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Are the Texans trading for Dwayne Bowe?

b0ng

b0ng

Bad Hombre
From twitter:

@SedanoShow Rumor swirling that KC is still looking to move Dwayne Bowe. But to an AFC South Team

First impression : No freaking way.

However, we are in uncharted territory and I'm not sure if Bowe being franchised has salary cap implications that make this trade doable for the Texans. Head would spin if it did happen.
 
I don't see this being us (though depending on the deal, would not mind at all him playing on this football team). Maybe Jax or Indy?
 
b0ng said:
From twitter:

@SedanoShow Rumor swirling that KC is still looking to move Dwayne Bowe. But to an AFC South Team

First impression : No freaking way.

However, we are in uncharted territory and I'm not sure if Bowe being franchised has salary cap implications that make this trade doable for the Texans. Head would spin if it did happen.
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For Texans? After drafting 2 wrs in 2012 draft? Our cap situation and all? It is us? I am having difficult time believing this. I wouldn't complain if it is true.
 
maybe to the jaguars or the titans? idk, but i did wanted Bowe to come here this offseason... doubt kubiak would trade for him tho. would be a big time red zone threat and would take the double team off of andre. for once i'd love to see andre get 10+ TDs in a season.
 
Dwayne Bowe and Andre Johnson would be awesome. I'd be willing to give up a 2nd round pick this year and maybe a 3rd or 4th rounder next year. But he's making about $9 million this year. Unless we have some way of freeing that much room, it's probably not us.

According to this article the Jags and Titans both have the most available cap room in the NFL at $25 million and $19 million. The Colts have $14 million. We're at $4 million.
 
If we did it. It would be before the weekend, like Thursday night imo. To Give Bowe the bye week to start learning offense. I think it would take him 3-4 weeks till Kubiak was comfortable enough to have him on the field.

The only thing I can see that causes us to push for this trade is KMart's sudden case of stone hands when playing WR, as well as maybe there is something more going on with Lestar Jean
 
Only way I see it being possible is if the Texans send players nearing the cap hit.

Per Rotoworld
8/17/2012: Signed a one-year, $9.515 million contract. The deal is fully guaranteed.

9,515,000 per 16 games
that is 594,687.50 per game
9 games remaining is 5,352,187.50 as a cap hit


Do the Texans get any kind of cap relief when placing players on Injured Reserved?
 
I think when you make a trade that puts you over the cap you have a certain time period to rework a contract before the league steps in. He could sign a new contract upon his arrival.
 
Titans and Jags drafted high WR's and neither make trade sense at this point in their seasons, even if they do have most cap room.

Only Texans and Indy make sense and for Indy it's not a bad trade considering they are in similar situation with an aging Reggie Wayne.

If and a BIG IF it is the Texans it could just be a one year rental. I am not sure how his salrary this year would impact the current cap or next year's. One year rental or not I'd like what this says about the FO really going for it this year.
 
SteveSlaton20 said:
TJ Yates and an early pick?
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Absolutely not. The guy's an unrestricted free agent at the end of the season, plus, I believe it would take a few weeks to get him acclimated to the offense (if he could even do it before season's end).

I don't think this makes any sense from either a football standpoint, or a cap standpoint, but if it is doable, it better be for next to nothing.
 
hot pickle said:
its gonna be indy for sure.
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I agree. Jags just drafted Blackmon and signed Robinson. Tacks just drafted Wright in the 1st round and still have Britt and Washington. Indy makes a lot of sense to help Luck out. Keep a close eye on Irsay's twitter.
 
ChampionTexan said:
Absolutely not. The guy's an unrestricted free agent at the end of the season, plus, I believe it would take a few weeks to get him acclimated to the offense (if he could even do it before season's end).

I don't think this makes any sense from either a football standpoint, or a cap standpoint, but it it is doable, it better be for next to nothing.
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yeah, I like TJ too, but if it was the texans, i dont see who else we would trade.
 
srrono said:
My guess would be the Colts with them in the race for a playoff spot.
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Jup.... The Colts would be my guess as well. With the state of affairs in the entire AFC, the Colts hitting a wildcard wouldn't be that much of a stretch, not to mention it would give Luck a nice target as the aging Harrison fades out.
 
Texan_Bill said:
Jup.... The Colts would be my guess as well. With the state of affairs in the entire AFC, the Colts hitting a wildcard wouldn't be that much of a stretch, not to mention it would give Luck a nice target as the aging Harrison fades out.
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man, your age is getting to you Bill...
 
SteveSlaton20 said:
yeah, I like TJ too, but if it was the texans, i dont see who else we would trade.
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You want to trade him for a guy who's under contract for 9 more games, may very well be ineffective for several of those, and who will be getting big dollars from somebody next season?
 
The only way I could see it working is if him being franchised, and it being mid season, there is cap relief for his contract.
 
Highly doubt the Texans make a radical move like this mid-season. This is generally a conservative bunch and I don't think it's their style. Would be nice though to have someone like Bowe lineup next to AJ. If he's really rumored to be coming to the AFC South, I think it's probably the Titans.
 
