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Why People Are Angry That We Rested Our Starters?

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Check this:

New England didn't rest their starters.

New Orleans didn't rest their starters.

49ers, Steelers, Ravens, not resting their starters either.

I know some of these team have seeding to think about, but if they were thinking like the Texans, when you're in you're in, right? :choke:

James Casey just said on the radio that the team learned Saturday that the Texans would be resting their starters.

I didn't even pay for a ticket, but if I had paid to see the Texans play I would be pissed with what they put on the field. But I have paid, in many, many ways

Jake was getting killed out there behind a kindergarten O-Line.

Plus, a loss is a loss. There is no way to rationalize a loss. How can anyone be cool with a friggin' loss?

All this "play to win" crap that Kubes has been giving us is horseshit. Nothing more! He lied.

Moreover, this loss only puts us 1 win over what they did in 2009. That's only 1 game up as the Texans went on a 3 game skid. That's not very much of a turnaround - because if we were not in such a **** division, 10-6 would probably have not have gotten us in.

Sure, the Texans could go all the way and win the Super Bowl...but if they don't - and especially if they keel over in the first playoff game, I want Kubes head on a pike at uncle Bob's next charity golf function.
 
Check this:

New England didn't rest their starters.

New Orleans didn't rest their starters.

49ers, Steelers, Ravens, not resting their starters either.

I know some of these team have seeding to think about, but if they were thinking like the Texans, when you're in you're in, right? :choke:

James Casey just said on the radio that the team learned Saturday that the Texans would be resting their starters.

I didn't even pay for a ticket, but if I had paid to see the Texans play I would be pissed with what they put on the field. But I have paid, in many, many ways

Jake was getting killed out there behind a kindergarten O-Line.

Plus, a loss is a loss. There is no way to rationalize a loss. How can anyone be cool with a friggin' loss?

All this "play to win" crap that Kubes has been giving us is horseshit. Nothing more! He lied.

Moreover, this loss only puts us 1 win over what they did in 2009. That's only 1 game up as the Texans went on a 3 game skid. That's not very much of a turnaround - because if we were not in such a **** division, 10-6 would probably have not have gotten us in.

Sure, the Texans could go all the way and win the Super Bowl...but if they don't - and especially if they keel over in the first playoff game, I want Kubes head on a pike at uncle Bob's next charity golf function.

Agree with EVERYTHING but the last line...because Kubiak is getting dynasty-type extension in this off-season. No doubt about it. He will.

But yeah, this was a bad three weeks of Texans football after what was a great 13 weeks of Texans football.

Playoff game will be fun or it will be miserable. No in between, and I think the odds of it being miserable rose with this recent display by Kubiak (as HC of this team) to decide to lay down and do juuuuuuust enough to give off the appearance of being competitive today.
 
Check this:

New England didn't rest their starters.

New Orleans didn't rest their starters.

49ers, Steelers, Ravens, not resting their starters either.

I know some of these team have seeding to think about, but if they were thinking like the Texans, when you're in you're in, right? :choke:

James Casey just said on the radio that the team learned Saturday that the Texans would be resting their starters.

I didn't even pay for a ticket, but if I had paid to see the Texans play I would be pissed with what they put on the field. But I have paid, in many, many ways

Jake was getting killed out there behind a kindergarten O-Line.

Plus, a loss is a loss. There is no way to rationalize a loss. How can anyone be cool with a friggin' loss?

All this "play to win" crap that Kubes has been giving us is horseshit. Nothing more! He lied.

Moreover, this loss only puts us 1 win over what they did in 2009. That's only 1 game up as the Texans went on a 3 game skid. That's not very much of a turnaround - because if we were not in such a **** division, 10-6 would probably have not have gotten us in.

Sure, the Texans could go all the way and win the Super Bowl...but if they don't - and especially if they keel over in the first playoff game, I want Kubes head on a pike at uncle Bob's next charity golf function.

Gotta be honest, i am not mad we rested our starters. I am however mad about the end of the game, yeah go for 2 but once we had a false start kick a FG and tie the game up.

I would much rather face the titans in the play offs than cincy TBH. Do i think we should have rested our starters ? Hell yeah has anybody looked at who all we have lost this season, if foster had torn his acl, everyone would of been calling for kubiaks head.

