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Texans Meet With Prospect ______, 2012 Edition

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rmartin65

Phil Kessel: Nice Guy. Tries Hard.
I figured we could use a thread to put all the confirmed contact between the Texans and prospects. I found a couple so far.

Houston - Texas linebacker Keenan Robinson
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http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012meetings3.php

Houston - Ohio State offensive tackle Mike Adams and Boston College cornerback Donnie Fletcher
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http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012meetings.php

I spoke to the Bucs, Jaguars, Dolphins, Chiefs, Falcons, Texans, Chargers, Packers, Panthers, Browns, Seahawks, and there were more but I can’t recall them at the moment.
- Old Dominion DT/DE Ronnie Cameron
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http://www.jbscouting.com/index.php/fcs/fcs-news-/6-fcs-news-/2311-ronnie-cameron-draft-journal-2-jan-23rd
 
I posted this Tuesday night. It came via twitter:

@DraftCountdown #Washington DT Alameda Ta'amu told me that the #Texans have been showing a lot of interest. --
 
There is a page called player / team observations on draftcountdown.com that list teams and players they have seen together. LINK

They show us to have visited
Mike Adams


Cam Johnson, DE, Virginia
Analysis
Strengths: Tremendous explosion, accelerates low with power. Relentless blindside pursuit, tracks down ball carriers on the other side of the field. Fast in a straight line. Excellent wide and bull rushes when quick off the snap. Strong tackler. Has good power in hands and can anchor, shed, and chase.

Weaknesses: Is slightly high cut and somewhat stiff in the hips, likely too stiff for 3-4 OLB consideration. Doesn't change directions well. Can be late off the snap. Has a history of serious injuries, including knee and pectoral. Needs more pass rush moves beyond wide and bull.

NFL Comparison: Tyler Brayton, Carolina Panthers

Derek Wolfe
I'm telling you this guy fits our mold.

Marvin Jones, WR, California
WR Marvin Jones was overshadowed a bit by Keenan Allen, but no one has made more spectacular catches along the sidelines than Jones, who has caught at least one pass in 37 straight games. In the bowl game, his chief contribution may be as a punt returner.

Mitchell Schwartz, OT, California
2010 Season
A second-team All-Pac-10 choice that started all 12 games at left tackle, anchoring an offensive line that blocked for 1,167-yard rusher Shane Vereen … earned a second-team spot on Phil Steele's postseason All-Pac-10 team and a first-team position on his mid-season All-Pac-10 squad … a member of the Jewish Sports Review's 2010 College Football All-America Team … recipient of team's Brick Muller Award as Cal's Most Valuable Offensive Lineman for the second straight year and winner of the team's Andy Smith Award as the Cal player with the most Big "C" time … an honorable mention Pac-10 All-Academic selection for the third consecutive season … selected as a second-team preseason All-Pac-10 choice by Athlon, Lindy's and Phil Steele, while Steele also listed him as the nation's No. 63 draft-eligible tackle.


Interesting that they are looking at OT's. A position no one thinks is a need. Adams is a definite first rounder so I wonder what they are thinking there. Maybe they are covering their bases in case they loose Breisal. Moving Winston inside to RG and adding Adams at LT would be sweet.
 
We resigned Butler in the offseason right, how long was his contract for? They might not be too high on our latest young OLineman
 
vanknights2002 said:
Here's a video on Marvin Jones. Look at the catch he makes at 59 sec.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boy0tkwcv-A
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Except for a few of his "spectacular" catches, he doesn't reach out to catch the ball very often, mostly letting them hit inside his body. Do coaches still teach the Diamond technique to receiver or what. I haven't seen anyone really use it at the pro level.

For those that don't know, the Diamond Technique is a way to easily catch passes that are thrown within catching distance. You put the tips of your thumbs and and forefingers together like your making a diamond and spread out your fingers, When the tip of the ball goes through the gap made by your hands the natural force of the ball will close your hands around it and stop it. Try it with your kids, they'll learn to catch extremely well extremely fast. The Diamond Tech is used for passes thrown above the waist, for lower passes you put the tips of your pinkies together and your hands in a "cradling position" I call it the cradling technique but I forgot what coach called it.
I taught my 10 year old nephew and the kid has been ripping up his little leagues since.
 
mussop said:
There is a page called player / team observations on draftcountdown.com that list teams and players they have seen together. LINK

They show us to have visited
Mike Adams


Cam Johnson, DE, Virginia
Analysis
Strengths: Tremendous explosion, accelerates low with power. Relentless blindside pursuit, tracks down ball carriers on the other side of the field. Fast in a straight line. Excellent wide and bull rushes when quick off the snap. Strong tackler. Has good power in hands and can anchor, shed, and chase.