Nawzer said:
Highly doubt the Texans make a radical move like this mid-season. This is generally a conservative bunch and I don't think it's their style. Would be nice though to have someone like Bowe lineup next to AJ. If he's really rumored to be coming to the AFC South, I think it's probably the Titans.
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Unless Bowe can play safety or LB I don't think he's going to help the Titans that much.
 
Nawzer said:
Highly doubt the Texans make a radical move like this mid-season. This is generally a conservative bunch and I don't think it's their style. Would be nice though to have someone like Bowe lineup next to AJ. If he's really rumored to be coming to the AFC South, I think it's probably the Titans.
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Titans need work in the trenches, and spent a first on a WR. Washington and Britt are good players.

Indy just dealt a 2nd rounder for Vontae Davis, and I'm not sure Grigson wants to lose another precious draft pick when he still has so many holes to fill.

JAX just traded up in the first to draft Blackmon and signed Laurent Robinson in the offseason. I'm not sure they want to go this route either with how awful the rest of their team is.


Come to think of it, it wouldn't make sense for any of the AFCS teams.
 
bowe certainly fits, i've thought for a couple years now that he'd be the most ideal WR out there for kubiak - big physical receiver who can take over the middle of the field and block downfield. i still dont see it happening though. too big of a move, we dont have the money, walter just came off a big game and we have 3 young guys fighting for playing time. he'd be a huge asset for the texans, but i cant imagine the brass attempting something so aggressive halfway through a successful season.
 
Nawzer said:
Highly doubt the Texans make a radical move like this mid-season. This is generally a conservative bunch and I don't think it's their style. Would be nice though to have someone like Bowe lineup next to AJ. If he's really rumored to be coming to the AFC South, I think it's probably the Titans.
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I would normally agree with this, but the Texans should be in a "this is the year" mode. If the salary cap works, this is the type of move that a we are ready now team would/could /should do. The biggest real question with the Texans offense is can the team lean on the passing game to win football games? I know that when close or ahead, the passing game is fine. Not sure when down 10 in the 4th quarter and we have to pass to win.
 
ArlingtonTexan said:
I would normally agree with this, but the Texans should be in a "this is the year" mode. If the salary cap works, this is the type of move that a we are ready now team would/could /should do. The biggest real question with the Texans offense is can the team lean on the passing game to win football games? I know that when close or ahead, the passing game is fine. Not sure when down 10 in the 4th quarter and we have to pass to win.
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I agree that the window to win in the NFL is a short window unless you're the Steelers, Packers, and the Pats. I hope the Texans can become a perennial contender like those teams, but it's tough to sustain that kind of success over the long haul. I just don't see Rick Smith pulling a move like this. Bowe can be a great red zone asset for us, but it'll take him a long time to pick up this complicated offense.
 
It'd be nice if it were true. Won't happen though. No way the Texans shake up the team right now. If they had laid a stinker against Baltimore, then maybe we do something out of the ordinary. But not right now.

I'd love to sign Bowe in the offseason though. The guy would thrive in this system. It's not often you get to sign a franchise WR in free agency.
 
Bowe wouldn't help anybody at this point in the season. We are at the half way point, he would have to come in and learn a brand new playbook. Not only that but he would then need to build chemistry with the QB and rest of the team.

I say the Titans, only Bud could be this dumb.
 
Goldensilence said:
Only Texans and Indy make sense and for Indy it's not a bad trade considering they are in similar situation with an aging Reggie Wayne.
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I could see Indy, they're probably kicking themselves in the butt for letting Garcon go. The remainder of their schedule is pretty dull, minus Texans (x2) & Patriots. They can possibly make a play-off run with a little luck.... <--luck, I crack myself up.
 
SteveSlaton20 said:
yeah, I like TJ too, but if it was the texans, i dont see who else we would trade.
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If the Chiefs saw a future with Bowe, they wouldn't be talking about trading him. If they trade him, I'm sure they'll take a chance on a few chill'n....... Posey maybe, Posey & Martin?

Maybe they'd like a wily vet? KDub & Posey?
 
Is it possible to negotiate a long term deal when trading for a franchised player in the middle of a season? That's the only way this could even remotely be possible. I don't see it happening.
 
Some thoughts:

The blurb said "KC still wants to trade Bowe". So nothing has changed including why he was not traded before now.

If Texans are still $4m under cap & Bowe cap hit is $5m that is doable.

Take the time and read these posts from beginning; several say Bowe would be great and others say take him too long to learn system. hmm

stats Bowe: 2012 Regular Season 34 66 427 12.6 33 3 28
stats A.J. : 2012 Regular Season 34 53 444 13.1 60 2 25

How can a player of Bowe skills not be a plus across from AJ? If you are a opposing DC will you play him loose hoping he does not yet know the play book? Me neither.

If cap is not an issue, what would KC want? Picks, a player or both?


2013 draft KC should have first or second pick & could get Geno Smith or Barkley and use our first round pick on next greatest need. KC would want more but not in position to get more from Houston
 
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