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Total rookie mistakes but he'll improve.yes. As much as I like TJ, he still has made plenty of mistakes missing some open targets. Schaub executes much better in the first half.
I don't think drug use has anything to do with your football ignorance.Do you still think I'm on crack when I say that TJ Yates beats out Schaub as the No.1 QB next year?
TJ Freaking Yates!!!!!
Schaub missed a wide-open OD on almost the exact same play in almost the exact same field position back during the Bucs game. OD was slapping his hands and trying to get Schaub's attention but Schaub went to a guy who was very well-covered. Incomplete pass.I see Schaub being the QB next year. Yates has show incredible poise, but he has a tendency to fixate on one receiver. He sometimes goes through his progressions, but I would like him to do it more often. One play that they showed on CBS had a wide open OD that Yates didn't see.
Right. And the only only way Schaub flat out loses his job is if Yates takes us to the Super Bowl and wins it.Just think of Schaub as Drew Bledsoe, and think of Yates as . . . . .
I almost never disagree with you.I still feel kind of bad for Leinhart, though. I think the guy has more talent than most people have seen out of him.
That's the way it should work. If Tj continues to play the way he has, the heir apparent no more..... he's the starter.I think TJ Yates is now what he always was - at least to the front office and Kubiak - and that's a young backup who has the potential to be heir to Schaub.
Lol. Uh oh. This is one of those posts that you post just to get people talking. You don't really believe what you wrote. You wrote it just to get people talking.That's the way it should work. If Tj continues to play the way he has, the heir apparent no more..... he's the starter.
Still a lot of football to be played. Tj can show us over the next 5 weeks, that he is no starter in the NFL, where we know Matt is the starter... no harm, no foul.
But if Tj makes plays like he did today, it's his job to lose.
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It should be that way, but a lot of factors can change that.Lol. Uh oh. This is one of those posts that you post just to get people talking. You don't really believe what you wrote. You wrote it just to get people talking.
This is still Matt Schaub's team. If Scaub makes a full recovery from his injury (as expected) he will be the starter. TJ will be the back up.
What if Yates plays lights out and we win the Super Bowl?Lol. Uh oh. This is one of those posts that you post just to get people talking. You don't really believe what you wrote. You wrote it just to get people talking.
This is still Matt Schaub's team. If Scaub makes a full recovery from his injury (as expected) he will be the starter. TJ will be the back up.
you kidding, just check out his avatar, says all you need to knowI don't think drug use has anything to do with your football ignorance.
Schaub isn't bad at eluding sacks. I do not doubt he could have gotten away from that same situation. The real issue is instead of 17 yards that Yates got you, Schaub would have slid at the 10 yard mark.Not hating on Schaub, but Yates clearly has the better upside compared to Schaub (who is maxed out). Better arm, mobility, pocket awareness/toughness, more athletic, etc. To me, the only thing Schaub has over Yates is experience. Schaub would have been sacked on that 17-yard scramble that Yates had for the first down on that last drive, for example. If Yates continues to make plays, I don't see why this team wouldn't think about moving Schaub before his contract expires. There will be some teams at the top of the draft that needs a QB, and we need a WR.
Actually....YES!Do you still think I'm on crack when I say that TJ Yates beats out Schaub as the No.1 QB next year?
TJ Freaking Yates!!!!!
Yates is 2.5/2.5 though! He has way more physical tools than Schaub. The ONLY thing Schaub has is experience.....Yates will be amazing come playoffs time, book it!!!if yates wins us a superbowl, then i think there will be no question. BUT lets not forget who got us to a 7-3 record !
I noticed Tate getting longer runs, too. I figured Foster wasn't getting much because they were keying on him, but you're right, Tate got some good runs off. But Foster's excellent on screens & Yates threw well in the 2nd half, so teams may not be so eager to jam the line from here on out. Also, winning the division means the pressure's off Yates; now he just has to play. He's already won on the road coming from behind, so it'll be fun to watch him the next 3 games.I lean more toward schaub, but just slightly. Only because we still have a small sample size on TJ Yates. If the kid wins out, take us to the AFC championship game, it will be a hard argument. Plus, Schaub may be out for some games in the beginning of the season so if Yates is still the hot hand, you have to go with him.
