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What's your rankings of WRs in this draft class?

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76Texan

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Do you have a list, from one to ten (or one to five, whatever) of the receivers in this draft class?

I'm thinking we may give points to all the names on all the lists (top choice gets ten points, second choice gets nine points, and so on.)

We can then tally (and update the scores) and come up with a final ranking maybe a week before the draft.

Since I'm only just starting, I'd like to ask everybody else who has a list to put it up.

Thanks!
 
76Texan said:
Do you have a list, from one to ten (or one to five, whatever) of the receivers in this draft class?

I'm thinking we may give points to all the names on all the lists (top choice gets ten points, second choice gets nine points, and so on.)

We can then tally (and update the scores) and come up with a final ranking maybe a week before the draft.

Since I'm only just starting, I'd like to ask everybody else who has a list to put it up.

Thanks!
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Might be easier if you post it as poll question, that way it automatically tabulates itself.
 
1. Blackmon
2. Jeffrey
3.K.Wright
4.Floyd
5.Jordan White
6.Sanu
7. Joe Adams PR/KR skills included
8.Criner
9. J. Wright
10.T.Y. Hilton Pr/KR skills included

Honorable mention Toon,Randle,D.Jones,Streeter, Jenkins, Eric Page, Stephen Hill.

Hill is a former Ga. state sprint champ, who is 6'4 205 is a great blocker but has questionable hands. RD3-5 would be a steal. IMHO
 
steelbtexan said:
1. Blackmon
2. Jeffrey
3.K.Wright
4.Floyd
5.Jordan White
6.Sanu
7. Joe Adams PR/KR skills included
8.Criner
9. J. Wright
10.T.Y. Hilton Pr/KR skills included

Honorable mention Toon,Randle,D.Jones,Streeter, Jenkins, Eric Page, Stephen Hill.

Hill is a former Ga. state sprint champ, who is 6'4 205 is a great blocker but has questionable hands. RD3-5 would be a steal. IMHO
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Heh. As a Georgia Tech fan I'd say that's quite the understatement.

Hill makes Jacoby look like Larry Fitzgerald.
 
  1. Justin Blackmon- Top 5 selection, blue chip talent
  2. Michael Floyd- Ability to start immediately & produce
  3. Alshon Jeffery- Big, tall red-zone target who wins jump balls
  4. Kendall Wright- Pro ready, faster & stronger than expected
  5. Mohamed Sanu- He is more your slot, possession receiver with RB skills
  6. Juron Criner- Big Body, strong hands who will be productive early on
  7. Marvin Jones- After Blackmon could be playmaker of group
  8. Nick Toon- long, lean & fast can stretch the field, good genes
  9. Ryan Broyles- All around competitive coming off acl surgery
  10. Brian Quick- Another exciting big body, developmental, worth the wait
 
1) Blackmon
2) Wright
2) Floyd
3) Jeffery


Those are my top 4 and I want one of them. I have Wright and Floyd being about the same with Jeffery right behind.
 
Anybody check out Joe Adams, Arkansas WR, in Saturdays Senior Bowl ?
OK he's small, but is he ever fast and he's got good hands plus he's an excellent punt-returner. Kinda reminds me of Desean Jackson, Phillys receiver.
 
beerlover said:
  1. Justin Blackmon- Top 5 selection, blue chip talent
  2. Michael Floyd- Ability to start immediately & produce
  3. Alshon Jeffery- Big, tall red-zone target who wins jump balls
  4. Kendall Wright- Pro ready, faster & stronger than expected
  5. Mohamed Sanu- He is more your slot, possession receiver with RB skills
  6. Juron Criner- Big Body, strong hands who will be productive early on
  7. Marvin Jones- After Blackmon could be playmaker of group
  8. Nick Toon- long, lean & fast can stretch the field, good genes
  9. Ryan Broyles- All around competitive coming off acl surgery
  10. Brian Quick- Another exciting big body, developmental, worth the wait
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Identical to my list in terms of talent and ability ..... Only real question on this group pre-combine is Floyd who may or may not drop due to off field issues and Broyles injury concerns - Should he perform at the combine he could move back up - whats the timetable on his recovery ?!
 
