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Atlanta has the second ranked rushing defense in the league

TexansFanatic

TexansFanatic

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The Texans may have to throw it quite a bit more than they'd like to, especially since the Falcons will almost certainly be stacking the box and daring Yates to beat them with his arm.

The Falcons passing defense is ranked 25th.

I'd love nothing more than to see TJ pick on our good old buddy Dunta......
 
It's going to be a tough game, this one and Cincinnati, that's why I believe we will lose the next two weeks, than win out the last three.
 
TheDream34 said:
It's going to be a tough game, this one and Cincinnati, that's why I believe we will lose the next two weeks, than win out the last three.
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Oh ye of little faith. Have you not been watching the defense play the last few weeks? They've been getting better, and better, and better.

The QB that's going to have issues passing the ball this week will be Matt Ryan, not TJ Yates.

I think we're gonna run the table. :)
 
I think it is better if they stack the box, rather Yates throwing vs. an undermanned secondary than into busy, complicated coverages.
 
Terrible timing with a terrible matchup all things considered. We will have to win the TO battle by 2 minimum.
 
TexansFanatic said:
I'd love nothing more than to see TJ pick on our good old buddy Dunta......
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It's difficult to judge CB play watching a game on TV. But the last couple of games I watched, including New Orleans @ Atlanta, nobody was throwing at Dunta. Brent Grimes (who I always thought was better than Robinson) was getting worked out a lot more.

He may have finally got healthy & playing the way we wanted him to, but from what I've seen, he's not the one to pick on...... This year.
 
We better be prepared for a stark reality. The Falcons haven’t allowed a 100-yard rusher in 14 consecutive games, a streak that stretches back to last season. The Falcons are allowing 83.5 rushing yards per game this season.

Also, keep in mind that the Falcons have not been the slouch on offense that many would have you think. They have scored an average of 23.5 points per game as opposed to their opponents' 20.6 points. Relying solely on our D to save our rears may not be a very good bet
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
We better be prepared for a stark reality. The Falcons haven’t allowed a 100-yard rusher in 14 consecutive games, a streak that stretches back to last season. The Falcons are allowing 83.5 rushing yards per game this season.
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Didn't they say something similar about the Steelers?
 
Tailgate said:
Terrible timing with a terrible matchup all things considered. We will have to win the TO battle by 2 minimum.
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On the contrary, under the circumstances this is a game we didn't necessarlly expect to win anyway even with Matt Schaub under center.
We've got a 2-game lead and this is a game we can afford to lose. Just so the kid dosen't lose his confidance if we get behind real bad and he gets a
pass-rush that might overwhelm him ?
 
IDEXAN said:
On the contrary, under the circumstances this is a game we didn't necessarlly expect to win anyway even with Matt Schaub under center.
We've got a 2-game lead and this is a game we can afford to lose. Just so the kid dosen't lose his confidance if we get behind real bad and he gets a
pass-rush that might overwhelm him ?
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Really? With Schaub and Andre back you don't think so? I think we could easily take Atlanta down with Schaub running the offense and the way our defense has been playing
 
Atlanta has only beaten two over 500 teams this year, Detroit and Tennessee. If Schaub was the QB, I'd say Atlanta isn't a problem. Given the current situation, ANY team we face is gonna be an up hill road.
 
I think Foster and Tate will go over 100 combined, but not alone, and much of that will come on a few big runs. It's going to take Yates being ready to throw the ball around. They're going to have to deal with our D too, so they're not going to just score at will. We can't play conservative O and win this game--not for much of it anyway. Yates will have to make some plays.

We can afford to lose this one (and the next, for that matter) and make the playoffs, but a win would sure say a lot about whether we can actually compete in the playoffs. Despite the frustrating problems we're having, I'm still holding a thin thread of hope that we can actually compete in the playoffs, but Yates's gotta be ready.
 
I think the matchup we have to look at in the pass game is not our WR vs. Their CBs but out TE vs. their LBs. Don't know much about that match up but OD and Dreesen are having some good seasons. Anyone know about their LBs? Does ATL run a 3-4?
 
The Cush said:
Brent Grimes is no slouch at the other corner. He's a ballhawk
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He's injured, too. Knee problem had him with only three snaps against Minny last week. Dunta left the game once, too, but did come back. Dominique Franks and Chris Owens would be about the best possible scenario for Yates to let it fly.
 