Weaknesses: Is slightly high cut and somewhat stiff in the hips, likely too stiff for 3-4 OLB consideration. Doesn't change directions well. Can be late off the snap. Has a history of serious injuries, including knee and pectoral. Needs more pass rush moves beyond wide and bull.

NFL Comparison: Tyler Brayton, Carolina Panthers

Derek Wolfe
I'm telling you this guy fits our mold.

Marvin Jones, WR, California
WR Marvin Jones was overshadowed a bit by Keenan Allen, but no one has made more spectacular catches along the sidelines than Jones, who has caught at least one pass in 37 straight games. In the bowl game, his chief contribution may be as a punt returner.

Mitchell Schwartz, OT, California
2010 Season
A second-team All-Pac-10 choice that started all 12 games at left tackle, anchoring an offensive line that blocked for 1,167-yard rusher Shane Vereen … earned a second-team spot on Phil Steele's postseason All-Pac-10 team and a first-team position on his mid-season All-Pac-10 squad … a member of the Jewish Sports Review's 2010 College Football All-America Team … recipient of team's Brick Muller Award as Cal's Most Valuable Offensive Lineman for the second straight year and winner of the team's Andy Smith Award as the Cal player with the most Big "C" time … an honorable mention Pac-10 All-Academic selection for the third consecutive season … selected as a second-team preseason All-Pac-10 choice by Athlon, Lindy's and Phil Steele, while Steele also listed him as the nation's No. 63 draft-eligible tackle.


Interesting that they are looking at OT's. A position no one thinks is a need. Adams is a definite first rounder so I wonder what they are thinking there. Maybe they are covering their bases in case they loose Breisal. Moving Winston inside to RG and adding Adams at LT would be sweet.
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Agree! I won't be surprised if we take Wolfe, even at #26. They say he's climbing the draft boards.
 
Insideop said:
Agree! I won't be surprised if we take Wolfe, even at #26. They say he's climbing the draft boards.
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If we draft Wolfe do we not start out 1st round pick or bench Antonio Smith for him?

I can't envision a scenario where either of those things happens.
 
nero THE zero said:
If we draft Wolfe do we not start out 1st round pick or bench Antonio Smith for him?

I can't envision a scenario where either of those things happens.
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The Texans should be entering into era where the 1st rounder automatically starting from day 1 should be over.
 
ArlingtonTexan said:
The Texans should be entering into era where the 1st rounder automatically starting from day 1 should be over.
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Is there precedent for teams not starting their 1st round picks (aside from instances where you might sit a QB for a year)? Even the best teams in the NFL have holes where a 1st round pick is going to/should be better than the guy ahead of him.

Seems like a first round draft pick who can't start would be an indictment on your scouting more so than a statement of your depth/talent level.
 
nero THE zero said:
Is there precedent for teams not starting their 1st round picks (aside from instances where you might sit a QB for a year)?

Seems to me that even the best teams in the NFL have holes where a 1st round pick is going to/should be better than the guy ahead of him.

Seems like drafting a guy in the first would be an indictment on your scouting moreso than a statement of your depth/talent level.
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Steelers, Packers, Ravens and others have all picked players in the first round that sat behind others in the lineup their rookie years and came out fine. The last 10 picks in the first round are usually not guys that are garunteed to start unless those teams have a specific glaring hole that could be fixed by said rookie.

Not every superstar in the NFL starts out as one as a rookie.
 
nero THE zero said:
Is there precedent for teams not starting their 1st round picks (aside from instances where you might sit a QB for a year)? Even the best teams in the NFL have holes where a 1st round pick is going to/should be better than the guy ahead of him.

Seems like a first round draft pick who can't start would be an indictment on your scouting more so than a statement of your depth/talent level.
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If every year a team has a spot where a rookie is automatically better than what they have every single year then they are not good enough. Even with the salary cap and free agency, the better organizations are not running out rookies who don't have prove better than an existing player.

A late 1st or 2nd round WR is not just waltzing and taking Kevin Walter's job w/o excellent performance. We have gotten there and it is a good thing, not a bad one.
 
