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Kubiak wants to add fourth QB

9baller said:
According to http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/18985042 the fourth QB will "play behind Matt Schaub, T.J. Yates and rookie Case Keenum." Is this an indication Schaub will be delayed in returning? thoughts?
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This is something we've already talked about a lot already. Not this particular news report but that we needed at least 1 more camp arm but almost definitely one of the vet's out there.

If Matt eventually makes it back before the beginning of the season, then we probably go Matt/TJ/Case assuming TJ progresses as we expect. If Matt goes onto PUP or something like that, then we probably go TJ/Vet/Case. Either way, we need at least 1 more QB in camp possibly 2 with the extra being a camp arm.
 
Okay, I'll try out and tell you guys how it goes. I can probably throw accurately 10 yards or less and run the 40 in about 9.9 seconds. I tried benching the bar and was able to do so once. The most I've ever ran was from my couch to the fridge in the kitchen to get some beer.

Sign me up, Coach Kubes!
 
We should get Drew Brees. He hasnt signed yet.

Oh wait. This isn't madden? Camp fodder it is. No story here.
 
Where's the guy from Florida Atlantic University who was tossing all those passes to LeStar Jean???

Name is Jeff Van Camp and 2010 was his senior year. Seems like the offense fell apart around him...lost EIGHT offensive starters in his senior year 2010.

Looked pretty good to me in the videos I saw of him tossing the pigskin to LeStar Jean back in 2010. Dude is 6' 5" and I didn't see a ball to LeStar Jean that wasn't thrown to LeStar with great timing and accuracy. He was flinging the ball DEEP and effortlessly.

Wikipedia entry for free agent QB Jeff Van Camp.

Excerpts from the wikipedia entry:

EARLY YEARS
Initially offered a scholarship to Quincy University, VanCamp had a change of heart when he received a phone call from FAU staff members the morning of signing day offering him the prospect of a full scholarship close to home. In a quarterback class that included himself and Rusty Smith, VanCamp was redshirted his freshman year. Over the course of the 2007 & 2008 seasons, VanCamp would serve as Smith's backup, accumlating statistics of 10/25, 74 yards, 0 TDs, 2 INT, 1 rushing TD, 2 sacks [3] in mop-up duties, as Smith would lead the Owls to a Sun Belt Conference Championship and 2007 New Orleans Bowl & 2008 Motor City Bowl wins.

JUNIOR YEAR (2009)
VanCamp began the 2009 season behind senior Rusty Smith again. During a game against Middle Tennessee, VanCamp was thrusted into action after Smith went down with a shoulder injury. With Smith sidelined for the remainder of the season, VanCamp received his first collegiate start the next week against University of Alabama-Birmingham. VanCamp finished the season 3-2 as a starter, accumulating statistics of 109/184, 1372 yards, 12 TDs, 2 INTs, 3 rushing TDs, 13 sacks, earning a QB rating of 141.23.[3]

SENIOR YEAR (2010)
VanCamp's senior season began with much excitement and enthusiasm as many expected FAU to compete for the Sun Belt Conference championship after VanCamp's breakout junior season. After leading the team to a come-from-behind 32-31 win against UAB and competing in a 30-17 losing effort against Michigan State, FAU embarked on a 5 game losing streak. Out of conference contention, VanCamp lead to Owls to a three game win streak, including a 3 touchdown effort against Louisiana-Lafayette. The Owls then finished the season on a three game losing streak, including a season ending loss to rival Troy. Plagued with having to replace eight offensive starters, VanCamp was still able to put up the fourth best conference numbers, accumulating statistics of 192/335, 2459 yards, 17 TDs, 13 INTs, 34 sacks, earning a QB rating of 127.95.[3]
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Before people say "He hasn't done anything at all in 2011. Probably sacking groceries..." remember there was a Super Bowl quarterback who also was just sacking groceries too.

I can't find anything else on the guy. Google search pulls up nothing but his FAU stats and draft preview articles from back in 2011.
 
Dutchrudder said:
Get Dan Lefevour! He can tell us all of Blaine Gabberts secrets!!!
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Kubiak: "Alright Dan, tell me what Blaine and the Jaguars are trying to accomplish in their offense."

