing Wade Smith.
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32.5 inch arms aren't abnormally short for a a RT. Winston's arms were 32 inches IIRC and he was an above avg RT. Although I would agree Long would be better suited to play LG.
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
The hand size is a highly underrated feature . JJ Watt has 11 inch hands , which help you grip , grab , knock down , control , and so on . As a QB , big hands give you grip and control . Some teams think 9 1/2 is minimum .
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I noticed Swope's hand size as 8-1/8". That's really small for a WR. I wonder if that will hurt his draft stock much. I really like his heart and toughness as a player. He seems very "gritty."
 
Playoffs said:
Dang. I needs me a Mega!
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There are two guys that are listed at 6'4 : Marcus Davis and Justin Hunter;
But I doubt that it's their true height.

They are both somewhat raw, especially Davis, but they both have good ceiling.

But there are other guys who are listed at 6'3 (but probably won't live up to that measure) or a bit shorter that are quite skilled already.

This class has all the marking of being as good as, and probably better than the last one in both quality and quantity.... I think. More dynamic playmakers.
 
srrono said:
Look at Wheatons (highlight tape on page) Offense looks similar to HOU lost of pap
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I had him in sight since last year, but there were just too many players to keep track of if you want to go in depth.

Like I would make a note about a freshman when I saw the Flash of a great player, but then, it is really hard to stay abreast of everything.

That's why I think it's good to have many people here reminding or bringing one's attention to a certain player.

It's a great past-time but it can also be very demanding.
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
The hand size is a highly underrated feature . JJ Watt has 11 inch hands , which help you grip , grab , knock down , control , and so on . As a QB , big hands give you grip and control . Some teams think 9 1/2 is minimum .
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How is that measured?
 
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10. Markus Wheaton is clearly the best WR on the North Squad. Tracks the ball like Mike Wallace just like the film shows. #OregonState

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5. M.Wheaton and M.Goodwin were standout WRs. Wheaton is a polished rt. runner w/ strong hands. He has tools to be a strong No.2 as a pro.

Bucky Brooks ‏@BuckyBrooks
Goodwin is crazy explosive. Speed overwhelms defenders. Reminds me of M.Wallace from PIT at 1st glance. Big play threat at next level.


Many prospects are said to have Olympic type speed, but Goodwin actually does.
http://www.usatf.org/Athlete-Bios/Marquise-Goodwin.aspx

International Championships
2008 World Junior champion (7.74m/25-4.75)

USA Championships
Two-time USA Outdoor champion - 2011 (8.33m/27-4); 2012 (8.33m/27-4)
Two-time USA Junior champion – 2008 (7.62m/25-0); 2009 (7.9m/26-1.50)

Collegiate Championships
NCAA Indoor runner-up (7.98m/26-2.25)
2010 NCAA Outdoor champion (8.15m/26-9)
2012 NCAA Outdoor champion (8.23m/27-0)
Three-time Big 12 Outdoor champion – 2010 (7.94m/26-0.75); 2011 (8.17m/26-09.75); 2012 (8.19m/26-10.5)
Two-time Big 12 Indoor champion - 2011 (8.10m/26-7); 2012 (7.74m/25-4.75)

Awards and Honors
Four-time NCAA All-American
Seven-time All-Big 12 selection
Texas indoor school record holder (8.12m/26-8)

About Marquise
A jack-of-all-trades, Marquise Goodwin not only does it all, he does it all very well and has done so at a young age. Goodwin qualified for the London Olympic Games following his junior season as both a track athlete and wide receiver for the football team at the University of Texas. He qualified for the 2011 World Outdoor Championships at just 20 years old. He made quick transitions following international competition back to the football field the last two years. In three seasons with the Longhorns, Goodwin has made 16 starts along with catching 91 passes for 975 yards and three touchdowns. Competing for Rowlett High School (Rowlett, Tex.), Goodwin twice was selected the Texas Gatorade Track & Field Athlete of the Year while winning a total of seven Texas 5A state championships (long jump (3), triple jump (2), 4x100m (2)). Competing as a high school senior in the senior division at 2009 USA Outdoors, Goodwin set the national high school record in placing fifth (8.18m/26-10). Goodwin also won both a USA Junior and World Junior title. Passing on his remaining jumps in prelims and the final, he took just one jump to win the USA Junior Outdoor title in 2009.
 
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i cant be the only one, but i truly despise the measurements. by the measurements mario williams is already in the hall of fame, jacoby jones cant catch a game winner, and eric winston barely makes a team. hakeem nicks with 4.4 speed and impossibly large hands should be in a world of his own and wes welker is working at mcdonalds. ray lewis is average at best while sergio kindle is a monster.
 
The measurements may not always tell the entire story, but they are a big part of what you need to look at.

I've watched every UT game since the mid 80's and I never thought Goodwin was all that great or explosive. He would have an occasional run here or there, but he never got open deep. Maybe it was coaching and play calling.
 
Scooter said:
i cant be the only one, but i truly despise the measurements. by the measurements mario williams is already in the hall of fame, jacoby jones cant catch a game winner, and eric winston barely makes a team. hakeem nicks with 4.4 speed and impossibly large hands should be in a world of his own and wes welker is working at mcdonalds. ray lewis is average at best while sergio kindle is a monster.
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Ray Lewis was a 1st round pick . JJ was a 3rd out of Lane , and Winston was overpaid .

Nicks is pretty good , Mario is not bad but he's no JJ Watt , and Kindle was a 2nd rounder and remember Lewis was a 1st rounder . :overreact:
 
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