Jan. 27, 2012 12:02 p.m. - by Brandon Williams - CBS Sports

Aggies WR to meet with Texans
Texas A&M WR Jeff Fuller said that he would be meeting with Texans GM Rick Smith at next month's Combine in Indianapolis. Fuller (6'4, 217), who struggled with hamstring injuries during the 2011 season, said he was scheduled to meet with Smith during this week's Senior Bowl before but that meeting was cancelled and Smith departed to Hawaii for the Pro Bowl, where the Texans staff is coaching the AFC team.
 
Martin said the Houston Texans have expressed the most interest in him so far, but several other teams have been in contact with him and agent Rick Smith as well.


That is Mike Martin DT Michigan. Here is link. I love this guy in the third round.
 
Randle and many other prospects faced their potential employers at the combine. The former LSU Tiger met with the Texans and liked his meeting with Gary Kubiak and his staff.

“They’re just looking for a playmaker and I told them I can be that guy if they want me to be,” Randle said. “It was a pretty good conversation with Coach (Gary Kubiak)’s staff and the GM, a lot of good things were said.”

http://houston.cbslocal.com/2012/03/06/getting-to-know-nfl-prospect-wr-rueben-randle/
 
As mentioned in the first post, Texans interested in Old Dominion DT Ronnie Cameron.

Josh Buchanan ‏ @JoshBDraft Close
Old Dominion DT Ronnie Cameron has visits with the Cardinals, Texans, Chargers, and Jaguars.
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http://twitter.com/#!/JoshBDraft/status/184005629797613569

The Texans attended his pro day.

http://www.jbscouting.com/index.php/interviews/3-interviews/2362-ronnie-cameron-journal-3

The Texans tend to have visits with players that likely won't be drafted in hopes of signing them when they become UDFAs.
 
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...after-tracking-pre-draft-visits-and-workouts/

from another thread but need to highlighted here also.

. In 2011, twelve of the top-14 picks either worked out for or visited their team before the draft. The only players who did not work out for or visit the team they were picked by were Texans defensive end J.J. Watt and Jaguars quarterback Blaine Gabbert. Jags G.M. Gene Smith did personally attend Gabbert’s Insight Bowl game against Iowa, however, and the Texans don’t use pre-draft visits on first-round prospects. Which brings us to our next discovery.

2. Some teams don’t use any pre-draft visits on elite prospects. The Texans, Bears, Jaguars, and Packers concern themselves almost strictly with late-round, undrafted types when scheduling visits. For example, the player drafted earliest with whom we know Green Bay formally visited was Markell Carter, the 194th overall pick. The Raiders and Colts, for the most part, also fall into this category.

And either the Houston media is not at all concerned with reporting pre-draft visits and workouts, or the Texans just don’t have many of them. (Our guess is the former.) We counted a league-low six Texans pre-draft visits, and each team is allowed up to 30.
 
El Tejano said:
Appearantly we got visits scheduled with LSU CB Ron Brooks and Texas A&M CB Lionel Smith.

I'm excited about Ron Brooks. He can really play some special teams too and creates alot of turnovers with his tackling (that's right...not just hits but text book tackling).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beSEqPaUZrk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLW89FVQc2Q
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Looks like we are trying to improve the CB depth. Competition for the back end.

Good find on Ron Brooks. He looks like he could be a special teams standout. A really good gunner.
 
PFT's list:

Houston Texans

LSU cornerback Ron Brooks (4/?).

Texas A&M kicker Randy Bullock (4/16).

Old Dominion defensive tackle Ronnie Cameron (?/?).

Boise State safety George Iloka (?/?).

Northwestern State cornerback Jeremy Lane (4/1).

Grambling receiver Mario Louis (4/?).

Arkansas State safety Kelcie McCray (?/?).

Texas A&M cornerback Lionel Smith (4/?).

Illinois safety Tavon Wilson (?/?).
 
UNLV-WR Phillip Payne, Linebacker Nate Carter, defensive end James Dunlap, wide receiver Michael Johnson and defensive back/kick returner Deante Purvis worked out. Eight NFL teams sent scouts -- Buffalo, Carolina, Cincinnati, Houston, Oakland, Pittsburgh, San Diego and Seattle.
 
Source: Grambling WR Mario Louis to visit Texans next week
by Aaron Wilson of Scout.com, March 29, 2012 at 6:22 pm ET

Gary Kubiak Profile

Grambling standout wide receiver Mario Louis is scheduled to visit the Houston Texans next week, according to a league source.

A former basketball player drawing interest from several NFL teams, including the Green Bay Packers, Detroit Lions and the Minnesota Vikings, Louis caught 51 passes for 1,129 yards and 18 touchdowns last season.

He averaged 22.14 yards per reception.