The titans needed a lot of help regardless so i dont blame kubiak. The odds arent good for the titans as it is.
 
Check this:

New England didn't rest their starters.

New Orleans didn't rest their starters.

49ers, Steelers, Ravens, not resting their starters either.

I know some of these team have seeding to think about, but if they were thinking like the Texans, when you're in you're in, right? :choke:

James Casey just said on the radio that the team learned Saturday that the Texans would be resting their starters.

I didn't even pay for a ticket, but if I had paid to see the Texans play I would be pissed with what they put on the field. But I have paid, in many, many ways

Jake was getting killed out there behind a kindergarten O-Line.

Plus, a loss is a loss. There is no way to rationalize a loss. How can anyone be cool with a friggin' loss?

All this "play to win" crap that Kubes has been giving us is horseshit. Nothing more! He lied.

Moreover, this loss only puts us 1 win over what they did in 2009. That's only 1 game up as the Texans went on a 3 game skid. That's not very much of a turnaround - because if we were not in such a **** division, 10-6 would probably have not have gotten us in.

Sure, the Texans could go all the way and win the Super Bowl...but if they don't - and especially if they keel over in the first playoff game, I want Kubes head on a pike at uncle Bob's next charity golf function.

Actually, New Orleans rested some starters; their starting MLB and safety sat this one out. I think one of their RB committee sat out the game too.

GB sat Rodgers.

I suspect that Belichick & Brady wanted to get back at the Bills for that loss they handed the Pats early in the season. So Bill wasn't about to sit Tom down.

Depends on who the respective coaches believe need the recovery time and what each team has to gain by going all out.

To be honest, I'm surprised Cushing played as much as he did.
 
No reason to be upset here, IMO. Chances are we will play them next week. On top of that we were playing a bland defense. The 2nd team defense was playing OK, and overall we hung in the game until the very end with our backups.

While I can understand the frustration, I see nothing wrong with this. The team essentially gets a mini bye week, followed by only part of a game. Plenty of rest for next week. I also was very much for the 2-point conversion and could care less that we lost. Let's make it to next week and worry about things then. Until then, even though we lost we put out a good effort and could have beat a team playing for their season with our backups.
 
Green Bay won.

and you would be one of the first ones on this board screaming for Kubiak's head if the starters played a full game and Foster, of AJ or even Yates got hurt, and wonder why he didn't pull his starters in a game that meant nothing...

hypocrisy lives here my friend....
 
New England was playing for #1 seed. Thankfully they played their starters because they were down to the Bills.

Pretty sure Baltimore and Pitt, and San Fran were/are playing for something today as well.
 
It's because this loss kept the TITANS' slim chance of getting into the playoffs alive. If we played any other team in this meaningless game, with this banged up squad cursed with a ridiculous injury bug all season long, there would be no issue
 
and you would be one of the first ones on this board screaming for Kubiak's head if the starters played a full game and Foster, of AJ or even Yates got hurt, and wonder why he didn't pull his starters in a game that meant nothing...

hypocrisy lives here my friend....

What is with this Mythic Legend of "IF the starters had been hurt everyone calls for Kubiak's head!"????

How does this get on here and accepted as fact AND as a rational excuse for what happened today? I don't get it.

Is it the idea that you can guilt trip people into looking like horrible people for wanting to "risk" the health of ANY player? LOL.

Man oh man.....I give up.
 
New England was playing for #1 seed. Thankfully they played their starters because they were down to the Bills.

Pretty sure Baltimore and Pitt, and San Fran were/are playing for something today as well.

they are/were. We are the ONLY team that was locked to a seed, the 1st 2nd and wild card were all on the line today, i see no harm in us resting our guys.
 
Seeding is important, so other teams will play for the improved seeding. The first round bye, and home field advantage, are big deals.

This isn't anything new... most coaches rest the players that need it. So why are people jumping on Kubiak?
 
It's because this loss kept the TITANS' slim chance of getting into the playoffs alive. If we played any other team in this meaningless game, with this banged up squad cursed with a ridiculous injury bug all season long, there would be no issue

BINGO!

