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no one will take him that high...myabe 3rd or 4thI have been wondering the same thing? Is it because he cannot get into rythm because he doesn't get enough carries?
Can we get a 2nd round pick for him? What a about a first?
I don't think we would get anything better than a 5th round pick for him. He's been hurt two out of three years and any trade value he had has plunged this season.I have been wondering the same thing? Is it because he cannot get into rythm because he doesn't get enough carries?
Can we get a 2nd round pick for him? What a about a first?
He went Vegan!Dude 's been healthy for weeks but kubiak has been giving him limited touches and even when he does get his touches, he's looked bad. I'm talking missing holes and cutback lanes, not able to turn the corner like he did last year...he just looks awful.
He went Vegan!
Tate is signed through 2013.Resign him.
What has he done to deserve more playing time? Bringing Tate in keys the defense that a run is likely coming, as he is a poor receiver and blocker. If Tate is not kicking ass as a runner (and he's not), then the only reason he should come in is to give Foster a breather.I think Tate needs more carries to get into the flow of the game. Coming in for 1 play every 8 or 9 plays (guessing) is not going to do it.
No he's missing lanes...his vision is just terrible...Is he really missing lanes, or is he just not superhuman Foster? I saw Foster makes some pretty ridiculous moves to finally find a lane by pretty much pulling it outta his @$$ yesterday. Tate is good, but he just can't move like THAT. I don't really think the run-blocking was THAT great yesterday. It was good, but not great on the left side, and, IMO, sub-par on the right side.
Granted, that is some kinda D-Line we had to run against...
Alright, well maybe I'll see it when I rewatch the game tomorrow or something. That happens sometimes.No he's missing lanes...his vision is just terrible...
His vision isn't nearly as good as fosters...no ones is. But this season the holes are smaller and evaporate faster. Foster can compensate for it way better because of his vision. I love that tate runs angry, it's fun to watch. He's not nearly as explosive as we've seen in the past. Our line isnt getting to the second level and forcing defensive backs to make plays against the run....and tate eats defensive backs for lunch...or did.No he's missing lanes...his vision is just terrible...
Easy. He's been relegated to third string with Tate back. Forsett didn't get one carry against the Bengals, Tate only got two.Just kind of reminds me of a runaway bull, no vision what so ever.
Better question may be what happened to Forsett. I think he has done better this year than Tate.
I know he is 3rd string but I think Forsett would be more effective than Tate under the circumstances.Easy. He's been relegated to third string with Tate back. Forsett didn't get one carry against the Bengals, Tate only got two.
Some RBs need more than a carry to get going. If he gets 2yds on his first carry doesn't mean he wouldn't be effective over a series.What has he done to deserve more playing time? Bringing Tate in keys the defense that a run is likely coming, as he is a poor receiver and blocker. If Tate is not kicking ass as a runner (and he's not), then the only reason he should come in is to give Foster a breather.
That wasn't the case last year. You put him on the field, cold, he'd break a 30 yard run for a TD.Some RBs need more than a carry to get going. If he gets 2yds on his first carry doesn't mean he wouldn't be effective over a series.
No he's missing lanes...his vision is just terrible...
Yeah, i think on some level too his problem is that he hasn't figured out that he is that "thumper" back for us. Too many times i've seen him try to make and arian-esque cut & he doesn't come close & gets tackled for a 3 yd. gain when he should've just lowered his head and pushed the pile for another 1 yd or so.It's been better but then last year the blocking was better too. The lanes were bigger and maybe a few times he "guessed right". Tate is I think a pretty good back but he's not at his best here. Behind big hogs just straight up powering their way down the field he'd be a money in the bank. One of those guys who consistently pounds the rock for 4+ yards a tote all the way down the field.
