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texasam82

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In a nutshell... QB.

Please keep in mind that I am talking about the long term success of the Texans. Schaub is no spring chicken and at least moderately injury prone. I think we have the talent on both sides of the ball to be a dominant team for years to come, but we need to address the future of our QB position. I am honestly a fan of TJ and I think he can develop into a pretty solid starter, but we all know how important it is to have a top 10 QB in today's NFL if you want to be a superbowl contender.

What do you guys think? How much longer can we count on Schaub? Is Yates the answer long term? I am worried this team could turn into Ravens 2.0. Great D, with a solid run game, but no true leader at QB. Making the playoffs is great, but I want to push for the ring.
 
Even though they were outstanding last year, my biggest concern is, can the defense repeat last year? I've seen defense played well one year and play terrible the next. I love Wade Phillip, but he still has to prove that he can do it again. If they can play as well as they did last year, then I really don't have any concern except that Foster or Tate suffering a bad injury or something. Our QBs play will be fine as long as defense does work.
 
SteveSlaton20 said:
Even though they were outstanding last year, my biggest concern is, can the defense repeat last year? I've seen defense played well one year and play terrible the next. I love Wade Phillip, but he still has to prove that he can do it again. If they can play as well as they did last year, then I really don't have any concern except that Foster or Tate suffering a bad injury or something. Our QBs play will be fine as long as defense does work.
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I was viewing this discussion as a "going forward" type of thing. 3 years from now how will our QB play be? Because our D should be even better then than it is now.
 
I think this year will show what direction the team needs to go at QB. If Yates has a solid TC and preseason, it could very well ease Kubiak's mind on the subject and Yates will be the heir apparant to Schaub. A fantastic showing could mean that Schaub is gone after next season, instead of signing him to a big contract.
 
texasam82 said:
I was viewing this discussion as a "going forward" type of thing. 3 years from now how will our QB play be? Because our D should be even better then than it is now.
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tbh, I'm a little nervous that Wade might be tempted to leave for a HC position in the coming years. Watching the Carolina and Indy games last year were brutal :wadepalm:
 
Allstar said:
tbh, I'm a little nervous that Wade might be tempted to leave for a HC position in the coming years. Watching the Carolina and Indy games last year were brutal :wadepalm:
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I was terrified of this exact situation last year! I hope Wade has some loyalty to the organization and realized that he is a much better DC than HC. I also hope we can keep paying him HC money to keep him here.
 
Glad you started thread as I wanted to yesterday on 2013 needs but would only get clobbered again for rushing things. Agree on Schaub but an eventual WR1 needs to be drafted. I don't see a QB option other than Yates so either he is real deal or we will be paying out the nose to hopefully re-sign Matt. If you thought debate on Mario was hot just wait. I can see Reed & Mercilus going forward in 2013 with Barwin going elsewhere but if that happens we will probably select another OLB in first or second rounds.

Even if all our 2012 picks deliver we still need WR/OLB/ILB/TE and maybe a corner. I was hoping we could draft BPA but don't see that happening unless our "need" is BPA.

I also agree Wade could be gone after next season. I was pleasantly surprised he remained.
 
texasam82 said:
I was terrified of this exact situation last year! I hope Wade has some loyalty to the organization and realized that he is a much better DC than HC. I also hope we can keep paying him HC money to keep him here.
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The elite of the elite all have one thing in common, and it's their pride. I could be wrong but I just get the vibe from Wade that he wants another shot at it. He doesn't want to just be remembered as an incredible defensive coordinator.

People will point to Dick LeBeau as an example of someone willing to accept what he is, but LeBeau knew that he was significantly better a coordinator than he was a head coach.

Wade on the other hand has been a pretty solid coach regardless of how media may spin it. He finished with a .607 record in Dallas, .604 in Buffalo and .500 in what was really his first head coach stint in Denver.
 
It's not unusual for QBs to be productive all the way into their 40's. Schaub's age doesn't worry me in the least. He has gotten injured a few times and that does worry me. I expect Schaub to miss a few games early in the season but come back and play lights out at the end.

It will be interesting to watch TJ's development. He's got all the tools to be great in this system.

My biggest concern is Wade Phillips. He wants to be a head coach. I don't know how long we'll be able to keep him around. And I don't really trust this staff to find a successor for him.
 
texasam82 said:
I was viewing this discussion as a "going forward" type of thing. 3 years from now how will our QB play be? Because our D should be even better then than it is now.
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oh ok. if wade is still here in 3 years from now, then it's def QB lol.