Do the rest of you understand the history of the AFC South in the past 10 years? Do you not understand the idea of how our divisional opponents kicked us and laughed at us for 9 years and in year 10 we have the chance to make sure ALL THREE OF THEM are sitting on their asses watching US and not preparing for a game (against us, by the way!).

A lot of Johnny Come Lately's or something, I suppose. I will never want to think that me laying down in a final reg season game allows a divisional foe the chance to get INTO the playoffs which means they could surge past us and do better than us. Why is this so hard to wrap one's mind around????
 
It's because this loss kept the TITANS' slim chance of getting into the playoffs alive. If we played any other team in this meaningless game, with this banged up squad cursed with a ridiculous injury bug all season long, there would be no issue

True but is was a Titans team that played their starter for 4 quarters and barely, just barely won the game.

the only other team I would hive wanted to see in Reliant next week aside from the Titans, was the Jets cause Sanchez absolutely sucks. I don't care if they are a division rival, Texans know them inside and out and Titans tipped their hand this week by running that 5 wide set, now the Texans has that on film...
 
What is with this Mythic Legend of "IF the starters had been hurt everyone calls for Kubiak's head!"????

How does this get on here and accepted as fact AND as a rational excuse for what happened today? I don't get it.

Is it the idea that you can guilt trip people into looking like horrible people for wanting to "risk" the health of ANY player? LOL.

Man oh man.....I give up.

Wes Welker, 2009....

nuff said....
 
BINGO!

Do the rest of you understand the history of the AFC South in the past 10 years? Do you not understand the idea of how our divisional opponents kicked us and laughed at us for 9 years and in year 10 we have the chance to make sure ALL THREE OF THEM are sitting on their asses watching US and not preparing for a game (against us, by the way!).

A lot of Johnny Come Lately's or something, I suppose. I will never want to think that me laying down in a final reg season game allows a divisional foe the chance to get INTO the playoffs which means they could surge past us and do better than us. Why is this so hard to wrap one's mind around????

Then you're letting a rivalry get to your head and not thinking big picture. Big picture is winning the Super Bowl, not just to make sure no other AFC South team makes the playoffs.
 
Titans Beat Texans in Playoffs, Render Texans AFC South Title Useless

Boy, that'd be a nice headline to gaze at the day after, right?

We'd be laughed at and ridiculed forever. "Same old Houston team! LOL!"

The outcome of today cannot be changed. But the residue of the loss MIGHT linger and pose problems.

I'm just a proactive type personality. If you can limit the future risks, by taking risks of your own up front and early on, then why not do it? Take care of today way you shouldn't be putting off until tomorrow. I guess I'm boring like that.
 
True but is was a Titans team that played their starter for 4 quarters and barely, just barely won the game.

the only other team I would hive wanted to see in Reliant next week aside from the Titans, was the Jets cause Sanchez absolutely sucks. I don't care if they are a division rival, Texans know them inside and out and Titans tipped their hand this week by running that 5 wide set, now the Texans has that on film...

I believe as soon as you start talking about who you would rather play in the playoffs - whether it's the team talking about it, the media, or the fans - there is a hole inside of you somewhere where confidence used to live.

I don't give a damn who the Texans played this week, or who they play in the playoffs...I've paid, I want wins.
 
BINGO!

Do the rest of you understand the history of the AFC South in the past 10 years? Do you not understand the idea of how our divisional opponents kicked us and laughed at us for 9 years and in year 10 we have the chance to make sure ALL THREE OF THEM are sitting on their asses watching US and not preparing for a game (against us, by the way!).

A lot of Johnny Come Lately's or something, I suppose. I will never want to think that me laying down in a final reg season game allows a divisional foe the chance to get INTO the playoffs which means they could surge past us and do better than us. Why is this so hard to wrap one's mind around????

that is why you need to quit living int he past and start looking forward...

TITANS BEAT THE 2nd STRING AND 3rd STRING TEXANS TEAM....

why is THAT so hard you wrap your head around?

Bunch of Negative nacy pants around here....
 
I would feel better playing the Titans than the Bengals (who we played away with our starters in the lineup)
 
New England was playing for #1 seed. Thankfully they played their starters because they were down to the Bills.

