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Do we have a Super Bowl team or not?

badboy

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Cuts are pretty much over & final starters set. Sure RT is a question mark especially with Butler out but he did not play last season and if Newton can play as much as his predecessor, the swing may not matter.

Schaub & AJ seemingly have resolved questions about current health even if not known how healthy each will remain.

Trindon could end up with a Holliday named after him.

Our WRs look better than last season and Dreesen's loss may be erased by Graham.

Defense, well that is a concern for me with Brooks and Bradie James not doing as well I hoped. NT remains a question as does our back up DBs.

Regardless, I'm calling a SB for our guys.
 
We'll have a much better indication of things after 2-4 games.

The big question for me on offense isn't the depth at WR, but how the line holds up in both the running and passing game.

And as for defense, I'm not too worried, as Wade has been keeping the good stuff under wraps, and when he unloads it on the opposing team, it'll be tough to beat. If we had to point to a concern, it'd probably be the run D, as was the main issue last year, and I don't feel like we've added anyone to address that.
 
I say yes. I think we have a good 2-3 wide open window for Super bowl appearances. Hopefully this is the year we make it, and the first of many.
 
if we stay reasonably healthy and avoid killer injuries-which imo are qb, lt & rt, all 3 d-line, cush, j-joe, we'll be there at the end of january
 
lesser teams have won the super bowl, better teams have lost the super bowl.

I would say the Texans are in the top half of the top half of the best teams in the league, but that doesn't mean anything until you actually get to the super bowl.
 
we are pretty much in the same boat as the

Ravens
Denver
Cheifs


everything looks good on paper we got the players the coaches good running game and good D and the prototipacal QB

and there is left 2 do is Excute ... and thats the hardest thing

look at the ravens they have been trying to excute for 5 years
 
Norg said:
we are pretty much in the same boat as the

Ravens
Denver
Cheifs


everything looks good on paper we got the players the coaches good running game and good D and the prototipacal QB

and there is left 2 do is Excute ... and thats the hardest thing

look at the ravens they have been trying to excute for 5 years
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:vincepalm:
 
Norg said:
we are pretty much in the same boat as the

Ravens
Denver
Cheifs


everything looks good on paper we got the players the coaches good running game and good D and the prototipacal QB

and there is left 2 do is Excute ... and thats the hardest thing

look at the ravens they have been trying to excute for 5 years
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The Chiefs? Cassel is ****in horrible. They got good defence, good running game, but Cassel is nowhere near Schaub. Not even close
 
TheEastwood said:
The Chiefs? Cassel is ****in horrible. They got good defence, good running game, but Cassel is nowhere near Schaub. Not even close
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hmm maybe i just ment the type of QB the texans and cheifs have

Both the typical 6 foot QB pocket passer

but anyway IMO the gap between Cassel and Schaub is not like supppperrr big IMO but we shall see this year this is a big year for both QB's
 
You have be both lucky and good to get to the Super Bowl.

The luck part has to do with injuries. And we have never been lucky.

So no, we ain't going.
 
Let's see what happens. As always, it depends on health and getting hot at the right time. Home field would be really nice if we can do it.

Limit the turnovers and penalties, make sure we get consistently good field position, attack attack attack, and good things should happen.
 
u know no one has mentiond this to the people outside of texas they will look has this season has can the texans be consistent ???? can they have back to back winning seasons

can they be like the Pats the pittsburgs and Ravens

if we win big this year it will be our first back to back winning seasons
 
As I said before, 2012 IS our year.

Mayan calender "says the end will happen in Dec."

Houston football luck, we FINALLY have a good team that is superbowl bound only to have the world end just before the superbowl happens.
 
Maddict5 said:
if we stay reasonably healthy and avoid killer injuries-which imo are qb, lt & rt, all 3 d-line, cush, j-joe, we'll be there at the end of january
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One injury to that OL , especially at either tackle spot and things could get ugly.

I dont want to see Gardner anywhere near the field .... :gun:
 
Corrosion said:
One injury to that OL , especially at either tackle spot and things could get ugly.