I'm not going to lie, I wanted us to get RGIII/New QB in the draft after Schaub went down, but obviously he played too well and went #2 overall. I think Schaub has two good years left in him IMO, and I'd like to get a new QB next year so he can learn the system from Schaub, Yates and Kubiak.

If Yates can prove he can play as well as Schaub, then I wouldn't mind sticking with him, but I'd be down for a 1st round franchise QB.
 
badboy said:
Glad you started thread as I wanted to yesterday on 2013 needs but would only get clobbered again for rushing things. Agree on Schaub but an eventual WR1 needs to be drafted. I don't see a QB option other than Yates so either he is real deal or we will be paying out the nose to hopefully re-sign Matt. If you thought debate on Mario was hot just wait. I can see Reed & Mercilus going forward in 2013 with Barwin going elsewhere but if that happens we will probably select another OLB in first or second rounds.

Even if all our 2012 picks deliver we still need WR/OLB/ILB/TE and maybe a corner. I was hoping we could draft BPA but don't see that happening unless our "need" is BPA.

I also agree Wade could be gone after next season. I was pleasantly surprised he remained.
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Glad to be of service my man. I'm with you though... it's NEVER too early to plan for the future. Whether in regards to the Texans, my 401k, real estate investments, or forcing myself to hit the gym. The time is now and it always will be.
 
I think immediately, the Texans are in decent shape with Schaub, Yates and Delhomme or Keenum. But after this year......

Well, let me put this way. Until you have a Manning, a Tom Brady or an Aaron Rodgers tossing the rock for you the need to improve at QB is a high priority EVERY year. I like Schaubby, I'm a pretty big fan of Yates but I don't believe either one has league-dominating potential.
 
I'm not too concerned in the medium term (2-4 yrs) with Schaub's age, but I am worried about his durability. This is a very key yr for Matt and the Texans. If he suffers another major injury do you pull the plug? His contract is up. Do we want to re-up with a guy that can't stay healthy? If that is the case, we are in immediate panic mode. OTOH, if he doesn't miss a snap (or close to it) and he plays well, I'm thinking you have to try to resign the guy. He isn't great, but he is good in this system and knows it backwards and forwards. If we do resign him, and he's again durable, I don't really worry about finding a starter to mold behind him in the draft until 2015 or maybe even 2016.

With Yates, I don't think he is long term starter material, or at least not good starter material. I thought they protected him to the max last year. He did prove that the mental side isn't too big for him, and I think he can improve, but I didn't see "it" with Yates. I think in general the fanbase over-valued his contribution because he was the QB that led us into the playoffs and won a game - but I think it was mostly despite Yates not because of it. I do like his future as a solid back-up though.

The rest is up in the air and a total crapshoot. We can't tell with Keenum until we see how he performs as a pro, but I don't see future starter with him either - but will reserve final judgement on that until we see him more. I do think he was a wise pickup as a UDFA though, and someone that can be developed.
 
Porky said:
I'm not too concerned in the medium term (2-4 yrs) with Schaub's age, but I am worried about his durability. This is a very key yr for Matt and the Texans. If he suffers another major injury do you pull the plug? His contract is up. Do we want to re-up with a guy that can't stay healthy? If that is the case, we are in immediate panic mode. OTOH, if he doesn't miss a snap (or close to it) and he plays well, I'm thinking you have to try to resign the guy. He isn't great, but he is good in this system and knows it backwards and forwards. If we do resign him, and he's again durable, I don't really worry about finding a starter to mold behind him in the draft until 2015 or maybe even 2016.

With Yates, I don't think he is long term starter material, or at least not good starter material. I thought they protected him to the max last year. He did prove that the mental side isn't too big for him, and I think he can improve, but I didn't see "it" with Yates. I think in general the fanbase over-valued his contribution because he was the QB that led us into the playoffs and won a game - but I think it was mostly despite Yates not because of it. I do like his future as a solid back-up though.

The rest is up in the air and a total crapshoot. We can't tell with Keenum until we see how he performs as a pro, but I don't see future starter with him either - but will reserve final judgement on that until we see him more. I do think he was a wise pickup as a UDFA though, and someone that can be developed.
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If Schaub stays healthy and plays well, I think we'll re-sign him and give Yates a couple more years of grooming or start looking for Schaubs successor.
I'm going to wait til the preseason is over before I rate Yates. If he makes a nice jump this year, I can see long-term success with him. I don't think the Texans max protecting a 5th round rookie, forced to start due to injury, is any kind of indictment of Yates. That just seems like the smart thing to do.
 
