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Bigbots_02

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Ive been as patient as anyone but I think I might have seen enough. I think we might need to start looking for a NO JOKE QB. Sure we have other problems like our offensive line looks like swiss cheese but even so, Matt Schaub not perfectly protected these days seem almost useless.

Im not saying Schaub isnt servicable but I want a QB the can go out and get it, not do just enought to not lose it... what are you guys thoughts.
 
Every response I came up with would have been considered a personal attack on the intelligence of the OP so I just wanted to let you km now that I read your post. I think you should watch something else.


Mike
 
Bigbots_02 said:
Ive been as patient as anyone but I think I might have seen enough. I think we might need to start looking for a NO JOKE QB. Sure we have other problems like our offensive line looks like swiss cheese but even so, Matt Schaub not perfectly protected these days seem almost useless.

Im not saying Schaub isnt servicable but I want a QB the can go out and get it, not do just enought to not lose it... what are you guys thoughts.
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I think you have no legit plan at getting someone better at this point which makes this silly. You don't replace a QB unless you have someone in mind that is legitamitely better that your team can actually get their hands on.
 
Mr teX said:
My thoughts? You clearly dont know football[/QUOTWhys everyone acting like a bunch of emotional naceys? All Im saying is that AFTER his contract is up, I think we should search for a QB that has a few more intangibles. Nothing more, nothing less. Call down killer
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Bigbots_02 said:
Mr teX said:
My thoughts? You clearly dont know football[/QUOTWhys everyone acting like a bunch of emotional naceys? All Im saying is that AFTER his contract is up, I think we should search for a QB that has a few more intangibles. Nothing more, nothing less. Call down killer
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Answer my question. Where do we find one better? Give me a realistic answer. If you can't this complaining about a guy that is pretty good is pointless until you can find someone who is better.
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We should search for a QB in the next draft. Eff when his contract is up. Schaub should be benched Alex Smith style. He is a scared QB and any pressure is too much for him. Can't escape tacklers, can't scramble for five yards, etc.
 
Goatcheese said:
O-line gets punked all day long: Replace the QB
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O-Line didn't play all that great, but they played well enough for a win. Did the O-Line get punked when they gave Schaub five seconds to throw from the one yard line, but Schaub goes backwards because he feels pressure that isn't there and gets scared? I don't think so.
 
GuerillaBlack said:
O-Line didn't play all that great, but they played well enough for a win. Did the O-Line get punked when they gave Schaub five seconds to throw from the one yard line, but Schaub goes backwards because he feels pressure that isn't there and gets scared? I don't think so.
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Did we watch the same game?
 
Texecutioner said:
I think you have no legit plan at getting someone better at this point which makes this silly. You don't replace a QB unless you have someone in mind that is legitamitely better that your team can actually get their hands on.
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I did last year. I said trade whatever picks necessary to move up and draft RG111. Let him sit behind Schaub for a year or until he proved he needed to be put on the field. Most people here laughed at me. How smart would we look right now if we had RG111 to bring off the bench?
 
mussop said:
I did last year. I said trade whatever picks necessary to move up and draft RG111. Let him sit behind Schaub for a year or until he proved he needed to be put on the field. Most people here laughed at me. How smart would we look right now if we had RG111 to bring off the bench?
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LOL we had nothing that would have been good enough to move that far up to get rg3.

this isn't madden.
 
Texecutioner said:
Bigbots_02 said:
Answer my question. Where do we find one better? Give me a realistic answer. If you can't this complaining about a guy that is pretty good is pointless until you can find someone who is better.
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The problem with your logic is you think to highly of Schaub. You look at his inflated stats and think he is better than he really is. Ii would take Alex Smith over Schaub. They are basically the same except Smith is more mobile which would make a huge difference in this offense.
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mussop said:
I did last year. I said trade whatever picks necessary to move up and draft RG111. Let him sit behind Schaub for a year or until he proved he needed to be put on the field. Most people here laughed at me. How smart would we look right now if we had RG111 to bring off the bench?
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There is no trade package the Texans could have offered to trump the Redskins. You are patting yourself on the back for thinking of some complete bullsh!t.
 
the whole offense sucked, not just Schaub...

This is what happens when you think you can get rid of your entire right side of the offensive line and plug in players with 0 NFL experience...


