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I agree, VY is not and will never be an NFL QB...Coach C. said:Right now we are tops of strength of schedule. And bigcarlos I sincerely hope that I never have to see that particular jersey in Houston Texans Battle Red.
He will be, he will be a very soild and athletic QB. I dont particuarlly like him, but he will be a good NFL QB.HomeBred_Texan said:I agree, VY is not and will never be an NFL QB...
Okay AggyHomeBred_Texan said:I agree, VY is not and will never be an NFL QB...
thats new, and quite unique. I have a different oppinion and dont actually agree with any of the people you have selected. I love the U, but i dont want any of their guys this year, unless winston falls to the second.Coach C. said:I am in favor of an all U draft.
1. Eric Winston
2. Orien Harris
3.a Sinorice Moss
3.b Greg Threat
4. Rocky McIntosh
5. Kelly Jennings
6. Javon Nanton
7 Leon Williams
Winston should be a pro-bowler easily. McIntosh reminds me of keith bullock, if he succedes, it will not be imediate. I do not see moss making the pro-bowl.Coach C. said:It is just an unique take on the draft. Rocky McIntosh, Threat, Moss, Winston, Jennings will be good players in this league. With rocky, moss, and winston likely being future pro-bowlers.
If Vince wins the NC and the heisman and will be a top pick with millions waiting for him???????????? What reason would he have to come back???????Reddevil63 said:Ricky Williams didnt, Roy Williams didnt, Derrick Johnson didnt, what makes everybody so sure that he will? I think he is smart enough to know that another year to work on his passing would be a really good idea.
To make dang sure that when an NFL team drafts him, they draft him for the QUARTERBACK position, and not something else.bigcarlos said:If Vince wins the NC and the heisman and will be a top pick with millions waiting for him???????????? What reason would he have to come back???????
That's a lot of if's, but one thing he can do is learn to more effectively pass the ball. Throwing motion, accuracy, better read defense, etc... QB is a always learning and getting better position.bigcarlos said:If Vince wins the NC and the heisman and will be a top pick with millions waiting for him???????????? What reason would he have to come back???????
I'll be your huckleberry, break out the petition and sign me up.LCROD said:That's a lot of if's, but one thing he can do is learn to more effectively pass the ball. Throwing motion, accuracy, better read defense, etc... QB is a always learning and getting better position.
The way I see it playing out is Young stays for his senior year, Carr is given a two/three year extension/buyback ('06-'07, '07-'08, '08-'09 seasons). Young is drafted in next years draft ('06-'07), sits the year behind Carr ('07-'08), starts or competes the year after for starting QB. This draft ('05-'06) we get better olinemen, give them some time to gel before brining in Young.
One can only dream right?
I like that.Texas said:But eventually we will have to take our chances and draft a new QB. I still say we go after Bush and put him or davis at WR and then a LT and stick with carr 1 more year to see what he can do with protection. Thats just me though!
It would be interesting to see Bush at WR, but Davis certainly could not play WR.Texas said:But eventually we will have to take our chances and draft a new QB. I still say we go after Bush and put him or davis at WR and then a LT and stick with carr 1 more year to see what he can do with protection. Thats just me though!
IMO the most interesting thing about Reggie Bush will be what we can get draft day trading partners to give up in order to get him. There are several teams that are bad that would kill to get him (49ers, Green Bay, Jets, and Arizona to name a few). In addition, there are teams that will want Leinart (Miami, Cleavland, Arizona, Baltimore, Jets perhaps).MorKnolle said:It would be interesting to see Bush at WR, but Davis certainly could not play WR.
Yoiu cant be serious? We not only want, but need either Leinart or Bush. We cannot afford to trade out of this position for draft picks...humbleone said:IMO the most interesting thing about Reggie Bush will be what we can get draft day trading partners to give up in order to get him. There are several teams that are bad that would kill to get him (49ers, Green Bay, Jets, and Arizona to name a few). In addition, there are teams that will want Leinart (Miami, Cleavland, Arizona, Baltimore, Jets perhaps).
It is possible we could be in a terrific position to get some nice value for only dropping down a few places and still get one of the top 3 LT's. Let the other bad teams get the QB or RB playmaker..I would rather have their first round pick and an extra pick in the 2-4 range from any of the guys above.
i dont know about L********t but definitely Mr. BushHomeBred_Texan said:Yoiu cant be serious? We not only want, but need either Leinart or Bush. We cannot afford to trade out of this position for draft picks...
HomeBred_Texan said:Yoiu cant be serious? We not only want, but need either Leinart or Bush. We cannot afford to trade out of this position for draft picks...
Actually, I am. If we don't take one of the top 3 LT prospects with our first pick, that is a huge mistake. Every football team at any level succeeds or fails based on primarily how strong (or weak) they are right up the middle on both sides of the ball and the Texans have the weakest OL in the business. Quality OL's are built primarily through the draft with high picks. A quality OL is the foundation we can build a good offense on once we get new coaches here.HomeBred_Texan said:Yoiu cant be serious? We not only want, but need either Leinart or Bush. We cannot afford to trade out of this position for draft picks...
The Colts are 9-0 and they only have one guy that was acquired above the 4th rnd of the draft on their O-line. They also have two guys they acquired though free agency. They did acquire WR,QB,and RB in the first rnd. We have two of these WR and QB. Why not model our team on a winning formula?humbleone said:Actually, I am. If we don't take one of the top 3 LT prospects with our first pick, that is a huge mistake. Quality OL's are built primarily through the draft with high picks. A quality OL is the foundation we can build a good offense on once we get new coaches here.
texplayer2 said:The Colts are 9-0 and they only have one guy that was acquired above the 4th rnd of the draft on their O-line. They also have two guys they acquired though free agency. They did acquire WR,QB,and RB in the first rnd. We have two of these WR and QB. Why not model our team on a winning formula?
Well, that presentation seems a little less than full disclosure. The one guy they acquired above the 4th round was their LT and he was acquired with a 1st round pick--you could throw in the TE as well, also a 1st round pick. So why not model our team on a winning formula and draft a LT?texplayer2 said:The Colts are 9-0 and they only have one guy that was acquired above the 4th rnd of the draft on their O-line. They also have two guys they acquired though free agency. They did acquire WR,QB,and RB in the first rnd. We have two of these WR and QB. Why not model our team on a winning formula?
You aren't going to save any money paying out a top 5 draft salary. Those guys get paid more than you think.tulexan said:We tried to acquire Orlando Pace last year and couldn't. Therefore we are going to draft the best LT in the draft. Elite linemen are very expensive too, so drafting one rather than pursuing one through free agency would make sense because then we can spend the saved money on other positions.
Yup, the #1 guy is projecting out at about $9.1 mil per year on their contract.Vinny said:You aren't going to save any money paying out a top 5 draft salary. Those guys get paid more than you think.
The contracts on draft picks aren't done on position much if at all. They are essentially done as slots. The teams and the agents negotiate a deal generally around 10% better for the same slot the year before. There is no way we could take a LT or RB with the #1 overall and get them to play for a $5 or 6 mil average contract.tulexan said:No I realize that they are getting paid a lot. But it is also depends on the player and the position. Walter Jones and Orlando Pace both received contracts around 7 years and $50 Million. Alex Smith, Eli Manning, and Phillip Rivers all received huge contracts because players at the top of their position are receiving well over $10 Million/year. Even if D'Brick got a similar contact to Jones and Pace, which I don't think he will, we are still getting a younger player, not one who is in their late 20's or early 30's.