BL,
Your list is a very good list. I'm interested to know what other draftniks top 5-10 look like.

Your list consists of young Hines Ward and Greg Jennings type WR's.

My List has Jennings/Antonio Brown type WR's. I think one way to quickly improve the ST's is to draft a TY Hilton/Joe Adams/Demps type slot WR that can play outside somme too.

Hopefully Floyd or Jeffrey are there late in the 1st. In the 3rd 4th rd taking a White/Hilton/Adams would be playing with house money. It would take the biggest weakness and turn it into a possible strength.

I'm going to put out a Texans post combine mock soon. Check it out and tell me what you think.
 
steelbtexan said:
BL,
Your list is a very good list. I'm interested to know what other draftniks top 5-10 look like.

Your list consists of young Hines Ward and Greg Jennings type WR's.

My List has Jennings/Antonio Brown type WR's. I think one way to quickly improve the ST's is to draft a TY Hilton/Joe Adams/Demps type slot WR that can play outside somme too.

Hopefully Floyd or Jeffrey are there late in the 1st. In the 3rd 4th rd taking a White/Hilton/Adams would be playing with house money. It would take the biggest weakness and turn it into a possible strength.

I'm going to put out a Texans post combine mock soon. Check it out and tell me what you think.
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Thats what Im hoping for as well .... Either of those guys would be a major upgrade at the #2 WR spot.

The only question I have is would the Texans front office take Floyd with his off field issues .... we have a WR On the roster with a history of DUI tho I think that guy (J.Jones) is gone as a cap casualty , especially if the team can find a serious upgrade in the draft.
 
76Texan said:
Which NFL teams might look for a receiver early, anybody knows?
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St.Louis @ 2 may
Cleveland @ 4 or 22
I could see Jax taking one at 7 depending upon how they rate them and who's available.
Philly might @ 15 depending on the status of DeSean Jackson in FA.

Other than that I dont see a team with a real dire need at WR and I doubt all of those teams take one .... Then again maybe a team not listed thinks they find value at the position and un-expectedly takes one.


I would be real tempted to trade up for one of the top 3 - Justin Blackmon,
Michael Floyd or Alshon Jeffery in the mid teens should they still be on the board.
 
Jets, Jags, Bears, Cinci, Cleveland, Rams, (Tradeback and lose Kalil, take Blackmon), Redskins, Patriots (good value at end of the round), and later (like second round) Panthers, Redskins, Cardinals, Steelers, Broncos.

Basically alot of teams will be looking to add a WR this draft with so many quality ones. I really hope the Texans don't wait to long to get one (or two) that fit
 
Corrosion said:
St.Louis @ 2 may
Cleveland @ 4 or 22
I could see Jax taking one at 7 depending upon how they rate them and who's available.
Philly might @ 15 depending on the status of DeSean Jackson in FA.

Other than that I dont see a team with a real dire need at WR and I doubt all of those teams take one .... Then again maybe a team not listed thinks they find value at the position and un-expectedly takes one.


I would be real tempted to trade up for one of the top 3 - Justin Blackmon,
Michael Floyd or Alshon Jeffery in the mid teens should they still be on the board.
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Would any of those teams have interest in DeSean Jackson; any rumors or semi-serious possibility?
 
Brandon420tx said:
Jets, Jags, Bears, Cinci, Cleveland, Rams, (Tradeback and lose Kalil, take Blackmon), Redskins, Patriots (good value at end of the round), and later (like second round) Panthers, Redskins, Cardinals, Steelers, Broncos.

Basically alot of teams will be looking to add a WR this draft with so many quality ones. I really hope the Texans don't wait to long to get one (or two) that fit
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Similar to DeSean Jackson, what kind of receivers do those teams lose that requires replacement/upgrade?

Any of those FAs have a certain "rapport" with another team through coaches or players that may lead them to move to another team with need?

Is receiver their primary need (the teams that you listed) in the first round?
 