Lefevour: "Well coach, they didn't tell me much. I can tell you what not to do, is that alright?"

Kubiack: "They didn't tell or show you anything?"

Lefevour:" "He showed me how to get in the fetal position, oh and this cool trick where you shout at the guys that try to tackle you! Also there is this cool thing they do before they cross midfield, everyone on the team knows about it though. It's called punting."
 
Kubes

"with Matt being out"

Not rehabing, not coming back later, not delayed until TC ... out.

Just sayin ...
 
Were there 4 QBs going into camp last season? Or the season before that?
 
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TEXANRED said:
That's it. You are banned. I don't care if u own the sight. Go on, ban yourself.
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LOL, I love pushing buttons when it comes to Vince. I do the same thing on a couple of Longhorn boards except I do the opposite. On one I have negative rep points due to me just telling it like it is about Vince. I am always taking stabs at the VY fanboys because they annoy the h*ll out of me and make us normal UT fans look bad.
 
I would like for them to bring in Dennis Dixon but I know we are looking for a 4th stringer. That being said, I'm ok with signing Jake Delhomme again. Get him acclimated with the offense and at the end of camp tell him to sit by the phone and wait.
 
Hookem Horns said:
LOL, I love pushing buttons when it comes to Vince. I do the same thing on a couple of Longhorn boards except I do the opposite. On one I have negative rep points due to me just telling it like it is about Vince. I am always taking stabs at the VY fanboys because they annoy the h*ll out of me and make us normal UT fans look bad.
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Such is the burden of a Texans/Longhorns fan living in Austin. I probably know one of the guys who negative repped you.
 
Hookem Horns said:
LOL, I love pushing buttons when it comes to Vince. I do the same thing on a couple of Longhorn boards except I do the opposite. On one I have negative rep points due to me just telling it like it is about Vince. I am always taking stabs at the VY fanboys because they annoy the h*ll out of me and make us normal UT fans look bad.
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it's funny because, that's ALL you do on the longhorns board. you don't talk about the current longhorn football team, basketball, baseball, or anything else. you only bash VY on SB and then come here and say that you're a normal UT fan when you don't talk anything Longhorns over there.
 
SteveSlaton20 said:
it's funny because, that's ALL you do on the longhorns board. you don't talk about the current longhorn football team, basketball, baseball, or anything else. you only bash VY on SB and then come here and say that you're a normal UT fan when you don't talk anything Longhorns over there.
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SteveSlaton20 said:
it's funny because, that's ALL you do on the longhorns board. you don't talk about the current longhorn football team, basketball, baseball, or anything else. you only bash VY on SB and then come here and say that you're a normal UT fan when you don't talk anything Longhorns over there.
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OMG, don't tell me you are one of those VY (out of touch with reality) jockmunchers on SB. Do you really think SB is a good place to talk about serious UT things? It's too hard to get through all of the profanity, etc to post anything serious over there. I don't (or rarely do) post anything serious on that board. It's just a place where the VY fanboys / Texans basher congregate and I occasionally pop in to mess with them.

However ... please define "bash". I keep asking them to do that over there, to quote me "bashing" Vince and all they reply with is profanity and nothing intelligent. If you don't worship the guy and basically want to be homo with him you are considered a "basher" over there. My issue isn't with VY, it's with all of those VY retards that bashed the Texans for all of those years and still do because they didn't draft their hero. So to double check myself I went back quite a ways and found all of my VY related posts. Let the unbiased here judge if I am "bashing" VY.

Replying in a thread about if VY should stay with the Eagles or sign somewhere else (also making a stab all of those that hate Fisher for not giving him a chance) ..

Looks like the Eagles are still pursuing more QB options. It's interesting how VY is not even on Reid's list. Should we all start hating Andy Reid now?

http://articles.philly.com/2012-03-2...erback-options
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Me replying to a guy that called me a d****bag for posting the above and saying "If Reid is NOT considering VY, the reasonable conclusion is that it is partly VYs choosing. If VY is not considering the Eagles, he probably has better options."