For more coverage of the NFL, go to profootball.scout.com.
 
If we select a corner before 6th I will actually scream. We either go with CBs we have or someone needs to step up and say we screwed up with Harris and Carmichael or we don't have coaches in place to develop players. Then someone needs to be fired.
 
More corners db's play than any other position in football.

They are absolutely vital to success in today's NFL.

I have 0 issue with the texans taking a corner in the draft.
 
Rey said:
More corners db's play than any other position in football.

They are absolutely vital to success in today's NFL.

I have 0 issue with the texans taking a corner in the draft.
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We have 6 corners on roster now. How about working with that and fill some other spots? Yeah, I do have a bit of rancor concerning that spot.
 
badboy said:
We have 6 corners on roster now. How about working with that and fill some other spots? Yeah, I do have a bit of rancor concerning that spot.
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You are expecting a late round draft pick to come in and contribute?

I really don't care what position the guy plays. If they think they can find a good player in the late rounds, pick him.
 
badboy said:
If we select a corner before 6th I will actually scream. We either go with CBs we have or someone needs to step up and say we screwed up with Harris and Carmichael or we don't have coaches in place to develop players. Then someone needs to be fired.
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Rick smith has consistently said he is going to take a corner in the draft every year. so far that's the one promise I know that he has kept.
 
Playoffs said:
PFT's list:

Houston Texans

LSU cornerback Ron Brooks (4/?).

Texas A&M kicker Randy Bullock (4/16).

Old Dominion defensive tackle Ronnie Cameron (?/?).

Boise State safety George Iloka (?/?).

Northwestern State cornerback Jeremy Lane (4/1).

Grambling receiver Mario Louis (4/?).

Arkansas State safety Kelcie McCray (?/?).

Texas A&M cornerback Lionel Smith (4/?).

Illinois safety Tavon Wilson (?/?).
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This is one player that could have potential at either safety spots and corner.

Watch this VIDEO
 
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFP-Sunday-Blitz-2109.html

West Virginia’s Bruce Irvin may be heating up in the draft to the point he could creep into the first round. He is scheduled to take 12 visits to NFL teams. He is appealing both the 3-4 teams as an outside linebacker and 4-3 teams as a defensive end. Among the teams he is visiting are the Bears, Browns, Chiefs, Dolphins, Forty Niners, Jets, Panthers, Patriots, Texans and Titans. Part of the reason so many want to see him is coaches want to put him on the board and watch tape with him, and have a chance to see what makes him tick.
 
Kinda surprising for us to be bringing in a top round guy for a visit. We normally bring in UDFA and late rounders.
 
HOU-TEX said:
Kinda surprising for us to be bringing in a top round guy for a visit. We normally bring in UDFA and late rounders.
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As I have been told, the knock on Kendricks is intelligence- apparently his interviews at the combine did not go so well.

This tells me that the Texans like him as a player, and want some more time with the kid to see if he has enough between the ears to be effective in the NFL.
 
rmartin65 said:
YES! I know BL does not like the guy, but in my opinion Kendricks is an ideal 3-4 ILB. My target for 2nd round.
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Your not worried about his lack of size at 5'11" and 239 lbs., how's he going to stand up to the pounding from blocking FB and OG?
 
Wolf6151 said:
Your not worried about his lack of size at 5'11" and 239 lbs., how's he going to stand up to the pounding from blocking FB and OG?
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Nope. At 5'11", 240 lbs is a lot of muscle mass. He is short, but I do not think he is small. He has good upper body strength, and a lot of explosive power in his legs and core. I have no concerns about his size.
 
Wolf6151 said:
Your not worried about his lack of size at 5'11" and 239 lbs., how's he going to stand up to the pounding from blocking FB and OG?
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He looks plenty strong to me.

ncf_a_kendricks_ps_400.jpg


40-yard dash (4.47), vertical jump (39.5) and broad jump (10-7). He tied for fifth overall at the combine in both the vertical and broad jump. He also had a time of 4.19 in the 20-yard shuttle, the fifth fastest for linebackers.
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Quick enough to stay with Tight Ends and slot receivers as well, so he may be a 3-down LB in our system. He might make a good RB too if that whole linebacker thing doesn't work out...
 
Dutchrudder said:
He looks plenty strong to me.


Quick enough to stay with Tight Ends and slot receivers as well, so he may be a 3-down LB in our system. He might make a good RB too if that whole linebacker thing doesn't work out...
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I read his Dad was a pretty solid RB for UCLA.
 
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