Pretty sure Baltimore and Pitt, and San Fran were/are playing for something today as well.

they are/were. We are the ONLY team that was locked to a seed, the 1st 2nd and wild card were all on the line today, i see no harm in us resting our guys.

Yeah. WINS! That's why people play the game.

The Niners and the Saints are both 12-3. If the Niners lose and Saints win, the Saints become the #2 seed.

The Ravens and the Steelers are both 11-4. If the Ravens lose and the Steelers win the Steelers become AFC North champs and the Ravens drop to a wild card berth.

If New England (12-3) and the Ravens win, then the Ravens become the #1 seed.

Win or lose, we had nothing to gain. Period.
 
True but is was a Titans team that played their starter for 4 quarters and barely, just barely won the game.

the only other team I would hive wanted to see in Reliant next week aside from the Titans, was the Jets cause Sanchez absolutely sucks. I don't care if they are a division rival, Texans know them inside and out and Titans tipped their hand this week by running that 5 wide set, now the Texans has that on film...

Yep. I am 100% fine with how things went down today, my original statement is a representation of how over the top people are being with their complaining. Our team is banged up, and our position is locked in..you have to be smart when there is nothing to play for this week and start preparing for next week when it truly matters.

And as I type this, 2 of the 3 teams the Titans need to win to get in are currently losing.
 
I'm not mad at who we rested, but I am beyond pissed that we didn't kick the extra point when we were backed up to the 7.
 
Then you're letting a rivalry get to your head and not thinking big picture. Big picture is winning the Super Bowl, not just to make sure no other AFC South team makes the playoffs.

True. I am a Big Picture guy, no doubt. But I like my steak with A-1 sauce and not JUST how it tastes when it hits my plate.

All I am saying is we had the chance to put a moon-shining, incesting hillbilly in jail and better the NFL community, and we didn't. That's just wrong! LOL.

Wes Welker, 2009....

nuff said....

In a court of law, what you did would be called circumstantial evidence. Did Welker play today? Did he get hurt? Nuff said.

True but is was a Titans team that played their starter for 4 quarters and barely, just barely won the game.

the only other team I would hive wanted to see in Reliant next week aside from the Titans, was the Jets cause Sanchez absolutely sucks. I don't care if they are a division rival, Texans know them inside and out and Titans tipped their hand this week by running that 5 wide set, now the Texans has that on film...

Maybe so. Better hope they don't come in and get help from refs, help from us if we stumble early and often, etc. Any given Sunday.

I am not dumb enough to try and refute that they pose a better opponent for us than another team out there. They are ripe for the picking. But there's also the general, over-arching issue of momentum. I hate the idea of a 3-game losing streak heading into a pressure-packed playoff game.
 
I believe as soon as you start talking about who you would rather play in the playoffs - whether it's the team talking about it, the media, or the fans - there is a hole inside of you somewhere where confidence used to live.

I don't give a damn who the Texans played this week, or who they play in the playoffs...I've paid, I want wins.

When you are starting a 3rd string rookie QB who the last 2 weeks LOOKED like a 3rd string rookie QB, you want the easiest road to the Super Bowl...

and you are right, there is a hole inside of me where confidence use to be filled with, it was filled with TJ Yates...
 
I'm not mad at who we rested, but I am beyond pissed that we didn't kick the extra point when we were backed up to the 7.

any other situation, Kubiak would have kicked it.. he was looking to get out of there win or lose .
 
I'm not mad at who we rested, but I am beyond pissed that we didn't kick the extra point when we were backed up to the 7.

Agreed. At worst, kicking the PAT extends game time and we lose in overtime.

At best, we get the ball in OT and score a TD or FG and ice the game in dramatic fashion. We'll never know though.
 
The problem is that they WEREN'T thinking "when you're in, you're in", precisely BECAUSE they still had seeding to play for.

The Packers rested their starters because they, much like us, were locked into their seed.

I wanted to beat the **** out of the Titans, but since I'm not coaching, I don't have control over what happens.
 
that is why you need to quit living int he past and start looking forward...

TITANS BEAT THE 2nd STRING AND 3rd STRING TEXANS TEAM....

why is THAT so hard you wrap your head around?

