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Schaub calls out Suh, wouldn't want him on Texans

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When asked earlier Monday in an interview with SportsRadio 610 in Houston whether he would ever want Suh to be his teammate with the Texans, Schaub said, "No."

"You don't want a player like that. The stuff that he stands for and the type of player he is, that's not Houston Texan-worthy," Schaub said. "That's not what we're about as a football team, as individuals, collectively as a group, we're not that type of person."
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Suh is a POS!!!

I loved how Schaub handled the post game interview and loved how he took his comments even further way post-game.

What a POS Suh really is!!!
 
well i love scahub but i would have to disagree I would take Suh anyday over Cody and Mitchell wouldnt think twice about it it would be a MAJJJOOOORRRRRRRR Upgrade


could u image JJWATT SUH NINJA has our front 3 OMG !!!!!!!!
 
I wonder about the whole Suh character thing.

You never heard a bad word about him in college, role model type, everyone loves him then he gets to the NFL and he is a bad boy.

I point my finger at Schwartz. The two dirtiest DTs in memory both got that way under Schwartz.

If Suh had come into a character organisation like the Texans, I would expect ot have NONE of this.
 
kiwitexansfan said:
I wonder about the whole Suh character thing.

You never heard a bad word about him in college, role model type, everyone loves him then he gets to the NFL and he is a bad boy.

I point my finger at Schwartz. The two dirtiest DTs in memory both got that way under Schwartz.

If Suh had come into a character organisation like the Texans, I would expect ot have NONE of this.
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There is a ****load of proof that he's a bad guy. Go to youtube or even google him.
 
I sort of object to the "Schaub calls out..." inference in the title. At first they tried to get him to comment on the event itself by asking, in so many words, "why didn't you get pissed off? To which Schaub answered (again paraphrasing from memory), "I'm trying to play QB, get the next play, and run my offense. I don't have time to get caught up..."

Well that wasn't soundbite worthy enough so they changed tactics and asked the would you like him as a teammate question. At first his answer was a simple "no". And it seemed to me that that was all Schaub had to say about it. But not getting quite the bulletin board sound bite they were looking for, they kept digging and digging at Schaub until he expounded.

This whole mess is getting the Texans way too much attention. Now ESPN - and the OP - is saying Schaub is "calling Suh out".

I suppose next the media will go to Suh or Schwartz and ask "did you hear what Schaub said about you?"

Disgusting.
 
ObsiWan said:
I sort of object to the "Schaub calls out..." inference in the title. At first they tried to get him to comment on the event itself by asking, in so many words, "why didn't you get pissed off? To which Schaub answered (again paraphrasing from memory), "I'm trying to play QB, get the next play, and run my offense. I don't have time to get caught up..."

Well that wasn't soundbite worthy enough so they changed tactics and asked the would you like him as a teammate question. At first his answer was a simple "no". And it seemed to me that that was all Schaub had to say about it. But not getting quite the bulletin board sound bite they were looking for, they kept digging and digging at Schaub until he expounded.

This whole mess is getting the Texans way too much attention. Now ESPN - and the OP - is saying Schaub is "calling Suh out".

I suppose next the media will go to Suh or Schwartz and ask "did you hear what Schaub said about you?"

Disgusting.
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They didn't keep digging after the teammate question.

They asked him if he'd like suh as a teammate and he gave his full answer.

Mark vandameer spends a lot of time with the team and he said schaub was really unhappy about what suh did to him and was going to give some negative indictment of suh no matter how the questioning went. This is coming from a guy that works at the texans facility and rides on the team plane with these guys.

I listen to Matt every Monday and he is the king of coach speak for the most part.

For him to say he doesn't want a guy as a teammate is pretty strong. For him to say that a guy is not "texans worthy" is even stronger.
 
Frankly I was surprised how much run this got nationally. It was even discussed on PTI and stuff later in the day on ESPN. I listen to 610 basically 8 hours a day while at work and I heard the interview live yesterday and didn't think twice. Of course he wouldn't want him on the team...the guy just friggin kicked his dangle! WTH was Schauby gonna say? "Oh yeah, I'd love to have him on the team cause you know, I'm into effed up German porn and he could make those fantasies come to life and kick me in the dangle everyday!" :splits:
 
Rey said:
They didn't keep digging after the teammate question.

They asked him if he'd like suh as a teammate and he gave his full answer.

Mark vandameer spends a lot of time with the team and he said schaub was really unhappy about what suh did to him and was going to give some negative indictment of suh no matter how the questioning went. This is coming from a guy that works at the texans facility and rides on the team plane with these guys.

I listen to Matt every Monday and he is the king of coach speak for the most part.