El Tejano said:
I think the matchup we have to look at in the pass game is not our WR vs. Their CBs but out TE vs. their LBs. Don't know much about that match up but OD and Dreesen are having some good seasons. Anyone know about their LBs? Does ATL run a 3-4?
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Daniels and Dreeson are like Mr. Just-Get-It-Done 1 and 2. I know I'd be looking to feed the TEs scoring machine if it was me. I don't think I knew the value of TE's at all until these guys came along. Foster owes a LOT to those two for burning defenses time after time. Respect them or else.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
That was then, this is now. I would hate to go into this game resting on past laurels.
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I don't think our defenses mentality does that at all and it's contagious to the team. In a strange way I almost feel as if these circumstances are beneficial from the standpoint that the team isn't getting big headed on a 5 game win streak and they are staying more focused on the one game task at hand.
 
HJam72 said:
Daniels and Dreeson are like Mr. Just-Get-It-Done 1 and 2. I know I'd be looking to feed the TEs scoring machine if it was me. I don't think I knew the value of TE's at all until these guys came along. Foster owes a LOT to those two for burning defenses time after time. Respect them or else.
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So do you have an idea what LBs would be covering them.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
We better be prepared for a stark reality. The Falcons haven’t allowed a 100-yard rusher in 14 consecutive games, a streak that stretches back to last season. The Falcons are allowing 83.5 rushing yards per game this season.

Also, keep in mind that the Falcons have not been the slouch on offense that many would have you think. They have scored an average of 23.5 points per game as opposed to their opponents' 20.6 points. Relying solely on our D to save our rears may not be a very good bet
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I'm hoping for a 'squeaker' win, but preparing for a crushing loss. This could get really ugly even if Kubiak dials up the playbook.
 
El Tejano said:
I don't think our defenses mentality does that at all and it's contagious to the team. In a strange way I almost feel as if these circumstances are beneficial from the standpoint that the team isn't getting big headed on a 5 game win streak and they are staying more focused on the one game task at hand.
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I was trying to say that not focusing somewhat more this game on the passing aspect of our game would be a mistake.
 
Thorn said:
Atlanta has only beaten two over 500 teams this year, Detroit and Tennessee. If Schaub was the QB, I'd say Atlanta isn't a problem. Given the current situation, ANY team we face is gonna be an up hill road.
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They beat the Lions at home and almost lost to the mediocre Titans after falling behind 20-3 on the road. The Falcons aren't a very good road team for the most part. Seattle scored 28 on them in Seattle. I think we win this game, but it will be a close one.
 
Vinny said:
They beat the Lions at home and almost lost to the mediocre Titans after falling behind 20-3 on the road. The Falcons aren't a very good road team for the most part. Seattle scored 28 on them in Seattle. I think we win this game, but it will be a close one.
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I would love it if Yates does enough to beat Atlanta. If he does, in his first ever NFL start, then at that time I would begin to have hope again for the playoffs lasting more than one game.
 
Vinny said:
They beat the Lions at home and almost lost to the mediocre Titans after falling behind 20-3 on the road. The Falcons aren't a very good road team for the most part. Seattle scored 28 on them in Seattle. I think we win this game, but it will be a close one.
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Vinny your optimism this year has been scary but accurate so I'm staying on your side.
 
TexansFanatic said:
The Texans may have to throw it quite a bit more than they'd like to, especially since the Falcons will almost certainly be stacking the box and daring Yates to beat them with his arm.

The Falcons passing defense is ranked 25th.

I'd love nothing more than to see TJ pick on our good old buddy Dunta......
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Ok, I get that they have the second ranked rushing defense in the league BUT....

When their pass defense is ranked that much lower than the rushing side that begs the question "Are they that good or are teams just not running on them because they're too easy to pass against?" It's a pass first league for the most part. All we've been hearing about all year is how the Texans are running more than everyone else. Atlanta hasn't faced a running game like ours yet.

This past week they got a typical Chris Johnson effort from Tennessee (he sucked). The week before that Pierre Thomas averaged 4.8 a carry against them. The week before that they had their Colts bye week so no threat of being run or passed on there. In week 8 they were idle. In week 7 the Lions had Williams pick up 4.9 a carry and Morris 5.6

They aren't that great against the run. I think it's a statistical illusion. They're just easier to pick apart with the pass. I predict Foster & Tate will get it done and Yates will have an unexpectedly comfortable first start.
 
Hervoyel said:
Ok, I get that they have the second ranked rushing defense in the league BUT....

When their pass defense is ranked that much lower than the rushing side that begs the question "Are they that good or are teams just not running on them because they're too easy to pass against?" It's a pass first league for the most part. All we've been hearing about all year is how the Texans are running more than everyone else. Atlanta hasn't faced a running game like ours yet.