76Texan said:
Which NFL teams might look for a receiver early, anybody knows?
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Lots... but it also depends on who goes where in free agency. All these teams could fill a #1 or #2 WR role:

Rams - Likely losing Lloyd in FA
Vikings
Browns
Bucs
Redskins
Jags
Panthers - Steve Smith is gettin old
Chiefs - if they lose Bowe
Bills - if they lose Stevie Johnson
Jets - if they lose plax
Eagles if they lose Djax
Chargers - if they lose Vjax
Bears
Broncos - maybe
Texans
 
76Texan said:
Would any of those teams have interest in DeSean Jackson; any rumors or semi-serious possibility?
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I have no idea what teams have interest in him .... I dont see him as a fit for the Texans because of the cost and their cap space. I think he's going to want a payday more significant than the Texans could offer .... Unless MW is playing in another uniform next season - Then all bets are off.

If one of those teams were to pick him up in FA , you could likely strike them from the list of teams taking a first round WR .... again there is the possibility a teams see's value in a certain prospect and takes them.
 
When does FA start? And how long and what is the process?
A link would be fine.
I'm a little tired and it would help not having to dig for something I know many of you draftniks and FA buffs already know.
 
Corrosion said:
I have no idea what teams have interest in him .... I dont see him as a fit for the Texans because of the cost and their cap space. I think he's going to want a payday more significant than the Texans could offer .... Unless MW is playing in another uniform next season - Then all bets are off.

If one of those teams were to pick him up in FA , you could likely strike them from the list of teams taking a first round WR .... again there is the possibility a teams see's value in a certain prospect and takes them.
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Jax probably have cap space, does it make sense that they would go after a FA WR?
 
Dutchrudder said:
Lots... but it also depends on who goes where in free agency. All these teams could fill a #1 or #2 WR role:

Rams - Likely losing Lloyd in FA
Vikings
Browns
Bucs
Redskins
Jags
Panthers - Steve Smith is gettin old
Chiefs - if they lose Bowe
Bills - if they lose Stevie Johnson
Jets - if they lose plax
Eagles if they lose Djax
Chargers - if they lose Vjax
Bears
Broncos - maybe
Texans
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What are the chance that some of these guys trading places or get signed by a team on this list.

Steve Smith didn't look old at all to me when I watched him play (in about 10 games). Heck, I would love for the Texans to sign him.
 
76Texan said:
When does FA start? And how long and what is the process?
A link would be fine.
I'm a little tired and it would help not having to dig for something I know many of you draftniks and FA buffs already know.
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Key Dates -

Feb. 20 - Teams can begin applying franchise and transition tags to players

March 5 - Deadline for teams to apply franchise and transition tags

March 13 - Free agency begins at 4 p.m.




76Texan said:
Jax probably have cap space, does it make sense that they would go after a FA WR?
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Thats a good question. There are some pretty good recievers in this FA class ... List Here.

Several teams are at risk of losing good talent at the position. Any of those teams who lose in FA will likely look to fill those voids early in the draft.

Indy (round2 at the earliest)- Reggie Wayne.
NE - I think they resign Welker.
San Diego - Vincent Jackson. Not real sure what they do as Jackson is a headcase.
Philly - DeSean Jackson
KC - Dwayne Bowe
New Orleans - Marques Colston & Robert Meachem
Buffalo - Steve Johnson
St.Louis - Brandon Lloyd
NY Giants - Mario Manningham
Pittsburgh - Mike Wallace (RFA)
 
76Texan said:
What are the chance that some of these guys trading places or get signed by a team on this list.
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A good chance of course. Depends on cap issues and such for the teams though. I didn't mention the Saints because they don't pick until the end of the 2nd, but if Colston leaves, they could pick up another WR looking to earn a ring. It's a fluid situation of course :)

Steve Smith didn't look old at all to me when I watched him play (in about 10 games). Heck, I would love for the Texans to sign him.
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I don't mean to knock Smith, but he is simply getting old and there is no heir to their #1 WR spot. Same deal as the Texans, AJ is getting old and we have no one to replace him. However, the Texans don't have nearly as many needs across the board, so it's not a given that the Panthers will take a WR in the first two rounds (they don't have a 3rd pick). If I were them, I would go with defense in the 1st and 2nd because their offense did put up a lot of points last year.
 
Alright brethren here is my WR Rankings for the upcoming NFL Draft!!!