For him to say he doesn't want a guy as a teammate is pretty strong. For him to say that a guy is not "texans worthy" is even stronger.
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Nice post, agreed.
 
Norg said:
well i love scahub but i would have to disagree I would take Suh anyday over Cody and Mitchell wouldnt think twice about it it would be a MAJJJOOOORRRRRRRR Upgrade


could u image JJWATT SUH NINJA has our front 3 OMG !!!!!!!!
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Suh would disappear playing the nose.
 
I think Schaub should have stayed with the origional "NC" approach. Not that I disagree with him because I know what he says is true, but because the NFL is basically a small community and his remarks may come back to haunt him.
 
Rey said:
They didn't keep digging after the teammate question.

They asked him if he'd like suh as a teammate and he gave his full answer.

Mark vandameer spends a lot of time with the team and he said schaub was really unhappy about what suh did to him and was going to give some negative indictment of suh no matter how the questioning went. This is coming from a guy that works at the texans facility and rides on the team plane with these guys.

I listen to Matt every Monday and he is the king of coach speak for the most part.

For him to say he doesn't want a guy as a teammate is pretty strong. For him to say that a guy is not "texans worthy" is even stronger.
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That's not accurate. I listened to it live on my way to work. They asked him would he like Suh as a teammate and his initial reply was one word: "No."

Schaub only added all that other stuff when Vandermeer asked him to expound. Vandy couldn't let it go at a simple "No".
 
ObsiWan said:
That's not accurate. I listened to it live on my way to work. They asked him would he like Suh as a teammate and his initial reply was one word: "No."

Schaub only added all that other stuff when Vandermeer asked him to expound. Vandy couldn't let it go at a simple "No".
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Well, Vandy realized he asked a close-ended question (a question that can have a Yes or No answer with no further details)....so in his error I think Vandy quickly recovered and asked him to explain why he said "No" to the question.

No harm in that. I think you're making more of it than what's there. That's my gig, so stop trying to copy me. I think we all wanted to hear Matt Schaub explain his feelings, even if it was a bit of a tangent question to begin with.

I personally liked hearing him say negative things about Suh. I mean, Suh is trying to straight up injure every QB he faces no matter what...so it's not like this awakened some sleeping giant in Suh or anything. Matt is making sure he's on record as being very anti-Suh.

He downplayed the two hits he received in the Broncos game. But with Suh, there's that Albert Haynesworth factor that I am sure just really irritates Schaub. So he got to vent a little, and that's fine. At least he vented now and not during the game, in the moment. Which, from the quotes I read, Matt said he intentionally moved on from that incident for the benefit of the team. Now that there's down time, I think it's more than OK for this to be discussed.
 
Norg said:
well i love scahub but i would have to disagree I would take Suh anyday over Cody and Mitchell wouldnt think twice about it it would be a MAJJJOOOORRRRRRRR Upgrade


could u image JJWATT SUH NINJA has our front 3 OMG !!!!!!!!
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Until it's 4th down in the AFC Championship game and Suh decides to be a tough guy and gets you a 15 yards hankie and lets a drive extend. Then you would want him gone. That's the kind of player e is. Uncontrollable.
 
ObsiWan said:
That's not accurate. I listened to it live on my way to work. They asked him would he like Suh as a teammate and his initial reply was one word: "No."

Schaub only added all that other stuff when Vandermeer asked him to expound. Vandy couldn't let it go at a simple "No".
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Did you hear the conversation before Schaub came on?

They were talking among themselves about whether they'd take Suh on their teams...

It was just a conversation, not some sinister plot to stir up drama. Of course they want interesting dialogue...That's their job
 
ProFootballTalk just reported that Suh recently received a fourth traffic ticket within a year. Somebody pulls a link for me; I don't know how to do it from my phone.
 
IDEXAN said:
I think Schaub should have stayed with the origional "NC" approach. Not that I disagree with him because I know what he says is true, but because the NFL is basically a small community and his remarks may come back to haunt him.
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Suh is universally hated around the league and has been voted the most disliked player by his peers for 2 straight years.
 
BigBull17 said:
Until it's 4th down in the AFC Championship game and Suh decides to be a tough guy and gets you a 15 yards hankie and lets a drive extend. Then you would want him gone. That's the kind of player e is. Uncontrollable.
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Uncontrollable he is.
Side-swiping cars; hitting a tree, and driving 91 mph in a 55mph zone.
You'd figure a guy would be more careful after receiving 3 traffic tickets within a year, but no, here he goes again.
 