History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme.
I would say the running game is getting to a rough start because they don't respect Yates yet so they jam the box. But Yates proved he can beat you by airing it out so teams will start respecting that. You win you get respect.
Also, the running game has been rough because of the running defenses we played have been best in the league. And I would say Tate is showing flashes of being able to run the ball better than Foster when people jam the box. Just an opinion that may be wrong. And I am not saying start Tate over Foster, but maybe run him more in those situations. What do yall think?
I don't know about not recovered until 2013. But, Schaub very well might be not ready by the 2012 opener. Then what happens when Schaub is ready? Go with a QB who hasn't seen a snap in OTAs, mini camps, training camp, or preseason? A QB who isn't under contract after 2012? Or a QB who has been participating in the offseason and has played in a playoff game? An interesting dilemma. I still think Schaub is the QB at some point in 2012. Beyond that, who knows?Put that together with the likelyhood that Schaub won't be fully recovered until 2013 . . . yeah, that's a pretty safe bet.
If the doc (CnnnD) is right (and he usually is) Schaub won't be 100% until after preseason. So I'm thinking, to be cautious, they may PUP-list Schaub which means he's not back until mid-Oct.With this Lisfranc injury, there's every possibility that Schaub misses some part of the beginning of next season.
We've got a solid #2 who will try to compete with the #1.
But there's no way Yates has Schaub's command of this offense. More upside and more talent, yeah. But if Schaub makes it back before training camp, he's the QB although he will have some competition for it which he's never had before.
OTOH, if Yates wins the SB...
Yeah, at this point it's still the crack talking. I see where you're coming from but I think so far he's beat out Leinart for the #2 position and he's firmly established his credentials as far as future successor to Schaub. He's gotta keep growing though and learning. We just need to see how fast he picks this stuff up. He might benefit from sitting behind Schaub for a year or more. Didn't hurt Aaron Rodgers any.Do you still think I'm on crack when I say that TJ Yates beats out Schaub as the No.1 QB next year?
TJ Freaking Yates!!!!!
So you didn't see the Washington or KC games last year or the TN, St. Louis and Patriots games in 2009?Yes, i saw Yates take the team down the field and win the game in the 4th quarter.
And NO, I never ever once saw Schaub do that.
That would be wonderful if it were true. Who knows. I had a lot of doubts about Yates, and he's showing a lot of poise for a rookie and handling himself well. This is fun to see him playing at this part of the season now.Just think of Schaub as Drew Bledsoe, and think of Yates as . . . . .
No freaking way ....If the doc (CnnnD) is right (and he usually is) Schaub won't be 100% until after preseason. So I'm thinking, to be cautious, they may PUP-list Schaub which means he's not back until mid-Oct.
My question is, will soft-hearted Kubes make Leinart the interim starter? Training camp and preseason may be verrrry interesting next year.
Exactly. Schaub has come up big for this team on many occasions. I'm not sure why people don't see that.So you didn't see the Washington or KC games last year or the TN, St. Louis and Patriots games in 2009?
Ok, stand corrected.So you didn't see the Washington or KC games last year or the TN, St. Louis and Patriots games in 2009?
I've seen it. I saw him try in the Raider's game & came up short. I don't hold that against him. My question though, is why does he wait? Why doesn't he play like that when we need a score to extend the lead? Why doesn't he play like that when the other team scores & we need to keep up? Why doesn't every third down flip a switch in his head?Exactly. Schaub has come up big for this team on many occasions. I'm not sure why people don't see that.
I thought Schaub's contract was redone, i.e., extended during the offseason to make cap room for JJo and D Manning?I don't know about not recovered until 2013. But, Schaub very well might be not ready by the 2012 opener. Then what happens when Schaub is ready? Go with a QB who hasn't seen a snap in OTAs, mini camps, training camp, or preseason? A QB who isn't under contract after 2012? Or a QB who has been participating in the offseason and has played in a playoff game? An interesting dilemma. I still think Schaub is the QB at some point in 2012. Beyond that, who knows?