The combination of a new RT and a QB that can't take a hit concerns me.

Its a QB-WR driven sport now. RBs and defenses are good, but they both seem well on their way to becoming luxuries rather than requirements for Super Bowls
 
I'm with DocBar on the Yates thing. Like Porky said, the mental side of the game didn't seem too big for him and to me, that's HUGE because that's where most guys flame out. Almost everyone drafted at QB has the physical skills necessary to play QB in the NFL, it's the mental side where they fail.

Last year, Yates didn't get a real offseason to learn the offense. He got some extra snaps at the beginning of training camp because of Leinart being out but after Leinart came back, he was pretty much shut down. But when he came in and ran the 2 minute offense against the Jags, the game didn't look to fast for him. And then he went out and didn't lose two games in a row against playoff caliber teams.

For a 3rd string, 5th round rookie, what he accomplished was a bit amazing and shows potential for growth. Did they modify the gameplan and the playbook to protect him? Yeah. Does that mean that's all he'll ever be? No. What we saw with him that makes me excited was the ability to look long and put the ball where it needed to be and we saw him show escapability in the pocket and more pocket awareness than we've ever seen in a Texans QB. He didn't have full command of the offense and he didn't make all the right reads and adjustments.

We should see big strides forward with him in preseason. If we don't, then we need to start getting nervous.
 
My immediate concern is the QB situation, in that I just don't believe Schaub is coming back on time.

Other than that, I'm concerned about Wade staying, the WR position, and defensive backs.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
It's not unusual for QBs to be productive all the way into their 40's. Schaub's age doesn't worry me in the least. He has gotten injured a few times and that does worry me. I expect Schaub to miss a few games early in the season but come back and play lights out at the end.

It will be interesting to watch TJ's development. He's got all the tools to be great in this system.

My biggest concern is Wade Phillips. He wants to be a head coach. I don't know how long we'll be able to keep him around. And I don't really trust this staff to find a successor for him.
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What are your thoughts on going forward with Matt after his contract ends pre2013 season? I think you are saying TJ will start that year?
 
SOmething I don't think some of you are considering at least not mentioning: "Hi I am Matt Scahub and I just had a good 2012 & I want $15m+ first year and 2 years guaranteed on a five year deal."

QB are a premium. Tannehill going #8? Old guys & dufuses recycled every year. It would take a Wade Phillips type epiphany for Schaub to remain with Houston if he has a good season. I expect more of a Mario Williams type epiphany "You are going to pay me how much? Quick, let me Twitter something negative about Houston as I get on the plane."

I think we all need to watch college QBs this year and hope someone slips.
 
badboy said:
What are your thoughts on going forward with Matt after his contract ends pre2013 season? I think you are saying TJ will start that year?
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There are so many factors feeding into this that it's hard to say at this point.

1) If Matt makes it back and plays lights out, you gotta keep him UNLESS you think TJ has developed into a better QB (which I doubt will happen.)

2) If Matt makes it back and gets injured or doesn't play lights out, you gotta let him walk.

3) If Matt doesn't make it back before the start of the season and TJ develops and starts the 2012 season lights out, it's going to be hard to keep Matt.

4) If Matt doesn't make it back before the start of the season and TJ doesn't develop and looks like a scrub and Matt comes back looking good, it's going to be hard to get rid of Matt.

And then there are all the shades of gray. And what I expect to have happen is a shade of gray of #3.

I expect Matt to miss the first 3-4 games of the season. I expect TJ to come in and look only OK. Not a scrub, but not leading the league in passing, either. I expect Matt to win his job back and play well, but not as good as he played prior to the injury. I expect Matt to have issues with planting and getting enough zip on the ball but I think his knowledge of the system to make him our best option at QB even though TJ has better physical abilities. In short, I expect a QB controversy to start mid-season. Ultimately, I'm afraid our best option is going to be to let him walk at the end of the season but it's going to be a hard decision to make.

I also expect to be 100% wrong but I don't know what I'm messing up. :)
 
The Pencil Neck said:
There are so many factors feeding into this that it's hard to say at this point.

1) If Matt makes it back and plays lights out, you gotta keep him UNLESS you think TJ has developed into a better QB (which I doubt will happen.)

2) If Matt makes it back and gets injured or doesn't play lights out, you gotta let him walk.

