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FIRE Casserly Riot!

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SESupergenius

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If Capers gets a Fire Club sticky, I think the Riots over Casserly needing to be fired should be one too. I'll start it, I've even made an avatar.

Thing is, all this was pointed out well before the 1st down of preseason, so really, how much of this is on Capers?? We knew well before hand that our defense was going to suffer, that our offensive line didn't change for the better, and that our system is just arcaic.

All aboard!!!!!
 
Great One said:
I wish there was an avatar for both. I think we have the momentum with the Fire Capers Club, but I am with you on the Cass front as well.
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Can I use your also?
 
I'm not ready to give up on Charlie Casserly. He's one of the more respected GMs in the NFL, and he is an expert on salary cap management.

I say we replace the coaching staff, and if certain trends continue, then perhaps CC will be the next target of our wrath.

But Casserly doesn't coach or call plays, and that is where the root of our problem is, IMO.
 
I'm on board with the club, though I wish I could join the fire Capers one as well.

It's time for Charley ("Heath Shuler") Casserly to get the boot.

The coaching is horrible, but so is the talent. That's all on Casserly.
 
SESupergenius said:
If Capers gets a Fire Club sticky, I think the Riots over Casserly needing to be fired should be one too. I'll start it, I've even made an avatar.

Thing is, all this was pointed out well before the 1st down of preseason, so really, how much of this is on Capers?? We knew well before hand that our defense was going to suffer, that our offensive line didn't change for the better, and that our system is just arcaic.

All aboard!!!!!
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Good concept (I think we should fire them all and start it all over myself)...but they will both come down tonight (as far as stickies)...I was going to take down the other one today sometime anyhoo fwiw
 
Double Barrel said:
I'm not ready to give up on Charlie Casserly. He's one of the more respected GMs in the NFL, and he is an expert on salary cap management.

I say we replace the coaching staff, and if certain trends continue, then perhaps CC will be the next target of our wrath.

But Casserly doesn't coach or call plays, and that is where the root of our problem is, IMO.
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I'm with ya on that view DB... can't quite be against Casserly yet, I guess mainly as I've heard more positive things about him prior to Texans and the respect he has from multiple sources. Capers, eh - not so much.
 
Get those refineries ready for full production, the front office may go up in a blaze of futility with the amount of gasoline we are pouring on this train wreck.
 
I am not taking a stance on Casserly just yet. I do find it amusing, however, that people keep mentioning Heath Shuler in connection to Casserly. You do know that, in addition to Shuler, he also picked eight of the starters on defense for that Redskins SB team, right? As far as the Redskins should be concerned, he hit more than he missed.

For OUR team, which is all I am concerned about, his track record is not so great yet. I don't know enough just yet to responsibly claim that Casserly is the problem. I do know that we drafted players that other teams showed just as much interest in - yet we've failed to develop them. If that happens a couple times, you say the player was a bust. If it happens consistently, you have to start looking at development through coaching.
 
I am more for this than the Capers thing. That is why I put Casserly on the right of my avatar as the "dumber".
 
I'm on the fence on this one. I don't think Casserly is to blame for as much as fans think he's responsible for. I do think he's responsible for some risky moves like drafting Ragone when we had much more pressing needs for a 1st day pick. The Henson deal ended up netting a 3rd so it evens out somewhat. If Casserly is directly responsible for pulling the Babin or the Buchanon trades then he needs to go. I just don't think he was.

Either way, you won't find me shedding a tear if Casserly loses his job. We need a change and no change could be too big for this club.
 
Man yall need to be at the games with these signs. The front office needs to know that losing will not be acceptable.
 
You know you also got to remember that guys like Kenny Wright were let go. That dude is starting in Jville and was a more than serviceable back up that could've been a great starter.
 
El Tejano said:
You know you also got to remember that guys like Kenny Wright were let go. That dude is starting in Jville and was a more than serviceable back up that could've been a great starter.
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...And of course other guys like Marlon Mcree, who had 2 INTs this week, Steve Foley, James Posey yadda yadda yadda yadda..
 
Yes great post fire them all, Charlie first, his half sideways glasses on channel 13 licking the salt off the wounds needs to be fired. He always states we need to play better, need to execute, whatever he need's the boot. He can go lick the wounds somewhere else.
 
Exascor said:
I'm on the fence on this one. I don't think Casserly is to blame for as much as fans think he's responsible for. I do think he's responsible for some risky moves like drafting Ragone when we had much more pressing needs for a 1st day pick. The Henson deal ended up netting a 3rd so it evens out somewhat. If Casserly is directly responsible for pulling the Babin or the Buchanon trades then he needs to go. I just don't think he was.

Either way, you won't find me shedding a tear if Casserly loses his job. We need a change and no change could be too big for this club.
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Once in for all the Babin trade. How can you blame Casserly think about this if the Texans would have beaten San. D. (Loss loss because of fumbles)Green Bay (last second field goal) Lions (100yard kick return) and Cleveland everyone here would be saying how great he is.we would have been in the playoffs last year. Casserly did the right thing he made it possible to win, last year. Capers let him down.
 