I place this clearly on Kubiak and Smith...
 
mussop said:
I did last year. I said trade whatever picks necessary to move up and draft RG111. Let him sit behind Schaub for a year or until he proved he needed to be put on the field. Most people here laughed at me. How smart would we look right now if we had RG111 to bring off the bench?
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I would have been fine with that, and still would be fine if we threw away #1 draft picks to get a guy like that. I'm fine doing it if we're going after a prospect like RG3 or Luck. Problem is prospects that look that good don't come in every draft.

ANother thing though is that you forget who our GM is. Rick Smith would never make a ballsy move like that. Our team will have to have another 1-15 type of season for something like that to happen.
 
Goatcheese said:
O-line gets punked all day long: Replace the QB
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Basically...jones had an absolutely awful game today and jared allen gave duane brown the business today...the dude had 2 holding calls called on him today...dont think thats ever happened...yet all people have to comment on is schaub's play today.

What about foster's fumble in viking territory and his awful play in general

What about the o-line getting snuffed on the 1 yd line

What about the dropped passes from daniels

Have some perspective people
 
The Third Man said:
There is no trade package the Texans could have offered to trump the Redskins. You are patting yourself on the back for thinking of some complete bullsh!t.
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Redskins gave up the No. 6 overall pick in 2012, their second-round pick in 2012, and their first-round picks in 2013 and 2014.

You dont think we could of trumped that? :wadepalm: Get a clue! :lol:
 
Mr. Texan said:
mussop said:
alex smith with a worse head coach, receiving core, o-line, and defense than sf....right
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Alex Smith is a complete failure in this league. He had one redeeming season where he played more like a game manager that didn't **** things up for the defense to hold teams to low scores. That is all Alex Smith has ever done.

To state that Alex Smith is better then Schaub shows a complete knee jerk reaction to a bad game and a total lack of observation on NFL QB's to even attempt to suggest that.
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BullNation4Life said:
the whole offense sucked, not just Schaub...

This is what happens when you think you can get rid of your entire right side of the offensive line and plug in players with 0 NFL experience...


I place this clearly on Kubiak and Smith...
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It didn't help when Butler went down. But I agree that Kubiak seems to be doing less with more than what I'm seeing from other teams around the league.
 
Texecutioner said:
Mr. Texan said:
Alex Smith is a complete failure in this league. He had one redeeming season where he played more like a game manager that didn't **** things up for the defense to hold teams to low scores. That is all Alex Smith has ever done.

To state that Alex Smith is better then Schaub shows a complete knee jerk reaction to a bad game and a total lack of observation on NFL QB's to even attempt to suggest that.
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I didn't say he was better. I said they are basically the same. They are! You just have to high of an opinion of Schaub because of his over inflated stats. You are in love with stats. So much so that you lack the ability to observe what he is really capable of. Or I should say, isn't capable of.
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Bigbots_02 said:
Ive been as patient as anyone but I think I might have seen enough. I think we might need to start looking for a NO JOKE QB. Sure we have other problems like our offensive line looks like swiss cheese but even so, Matt Schaub not perfectly protected these days seem almost useless.

Im not saying Schaub isnt servicable but I want a QB the can go out and get it, not do just enought to not lose it... what are you guys thoughts.
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Not just QB bro, look at whos calling all these bone headed draws and screens or runs. Look at the boys, Hell they arent giving up like Kubiak. Just sad
 
Frankly, we should have acquired Chad Henne. He's much better than Matt Schaub. Just look at him driving! Matt Schaub has never done that!
 
BullNation4Life said:
the whole offense sucked, not just Schaub...

This is what happens when you think you can get rid of your entire right side of the offensive line and plug in players with 0 NFL experience...


I place this clearly on Kubiak and Smith...
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This is an o-line problem. Couldn't keep everyone though. Who would you of gotten rid of? I was blasted when I mention Foster's money would of been better spent on keeping the o-line intact. Kubiak has to figure out how to move the ball with what we got. They were doing it earlier in the year lets see what he has in store next week and into the playoff's. We could always do what some are suggesting and get rid of Kubiak and Schaub this week and start rebuilding now.:overreact:
 