3) If Matt doesn't make it back before the start of the season and TJ develops and starts the 2012 season lights out, it's going to be hard to keep Matt.

4) If Matt doesn't make it back before the start of the season and TJ doesn't develop and looks like a scrub and Matt comes back looking good, it's going to be hard to get rid of Matt.

And then there are all the shades of gray. And what I expect to have happen is a shade of gray of #3.

I expect Matt to miss the first 3-4 games of the season. I expect TJ to come in and look only OK. Not a scrub, but not leading the league in passing, either. I expect Matt to win his job back and play well, but not as good as he played prior to the injury. I expect Matt to have issues with planting and getting enough zip on the ball but I think his knowledge of the system to make him our best option at QB even though TJ has better physical abilities. In short, I expect a QB controversy to start mid-season. Ultimately, I'm afraid our best option is going to be to let him walk at the end of the season but it's going to be a hard decision to make.

I also expect to be 100% wrong but I don't know what I'm messing up. :)
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Good post. Way to explain your thoughts. Enjoyed the read.
 
If Johnathan Joseph goes down with an injury, we will have:

Kareem Jackson
Brandon Harris
Brice McCain

Behind Schaub going down, I think Joseph is the biggest player we can least afford to lose.
 
texasam82 said:
In a nutshell... QB.

Please keep in mind that I am talking about the long term success of the Texans. Schaub is no spring chicken and at least moderately injury prone. I think we have the talent on both sides of the ball to be a dominant team for years to come, but we need to address the future of our QB position. I am honestly a fan of TJ and I think he can develop into a pretty solid starter, but we all know how important it is to have a top 10 QB in today's NFL if you want to be a superbowl contender.

What do you guys think? How much longer can we count on Schaub? Is Yates the answer long term? I am worried this team could turn into Ravens 2.0. Great D, with a solid run game, but no true leader at QB. Making the playoffs is great, but I want to push for the ring.
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Schaub is what? 30? 31 when he gets his next contract? I think he is good for another 4-5 years which will be enough to get our money's worth of the next contract. Also, this is a QB driven league. So if you dont think Schaub is worth the money you better have a better alternative lined up. And right now we dont.
 
Blake said:
Schaub is what? 30? 31 when he gets his next contract? I think he is good for another 4-5 years which will be enough to get our money's worth of the next contract. Also, this is a QB driven league. So if you dont think Schaub is worth the money you better have a better alternative lined up. And right now we dont.
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He will ask for franchise QB money. I like Matt, but he is not a franchise QB.

His age can be a factor. If he stayed healthy it wouldn't be, but his body couldn't take a beating when he was 26, let alone when he gets into his 30s.

I could see the Texans taking a run at Hoyer or Mallett on the Patriots if Schaub doesn't come back next season
 
Lady.Gaga.3000 said:
If Johnathan Joseph goes down with an injury, we will have:

Kareem Jackson
Brandon Harris
Brice McCain

Behind Schaub going down, I think Joseph is the biggest player we can least afford to lose.
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Gonna disagree as Wade can scheme for that. It would hurt but not as much as losing Rashab Butler RT, If Duane goes down, Butler could move to LT. We have only Brooks to replace Butler and that could be disastrous first season. We would prob have to move a big TE permanently to Brooks right hip.
 
badboy said:
[/B]Gonna disagree as Wade can scheme for that. It would hurt but not as much as losing Rashab Butler RT, If Duane goes down, Butler could move to LT. We have only Brooks to replace Butler and that could be disastrous first season. We would prob have to move a big TE permanently to Brooks right hip.
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We'd probably end up having to call a guy like Salaam :gun:
 
badboy said:
[/B]Gonna disagree as Wade can scheme for that. It would hurt but not as much as losing Rashab Butler RT, If Duane goes down, Butler could move to LT. We have only Brooks to replace Butler and that could be disastrous first season. We would prob have to move a big TE permanently to Brooks right hip.
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Derek Newton backs up Butler; he'll take over if Butler goes down. Brooks will be one of the starting guards.
 
I truly do not understand the TJ love. He was a caretaker QB for a team which could accommodate a caretaker at QB. Yeah, yeah, Schaub isn't a franchise QB but there is a decent chance the team is playing in the Super Bowl with him at the helm last season.
 
infantrycak said:
I truly do not understand the TJ love. He was a caretaker QB for a team which could accommodate a caretaker at QB. Yeah, yeah, Schaub isn't a franchise QB but there is a decent chance the team is playing in the Super Bowl with him at the helm last season.
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A lot of rookies come in and look really bad. Most of them can't even caretake a team. TJ showed flashes of being able to be something very good, as good as Schaub and maybe better... eventually. Right now, Schaub is infinitely better than TJ and, yes, I think if Schaub had been healthy, we would have:

1. steamrolled the rest of the season
2. had home field advantage through the playoffs
3. won the Super Bowl.