Bunch of Negative nacy pants around here....

Sounds a lot like "moral victory" stuff, and that's what this franchise needs to leave behind if they want to be top-tier in the future.

Patriots won 49-21 after being down 21-0.

Saints beat Panthers 45-17.

Regardless of what the Pats or Saints were playing for, they played to win. I love that type of attitude. I really do. It says, "WINNING is important." It's a mindset. A culture.
 
Agreed. At worst, kicking the PAT extends game time and we lose in overtime.

At best, we get the ball in OT and score a TD or FG and ice the game in dramatic fashion. We'll never know though.

Why extend the game with a short roster? So many inactives already, the starters were already done, the backup tackle got hurt, Garret Graham was playing OLB because Brahman got hurt. End the game one way or the other right there we are still the #3 seed regardless of winning or losing.

And yes, I understand you don't want to the Titans to get into the playoffs but you have to think about the Texans first. The Titans need the Ravens, Broncos, and Raiders ALL to win. Currently 2 out of those 3 teams are losing
 
Sounds a lot like "moral victory" stuff, and that's what this franchise needs to leave behind if they want to be top-tier in the future.

Patriots won 49-21 after being down 21-0.

Saints beat Panthers 45-17.

Regardless of what the Pats or Saints were playing for, they played to win. I love that type of attitude. I really do. It says, "WINNING is important." It's a mindset. A culture.

you REALLY thing Brady would play if they had the #1 seed locked up?


Hell, Manning.. the king of garbage stats sat out early one year and the jets beat them
 
Agreed. At worst, kicking the PAT extends game time and we lose in overtime.

At best, we get the ball in OT and score a TD or FG and ice the game in dramatic fashion. We'll never know though.

No, at worst Delhomme or some other player gets hurt.

Kubiak made the right call going to for 2. The center just screwed up and we lost. Period.
 
Titans Beat Texans in Playoffs, Render Texans AFC South Title Useless

Boy, that'd be a nice headline to gaze at the day after, right?

We'd be laughed at and ridiculed forever. "Same old Houston team! LOL!"

How insecure are you? People who give a **** about what other people think of them are pathetic.
 
any other situation, Kubiak would have kicked it.. he was looking to get out of there win or lose .
He should have been trying to win. I really don't care if it risks an injury to someone who will never see the field next week. If they get hurt, you sign someone off the street or call up someone from the practice squad to sit on the bench.
 
you REALLY thing Brady would play if they had the #1 seed locked up?

In 2009 vs. Texans in a final reg season game, Brady came IN and OUT of the game as the scenario dictated him to do. If they were ahead, he was pulled out. If they needed a boost, he was put in.

I believe that Bill Belichick, no matter what people think of him, wants to win so badly that he places it above all else. He rides the line as closely as he can.

YES, that's the type of culture I want my Texans to pursue and obtain and maintain. It's dynasty building, not just merely getting a first-ever playoff seed and being thrilled about it.

Myers at center, IMO, might even make the difference today.
 
On the other hand how sweet would it be to beat the crap out of the titans in the play offs, i'm actually kinda hoping they make it. I hate the titans and to beat them in the play offs would be icing on the cake to me !!!!
 
here you go guys..2010

CHARLOTTE -- Drew Brees watched from the sideline as the New Orleans offense failed to move the ball. He shivered on the cold Sunday afternoon as the backups on defense tried to stop Jonathan Stewart.

Just after NFL commissioner Roger Goodell talked of creating incentives to get teams that have already locked up playoff positioning to play their starters, Saints coach Sean Payton enjoyed the view of Brees with him on the sideline -- even if it meant entering the playoffs on a three-game losing streak after a 23-10 loss to the Carolina Panthers.

“The idea of getting a draft pick and having your quarterback not healthy for a divisional playoff game doesn’t sound real appealing to me,” Payton said of Goodell’s incentive idea
.

Sure, the Saints (13-3) are still the No. 1 seed with home-field advantage throughout the playoffs. But what happened to the team that was once flirting with a perfect season?