Texecutioner said:
Bigbots_02 said:
Answer my question. Where do we find one better? Give me a realistic answer. If you can't this complaining about a guy that is pretty good is pointless until you can find someone who is better.
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I would think with the type od play action system we run and the throws we make... Colt McCoy would probably suffice. accurate, hard worker, Not a real strong arm (neither does Schaub) but good enough, VERY MOBILE. Once again, not saying Schaub is ok but we BASICALLY have a Slug version of Colt McCoy. Id take him.
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mussop said:
Texecutioner said:
The problem with your logic is you think to highly of Schaub. You look at his inflated stats and think he is better than he really is. Ii would take Alex Smith over Schaub. They are basically the same except Smith is more mobile which would make a huge difference in this offense.
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Lol at this hindsight ass logic. No way you're seriously advocating this & patting yourself on the back without taking to account what rg3 has done up to this point. It'd be patently stupid for us to give up our future and other potentially great young players already on the team to move up and get rg3....... Especially when we just got to the point where we were good....cause if we'd have missed, we would've been screwed for years to come.....



You wanted to give up our f
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Mr. Texan said:
this offense would be sssssssssssssssmokin with dink-n-dunk alex smith's 17 TD career high
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And how is Schaub not a dink and dunk master? Face it Schaub has glairing weaknesses that hold this team back. Everyone has to play a perfect game on offense for him to be successful. He is incapable of making plays on his own. just like A Smith he is nothing more than a game manager.
 
mussop said:
And how is Schaub not a dink and dunk master? Face it Schaub has glairing weaknesses that hold this team back. Everyone has to play a perfect game on offense for him to be successful. He is incapable of making plays on his own. just like A Smith he is nothing more than a game manager.
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when has alex smth ever had 500 yard passing games or 4000 yard seasons or been a pro bowler?

schaub may be a game manager but he's way better than alex smith and it's not even a discussion.
 
Mr teX said:
mussop said:
Lol at this hindsight ass logic. No way you're seriously advocating this & patting yourself on the back without taking to account what rg3 has done up to this point. It'd be patently stupid for us to give up our future and other potentially great young players already on the team to move up and get rg3....... Especially when we just got to the point where we were good....cause if we'd have missed, we would've been screwed for years to come.....



You wanted to give up our f
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Do you ever make any sense?
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Mr. Texan said:
when has alex smth ever had 500 yard passing games or 4000 yard seasons or been a pro bowler?

schaub may be a game manager but he's way better than alex smith and it's not even a discussion.
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Oh here we go with stats again. :mariopalm: Yes Im sorry Matt Schaub is awsome and has the STATS to back it up. No need for further discussion. Freaken Genius! :smiliepalm:
 
mussop said:
Oh here we go with stats again. :mariopalm: Yes Im sorry Matt Schaub is awsome and has the STATS to back it up. No need for further discussion. Freaken Genius! :smiliepalm:
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better than some hypothetical bs with no base to lean on.

hepr derp texans win super bowl wif alex smif herp derp i did it in madden

alex smif put da team on his back doe
 
mussop said:
Oh here we go with stats again. :mariopalm: Yes Im sorry Matt Schaub is awsome and has the STATS to back it up. No need for further discussion. Freaken Genius! :smiliepalm:
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How about if you present a real argument other then bashing stats as if stats isn't a huge indicator in any sports discussion. It has been and always will be, so stop with this consistent bashing of stats as if they mean nothing.

Explain a real plan on how the Texans find this top dog at QB or make the claim that you're willing to watching another 2-14 season so we can enter the #1 draft sweepstakes to find the next best QB coming out of college to build this team around.
 
EllisUnit said:
Not just QB bro, look at whos calling all these bone headed draws and screens or runs. Look at the boys, Hell they arent giving up like Kubiak. Just sad
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Absolutely, Im not excusing the Offensive line, they played terrible today and have been mediocre this year. With that said, I think a more mobile QB give defenses something else to think about.

They didnt even blitz Schaub and was able to get to him because of our offensive line, and because Shaub isnt agile and played like he was afraid. Our recievers were covered and double covered all day because the vikings didnt have to blitz.

A mobile QB can try to off set the lack of production from the Offensive line. They would keep a few more inn the box then we have more openings down field.
 
Stats aren't everything. David Carr's consecutive completed passes record should have told us that. Schaub's good, he's just not good enough and he gives the offense exactly zero spark. He folds in big games and that's a problem if you want to get into and win big games.

Time to find a QB. I don't see how anyone could not be thinking that the Texans need to look for a guy who can get it done.
 
Mr teX said:
mussop said:
Lol at this hindsight ass logic. No way you're seriously advocating this & patting yourself on the back without taking to account what rg3 has done up to this point. It'd be patently stupid for us to give up our future and other potentially great young players already on the team to move up and get rg3....... Especially when we just got to the point where we were good....cause if we'd have missed, we would've been screwed for years to come.....