Andy Reid's actions suggest he prefers VY over anyone else they are considering?? The action of not offering another contract? You are truly a moron. You REALLY think VY not going back to the Eagles is his choice? So basically you are implying that VY either turned them down or told them not to bother offering him another contract. So you think VY is choosing to be unemployed at the moment?

Why the heck would VY NOT want to go back to the Eagles?? Vick has proven over and over again that he can't stay on the field. Instead Vince is out there telling everyone he wants to play in Houston where Schaub and Yates would be ahead of him in the depth chart. There is no way in hades the Texas will sign VY for many reasons already mentioned in this thread.

For whatever reason it is obvious to all of us who are not blinded that neither Reid or obviously no one else in the NFL wants to sign this guy right now. Stop with the lame ass excuses, etc, and except reality.

To quote you "Consider the Facts" ... VY in his 6th offseason is UNEMPLOYED with apparently no one lining up to offer him anything. Compare that to the guy you all hated the Texans for drafting over VY who just signed the richest defensive contract ever. Hell even Reggie Bust is on someone's roster right now.

You and borna horn are always asking for facts, there are your facts.
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Me replying to a guy that says VY was a better runner than freaking Earl Campbell ...

Did I just read a post by you saying "VY was a better runner in 2003 than Earl ever was in college."??

I know you are obsessed with VY in an unhealthy way but this tells me you are either a bigger moron than I would have ever imagined or you are around 15 years old.
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Same thread and responding to that moron again after he called me out for "bashing" VY because I don't think he was a better runner than Earl ...

You are just plain delusional to put VY over Earl Campbell as a runner. I realize you are probably of the Justin Boever generation and you never saw Earl, however you need to get a grip.
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Me sarcastically responding to those morons who actually believe that Andy Reid didn't want to resign VY because he didn't want to hold him back because "he should be starting somewhere"....

Exactly, there is no way the Eagles would want to get involved in the current bidding war going on for VY's services. With all of these teams willing to pay him starter money the Eagles need to think about cap space and settle for a lesser guy for less money. Pos rep coming your way .. oh wait.
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Me responding to another moron telling me to F off because my comments on VY are getting "tiresome" ...

Yep, reality can get tiresome at times.
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Responding to a guy who upon finding out Vince was working out for the Bills was going to go online and buy a Bills hat to replace his Titans hat. Actually my reply to him was right after it was made known that the Bills were not going to make a contact offer ...

If you hurry up you still might be able to cancel that order. I know Football Fanatics takes a day or two before shipping.
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Me responding to some moron that said Kubiak would never sign VY because he is an Aggy ...

You really think Kubiak is thinking about college loyalties? If anything Kubiak is a great QB coach and maybe he could do some good things with VY. I was curious what Leinart was going to do after being with Kubiak for 2 seasons besides injure his shoulder. I would much rather have VY than Leinart.
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Responding to a VY fanboy who says I make no sense ...

No, that is not true. The fanboys neg rep anyone that does not paint a perfect rosey picture about VY. My posts and many others making similar observations made a lot sense, you may not agree or want to believe it because of your blind loyalty to one player, however they made sense. Do we believe too much of the media? I don't know, I can only go on what I see and what the bottom line is right now.

The bottom line is I and many others here firmly believe a lot of VY's issues are on himself. Sure, Fisher had personal issues with VY however if VY would have kept his cool and stayed mature through the whole process it would have all came out much better for him. Now he is in a situation where he is going to be looking again to sign with a team as a backup instead of what he should doing, already being a star starter for someone.

Personally I hate Bud Adams and the Titans, and I would be lying if I said I wasn't glad this whole thing blew up in Bud's face. Now that VY is no longer connected to that abortion of a franchise I really hope he pulls it together, matures and flourishes somewhere.
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To someone suggesting that either Texas team should sign VY ..

Either Texas team would be sabotaging their starting QBs by signing Vince. Both Romo and Schaub would be one bad pass away from having a large section of their fanbase clamoring for Vince to start. Personally I am not sold on either Romo or Schaub however I don't blame either team for avoiding that drama. Of course Jerry Jones loves drama so I could see VY in Dallas long before Houston.
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Responding again to be called a VY basher ..