Drew Sharp: Lions should consider trading Ndamukong Suh -- Detroit Free Press

If the Lions are smart -- and isn't that assuming a lot? -- they should seriously entertain trading offers for Suh this off-season. He may never shake free from the branding as a needlessly angry, impulsive reactionary who may annually face some form of NFL investigation for his on-field antics.

That's not worth it for the Lions, especially considering how much they invested in their top three draft picks when they were historically bad. They've already made Calvin Johnson the highest paid non-quarterback in NFL history. They might only have room to keep either quarterback Matthew Stafford or Suh following next season. Whom do you think they're going to choose?
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[Suh] is also annoyingly arrogant and capricious. Suh still believes that the NFL must change to how he plays because the league's never before experienced his combination of size and speed.
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I do believe Suh deliberately and angrily initiated a clearly non-football act, justifying in his mind that wherever his cleats met Schaub, so be it.
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It's quite unfortunate too. This dude could be one of the most dominant Dlinemen in the NFL if he wanted. Honestly, I used to enjoy the heck out of the way he played the game up until the "stomp". One of the dirtiest and deliberate things I've ever seen in a game. To make things worse, he denied doing it.

Hopefully he can get some help and get his mind right. Otherwise, he can disappear from the NFL for all I care.
 
76Texan said:
ProFootballTalk just reported that Suh recently received a fourth traffic ticket within a year. Somebody pulls a link for me; I don't know how to do it from my phone.
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I don't have a problem with what Schaub said. I liked Suh when he came ou tof college but his actions in the NFL are despicable.
 
DocBar said:
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I don't have a problem with what Schaub said. I liked Suh when he came ou tof college but his actions in the NFL are despicable.
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Suh has some serious entitlement issues. He thinks the NFL needs to bend its rules for him. He thinks he should get special treatment in the real world.

4 traffic violations in one year would get you & me a suspended license. Attempting to intimidate a witness would seal the deal.
 
Playoffs said:
Suh has some serious entitlement issues. He thinks the NFL needs to bend its rules for him. He thinks he should get special treatment in the real world.

4 traffic violations in one year would get you & me a suspended license. Attempting to intimidate a witness would seal the deal.
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I bet it's been that way since his playing days in high school, college, and now the NFL. Unfortunately he is a mental midget and his thought process seems to not have progressed past the age of 17.

The correlation between his traffic issues and on the field actions is not a coincidence. On top of that he is a crappy driver that probably thinks he is a pro driver.
 
Just to clarify, It looks like he was issued one traffic ticket, while one is pending.

He was not ticketed in the "minor" accident in Detroit.
He was not ticketed in Portland, but is being sued by a witness who was in his car during the accident.
He didn't hit any car, just a light pole, a drinking fountain, and a tree - probably by gunning his car too quickly from a start and just lost control of his car.
In the 911 call, Suh claimed that everybody is fine.
But one passenger claimed that she was injured and sued him.
The other passenger seems to support that claim.
No details on the amended police report yet, and I believe the case is still pending.
 
The only problem I have with Schaub's comments is the potential for "Texans Worthy" to become some sort of battle cry for the other team. The Texans are 10-1 and every opponent is gunning for us already, they don't need more incentive.

I will say that Schaub's comments are essentially correct. The Texans don't hire people who are unstable or glory hounds in any way, shape, form or fashion. Let's face it, drama sells newspapers and we don't get very much press because we don't have drama queens like Tony Romo, Michael Vick or Richie Incognito. While I think Suh has the potential to be a major force in the NFL, he doesn't fit the mold of a Texans player.
 
Double Barrel said:
Bud Adams is drooling over his checkbook as we speak...
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This is exactly what's going to happen. Detoilet will get tired of Suh and the controversy he brings so they'll trade him and he'll either go to some well meaning organization that thinks they can channel his anger and fix him or to someone like Bud Adams who wants his team to "toughen up". Hell, he'll probably bring Jim Schwartz back when he's fired too.
 
Hagar said:
The only problem I have with Schaub's comments is the potential for "Texans Worthy" to become some sort of battle cry for the other team. The Texans are 10-1 and every opponent is gunning for us already, they don't need more incentive.

I will say that Schaub's comments are essentially correct. The Texans don't hire people who are unstable or glory hounds in any way, shape, form or fashion. Let's face it, drama sells newspapers and we don't get very much press because we don't have drama queens like Tony Romo, Michael Vick or Richie Incognito. While I think Suh has the potential to be a major force in the NFL, he doesn't fit the mold of a Texans player.
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I think if Schaub was a clown himself, yeah...the Texans Worthy would be seen as dooshie and would be used for another team's gain.

The dude is so low-key, so hip to the ways of being a standup person...I mean, he's the antidote to drama...that I think people are golf clapping his statement all over the league. Well, maybe not in Detroit they're not. But still.
 
