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If McNair doesn't do something tomorrow he's a fool.

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This team is gone, signed out, in the cloakroom, returned to sender, etc. No way to accept for another day the poor coaching and leadership here. McNair should fire Capers AND Casserly tomorrow and put Almost Anybody in as caretaker coach. Then he should declare the search for the new coach and GM open and pray to God Jimmy Johnson will meet with him. If Jimmy won't take the job, then maybe he can help McNair figure out who might.
 
I'm getting sick and tired of poor excuses as to why they are losing. As I said before. The coach says that they are not executing. Well? What are you doing about it? Dom says nothing. It's as if he doesn't care.
 
No way to accept for another day the poor coaching and leadership here
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yes fire them and hire one of the hundreds of future hall of fame coaches that every other team in the league has stupidly not hired.


firing Capers right now would benefit no body. It would only serve as a symbolic move to show the bloodthirsty fanbase that changes will be made.

Personally.. im not a big fan of useless symbolism. Changes will come, I can wait until it is the best time to do so.
 
Scott D said:
I'm getting sick and tired of poor excuses as to why they are losing. As I said before. The coach says that they are not executing. Well? What are you doing about it? Dom says nothing. It's as if he doesn't care.
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It's obv he doesn't care when he saw what 'Dre did by giving up the penalty that took us out of field goal range. He patted him on the shoulder and looked at him as if to say "It's ok Andre! I know how you feel. B & C (Bob and Chuck) are like that with me all the time". Could you imagine how Belichik or Cowher would have handled 'Dre's little anger management session. He would have been lucky to play the rest of the half! That's what makes me mad (and sick, probably more sick) about this team. There is just no emotion or pride about the coaches (apart from our ST coach). Gimme something Dom, lie to me, but try to at least make me believe you!!!
 
McNair said that he would not make any changes now as the off-season was the time for that. he did mention that both players and coaches are under contract and that the team is not playing as it's supposed to. Relax all, changes ARE coming...
 
Scott D said:
I'm getting sick and tired of poor excuses as to why they are losing. As I said before. The coach says that they are not executing. Well? What are you doing about it? Dom says nothing. It's as if he doesn't care.
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Poor excuses?
Capers :homer: stated that the Texans had poor execution. That's what he says every blooming game. What more do you want? :sarcasm:

bobby 119C:brickwall
 
Actually, there are some benefits to taking action now.

1. It gets the process started - I am sure hiring a coach/GM is a hard decision and the more time you have to market the position and analyze the candidates the more comfortable your choice will be for you at the time you make the choice. The longer Mr. McNair has to perform due diligence, the better the decision he can make. Only time will tell if you have made a good choice.

2. Opening the position/marketing - By formally starting the search for replacements early, all possibilities will be evaluated (the early bird gets the worm so to speak). Mr. McNair will be able to talk to JJ and other candidates before other teams have a chance to approach him with other job offers.

3. Tough decisions now - Like it or not, there are some tough decisions to be made now, in particular David Carr's contract, which from what I have read on this board expires at the end of the season. It would be better to have the future GM/coach make this decision then be saddled with an expensive player that he may not want.

4. A message to the fans - as you can tell by reading this board, the fan base is disgusted with this team right now. Half of the fans attending the game last night were in the parking lot by half time, and from what I could tell about 10% was left after the third quarter. Fan booing was harsh on several occasions. An action now may help keep the fans in the seats longer during the final home games, which means more concession and ancillary sales for the team.

5. Sending a message to the players - this team was lethargic during last nights game, and that the nicest way I can put it. Many players are going through the motions just to collect a paycheck. By firing the Coach/GM, Mr. McNair would send a message to the players about keeping their jobs this season and next.

Anyway, this post is getting little long winded, so I'll stop now. Every decision has an action and a reaction, while I think I have made some good points here, there will and should be other opinions so ya'll fire away.
 
Wharton said:
5. Sending a message to the players - this team was lethargic during last nights game, and that the nicest way I can put it. Many players are going through the motions just to collect a paycheck. By firing the Coach/GM, Mr. McNair would send a message to the players about keeping their jobs this season and next.
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Good points, good post. On #5, what I heard Mcnair say(postgame comment broadcasted this morning on 610), was that both coaches AND players were on contracts, IMO hinting that if coaches can get fired, so can players. The last 6 games of the season will be all about players trying to show what they are capable of, if thy want to keep their jobs. I would not be surprised if Mcnair cleans out house real good and gives a new HC 2-3 years to turn it all around.
 