Nope, as a Longhorn I loved VY in college as a QB. However he left in 2005 and I don't have the 13 year old girl/Justin Bieber worship for him (as some here obviously do). Honestly I have nothing personal against Vince. What I do have issues with are morons that ad nauseum keep making excuses for this guy, coming up with hilarious conspiracy theories and are obsessed with him. It makes us normal UT fans look like idiots to outsiders.
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If I missed one and you still think I am "bashing" Vince on SB please quote it for me. I would like to see it.

For the record how often do you see my posting in serious Texans topics also? Not many. I run this site but never have claimed to be a football expert. I do a lot more lurking/reading than posting especially when it comes to serious football topics. I am no Alan Burge, and there are many here that are way above me on those subjects. So I prefer to enjoy reading their commentary rather than posting in those instances.
 
Hookem Horns said:
OMG, don't tell me you are one of those VY (out of touch with reality) jockmunchers on SB. Do you really think SB is a good place to talk about serious UT things? It's too hard to get through all of the profanity, etc to post anything serious over there. I don't (or rarely do) post anything serious on that board. It's just a place where the VY fanboys / Texans basher congregate and I occasionally pop in to mess with them.

However ... please define "bash". I keep asking them to do that over there, to quote me "bashing" Vince and all they reply with is profanity and nothing intelligent. If you don't worship the guy and basically want to be homo with him you are considered a "basher" over there. My issue isn't with VY, it's with all of those VY retards that bashed the Texans for all of those years and still do because they didn't draft their hero. So to double check myself I went back quite a ways and found all of my VY related posts. Let the unbiased here judge if I am "bashing" VY.

Replying in a thread about if VY should stay with the Eagles or sign somewhere else (also making a stab all of those that hate Fisher for not giving him a chance) ..



Me replying to a guy that called me a d****bag for posting the above and saying "If Reid is NOT considering VY, the reasonable conclusion is that it is partly VYs choosing. If VY is not considering the Eagles, he probably has better options."



Me replying to a guy that says VY was a better runner than freaking Earl Campbell ...




Same thread and responding to that moron again after he called me out for "bashing" VY because I don't think he was a better runner than Earl ...



Me sarcastically responding to those morons who actually believe that Andy Reid didn't want to resign VY because he didn't want to hold him back because "he should be starting somewhere"....



Me responding to another moron telling me to F off because my comments on VY are getting "tiresome" ...



Responding to a guy who upon finding out Vince was working out for the Bills was going to go online and buy a Bills hat to replace his Titans hat. Actually my reply to him was right after it was made known that the Bills were not going to make a contact offer ...



Me responding to some moron that said Kubiak would never sign VY because he is an Aggy ...



Responding to a VY fanboy who says I make no sense ...



To someone suggesting that either Texas team should sign VY ..



Responding again to be called a VY basher ..



If I missed one and you still think I am "bashing" Vince on SB please quote it for me. I would like to see it.

For the record how often do you see my posting in serious Texans topics also? Not many. I run this site but never have claimed to be a football expert. I do a lot more lurking/reading than posting especially when it comes to serious football topics. I am no Alan Burge, and there are many here that are way above me on those subjects. So I prefer to enjoy reading their commentary rather than posting in those instances.
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Great post. You backed up exactly what you said. I also repped you because if you haven't already, you may receive a neg rep from one particular sniffer/chewer. If not, your dangerously close. I know I have for a less than glowing view of young Young. :)
 
drs23 said:
I'm thinking exactly NOT. Time will tell.

I'm going to hide-n-watch.
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Agreed! Kubiak likes Keenum and this after Kubiak actually worked with him. The extra guy is an insurance policy to create competition. I don't blame Kubiak at all for bringing in another guy because there is NO gaurantee that Schaub will be ready OR will ever even make it back.
 
I like the idea of this. IF anything it can push Keenum and Yates to get better. Competition brings out the best.
 
Hookem Horns said:
OMG, don't tell me you are one of those VY (out of touch with reality) jockmunchers on SB. Do you really think SB is a good place to talk about serious UT things? It's too hard to get through all of the profanity, etc to post anything serious over there. I don't (or rarely do) post anything serious on that board. It's just a place where the VY fanboys / Texans basher congregate and I occasionally pop in to mess with them.