Hervoyel said:
This is exactly what's going to happen. Detoilet will get tired of Suh and the controversy he brings so they'll trade him and he'll either go to some well meaning organization that thinks they can channel his anger and fix him or to someone like Bud Adams who wants his team to "toughen up". Hell, he'll probably bring Jim Schwartz back when he's fired too.
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It is our destiny. Once-in-a-generation Luck to replace once-in-a-generation Manning, and then having our QB face Suh twice a season.

Our time is THIS season, before the Eagles hire Wade. ;)
 
If he kicked Tom Brady or Peyton in the groin, and tried to put some wrestling move on them well after he throws (which should be talked about more than the kick), would Suh have received a suspension? I think so. Lesson to Schaub, win a couple superbowl mvps, and you will be untouchable.
 
What I would have liked to hear Schaub or anyone else say in response to the Suh questions is to just say that men build their own reputations in life, and leave it at that.
 
BigBull17 said:
Until it's 4th down in the AFC Championship game and Suh decides to be a tough guy and gets you a 15 yards hankie and lets a drive extend. Then you would want him gone. That's the kind of player e is. Uncontrollable.
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dont worry A smith does this all time time buy getting a Netural zone infraction :toropalm:
 
Norg said:
dont worry A smith does this all time time buy getting a Netural zone infraction :toropalm:
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I was actually very impressed that he didn't lose his cool over the last three weeks. Chicago, Jags, Detroit.... he had plenty of opportunity.
 
GP said:
Well, Vandy realized he asked a close-ended question (a question that can have a Yes or No answer with no further details)....so in his error I think Vandy quickly recovered and asked him to explain why he said "No" to the question.

No harm in that. I think you're making more of it than what's there. That's my gig, so stop trying to copy me. I think we all wanted to hear Matt Schaub explain his feelings, even if it was a bit of a tangent question to begin with.
I personally liked hearing him say negative things about Suh. I mean, Suh is trying to straight up injure every QB he faces no matter what...so it's not like this awakened some sleeping giant in Suh or anything. Matt is making sure he's on record as being very anti-Suh.
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I was good with a simple, straight-forward "No."
Direct. To the point. No embellishment necessary. That works perfectly for me.

And when you think about it and the kind of players Uncle Bob and his Texans have historically signed up, Schaub's answer was the obvious answer to that question. No way Suh fits in our locker room.

So you're right, it was a tangential question. What purpose did it serve other than to provide sound-bite fodder for ESPN, et. al.?
 
Dutchrudder said:
Arian Foster isn't willing to say the same about Suh (video):

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1423518-arian-foster-would-welcome-ndamukong-suh-on-the-houston-texans

lol... Somehow I'm not surprised.
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He's got a point. While most of us seem to loathe the guy, there is no doubt that his talent is an upgrade to any defense. Part of it might be the culture that Jim Schwartz has created/allowed with that franchise. With another team, Suh might have a better definition of the lines he shouldn't cross.

I'm not sayin' I want the guy, but a D-line with JJ and Suh on it would be a freakin' unstoppable tsunami.
 
Double Barrel said:
He's got a point. While most of us seem to loathe the guy, there is no doubt that his talent is an upgrade to any defense. Part of it might be the culture that Jim Schwartz has created/allowed with that franchise. With another team, Suh might have a better definition of the lines he shouldn't cross.

I'm not sayin' I want the guy, but a D-line with JJ and Suh on it would be a freakin' unstoppable tsunami.
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It would also take a tsunami of cash to sign them both.
 
Double Barrel said:
He's got a point. While most of us seem to loathe the guy, there is no doubt that his talent is an upgrade to any defense. Part of it might be the culture that Jim Schwartz has created/allowed with that franchise. With another team, Suh might have a better definition of the lines he shouldn't cross.

I'm not sayin' I want the guy, but a D-line with JJ and Suh on it would be a freakin' unstoppable tsunami.
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Meh. Arian Foster is entitled to his opinion. He is a very positive minded person, so I can see why he'd say positive things.

The realist knows, however, that Suh will inevitably find a way to be more of a problem than a solution. Whether its from being in trouble with the law (suspension issues with the league as infractions persist), being in trouble with the refs (being flagged and subsequently possibly suspended, and has a history of it), or by virtue of other self control issues...I'm not so sure that a team can win with him on it.

Throw in the negative publicity factor, and it's a recipe for all the wrong things.

But yeah, speaking in terms of "if" we could turn that switch to off and have him just play straight up football alongside Watt...it wouldn't be fair to offenses. It would be a Geneva Convention issue.
 
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