But we didn't.

With a full training camp beneath his belt, I think TJ will be much better than he was last year. I think he has the ability and the potential to be an elite QB in this league... but only in 3-4 years. Not now.

So I want TJ to get a taste of being the starter. I want him to get that experience and I want him to grow and mature because of it. And then I want him back on the bench watching Matt lead us to the SB to see how it's done. I think TJ can learn a lot from that.

And then, in the future, we will have to face the question of letting Matt go because TJ is as good as he is or whether to trade TJ away for something because he's good and got a reputation around the league and becomes the hot backup with potential to be a starter... like Schaub was.
 
I am not slagging TJ and certainly hope he gets better. It is just the enthusiasm seems a little overkill. There were plays last year people look at and say wow TJ was so athletic, Schaub couldn't have made that play but the more realistic view is the Schaub would have moved up better in the pocket or the ball already would have left Schaub's hand and he wouldn't have had to run out of the pocket. I certainly hope TJ develops but what I saw last year was not a starter by choice.
 
texasam82 said:
In a nutshell... QB.

Please keep in mind that I am talking about the long term success of the Texans. Schaub is no spring chicken and at least moderately injury prone. I think we have the talent on both sides of the ball to be a dominant team for years to come, but we need to address the future of our QB position. I am honestly a fan of TJ and I think he can develop into a pretty solid starter, but we all know how important it is to have a top 10 QB in today's NFL if you want to be a superbowl contender.

What do you guys think? How much longer can we count on Schaub? Is Yates the answer long term? I am worried this team could turn into Ravens 2.0. Great D, with a solid run game, but no true leader at QB. Making the playoffs is great, but I want to push for the ring.
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I agree! I'm also worried if Schaub will ever recover to play at a high level after the surgery! Frankly, I dont trust Smitiak about any players condition after an injury, just too many "aw shuck moments about the kids"! I'm kinda worried about TJ ever becoming a starter for the Texans! He just doesn't have that "zip" on the ball to get between the defenders quickly! Also, I think a replacement for Joel Dreesen was not addressed. Did they really find a replacement for the Caveman, & I hope Wade P. will stay a long time as DC. However, I really like the draft picks, & Case K as a UDFA. I hope he finds a way on the team as a back up or eventual starter!
 
As I have stated before I do not think Matt Schaub will ever take another regular season snap as a Texan. Yates will have to be very impressive this year to solidify himself as the future QB for the team. If he doesnt have a great year, we need to start looking to draft our franchise guy or maybe trade for someone.

Cousins will know the system after next year. If RG3 performs well, Cousins will be trade bait most likely.
 
infantrycak said:
I am not slagging TJ and certainly hope he gets better. It is just the enthusiasm seems a little overkill. There were plays last year people look at and say wow TJ was so athletic, Schaub couldn't have made that play but the more realistic view is the Schaub would have moved up better in the pocket or the ball already would have left Schaub's hand and he wouldn't have had to run out of the pocket.
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I don't think anyone is saying Yates is as good as Schaub. I think what people have seen with Yates is that he has the potential to be a good starting QB...Whether that is a level below, about the same or better than Schaub is something that is debatable....

But no one can say Yates is already as good as Schaub.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
With a full training camp beneath his belt, I think TJ will be much better than he was last year. I think he has the ability and the potential to be an elite QB in this league... but only in 3-4 years. Not now.
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3 to 4 years? If it takes him that long, we might as well go with Case Keenum. Schaub won't be on the team in 3 to 4 years anyway. The biggest question mark on the Texans right now is the QB position and Schaub's health. Without knowing the answers to any of that, it's very hard to predict anything from the Texans. I would say though, that even if Schaub never comes back TJ is still good enough to win the division with and make another playoff run. The SB is another question though.
 
Thorn said:
3 to 4 years? If it takes him that long, we might as well go with Case Keenum. Schaub won't be on the team in 3 to 4 years anyway. The biggest question mark on the Texans right now is the QB position and Schaub's health. Without knowing the answers to any of that, it's very hard to predict anything from the Texans. I would say though, that even if Schaub never comes back TJ is still good enough to win the division with and make another playoff run. The SB is another question though.
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I think it takes any QB that long to mature. It took Matt a few years to mature and it will take Case a few years to mature as well. Even if we go out and draft a highly touted QB in the draft, it's going to take him a few years before he's elite.