1. Justin Blackmon Oklahoma St. 6-1 215 4.55
2. Michael Floyd Notre Dame 6-3 225 4.55
3. Kendall Wright - Baylor 5'11 190 4.35
4. Alshon Jeffery South Carolina 6-4 229 4.60
5. Reuben Randle L.S.U. 6-4 208 4.45
6. Dwight Jones UNC 6'4 220 4.50
7. Joe Adams Arkansas 6'0" 190 4.39
8. Gerrell Robinson Arizona St. 6'3" 215 4.50
9. Tommy Streeter Miami 6'5" 215 4.45
10. Patrick Edwards U of H 5'9' 175 4.35
 
76Texan said:
Appreciate all the infos and inputs.

I guess we'll just have to wait for FA to happen then.
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Yeah , a lot depends on FA .... and when it comes to the Texans , everything revolves around how they handle MW.


Brandon420tx said:
I expect a large number of these teams to take a WR before our second pick. At least the wide receivers we've been wanting
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I expect the same from most of those teams with one of their top two picks at this point. But until we get thru FA , its pretty much impossible to figure out what many will do in the draft.
 
PHAROAH said:
Alright brethren here is my WR Rankings for the upcoming NFL Draft!!!

1. Justin Blackmon Oklahoma St. 6-1 215 4.55
2. Michael Floyd Notre Dame 6-3 225 4.55
3. Kendall Wright - Baylor 5'11 190 4.35
4. Alshon Jeffery South Carolina 6-4 229 4.60
5. Reuben Randle L.S.U. 6-4 208 4.45
6. Dwight Jones UNC 6'4 220 4.50
7. Joe Adams Arkansas 6'0" 190 4.39
8. Gerrell Robinson Arizona St. 6'3" 215 4.50
9. Tommy Streeter Miami 6'5" 215 4.45
10. Patrick Edwards U of H 5'9' 175 4.35
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I'm a big believer in Touchdown Tommy if we can snag him in the 3rd round. Highly coachable, just starting to really use the most of his techniques, and has sick game speed on the vertical route that doesn't necessarily show up in the 40, would be a great deep threat.
 
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steelbtexan said:
BL,
Your list is a very good list. I'm interested to know what other draftniks top 5-10 look like.

Your list consists of young Hines Ward and Greg Jennings type WR's.

My List has Jennings/Antonio Brown type WR's. I think one way to quickly improve the ST's is to draft a TY Hilton/Joe Adams/Demps type slot WR that can play outside somme too.

Hopefully Floyd or Jeffrey are there late in the 1st. In the 3rd 4th rd taking a White/Hilton/Adams would be playing with house money. It would take the biggest weakness and turn it into a possible strength.

I'm going to put out a Texans post combine mock soon. Check it out and tell me what you think.
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When breaking down WR prospects one thing I look for that I don't see posted enough as an area of strength in a players game is his ability to form a trusted bond with his QB. Chemistry is really, really important especially moving on into the NFL, is how well you work with others, adapt to a system & can be counted on in crunch time. I would throw a lot of measureables away if a specific player has a deficit in this area. Just something to think about SB when evaluating talent that might help you, not that you really need any :)
 
NastyNate said:
I'm a big believer in Touchdown Tommy if we can snag him in the 3rd round. Highly coachable, just starting to really use the most of his techniques, and has sick game speed on the vertical route that doesn't necessarily show up in the 40, would be a great deep threat.
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The only video I saw of him he showed himself to be a body catcher. Personally after Jacoby Jones I couldn't bring myself to take another highly athletic, potential-filled body catcher.
 
TimeKiller said:
The only video I saw of him he showed himself to be a body catcher. Personally after Jacoby Jones I couldn't bring myself to take another highly athletic, potential-filled body catcher.
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He will actually go up and get the ball/use his length on a lot of catches, he started displaying this later in the season with more field time. he's really only been a starter one year and the progression has been very measureable. The upside is there, he has a ton of raw talent and the measureables/physical abilities that Rick Smith has been known to look at.

17.6 YPC and 8 TD's in the first true season he played. Those are damn near identical numbers to what Marques Colston did in his senior year.
 