I dont want to see Gardner anywhere near the field .... :gun:
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^^^^
This

However Brooks might be able to step in at RT by the middle of the yr.

If Brown goes down they're screwed. As most teams would be.
 
Norg said:
we are pretty much in the same boat as the

Ravens
Denver
Cheifs


everything looks good on paper we got the players the coaches good running game and good D and the prototipacal QB

and there is left 2 do is Excute ... and thats the hardest thing

look at the ravens they have been trying to excute for 5 years
Click to expand...

This Norg post is sponsored by Webster's and facepalms.
 
your damn right we have a superbowl team!!!!

there is no one we fear and in my opinion there is no one better.
There are a few teams equal to us but it will be settled till later in the season where we rank. For now put at us as equal number 1 with about 4 other teams.
 
Do we have the quality and skill necessary to win the Super Bowl? YES. Do we have the heart, guts, killer instinct, and luck? I'll let you know in late January.
 
I remember being in this situation twice before, being this optimistic about our teams future.

We just finished the 2004 season 7-9.... Year 4, we thought our young team had matured & were ready to Take the next step. Then the other shoe dropped & we went 2-14.

After the 2009 season our young leaders looked poised to carry us to a higher level of play after finishing the season recording our first winning season @ 9-7 we looked destined for the play-offs. Then the other shoe dropped & we finished 6-10.

As a fan of Houston football, you know the other foot is about to drop.
 
thunderkyss said:
I remember being in this situation twice before, being this optimistic about our teams future.

As a fan of Houston football, you know the other foot is about to drop.
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You do realize this has no affect on future performance, right?

Look, the AFC is weaker than it has been in years. Pittsburgh is aging. Baltimore is re-tooling their defense. The Patriots have concerns on both sides of the ball. There is no other franchise in the AFC better prepared to compete with these teams than the Texans.

No the Texans are not a perfect team. That doesn't exist in the salary cap era that exists now. But for all of their questions, they have more answers. No other AFC team can throw out the collection of talent the Texans have (AJ, Foster, Brown, Watt, Barwin, Cushing, Joseph). Given the correct chemistry and guidance, that talent should shine through.
 
thunderkyss said:
I remember being in this situation twice before, being this optimistic about our teams future.

We just finished the 2004 season 7-9.... Year 4, we thought our young team had matured & were ready to Take the next step. Then the other shoe dropped & we went 2-14.

After the 2009 season our young leaders looked poised to carry us to a higher level of play after finishing the season recording our first winning season @ 9-7 we looked destined for the play-offs. Then the other shoe dropped & we finished 6-10.

As a fan of Houston football, you know the other foot is about to drop.
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Neither the 2004 team nor the 2009 team had nearly as good of a defense (or offense for that matter) as the 2011 team. I remember more vividly people wondering out loud if Jackson/Quin as CB1 and CB2 would not bite us in the hiney since we just let D-Rob go that offseason.
 
thunderkyss said:
I remember being in this situation twice before, being this optimistic about our teams future.

We just finished the 2004 season 7-9.... Year 4, we thought our young team had matured & were ready to Take the next step. Then the other shoe dropped & we went 2-14.

After the 2009 season our young leaders looked poised to carry us to a higher level of play after finishing the season recording our first winning season @ 9-7 we looked destined for the play-offs. Then the other shoe dropped & we finished 6-10.

As a fan of Houston football, you know the other foot is about to drop.
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Well, which is it? Is the shoe gonna drop or is the foot? Shoes I don't care about, you can get 'em cheap on Amazon. Feet though can be a problem.
 
I think we are capable, but will need some luck to go our way to get there. If our o-line holds up and we're injury free, we should be in the AFC Championship game I think. With that said, I don't think we're a Super Bowl team this year. We have big question marks with our receiving corps, o-line, and the health of several of our big name players like AJ, Shaun Cody, and Brian Cushing's injury.
 
Lucky said:
You do realize this has no affect on future performance, right?

