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Matt Schaub Signs Extension

TheMatrix31

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Per Mark Berman:

RT @MarkBermanFox26: Matt Schaub's extension is for 4 years worth 62 million/24.750 guaranteed
 
He's gettin paid like a top 10 QB .... Now he better play like one and stay on the field.

On to getting Barwin done.
 
Ugh... I dont feel good about the length of that contract. I realize it only puts him at 35, but still, just not a good feeling. Hopefully I am wrong though.
 
I think Barwin is gonna wish he took the Texans offer. He has looked very average after putting on weight...
 
Good news, looks as if its very lucrative to him if he stays healthy and good, and reasonable for the Texans if he doesn't. Gives us options if Yates develops into starter material in that timeframe as well.
 
I really hope that the last year is a lot of backloaded salary. 15.5 million a year average is a lot for him.
 
wolf123 said:
And you don't feel good about it why???
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Just a gut feeling, you know? Schaub is a good QB. Arguably top 10, and I am very happy that he is on the Texans. However, I dont know if we can win a Super Bowl with him. When the pocket breaks down, the Schaub has, historically, been and trouble. And it sounds like (I could not watch the game) he has gotten even worse in this regard. This is something that will never get better.

I am not advocating a running QB- I dont want a Vick or Young. I do want a guy, who when stuff goes down, can make plays with his feet, even if it is just buying time. Look at the last couple QBs to win a Super Bowl- Eli Manning (not a run threat, but moves well), Rodgers, Big Ben, Brees, Brady. Peyton is the only real exception here, and even that is questionable since his release was so quick.

Like I said, Schaub is a good QB. In particular, he has probably the best play action fake in the NFL. I just dont think he can get it done without pristine protection.
 
Damn 1 game and they sign him to an extension, and then Jamison gets 1 sack and an extension WTF, we played the Dolphins. Just saying
 
I'm good with it. It is a bit more than I was expecting.

So, does this mean the Texans will be looking for his replacement sometimes in the next 3 drafts? I hope so.
 
EllisUnit said:
Damn 1 game and they sign him to an extension, and then Jamison gets 1 sack and an extension WTF, we played the Dolphins. Just saying
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Yeah... these moves were not hinged on the outcome of this game. A lot of time goes into these contracts. This was probably worked up this morning or last night.
 
The guaranteed portion doesn't seem overly steep, all things considered. Here's to Schaub managing games like he did today!
 
i like it, though it's quite a bit bigger than i think it should be. schaub is the quarterback we're built for. when discussing our other quarterbacks i compare them to schaub ... can they "throw to a spot blindfolded" like schaub? the answer is always "no". average arm, no mobility, doesnt adjust very quickly ... but he's accurate and as i said - he can put the ball exactly where it's supposed to be based on the offensive and defensive calls faster than anyone we could sign. there is one knock, his heath ... and even that is hardly a knock. every injury is from awkward contact, not muscle or joint or anything hinting at a weakness.

towards his age, it doesnt matter. he's more in the chad pennington mold, decision and accuracy are key, though he still has more velocity than our current rookie. as long as matt and kubiak are together, he's going to be no worse than very very good.
 
This is another great signing by the Texans, 15.5/yr (-the usual, contractual real world amount) for a QB is just where he should Schaub should be. He performs at a top third level and got a top third contract. He IS the Texans'/Kubiak's/System QB that is needed for the offensive system, and if anyone watched last year's playoff games you should feel comfortable that he can take us to a divisional championship and beyond.

His only replacement would come from having an absolute miserable year(s) and being lucky that a legitimate rookie QB was waiting there for you... Don't know about you all, but I'm not ready to do that yet, when we've finally gotten to the top of the hill.
 
Iceman16 said:
Because we're paying $15M/year to an above-average player.
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Besides Schaub, who else would you recommend being our starting QB? Schaub, despite some of his failings, is still a good QB in Kubiak's system. And he did make some good throws today.
 
wolf123 said:
Yes, lets live through another season of TJ yates.... He looked so good this preason:kitten:
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Again, that has nothing to do with Schaub being overpaid. Using 4 preseason games from Yates as your irrelevant counterargument has even less to do with it.
 
Dutchrudder said:
That's salary only and doesn't include roster, signing and workout bonuses. It also doesn't give a good indication of the average caphit per year, which is really what matters.
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The 15.5 is his base, so it's relevant. With the signing bonus alone he's still in the same territory, and still overpaid.
 
Iceman16 said:
The 15.5 is his base, so it's relevant. With the signing bonus alone he's still in the same territory, and still overpaid.
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You have no idea how much of it is incentive based, there's no way to tell how much he's really going to earn. 25 guaranteed is actually pretty reasonable, as that's basically 2 years guaranteed, plus a little more. As I said earlier, I hope it's backloaded so that we are basically making a 2-3 year deal with him, and he won't earn the 20 million or whatever it could be in year 4. Look at some of those contracts you linked, almost every one of those QBs are making outrageous sums in their final years, and it's unlikely they will get it.

I'm willing to bet about 10 million of it is tied up in incentives based on things like starting 14-16 regular season games, 2 million bonus for winning the Super Bowl, 1 million bonus for winning AFC, etc etc. QB contracts are always inflated by stuff like that.
 
Rick Smith and the gang have done well with contracts to get the benefit of the doubt that this is a good contract extension. I can't think of many other quarterbacks that are going to be free next year that can take his spot through trade or FA.

From the homer fan like myself it may seem that Schaub's contract is a contract for the "injury free matt schaub" instead of the "injury prone Matt Schaub." But like I said Rick gets the benefit of the doubt at the end of the day.

So with his contract extension who isn't going to get resigned next year? Smith? Who else?
 
Well, as of yesterday, if you'd asked me who would agree to a last minute (in terms of the beginning of the season) extension, I would have said Barwin in a heartbeat.

Shows what I know, but I'm extremely happy to see that Matt has re-upped and is property of the Texans for a little longer.
 
As concerns the 2012 cap, Schaub was going to count $10,950,000 ([base salary] 7,150,000 , [signing bonus] 750,000, ["other" bonuses] 3,050,000)

Wonder what the implications of the hit will now be.
 
I guess it is nice to get some business out of the way. Schaub is better than what a lot of teams have to play with and better than what we could probably get in FA or the draft, drafting at 32.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
Per Mark Berman:

RT @MarkBermanFox26: Matt Schaub's extension is for 4 years worth 62 million/24.750 guaranteed
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62/4= 15.5

Are we paying Matt $15.5M/yr?

I tell you what... Houston fans love them some Schaub. I was up in 609, and after another disappointing drive (before the turnovers) I tried to start the chant, "TJ, TJ, TJ.... "

I got some ugly looks and almost didn't make it out of there.
 
Fiddler said:
62/4= 15.5

Are we paying Matt $15.5M/yr?

I tell you what... Houston fans love them some Schaub. I was up in 609, and after another disappointing drive (before the turnovers) I tried to start the chant, "TJ, TJ, TJ.... "

I got some ugly looks and almost didn't make it out of there.
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I dont blame the others around you. TJ looked like he belonged with the special teams players
 
Fiddler said:
62/4= 15.5

Are we paying Matt $15.5M/yr?

I tell you what... Houston fans love them some Schaub. I was up in 609, and after another disappointing drive (before the turnovers) I tried to start the chant, "TJ, TJ, TJ.... "

I got some ugly looks and almost didn't make it out of there.
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So you're one of those guys huh? Yeah, a 102 QB rating and 266 yards passing is definitely worthy of a QB getting yanked in favor of a QB whose last meaningful action was just chunking the ball up for grabs. :kitten:
 
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