1) Justin Blackmon
2) Michael Floyd
3) Alshon Jeffery
4) Kendall Wright
5) Ryan Broyles
6) Nick Toon
7) Mohamed Sanu
8) Dwight Jones
9) Marvin McNutt
10) Jordan White

5 small school receivers to watch come draft day-

1) Brian Quick, Appalachian State
2) Thomas Mayo, California (PA)
3) Tim Bedford, Tennessee State
4) Brandon Bostick, Newberry
5) Dale Moss, South Dakota State
 
beerlover said:
When breaking down WR prospects one thing I look for that I don't see posted enough as an area of strength in a players game is his ability to form a trusted bond with his QB. Chemistry is really, really important especially moving on into the NFL, is how well you work with others, adapt to a system & can be counted on in crunch time. I would throw a lot of measureables away if a specific player has a deficit in this area. Just something to think about SB when evaluating talent that might help you, not that you really need any :)
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Agreed & why I would not be shocked to see Cleveland choose RG3 and then Wright.
 
I love Kendall Wright and I hope the he falls to us he is a game changer supreme and if he is gone then Dwight Jones or Rueben Randall would be my next targets.
 
I haven't been able to watch Baylor much this year (and whatever I saw from the year before I don't seem to recall much), but it seems like Wright lines up in the slot quite a bit. And when he lines up wide, I haven't noticed him running a deep route. But then again, I have only watch a game and a half.

(I did watch more than that, but wasn't concentrating on Wright.)

Can you guys tell me a little more about him?
 
Also, if we're to find somebody to replace AJ in about 4, 5 years what kind of strategy do you think we need to put in place since we probably won't be drafting high in the pecking order.
 
76Texan said:
Also, if we're to find somebody to replace AJ in about 4, 5 years what kind of strategy do you think we need to put in place since we probably won't be drafting high in the pecking order.
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I like the "Get to the Super Bowl and lure an awesome free agent" strategy. :fingergun:
 
76Texan said:
I haven't been able to watch Baylor much this year (and whatever I saw from the year before I don't seem to recall much), but it seems like Wright lines up in the slot quite a bit. And when he lines up wide, I haven't noticed him running a deep route. But then again, I have only watch a game and a half.

(I did watch more than that, but wasn't concentrating on Wright.)

Can you guys tell me a little more about him?
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He is a perfect slot but can be a flanker with his speed. I find him enticing not because he has a litany of deep receptions but how he manages to come down with the ball against larger DBs. He is a very strong player & is difficult to jam at line due to his initial burst & DBs are leery of missing and getting beat. Only two WRs I have rated over Wright are Blackmon and Floyd. Just saw that Mayock has same rating. Jordan White is similar imo although not as fluid or athletic. If we get both those guys as I hope, we will not be drafting WR highly for a while.
 
76Texan said:
Also, if we're to find somebody to replace AJ in about 4, 5 years what kind of strategy do you think we need to put in place since we probably won't be drafting high in the pecking order.
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Like Dutchrudder says I fantasize about using money saves from Mario to sign Bowe who appears to be a perfect replacement for AJ.
 
badboy said:
Like Dutchrudder says I fantasize about using money saves from Mario to sign Bowe who appears to be a perfect replacement for AJ.
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Bowe would be awesome, but I think he's gonna get franchise tagged. The Chefs don't have anyone else important going into free agency, and Bowe is definitely worth tagging. Even if they can't sign him to a deal, 1 year at 8 or 9 mill is worth it.
 
badboy said:
Like Dutchrudder says I fantasize about using money saves from Mario to sign Bowe who appears to be a perfect replacement for AJ.
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How about signing Mario to a long-term real, drafting a #2 WR of the future, an OLB to groom and win the SB with a #1 defense and a top 5-10 offense.

Trade one of the top 3 OLBs for top pick(s) and save money.
Sign a big FA WE in 2013 or trade 2 first rounders for one single higher pick to draft the best WR prospect in 2013?
 
76Texan said:
Also, if we're to find somebody to replace AJ in about 4, 5 years what kind of strategy do you think we need to put in place since we probably won't be drafting high in the pecking order.
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First off they will never replace Andre Johnson, he is one of a kind.