Grid said:
Personally.. im not a big fan of useless symbolism.
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I'm not sure that firing the coaches would be useless symbolism. Forget the fans for the moment and think about the players.

Obviously, this team doesn't have their heart or their brain in the game - they are just going through the motions and not very good motions at that. A coaching change now could put new life into the players - or at least a small breath.

I don't know that they would play any better under a new coach - but they sure couldn't play any worse -so what the devil? I say make the change now and see what happens. It seems silly to continue to dance with the one who brung you when he brung you to being the worst team in the nfl.

McNair saying changes are coming is great - but denial plays a big part in all of our lives. If a change is made now - reality just might cause a few players to put their heart and brain into the game. At the very least, they wouldn't be lined up at the door asking to be traded.
 
A post like this can show the difference in opinions we all have. It would do nothing but harm and costs more money than it's worth to hire someone now. We need to ride out this season the best we can and then hire the best available personel at the end. You can't get the head coach we need in the middle of a season. They are under contract.

But when Capers decided to go for a field goal instead of a TD with a 4th and 4 and down by 17, well let's just say me and another 1,000 fans got up and walked out....
 
Buffi2 said:
I don't know that they would play any better under a new coach - but they sure couldn't play any worse -so what the devil? I say make the change now and see what happens. It seems silly to continue to dance with the one who brung you when he brung you to being the worst team in the nfl.
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Things might already have happened, as fans we don't have the insight we all would love to have. For all I know Capers is already fired at the end of the season and Mcnair is already looking for new coaches. Thing is, we just don't know. I will say this, if I were Mcnair I would not fire away during the season, it looks like a panic-move, emotional and unprofessional, something that does not look good with investors. Two worlds, what you say, and what you do. We only get the one.
 
It would do nothing but harm and costs more money than it's worth to hire someone now. We need to ride out this season the best we can and then hire the best available personel at the end. You can't get the head coach we need in the middle of a season. They are under contract.
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Nobody is saying that we can get Capers' replacement at this time. The bottom line is that this team has many, many problems and Capers is the biggest one at this time. As it was described in one of the posts above, you allow the search to begin right now when you fire Capers. If it is certain that you will fire Capers, then let the lame duck go now. You do him and the whole organization a disservice if you act like everything is fine in public, while you are going behind his back and preparing to hire another coach behind close doors. In addition, there are really important personnel decisions that need to be made. If Capers is not going to be here, why should we waste time getting his input.

I think letting the special team coach take over now will certainly not hurt anything. You put him in a no lose situation. If the team tanks, no one will blame him. If he does well by some miracle, it will help his career. Just having some head coaching experience has to be a positive thing.

The fans that are true blue don't care who is running the team and how bad they play. The band wagoners are long gone. This move gives the people on the fence a reason to be interested in the rest of this lost season.
 
I think the players and Coaches understand that they are all fighting for jobs right now. Most of the lower coaches are likely looking for jobs elsewhere. The players are also have their agents getting their finances in order for the upcoming FA off-season. It is gonna be alot of house cleaning this off-season. I dont think you can really do anything right now but wait till the offseason. I am still gonna get up every sunday and saturday excited about Texans football, but my excitement will be when the season actually starts for us and that is the first day of the off-season.
 
To be frank, prior to last night I was leaning more toward canning Casserly and potentially giving Caper's another shot. However, I have to agree that he lost this team as they play foolishly and without emotion. I think it would be a wise move to put in an interim coach who wouldn't worry about making "smart" decisions during the close of a 1-9 season...

Why did we have our starters in during the last few drives? Why not give the backups a chance to prove they deserve some playing time - including Banks and Ragone? Why in the heck would we go for a field goal on fourth and goal from the four and then use a timeout to get there? Too many poor decisions and allowing the team to fall apart without any threat of benchings, etc.
 
HomeBred_Texan said:
A post like this can show the difference in opinions we all have. It would do nothing but harm and costs more money than it's worth to hire someone now. We need to ride out this season the best we can and then hire the best available personel at the end. You can't get the head coach we need in the middle of a season. They are under contract.

But when Capers decided to go for a field goal instead of a TD with a 4th and 4 and down by 17, well let's just say me and another 1,000 fans got up and walked out....
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There were 1000 fans left at that time?
 