“Would I have loved it if we came out here and scored 41 today? I mean, yeah,” Brees said. “But is it worth the risk? Those are the things you have to weigh. We had a formula that worked well for us in 2006 with that No. 2 seed and first-round bye. That’s what we’re following.”
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/sports/pro/football&id=7199463
 
Sounds a lot like "moral victory" stuff, and that's what this franchise needs to leave behind if they want to be top-tier in the future.

Patriots won 49-21 after being down 21-0.

Saints beat Panthers 45-17.

Regardless of what the Pats or Saints were playing for, they played to win. I love that type of attitude. I really do. It says, "WINNING is important." It's a mindset. A culture.

Who gives a F what the Pats did, they were playing for something today, they HAD to win, period.

YOu want to compare teams, compare the injuries suffered by each of those teams compared to the Texans. Any one of those teams lose their 1st string QB? How about their #1 WR for most of the year? Their #1 RB for what 4 games this year? Their star defensive player?

It had NOTHING, I'll repeat N-O-T-H-I-N-G to do with winning today and EVERYTHING to do with getting into next weeks playoff game with as healthy as they could....
 
He should have been trying to win. I really don't care if it risks an injury to someone who will never see the field next week. If they get hurt, you sign someone off the street or call up someone from the practice squad to sit on the bench.

Yea...Screw Ben Tate, Joel Dressen, James Casey, and even our back up QB Jake Delhomme! If they get hurt we'll just sign some scrub off the street whose talent level is in equal of scrubbiness to the aforementioned guys. We should have kept playing to go to OT to win so we could have been the #3 seed. Unfortunately we lost and are now stuck with being the #3 seed....
 
The question that keeps rattling in my brain is "Has the new combination of Texans offensive and defensive starter players learned to win in the last 3 1/2 games such that they could not afford some more 'education' in this last game?"

GB, like the Texans, had it "locked up" and rested their starters. GB, unlike the Texans, don't need an extra "lecture" to learn how to win.
 
How insecure are you? People who give a **** about what other people think of them are pathetic.

What people think of you is a direct result of what you do or are.

Regardless of if it's warranted or not.

I'm to the point that I want more than just to be happy with a playoff game. Call me greedy, call me insecure, whatever. I want it all. I want the Titans and the other two AFCS teams to soak in misery and NOT get into the playoffs. I want us to beat them down every chance we get. I want us to win the playoff game no matter WHO we face. I want wins. WINS WINS WINS.

Insecure? Hardly. Greedy? Probably so.
 
Yea...Screw Ben Tate, Joel Dressen, James Casey, and even our back up QB Jake Delhomme! If they get hurt we'll just sign some scrub off the street whose talent level is in equal of scrubbiness to the aforementioned guys. We should have kept playing to go to OT to win so we could have been the #3 seed. Unfortunately we lost and are now stuck with being the #3 seed....
Yep, pretty much. I would have risked it. But then again, I'm not a vag.
 
Crazy how the Texans were the ONLY team in the AFC playoff picture with absolutely nothing to play for. In the NFC, it was only the Packers.

Everybody else was playing for homefield or division title.

TJ Yates got a frickin AC seperation on the very play for gods sake. I would have pulled him right there....
 
In 2009 vs. Texans in a final reg season game, Brady came IN and OUT of the game as the scenario dictated him to do. If they were ahead, he was pulled out. If they needed a boost, he was put in.

Right.

Ha! I know this is looking like a love fest. But that's why I said in the gameday thread, at the very least you rotate some of your starters in and out if you really want to give them a rest.

Graham at linebacker? Okay, so you couldn't have put in a real lineback for one series, just because on the previous series he was sitting on his ass with a mouth full of sunflower seeds?
 
Yea...Screw Ben Tate, Joel Dressen, James Casey, and even our back up QB Jake Delhomme! If they get hurt we'll just sign some scrub off the street whose talent level is in equal of scrubbiness to the aforementioned guys. We should have kept playing to go to OT to win so we could have been the #3 seed. Unfortunately we lost and are now stuck with being the #3 seed....

:clap:
 
In 2009 vs. Texans in a final reg season game, Brady came IN and OUT of the game as the scenario dictated him to do. If they were ahead, he was pulled out. If they needed a boost, he was put in.

They had a chance for a late comeback and it was still their back up QB playing in the 4th
 
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