Here are a couple different routes they could try:

Trade out of first round for future #1 + picks -
New England likes to trade out of 1st in exchange for a lesser teams future 1st which can turn into a top 10 pick where the blue chip WR's reside.

Trade up using own future picks -
This was Falcon strategy to aquire Julio Jones, but to do this required trading away this years first plus other picks as well swapping #1's last year where there was a huge gap between teams. Don't think Rick would opt for this plan as he likes to build team with more picks not less, still there may come a time when the right player makes sense.

Use multiple selections in successive years, as needed -
Could be any combination, 1 & 2 or 2 & 5 then evaluate end of season, balance with possible free agents then revisit need, however the draft falls in relationship with draft grade. This is most probable strategy, but really doubt they can find facsimile of AJ unless very good/lucky in player evaluation.

Andre was a beast in Miami, closest thing in College I've ever seen is Calvin Johnson along with Fitzgerald. A case can be made to throw Blackmon in that elite company as well, dude is a complete WR & stands out from his peers. A discussion I had earlier in week with Obi concerning Rams pick. LT vs WR. In this case IMO the higher grade goes to WR, both are needs so opt for higher grade or BPA.
 
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76Texan said:
I haven't been able to watch Baylor much this year (and whatever I saw from the year before I don't seem to recall much), but it seems like Wright lines up in the slot quite a bit. And when he lines up wide, I haven't noticed him running a deep route. But then again, I have only watch a game and a half.

(I did watch more than that, but wasn't concentrating on Wright.)

Can you guys tell me a little more about him?
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I think it was against OK that Wright made a circus catch along the sidelines in the endzone lining up wide .... He's got speed , hands and very good route running. If he were a bit bigger , I'd have him rated higher , possibly the best combination of hands and seperation of all the prospects in this draft.

If I were looking for a slot guy - Wright would be my target without question .... But the Texans dont have trouble moving the ball between the 20's where a guy like Wright can help , their troubles are in the redzone. I want a guy who can cause problems in the there , a big target who creates a mismatch with smaller DB's on fades and crossing routes. A guy that you can throw it up and he'll go take it.
For my money , the reciever in this draft that most describes is Alshon Jeffery , second would be Michael Floyd.
 
beerlover said:
First off they will never replace Andre Johnson, he is one of a kind.

Here are a couple different routes they could try:

Trade out of first round for future #1 + picks -
New England likes to trade out of 1st in exchange for a lesser teams future 1st which can turn into a top 10 pick where the blue chip WR's reside.

Trade up using own future picks -
This was Falcon strategy to aquire Julio Jones, but to do this required trading away this years first plus other picks as well swapping #1's last year where there was a huge gap between teams. Don't think Rick would opt for this plan as he likes to build team with more picks not less, still there may come a time when the right player makes sense.

Use multiple selections in successive years, as needed -
Could be any combination, 1 & 2 or 2 & 5 then evaluate end of season, balance with possible free agents then revisit need, however the draft falls in relationship with draft grade. This is most probable strategy, but really doubt they can find facsimile of AJ unless very good/lucky in player evaluation.

Andre was a beast in Miami, closest thing in College I've ever seen is Calvin Johnson along with Fitzgerald. A case can be made to throw Blackmon in that elite company as well, dude is a complete WR & stands out from his peers. A discussion I had earlier in week with Obi concerning Rams pick. LT vs WR. In this case IMO the higher grade goes to WR, both are needs so opt for higher grade or BPA.
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Blackmon is a monster ..... in the mold of AJ but with a firey personality. GIVE ME THE ****ing ball! I almost wish he would fall down a flight of stairs or somehting .... so he would fall to the Texans. He's got the physical tools to be a good player but has the intensity and competetive fire to be a great one.


But I agree , AJ is a one of a kind as is Calvin Johnson , totally different types of players who happen to play the same position. You dont replace HOFers .... The best you can hope for is someone to fill a portion of the void left in their wake.
 
I only have 2 concerns with wright.

one his size, as corrosion mentioned our main problem is red zone efficiency his not going to help in this regard.

secondly is blocking. kubes loves to have guys on the field who can help i the run game.

other then these 2 points there is no doubt that this kid is a tremendous talent
 
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