Wharton said:
Actually, there are some benefits to taking action now.

1. It gets the process started - I am sure hiring a coach/GM is a hard decision and the more time you have to market the position and analyze the candidates the more comfortable your choice will be for you at the time you make the choice. The longer Mr. McNair has to perform due diligence, the better the decision he can make. Only time will tell if you have made a good choice.
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The process is probably already started. Backdoor deals and undisclosed discussions happen all the time in the NFL (other sports too). Furthermore, everyone knows the Texans will be hiring a new coach after the season, so anyone who wants to be a candidate is already aware.

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3. Tough decisions now - Like it or not, there are some tough decisions to be made now, in particular David Carr's contract, which from what I have read on this board expires at the end of the season. It would be better to have the future GM/coach make this decision then be saddled with an expensive player that he may not want.
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More than likely, McNair will hire a coach whose outlook on David Carr matches his own. There is also the notion around the league that Carr still has a lot of potential if he gets sufficient protection. There are no doubt a number of coaches who feel that they can rehabilitate Carr with good protection schemes and some solid coaching. Think about this, regarding Carr's coaching - he's had two voices in his ear for most of his career. First it was Capers and Palmer sending different messages and wanting to play two different styles of ball and then Capers handed off to Pendry. Once Palmer was gone, Pendry has taken everything away from Carr. This guy's coaching has left a lot to be desired. There will be coaches that relish the idea of working with Carr. You can teach mental; you can't teach physical.


Wharton said:
4. A message to the fans - as you can tell by reading this board, the fan base is disgusted with this team right now. Half of the fans attending the game last night were in the parking lot by half time, and from what I could tell about 10% was left after the third quarter. Fan booing was harsh on several occasions. An action now may help keep the fans in the seats longer during the final home games, which means more concession and ancillary sales for the team.
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As a PSL/season ticket holder, I definitely feel like McNair should answer directly to me. However, that selfish part of me also realizes that, for all my message board analysis, I am not qualified to make decisions for this team. So I'll have to accept the decisions that McNair makes and respond with my pocketbook. What I am trying to say is ... there's a certain amount of responsibility to the fans, but most fans overstate it. No message needs to be sent to the fans in this instance.

Wharton said:
5. Sending a message to the players - this team was lethargic during last nights game, and that the nicest way I can put it. Many players are going through the motions just to collect a paycheck. By firing the Coach/GM, Mr. McNair would send a message to the players about keeping their jobs this season and next.
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The players are more than likely going to be of the opinion that coaches don't go out and execute the game plan, therefore Capers doesn't deserve to be fired. It's not like the players are sitting around behind closed doors saying "Man! Does McNair even care? When's he going to fire Capers?".
 
I don't see any point in bringing in a new coach right now....if they do and they lose all the rest of their games then the fans and media will be screaming that the new guy is a major loser and you're back to square one.

Best to do the hiring over the offseason; give the new regime plenty of time to size up the draft and who they want to target and everybody start on the same page next year.
 
WWJD said:
I don't see any point in bringing in a new coach right now....if they do and they lose all the rest of their games then the fans and media will be screaming that the new guy is a major loser and you're back to square one.

Best to do the hiring over the offseason; give the new regime plenty of time to size up the draft and who they want to target and everybody start on the same page next year.
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I think hanging on to Capers is a huge mistake. Instead of giving our youngsters like Morency, Wand and/or Ragone some snaps (at least in the 4th quarter in a blowout) and some experience in a lost season we will continue to roll out this same tired cast of "veterans" that we know what we have in them. Caper's isn't worried about looking at our youngsters for next season because only a fool would think he is coming back.
 
Vinny said:
I think hanging on to Capers is a huge mistake. Instead of giving our youngsters like Morency, Wand and/or Ragone some snaps (at least in the 4th quarter in a blowout) and some experience in a lost season we will continue to roll out this same tired cast of "veterans" that we know what we have in them. Caper's isn't worried about looking at our youngsters for next season because only a fool would think he is coming back.
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But whether he stays or not, it is still in his own interest to portray himself as someone with coaching abilities, try players out, play the professional role of coach EVEN if he knows he'll be gone. If he comes out and says, screw it, I'll be gone next year so F you all, then he won't ever get another job, ever :)
 
Malloy said:
But no whether he stays or not, it is still in his own interest to portray himself as someone with coaching abilities, try players out, play the professional role of coach EVEN if he knows he'll be gone. If he comes out and says, screw it, I'll be gone next year so F you all, then he won't ever get another job, ever :)
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I really don't care what is in Capers interest long term....He is a millionare and he is going to be fine. I'm only worried about what is best for this franchise. I don't see how keeping Capers around is good for us at this point.
 