However ... please define "bash". I keep asking them to do that over there, to quote me "bashing" Vince and all they reply with is profanity and nothing intelligent. If you don't worship the guy and basically want to be homo with him you are considered a "basher" over there. My issue isn't with VY, it's with all of those VY retards that bashed the Texans for all of those years and still do because they didn't draft their hero. So to double check myself I went back quite a ways and found all of my VY related posts. Let the unbiased here judge if I am "bashing" VY.

Replying in a thread about if VY should stay with the Eagles or sign somewhere else (also making a stab all of those that hate Fisher for not giving him a chance) ..



Me replying to a guy that called me a d****bag for posting the above and saying "If Reid is NOT considering VY, the reasonable conclusion is that it is partly VYs choosing. If VY is not considering the Eagles, he probably has better options."



Me replying to a guy that says VY was a better runner than freaking Earl Campbell ...




Same thread and responding to that moron again after he called me out for "bashing" VY because I don't think he was a better runner than Earl ...



Me sarcastically responding to those morons who actually believe that Andy Reid didn't want to resign VY because he didn't want to hold him back because "he should be starting somewhere"....



Me responding to another moron telling me to F off because my comments on VY are getting "tiresome" ...



Responding to a guy who upon finding out Vince was working out for the Bills was going to go online and buy a Bills hat to replace his Titans hat. Actually my reply to him was right after it was made known that the Bills were not going to make a contact offer ...



Me responding to some moron that said Kubiak would never sign VY because he is an Aggy ...



Responding to a VY fanboy who says I make no sense ...



To someone suggesting that either Texas team should sign VY ..



Responding again to be called a VY basher ..



If I missed one and you still think I am "bashing" Vince on SB please quote it for me. I would like to see it.

For the record how often do you see my posting in serious Texans topics also? Not many. I run this site but never have claimed to be a football expert. I do a lot more lurking/reading than posting especially when it comes to serious football topics. I am no Alan Burge, and there are many here that are way above me on those subjects. So I prefer to enjoy reading their commentary rather than posting in those instances.
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I've never said you bashed him, I said VY is the only thing you talk about when you're on SB, whether it's positive or negative. Yes, there are delusional people over there, but that doesn't mean they don't aren't right or ignorant, whatever the case is. And no, I really don't talk **** if you say something bad about VY unless I think it's totally ignorant, and even then I really don't talk **** back, but I will still defend him. I still think he can start on a team and win some games and make it to the playoffs as long as he has talents on his team and the coaches actually use him to for his skills and not try to make him a different quarterback/player. All of this VY issues aren't black and white, and I'm not really surprised most of the Longhorns fans still defend him. As for the poster who said he was a better runner than Earl, is just...dumb. VY was probably more efficient as a runner, but not a better all around runner. I don't think there wasn't anything Earl couldn't do as a running back. And yes, there a lot of people who are still mad we picked Mario over VY. Even I wanted VY back then, and I would still like to see how his career would've been had he went to play for Gary Kubiak, rather than Jeff freakin Fisher. There are a lot of Texans haters over there, but it's calmed down a lot after last season, and there's even a 18 pages(900 replies) thread on the 2012 Texans Offseason Thread. So there are plenty of Texans fans to talk on there, if you wanted to lol.

Sorry for being off topic though.


Back on topic, I don't think Keenum will get cut, if anything he'll be on the Practice squad if he doesn't get picked up on waivers. I'd like to bring back Delhomme if he wants to give it another go, especially since he knows the system better than most of the FA QBs out there. Not sure if he'll come back and officially retired though.
 
SteveSlaton20 said:
it's funny because, that's ALL you do on the longhorns board. you don't talk about the current longhorn football team, basketball, baseball, or anything else. you only bash VY on SB and then come here and say that you're a normal UT fan when you don't talk anything Longhorns over there.
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VY is a joke so bashing him would seem to come naturally for most UT fans since he has done nothing but been an embarrassment since leaving the program. Why would any UT alum or fan come out now and support VY after he has proven to be a moron? He basically had a good year or two in college and has done nothing else in life but self destruct. Why he isnt playing in Canada yet I have no idea. Maybe the Katy Stallions will pick him up.
 