Most QBs don't even make it to that status. Many flame out.

With a good enough team, you don't need an elite QB to win SBs.
 
Blake said:
the game has changed. You need a solid QB to win super bowls.
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That's what I Was going to say, but I thought about it and history doesn't change until someone actually changes it. Trends are set until someone actually sets them.

Basically, the top QB's are the ones winning superbowls right now because it's such a pass heavy league but if a team like the Texans won the superbowl it'd likely be largely attributed to our defense and running game...

I just think you need a good mix of talent. You need to be elite in a few places and very good most everywhere else.

I think the easiest way to win a superbowl though is by having an elite QB though...
 
In no way do I consider Ely Manning elite even though he's won two SBs recently. He's very good, but he isn't elite. And his brother, who is one of the best QBs of all time only has one ring. You can win SBs without an elite QB, you just better bring your A game in other areas.
 
Thorn said:
In no way do I consider Ely Manning elite even though he's won two SBs recently. He's very good, but he isn't elite. And his brother, who is one of the best QBs of all time only has one ring. You can win SBs without an elite QB, you just better bring your A game in other areas.
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Who is using the word elite?
 
If Kubiak doesn't make a commitment to starting a QB and sticking with him for a decent amount of time (which is why I advocate PUP'ing Schaub) then we'll be screwed. An offense cannot be dragged into even a mild QB controversy.

PUP'ing Schaub allows TJ to be the undisputed leader for a huge portion of the season. It stops ANY controversy from brewing early in the season, since Schaub will be prohibited from playing until mid-season. And if TJ is not playing well...the fans will be ready for a change back to Schaub and it gives Kubiak the "out" he needs, as well.

Allowing Schaub to be in full gear on the sideline to start the season, or even week 3 or 4, is inviting an implosion on that offense. Because if things get sketchy for TJ, the hook will be readied and then everyone starts doubting TJ (even TJ doubting himself) and it's just bad psychology all the way around.

Normalcy is the bread and butter of Kubiak's coaching style. I would think he wants Schaub as an emergency option if TJ fails and we need a miracle to finish up the last half of the season. Kubiak likes his QBs to be in full control and not looking over their shoulder. Having Schaub on the sideline is no recipe for normalcy at the QB position.

I think people are generally freaked out about the Texans starting a season with a QB whose last name is not Schaub. We have Foster, we have TEs who know how to bail out their QB. We have a great Kubiak/Dennison combo going on. Things will be fine.
 
ckhouston said:
The Texans QB needs to be able to do two things very well to win a SB.

1. Turn around and hand ball to Foster.
2. Turn around and hand ball to Tate.
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Wrong!! Our Oline is F'd up, thanks to bonehead off season moves! No way Foster or Tate will be that good all by themselves! We better get our new WRs up and running before Sept, or we won't see the playoffs! JMO!
 
SheTexan said:
Wrong!! Our Oline is F'd up, thanks to bonehead off season moves! No way Foster or Tate will be that good all by themselves! We better get our new WRs up and running before Sept, or we won't see the playoffs! JMO!
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I think Butler will do just fine in Winston's place. My biggest concern prior to the draft was losing Brisel. But finding out that Caldwell had been playing through injured ankles last year and after drafting Brooks and Jones, I think we'll be fine at the Guard spot.

So I don't think our oline is f'd up.

I think we'll be fine and possibly even better than we were.
 
SheTexan said:
Wrong!! Our Oline is F'd up, thanks to bonehead off season moves! No way Foster or Tate will be that good all by themselves! We better get our new WRs up and running before Sept, or we won't see the playoffs! JMO!
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13-3. Miss me with all this negative talk. Boneheaded how? Because we let Ryans go? Dude had to go. Briesel wanted far too much paper. Winston wasn't about to take no paycuts. Y'all got to lay off that dope, man. Damn man, the salary cap is at play here. We're trying to be the Steelers, Giants and Patriots. To HELL with loyalty. This is a GROWN FOLKS BUSINESS. That's the only reason folks were mad. Because we didn't keep mainstays. Let it go.

My BIGGEST concern though? I'll say starting 5-0 and having Texans Talk make threads about how Kubiak is holding us back because we won that 5th game 21-17.
 
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