Vinny said:
I really don't care what is in Capers interest long term....He is a millionare and he is going to be fine. I'm only worried about what is best for this franchise. I don't see how keeping Capers around is good for us at this point.
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His long term interest would include trying out new and young players, something you yourself asked for in your former post?
 
Malloy said:
His long term interest would include trying out new and young players, something you yourself asked for in your former post?
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Yeah, good to see some snaps for the younsters last night. You are making an argument based on fantasy. Reality is Capers isn't concerned with anything but right now.
 
Vinny said:
Yeah, good to see some snaps for the younsters last night. You are making an argument based on fantasy. Reality is Capers isn't concerned with anything but right now.
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Ok, I'm stuck in fantasy, good argument.

To be honest I have no clue what Capers is worried about, and I suspect that you are as much in the dark, and susceptible to speculation, as anyone else (including myself).
 
I think the Texans have to make a move now. Capers is suffering through this and the team is also suffering. Neither is doing each other any good. Firing Capers would at least signal that changes are on the horizon. This team has already quit on Capers. If anything it is doing more damage to keep him here.
 
Malloy said:
Ok, I'm stuck in fantasy, good argument.

To be honest I have no clue what Capers is worried about, and I suspect that you are as much in the dark, and susceptible to speculation, as anyone else (including myself).
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Just an observation from following the NFL since 1971. Lame duck coaches don't care about getting younsters PT since younsters will make mistakes. Capers has zero reason to play for 2007.
 
Vinny said:
Just an observation from following the NFL since 1971. Lame duck coaches don't care about getting younsters PT since younsters will make mistakes. Capers has zero reason to play for 2007.
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not even if it will damage his chance of coaching again (if he cares, money, future job, all that jazz)?

If that's the case then your point is valid. :)
 
Vinny said:
I think hanging on to Capers is a huge mistake. Instead of giving our youngsters like Morency, Wand and/or Ragone some snaps (at least in the 4th quarter in a blowout) and some experience in a lost season we will continue to roll out this same tired cast of "veterans" that we know what we have in them. Caper's isn't worried about looking at our youngsters for next season because only a fool would think he is coming back.
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I used to think firing Capers/some combination of coordinators in mid season would not do any good, and may do some harm. Upon further reflection (and evidence) keeping him is hurting the team now, if only because of the lack of interest in testing/seasoning younger players.

The new coach would have to be active in determining who plays though, if we keep the coordinators. From what I understand Capers lets Fangio and Pendry decide who plays. Does anyone have any definitive knowledge on that?
 
I'm more worried if the best coach possible is available now. Offseason "might" provide a broader variety.
 
Nobody says you have to choose a replacement now. Let Pendry take over for now and start your search.

Bench DC and let him take a look at the games from the sidelines for a little while. A change of perspective so to speak, can do wonders. If Bradford isn't in the Texans long term plans, then sit him and play Mathis (I think he's earned a look).

Bring in JJ as a consultant, if he doesn't want a job. While there are alot of backroom deals in the NFL, a formal search is always best. According to talk radio (and we all know how reliable that is), McNair has started making inquires in to availability of people.
 
It was someone expressing themselves and that is within their right. Firing Capers would really not help this franchise. The only good thing that could come out of it is players that usually dont play would play. That is a double edged sword though, because most of our guys that dont play are really bad. Plus any coach that we will likely go after (KUBIAK) will be in the playoffs so we have alot of time before we can sign the guy we want.
 
Firing Capers now is the best option. Keeping him any longer just gives everyone else on the team an excuse to go through the motions for the rest of the year. If you fire Capers and promote one of the coordinators, you at least give them the opporturnity and responsibility to show what they can do right now.

If you keep Capers you will not see anything different from the players for remainder of the year. The Texans have plenty of tough personnel issues to decide. The only way they can determine what they have is to play everybody. As long as Capers in charge, you will see the same people (unless there are injuries), running the same tired plays, and McNair will have no better idea what exactly he has for next year.