What about Kellen Moore from Boise State, I don' t think he was drafted and probably should have been so he may come cheap!
 
BigWig said:
What about Kellen Moore from Boise State, I don' t think he was drafted and probably should have been so he may come cheap!
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If you want a 4th QB, you typically go after a vet rather than an UDFA.

Texans had a chance at Moore but took Keenum instead. That said, Moore signed with the Lions.
 
I don't think Matt Schaub will be ready by the start of the season, despite him and the staff saying all the right things. I've just seen it too much here to know better.

That said, I get the feeling Yates is going to get all the first team snaps possible to prove he's more than capable of starting out the season, because I think he'll be doing just that. I am thinking they'll likely go after another veteran arm in the mean time to do two things: one, help TJ and Case out with learning the offense and what it takes to be a successful QB. Two, if TJ doesn't look sharp and struggles through TC and preseason, we need someone that is capable of stepping into a starting role.

If I had my choice, I'd love for them to convince Delhomme to put off retirement for another year or go after a guy like Billy Volek.
 
Goldensilence said:
I don't think Matt Schaub will be ready by the start of the season, despite him and the staff saying all the right things. I've just seen it too much here to know better.

That said, I get the feeling Yates is going to get all the first team snaps possible to prove he's more than capable of starting out the season, because I think he'll be doing just that. I am thinking they'll likely go after another veteran arm in the mean time to do two things: one, help TJ and Case out with learning the offense and what it takes to be a successful QB. Two, if TJ doesn't look sharp and struggles through TC and preseason, we need someone that is capable of stepping into a starting role.

If I had my choice, I'd love for them to convince Delhomme to put off retirement for another year or go after a guy like Billy Volek.
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^^^ This. Been saying it for weeks now.
 
ckhouston said:
I think Jake is done. If they sign a veteran I wouldn't be surprised to see them get John Beck.
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If they think there's going to be a problem with Matt, I wouldn't be surprised if they go after Dennis Dixon to create some competition for TJ. If they just want someone who knows the basic system and they don't want to threaten TJ, they'll go after Beck.

At least, that's what I expect.
 
ckhouston said:
VY is a joke so bashing him would seem to come naturally for most UT fans since he has done nothing but been an embarrassment since leaving the program.
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Last I checked he won ROTY his first season, and also helped his team make the playoffs. He might not have been one of the better QB's in the league, but this statement is false.



ckhouston said:
Why would any UT alum or fan come out now and support VY after he has proven to be a moron?
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Probably for the same reason why a lot of UT athletes still get support after a few mistakes. Typically if you did a great job for your school and were a great player the school's fans will always appreciate a guy as they should just as long as the guy isn't getting into multiple problems and committing serious crimes. VY hasn't done anything close to that. Say what you want about his NFL career, but as a college athlete he is easily one of the best players of all time and "arguably" the best college QB of all time. So asking why UT alums or fans would support him still is a very silly question and a rhetorical one at that.

ckhouston said:
He basically had a good year or two in college and has done nothing else in life but self destruct. Why he isnt playing in Canada yet I have no idea. Maybe the Katy Stallions will pick him up.
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More complete BS. Sure he has had some problems on and off the field, but to say he has done nothing but self destruct is just false once again. He still has made a lot of money and is able to do a lot of things in his life if he never plays for another team again and will have a lot of opportunities.
 
And there you go.

They'll go through the OTAs and whatnot with TJ/Beck/Keenum.

When Matt comes back, the competition will probably be between Beck and Keenum for the #3 spot.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
And there you go.

They'll go through the OTAs and whatnot with TJ/Beck/Keenum.

When Matt comes back, the competition will probably be between Beck and Keenum for the #3 spot.
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I'm thinking Kubes wants to hang onto Keenum.

And count me in with the crowd that doesn't expect Schaub back for the start of the season, if ever. God I hope I'm wrong on that.
 
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