Look, the AFC is weaker than it has been in years. Pittsburgh is aging. Baltimore is re-tooling their defense. The Patriots have concerns on both sides of the ball. There is no other franchise in the AFC better prepared to compete with these teams than the Texans.

No the Texans are not a perfect team. That doesn't exist in the salary cap era that exists now. But for all of their questions, they have more answers. No other AFC team can throw out the collection of talent the Texans have (AJ, Foster, Brown, Watt, Barwin, Cushing, Joseph). Given the correct chemistry and guidance, that talent should shine through.
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This. Injury is only thing I fear as we can play with any team. We have good depth in most positions. I think Kubes needs to really shine with play calling and Wade needs to bring his crew in with much more of his 3-4 playbook.
 
My gut says "No". I just think there are too many question marks about the O-line and receivers. Add in injuries & the outlook is even worse.
 
Cjeremy635 said:
My gut says "No". I just think there are too many question marks about the O-line and receivers. Add in injuries & the outlook is even worse.
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i'm actually not worried about the WRs now. I think this is the best group of WRs we have ever had. If AJ goes down i feel a lot more confident than i did a season ago thats for sure.
 
Wolf6151 said:
Do we have the quality and skill necessary to win the Super Bowl? YES. Do we have the heart, guts, killer instinct, and luck? I'll let you know in late January.
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This.

I am just going to wait and enjoy each game as it comes along. If it leads us to a Super Bowl - Fantastic!! If not - BOOO.

The season is too short and the off-season is way to long to be worrying about the last game of the season before the first game has even been played.

:texan::fans::gotexans1
 
Lucky said:
You do realize this has no affect on future performance, right?

Look, the AFC is weaker than it has been in years. Pittsburgh is aging. Baltimore is re-tooling their defense. The Patriots have concerns on both sides of the ball. There is no other franchise in the AFC better prepared to compete with these teams than the Texans.

No the Texans are not a perfect team. That doesn't exist in the salary cap era that exists now. But for all of their questions, they have more answers. No other AFC team can throw out the collection of talent the Texans have (AJ, Foster, Brown, Watt, Barwin, Cushing, Joseph). Given the correct chemistry and guidance, that talent should shine through.
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There is a window right now...hopefully we can step in it. Carpe diem!
 
If defenses truly WIN SBs, then YEP, we have a chance. WAIT!! We still have KJ as a starter! Hummmmmm, not so sure now!:aggressive: Ask again mid season!
 
SheTexan said:
If defenses truly WIN SBs, then YEP, we have a chance. WAIT!! !
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Wait... our defense has been at the top of the league once.... just once. But all of a sudden we're the Ravens.

I don't think so. I think we're more like the Packers. They had the #2 defense in the league in 2010, not so good in 2011.
 
The Texans have an excellent chance at winning a SB title. We have the talent, now we need the luck. I'd be happier going 9-7 in the regular season and winning the SB than being 15-1 and not ever getting there.
 
After one game, I think verdict is still out. We need to see a complete dominance of the "next team up."
 
badboy said:
After one game, I think verdict is still out. We need to see a complete dominance of the "next team up."
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I thought we looked as good as any other team out there, better than most... until I saw the Ravens.

To me, it looked like the Bengals just ran out of gas. They were right there with them until the last few minutes of the third qtr. The Ravens were pretty impressive, even though they gave up 129 yards on the ground & 322 yards total. Ray Rice only gained 68 yards on the ground. But he only carried the ball 10 times.

But I think we said the same thing early last season, then the Ravens ran out of gas. Let's see what happens this year.

Cincinnati also looked very good at times. I think they are in the same position as we are (other than being favored in our division). They had high expectations coming into the season, but it was gut check time yesterday & I'm sure they didn't like what they saw. Overall they played well, but there are more areas that need addressing than they thought.... just my take.
 
as the season moves along, teams change. We've all seen this to many times now. Let's revisit this in NFL Week 10, then the smoke will be more cleared.
 