If they are already working behind the scenes loooking for Capers' replacement, how is that any less insulting than firing him now and letting him get on with his life? This whole Capers is the coach (wink, wink), we support him (wink, wink), won't decide before the end of season (wink, wink) is just a horrible case of denial.

Please remember, Capers' salary will be paid regardless of what he is doing for the rest of this year.
 
cadahnic said:
It was someone expressing themselves and that is within their right. Firing Capers would really not help this franchise. The only good thing that could come out of it is players that usually dont play would play. That is a double edged sword though, because most of our guys that dont play are really bad.
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How do you know? They don't get on the field. Besides...what do we have to lose? Our playoff slot? What better way to figure out what you have than to see it on game film instead of relying on this failed staff's practice opinion.
 
I know from watching these players in the times that they have PT. You can say practices, training camp, and any other time they played football. Bottomline Vin our backups are not very good. I understand were you are coming from you have seen 3+ players go to other locals and put up numbers, so why couldnt these other guys. well our team has less depth than ever before why because we do not have players that are very good.
 
Once again Vinny is right.

Any "Texans Fan" out there, that says firing Capers right now is a bad idea, is NOT a TRUE "Texans Fan".

Your either Jacksonville Jaguar - imposters......or Capers' relatives, or possibly one of four David Carr fans.

If you really are a "Texans Fan" and you think firing Capers, or Casserly right now is a bad thing, then you don't know football, or your WAY too in love with the whole UNDERDOG team mentality.
 
How do we know how good any of the players are given the horrible and unimaginitive plays they are running on both sides of the ball? They are not running anything near an NFL calibre offense at this time. If we keep Capers, you can be assured that nothing will change for the remainder of the year. Capers is trying to salvage wins. Capers believes the only way to win is by executing his system better. Adjustmernts never were is strong suite to begin with. The problem is that every other team knows this system and no matter how well it is executed, the Texans will continue to lose.
 
word is, capers will find work as a defensive coordinator. McNair, it seems, is blaming it all on Casserly. He did make those bad trades...
 
Word is McNair is blaming Capers and Casserly. Capers will be gone and find work somewhere as a D-coordinator. cass will do something. They are both quite well off so I am not that worried. Marciano and Hoke will find jobs elswhere likely Hoke will hit it big at a college and then come back to the NFL as a hot commodity. Either way they are all likely gone. And I commend McNair in already beginning the search for a new guy.
 
Can we still keep Marciano? He has done a really good job around here and I would like to see the continued developement of Mathis under him.
 
throwANDREtheBALL said:
Once again Vinny is right.

Any "Texans Fan" out there, that says firing Capers right now is a bad idea, is NOT a TRUE "Texans Fan".

Your either Jacksonville Jaguar - imposters......or Capers' relatives, or possibly one of four David Carr fans.

If you really are a "Texans Fan" and you think firing Capers, or Casserly right now is a bad thing, then you don't know football, or your WAY too in love with the whole UNDERDOG team mentality.
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OR they're people with a different view on things...

I think there's another thread on who's a fan and who's not...
 
Players already know they're job is on the line as well, I don't think you'll see the "going through the motions" the rest of the season.

....The Texans were already last in the NFL with 153.3 rushing yards allowed per game going in, and Kansas City finished with 226.

"It's a collective effort by all the defenders," Peek said. "We need everybody on the ball, gang-tackling, and we're not getting enough of that right now. We've got to have (more of) that. It has to turn around.

"We're out here playing for our jobs. At some point, we'll see who wants to keep their jobs."
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That said, I don't think McNair will revise the regime during the season. I seem to recall him noting something along those lines a game or two ago that there would be no changes. Forget where it was said, but it was said to the media and he's pretty good about being p.c. in the public. I think it was the same time he was asking fans not to give up and still support the Texans through the tough times.... but I could be throwing what was exactly said for a loop...
 
mexican_texan said:
word is, capers will find work as a defensive coordinator. McNair, it seems, is blaming it all on Casserly. He did make those bad trades...
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Have you read this somewhere or just guessing?
 
cadahnic said:
Word is McNair is blaming Capers and Casserly. Capers will be gone and find work somewhere as a D-coordinator. cass will do something. They are both quite well off so I am not that worried. Marciano and Hoke will find jobs elswhere likely Hoke will hit it big at a college and then come back to the NFL as a hot commodity. Either way they are all likely gone. And I commend McNair in already beginning the search for a new guy.
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Where is this word coming from? Anywhere besides this MB? Inquiring minds want to know.
 