Until he got hurt. Again. He runs like a monster but you're right, he doesn't have the vision to really create much and on top of that he doesn't look to have a durability that a true "thumper" really needs.
well if that's his problem he's dumb...he's been injured 2 out of his 3 years in the league & hasn't shown any kind of durability to warrant being a feature guy anywhere.Just pure speculation on my part, but I don't think he wants to be here as a back up RB. He was drafted to be the starter and tore his ankle up in pre-season. Hopefully he doesn't blame the Texans for not waiting on him.
Oh he will. All these athletes do when they leave their original team.Just pure speculation on my part, but I don't think he wants to be here as a back up RB. He was drafted to be the starter and tore his ankle up in pre-season. Hopefully he doesn't blame the Texans for not waiting on him.
1000 yds over 16 games is only 63 ypg, hardly earth-shattering. Just for comparison RG3 damn near had that in rushing this year.......as a rookie. The only reason he got 1000 in the 1st place last year was b/c Arian missed 2 games last year & sat out the last game against Tenn...This vision crap is ridiculous, he didnt get 1000 yards last season with lack of vision and he didnt suddenly lose his vision....He isn't getting into a rhythm and he could still be hurting...who knows, but his vision isn't the problem
he started 2 games and came off the bench in the rest, if 2 1000 yard backs is "easy" then why dont more teams have that? because its incredible.....thats why...his vision is fine, but something is wrong....1000 yds over 16 games is only 63 ypg, hardly earth-shattering. Just for comparison RG3 damn near had that in rushing this year.......as a rookie. The only reason he got 1000 in the 1st place last year was b/c Arian missed 2 games last year & sat out the last game against Tenn...
I don't think he doesn't want to be here.Just pure speculation on my part, but I don't think he wants to be here as a back up RB.
\he started 2 games and came off the bench in the rest, if 2 1000 yard backs is "easy" then why dont more teams have that? because its incredible.....thats why...his vision is fine, but something is wrong....
Remember Eddie George?
Another hint Javid Best.he started 2 games and came off the bench in the rest, if 2 1000 yard backs is "easy" then why dont more teams have that? because its incredible.....thats why...his vision is fine, but something is wrong....
Oh, shyte, I don't know where my brain has been. I didn't snap to Tate having turf toe. That's a horrible injury.Turf toe has taken down many a RB...
Of course, there's nothing wrong with Tate.Nothing wrong with Tate. Considering he's coming in cold and having to adjust to on field game speed he still avg the same yards per carry as Foster.
There is a thread here entitled "What WTF happen to Foster?" Has anybody forgotten that? That's how inconsistent our run blocking has been. A good game against Cinci and another against the1st Colts game has made that thread go into hibernation. It'll only take one bad game from Foster to awaken that thread back to life.
You folks are unbelievable in your assessment of a players abilities. There are 2 thing Tate can do better than Foster ;exploding through arm tackle and not slipping on cuts. That's a great attributes to have and should not be ignored. Give this man 10 carries in a game and we'll truly see how much substance this thread has. But to judge a player when he's getting 2 attempt per game is grossly unfair.
If Foster gets injured in the week and Tate gets the start I would not lose sleep over that fact.
Of course, there's nothing wrong with Tate.
He's only been on the Injury Report with "toe (initial)," "toe," "foot," "hamstring (most common compensatory injury to a turf toe)," "hamstring," "hamstring," "hamstring," "hamstring," "hamstring," "foot/hamstring," "foot/hamstring," "hamstring," .......now back to "foot" all season long since the 5th game.
Just like George and Best, exemplary RBs, ever since their initial turf toe, they were continuously dealing with toe, foot and hamstring problems until they retired. I hope that is not the case with Tate. But this year his toe underlies his lack of performance and has affected his ability to remain on the field.
Yeh, I really wanted to see Forsett come in for a change of pace. Not that Arian is a true power runner, but Forsett has the squirt underneath the pile ability, and the dude is so good he can be down and still score a touch down.Just kind of reminds me of a runaway bull, no vision what so ever.
Better question may be what happened to Forsett. I think he has done better this year than Tate.