Isn't this too early to discuss SB? Worry about the season/divison 1st! The AFC South is getting more competative, so the Texans window is open this season, but next season?
 
mootini said:
Isn't this too early to discuss SB? Worry about the season/divison 1st! The AFC South is getting more competative, so the Texans window is open this season, but next season?
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Really?? I feel a Denny Green moment coming on.

:toropalm:
 
mootini said:
Isn't this too early to discuss SB? Worry about the season/divison 1st! The AFC South is getting more competative, so the Texans window is open this season, but next season?
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See on "Texanstalk" We can gladly talk about the superbowl, and isnt it a little to early to be talking competition in the AFC South next season :kingkong:
 
Fiddler said:
I thought we looked as good as any other team out there, better than most... until I saw the Ravens.

To me, it looked like the Bengals just ran out of gas. They were right there with them until the last few minutes of the third qtr. The Ravens were pretty impressive, even though they gave up 129 yards on the ground & 322 yards total. Ray Rice only gained 68 yards on the ground. But he only carried the ball 10 times.

But I think we said the same thing early last season, then the Ravens ran out of gas. Let's see what happens this year.

Cincinnati also looked very good at times. I think they are in the same position as we are (other than being favored in our division). They had high expectations coming into the season, but it was gut check time yesterday & I'm sure they didn't like what they saw. Overall they played well, but there are more areas that need addressing than they thought.... just my take.
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2 quick things on the Ravens....

1) Its Flacco. He looks great one week then just craps the bed the next. Never forget Jacoby Jones either....

2) Suggs is still out and no matter how much everyone sucks at the teet of Ray Lewis/Ed Reed they wont play the entire season. One week in and Reed already has a messed up hammy.
 
Texans going to the Super Bowl? LOL!

Yeah. Riiight!

Maybe someday after I'm in the the broadcast booth, but now? Keep dreamin.

- Peyton Manning -
 
Fiddler said:
I thought we looked as good as any other team out there, better than most... until I saw the Ravens.

To me, it looked like the Bengals just ran out of gas. They were right there with them until the last few minutes of the third qtr. The Ravens were pretty impressive, even though they gave up 129 yards on the ground & 322 yards total. Ray Rice only gained 68 yards on the ground. But he only carried the ball 10 times.

But I think we said the same thing early last season, then the Ravens ran out of gas. Let's see what happens this year.

Cincinnati also looked very good at times. I think they are in the same position as we are (other than being favored in our division). They had high expectations coming into the season, but it was gut check time yesterday & I'm sure they didn't like what they saw. Overall they played well, but there are more areas that need addressing than they thought.... just my take.
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It's the Bengals..the same team that the Texans, with a 3rd string QB and a 3 game slide came in and beat pretty handily...I wouldn't expect much different if we were to play them with a healthy Shaub and AJ....Except Kubiak pumps the breaks once we go up by 20.
 
Perki-Perk said:
It's the Bengals..the same team that the Texans, with a 3rd string QB and a 3 game slide came in and beat pretty handily...I wouldn't expect much different if we were to play them with a healthy Shaub and AJ....Except Kubiak pumps the breaks once we go up by 20.
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I wish they were the Dolphins & we can expect to beat them every year, but I don't think that's the case. The Bengals aren't a gimme.

I think we've got a nice string of wins against them, but I don't think we've got their number by any means.
 
mootini said:
Isn't this too early to discuss SB? Worry about the season/divison 1st! The AFC South is getting more competative, so the Texans window is open this season, but next season?
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Depends on one's perception I guess. I wanted winning season & got that. Then wanted a championship & got that; with this roster & our division a chmpionship is not enough for me. As players have said, the goal is Super Bowl so it is my goal also. It is not too early to evaluate your team. You simply adjust your eval weekly. I do that with my mocks. You may be one of those fans who just watch a game for the fun, beer, food and companionship. That is cool but not me.

I watch for flaws and strengths and decisions by coaches and players. I enjoy working the cap and salaries & watching college games to create mocks and trades. At this point I am not worried at all.
 
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