Unfortunately we've gotta ride this out - for as long as we can until the end of the season. Who do you promote for the interim if Casserly-Capers and Co. are fired?

*sigh How long was it before Fisher took over for the Oilers the last year they were here? was it about this time or was it closer to the end of regular season?

All I remember is that they won about 2 games that season and "lost" the Toilet Bowl by beating one of those damn Ohio teams - I think it was Cincinatti.
 
It seems to me that three basic points have been made for firing the coach now:

1) The players will get the message that they are playing for their jobs
2) The fans will get the message that ownership wants to turn things around
3) This gives the Texans more time to conduct a search/make decisions

I think the first two are valid except I could also see the players do something for someone they know is a lameduck. Honestly, does anyone see any assistant on this staff being even a remote candidate for this job? Obviously, you can fire the GM and coach now, but you cannot hire anyone inside the NFL until after the season. As I understand it, Carr's option comes up on March 1st, so a new GM hired in January would be just as effective as someone hired in December. You could hire someone like JJ early and let him watch the team while one of the assistants finishes out the string (the Dolphins did that with Saban). Then, he might be in a better position to make personnel decisions, but by and large these guys can watch tape and see what's going on.

McNair has intimated in every way that the coaches will be gone except for actually saying it. I think the players get the message too. Do you need to clean house now to reinforce that? The only one I'm not sure about is Casserly. We all think he should go, but does McNair? I'm not so sure. All I know is that this next draft is a golden oppoortunity and will be the make or break draft for this organization. If they hit on their picks then they could be right back in contention with a good free agent or two. If they miss then we could become the Arizona Cardinals.
 
Vinny said:
I think hanging on to Capers is a huge mistake. Instead of giving our youngsters like Morency, Wand and/or Ragone some snaps (at least in the 4th quarter in a blowout) and some experience in a lost season we will continue to roll out this same tired cast of "veterans" that we know what we have in them. Caper's isn't worried about looking at our youngsters for next season because only a fool would think he is coming back.
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I agree with you in principle as long as the coach that remains is Marciano. Pendry is a big loss and probably the catalyst of many of the problems we are seeing with this ball club.
 
Poor excuses?
Capers stated that the Texans had poor execution. That's what he says every blooming game. What more do you want?
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Oh, I don't know. Maybe a statement from Dom that says I can't coach a @$*&$@!% football team. Fire me please.

Or maybe, just maybe bench the starters and put the secondary in there. As to what I can remember, the secondary played better than the starters.

Realistically, I don't see any dissipline or accountability with the players or the coaching staff. Take AJ for example. He should have been ejected from the game but that didn't happen. The coach should have benched him for the rest of the game but that didn't happen either. As I said, no accountability.
 
throwANDREtheBALL said:
Once again Vinny is right.

Any "Texans Fan" out there, that says firing Capers right now is a bad idea, is NOT a TRUE "Texans Fan".

Your either Jacksonville Jaguar - imposters......or Capers' relatives, or possibly one of four David Carr fans.

If you really are a "Texans Fan" and you think firing Capers, or Casserly right now is a bad thing, then you don't know football, or your WAY too in love with the whole UNDERDOG team mentality.
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OR.. they are communists.. and possibly devil worshippers.


no point in firing Capers at this juncture IMO. It would be a classless move and wouldnt benefit us in any way. What makes you think his interim replacement will do any better? what makes you think he would play our rookies? He is going to want to win if at all possible to improve his resume.
 
touttail said:
Poor excuses?
Capers :homer: stated that the Texans had poor execution. That's what he says every blooming game. What more do you want? :sarcasm:

bobby 119C:brickwall
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I want him to close his mouth on the sidelines.
 
HoustonFan said:
*sigh How long was it before Fisher took over for the Oilers the last year they were here? was it about this time or was it closer to the end of regular season?
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It was exactly at this point of the season. Pardee was fired after the team reached 1-9. Fisher's first game was the last MNF game ever held in Houston in '94. That was not the Oilers last season here btw - that would be '96.

Fisher was also the reason why it made sense to drop the hammer on Pardee at 2/3 season - unlike now when there's no one to realistically assume that role for the Texans. Dumping Capers now and replacing him with anyone on his staff would be like dropping Ed Biles and replacing him with Chuck Studley. That did a lot of good.

It's been 12 years since Houston had an NFL team with a winning record.
 
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