This past week they got a typical Chris Johnson effort from Tennessee (he sucked). The week before that Pierre Thomas averaged 4.8 a carry against them. The week before that they had their Colts bye week so no threat of being run or passed on there. In week 8 they were idle. In week 7 the Lions had Williams pick up 4.9 a carry and Morris 5.6

They aren't that great against the run. I think it's a statistical illusion. They're just easier to pick apart with the pass. I predict Foster & Tate will get it done and Yates will have an unexpectedly comfortable first start.
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yep, its almost like being afraid of the Browns since they have a highly ranked passing defense. No offense to the Browns (ironic since the Browns have no offense:) but teams run at will on them. Did the Browns passing defense lead them to victory over us? nah....we won 30-12
 
Thorn said:
Atlanta has only beaten two over 500 teams this year, Detroit and Tennessee. If Schaub was the QB, I'd say Atlanta isn't a problem. Given the current situation, ANY team we face is gonna be an up hill road.
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We've only beaten two over .500 teams, Pittsburgh & Tennessee.
 
I'm with Herv.

Taken a step further, Atlanta has only faced 1 team who can compare to Houstons rushing attack. Chicago in week 1, who didn't really utilize Forte for the first 4 or 5 games like they should. Any other team they've faced, either has a sub-par run game OR their passing attack is simply their strength. Or they Suck and Atlanta gets a quick lead and teams simply have to throw.
Atlanta's ranking is inflated.

Additionally, Atlanta has no pass rush to speak of. They kind of remind me of Houston a couple of years ago.(poor dunta...lol). Remember how Houston last year would let QB's like McNabb or Gradkowski look like Pro-bowlers?

TJ will be fine.
 
El Tejano said:
I think the matchup we have to look at in the pass game is not our WR vs. Their CBs but out TE vs. their LBs. Don't know much about that match up but OD and Dreesen are having some good seasons. Anyone know about their LBs? Does ATL run a 3-4?[/QUOTE]

They run a 4-3 according to their depth chart on their web page at NFL.com.
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_superMario90_ said:
I'm with Herv.

Taken a step further, Atlanta has only faced 1 team who can compare to Houstons rushing attack. Chicago in week 1, who didn't really utilize Forte for the first 4 or 5 games like they should. Any other team they've faced, either has a sub-par run game OR their passing attack is simply their strength. Or they Suck and Atlanta gets a quick lead and teams simply have to throw.
Atlanta's ranking is inflated.

Additionally, Atlanta has no pass rush to speak of. They kind of remind me of Houston a couple of years ago.(poor dunta...lol). Remember how Houston last year would let QB's like McNabb or Gradkowski look like Pro-bowlers?

TJ will be fine.
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Somehow they managed to get 4 last week.:thinking:
 
For those of you who think Atlanta's run defense is an illusion, I'd suggest you reconsider. They are stout against the run. They have a decent DLine with strong DEs. Better pass rushers than against the run, but the Falcons' LBers are among the most athletic, sideline to sideline, in the league. They defend space very well - they gave Sproles fits all game long and really handled the Saints screen game, which is generally considered one of our strengths.

In our game this year, Atlanta tackled very well - very disciplined and showed good form. I was impressed.

I think, though, the Texans can run on them - and I hope that's the case. It's a stronger running game than we have in NO, but at #8, the Saints' rushing attack is no slouch. Thomas, Sproles, and Ingram along with our OLine has performed well, especially in recent weeks.

And it was tough sledding that game.

Nevertheless, Texans have a stronger running game and should (I hope) have more success - you have the personnel and talent to do so. I just don't know that it's a gimme, nor do I think you're giving enough credit to Atlanta's front 7.

As for the poster fearing Julio Jones vs. KJ - I know KJ is given a rough time around here, but JJ isn't a worldbeater yet and he doesn't have a QB that can really stretch the field to take advantage of the speed JJ has.

Matt Ryan is an overrated QB with a pretty weak arm who isn't all that accurate and/or confident deep down the field. He's got a TE that he leans on a lot.

And Turner is a legit runner.

The defense will be challenged in the middle of the field in short-to-medium distance.

It's gonna be a close game, but I believe (and hope) y'all pull it out.
 
Doppelganger said:
NOT AT ALL. DR is a dirty player that leads with his head. I would rather not see Dre get hurt becuase of that POS.
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If that's the case, a majority of the NFL is dirty. Form tackling went out the window years ago. It's all about the big hit now, which unfortunately, has lead to head first hitting.
 
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