You wanted to give up our f
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I never wrote that Mr. Tex. Some jackass took my words or put them into some wrong quotes. I've defended Schaub left and right from these knee jerkers who have no plan at finding someone better.
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Hervoyel said:
Stats aren't everything. David Carr's consecutive completed passes record should have told us that. Schaub's good, he's just not good enough and he gives the offense exactly zero spark. He folds in big games and that's a problem if you want to get into and win big games.

Time to find a QB. I don't see how anyone could not be thinking that the Texans need to look for a guy who can get it done.
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Find one how?? I continue to ask you this question and have for several months, but you won't answer it. Are you ready to tank a season for a #1 draft pick? Or do you want the Texans to toy with 2nd round picks at QB where we potentially run through like 5 of them before we find a franchise QB like so many other teams still are doing right now? If you don't have a realistic plan on how to replace a good QB, then stop suggesting it.
 
Texecutioner said:
How about if you present a real argument other then bashing stats as if stats isn't a huge indicator in any sports discussion. It has been and always will be, so stop with this consistent bashing of stats as if they mean nothing.

Explain a real plan on how the Texans find this top dog at QB or make the claim that you're willing to watching another 2-14 season so we can enter the #1 draft sweepstakes to find the next best QB coming out of college to build this team around.
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Hell, as much as Dallas complains about Romo I would take him. His skill set and intangibles, then you add our scheme. If he puts in the work to learn it. He would be awsome. Colt McCoy, like I stated earlier IS SCHAUB... but a mobile Schaub. That would make him alot better in our system.
 
Texecutioner said:
How about if you present a real argument other then bashing stats as if stats isn't a huge indicator in any sports discussion. It has been and always will be, so stop with this consistent bashing of stats as if they mean nothing.

Explain a real plan on how the Texans find this top dog at QB or make the claim that you're willing to watching another 2-14 season so we can enter the #1 draft sweepstakes to find the next best QB coming out of college to build this team around.
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Stats are only a small part of any equation always were, always will be. And I never said we need to find a "TOP DOG" at QB. You see thats the problem right there. You and others think so highly of Schaub (because of stats) that in your opinion the only way to get a better QB than Schaub is to bring in a "TOP DOG". I don't!

Any solid veteran good game manager that has a smidgeon of mobility would be a step up over Schaub. Because all Schaub is is a solid veteran good game manager that has zero mobilty.
Texecutioner said:
How about if you present a real argument other then bashing stats as if stats isn't a huge indicator in any sports discussion. It has been and always will be, so stop with this consistent bashing of stats as if they mean nothing.

Explain a real plan on how the Texans find this top dog at QB or make the claim that you're willing to watching another 2-14 season so we can enter the #1 draft sweepstakes to find the next best QB coming out of college to build this team around.
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Stats are only a small part of any equation always were, always will be. And I never said we need to find a "TOP DOG" at QB. You see thats the problem right there. You and others think so highly of Schaub (because of stats) that in your opinion the only way to get a better QB than Schaub is to bring in a "TOP DOG". I don't!

Any solid veteran good game manager that has a smidgeon of mobility would be a step up over Schaub. Because all Schaub is is a solid veteran good game manager that has zero mobilty.
 
Mr. Texan said:
better than some hypothetical bs with no base to lean on.

hepr derp texans win super bowl wif alex smif herp derp i did it in madden

alex smif put da team on his back doe
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That last sentence so represents the intellect of the majority of you're post. Now go back and play madden so you can learn something intelligent to say about football.
 
Bigbots_02 said:
Hell, as much as Dallas complains about Romo I would take him. His skill set and intangibles, then you add our scheme. If he puts in the work to learn it. He would be awsome. Colt McCoy, like I stated earlier IS SCHAUB... but a mobile Schaub. That would make him alot better in our system.
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Oh come on, Romo has been right there with Schaub stat wise year after year and wins/loss wise for the most part. ANd people dogged Romo all season long up until about 3 weeks ago and now Romo is who you would want?? Romo has choked a lot in his career, so that makes no sense at how you would want him when Schaub isn't good enough.

Romo and Schaub have always been very close as it is, so I don't see how Romo would be a great replacement. He is just mobile, but his problems at throwing picks at horrible times has always plagued him.
 
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