Vinny said:
Wright sure looked good last night. :challenge :bag:
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Yes I liked Wright a lot. Him coming over here as the nickel was the perfect spot after being a starter for the Vikes. What gets me is that I presumed we let him go because of his injury and was a casualty because of that. But then that didn't make sense because there are several guys on our team that were like that (Joppru, Hollings, Payne, Walker etc...) We are really missing 2 solid guys on our defensive coverage, Glenn and Wright. Faggins couldn't beat out Wright and now he's starting. Nice. I would have loved for Casserly to have had Buchanon as the replacement for Wright, but then that blew up in his face. Very nice...again.
 
johnboy said:
Once in for all the Babin trade. How can you blame Casserly think about this if the Texans would have beaten San. D. (Loss loss because of fumbles)Green Bay (last second field goal) Lions (100yard kick return) and Cleveland everyone here would be saying how great he is.we would have been in the playoffs last year. Casserly did the right thing he made it possible to win, last year. Capers let him down.
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We had an up and coming team then we decide to let go of veteran players, get no impact Free Agents and our draft was not good. That is where we messed up. We had the opportunity to pick up a few players in the off season and draft impact players that start. Instead we are looking to find ourselves again with all the positional changes on defense and our offense was not upgraded.
 
Fire The Spinmeister! Charlie's time has past. The talent on this team is terrible. Vince Lombardi couldn't win with this bunch.

Last brilliant move of Casserly....Chester Pitts signed to a long term deal. Are you kidding me!

Break out the Bags at Reliant. Booing with a bag on your head can be fun. :bag:
 
:tv: I'm curious about CC . I'm not sure when he took over for Bobby Beathard ... but it was in the 90's . A Beathard led Chargers team went to the 95 Super Bowl .
 
Double Barrel said:
I'm not ready to give up on Charlie Casserly. He's one of the more respected GMs in the NFL, and he is an expert on salary cap management.

I say we replace the coaching staff, and if certain trends continue, then perhaps CC will be the next target of our wrath.

But Casserly doesn't coach or call plays, and that is where the root of our problem is, IMO.
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Not only that, but Capers and his staff, including the scouts, tell him who they want to get. Its up to Casserly then to fill his requests which is what has, was, and is happening. Wand and BJ were Capers requests based on his Senior Bowl analysis. Hollings was also a Capers request. He wanted his vaunted running game which has never materialized because of a lack of an O-line.

Casserly is as much a victum as anyone else in this debacle...........
 
Count me in. I'm now in two clubs. I can't keep up with this. Is their a club organizer for sale on Ebay or something? Since I am running for Treasurer in my other club, I will let someone else have that. Is the Hair Club for men still open? I want to not only be a member, but also the President. :goodnight
 
Well, here is a pic I found of our new "Master at Arms" Porky handing out some much needed discipline over at the "Fire Capers Club". If he handles his duties as Treasurer with half the dedication and enthusiasm that he's shown in his old job then I'm sure he'll be a big success.

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I've seen more negative things with Casserly than I have Capers. To put it in perspective, some people think that Casserly ran a good ship in Washington. Well Jimmy Johnson ran a good ship in Dallas, didn't do so well in Miami. Casserly isn't doing so well here.
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
:tv: I'm curious about CC . I'm not sure when he took over for Bobby Beathard ... but it was in the 90's . A Beathard led Chargers team went to the 95 Super Bowl .
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Beathard was GM in Washington from 1978 to 1989. During that time the 'Skins played in four Super Bowls and won three. The Casserly Super Bowl there was the 1991 season.

Their Pro Bowlers in '91 were Mark Schlereth, Earnest Byner, Gary Clark, Darrel Green, Jim Lachey, Charles Mann, and Mark RYpien, all of whom were there in Beathard's last year in '89.
 
I say this CLUB is the best club to join, since Capers' fate is already sealed.

and Casserly is just as much to blame if not more.

He must go.
 
SESupergenius said:
Who is the best free agent that Casserly has picked up?
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That's easy--pro-bowler Steve Foley. Of course the coaches didn't know what to do with him.

For still on the team--Armstrong. Of course the coaches don't know what to do with him.

Hmmm, seeing a trend here.
 
infantrycak said:
That's easy--pro-bowler Steve Foley. Of course the coaches didn't know what to do with him.

For still on the team--Armstrong. Of course the coaches don't know what to do with him.

Hmmm, seeing a trend here.
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Well he's got to play for us, not what he does after he leaves here. What ever happend to Kent?
 
SESupergenius said:
Who is the best free agent that Casserly has picked up?
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Kailee Wong? Maybe Moran Norris? At least they've played reasonably well for the Texans.

Casserly earns no brownie points for Foley. Steve was just another guy he picked off waivers. Foley did jack here. Maybe it was on the coaches, but Marvin Lewis cut him, as well. Credit Marty & Wade for turning Foley into a pro bowler.
 
Lewis wanted faster outside linebackers and Foley was more of a tweener as he reshaped that defense.
 
I remember coming down to Houston for the Atlanta game. I remember coming away thinking that Foley was a good player. If Peek was not in the wings then I'd say he would have had a chance here. What I don't get is that Foreman was better than Foley???
 
Sign me up! I've given in. Toniu Fonoti for a 7th to the Vikings? Imagine that! A team that has had o-line problems picking up someone to fix them. Brilliant!
 
Seriously, I don't care if Fonoti never plays a down again in this league with a finger injury, but you've got to at least take a chance on him when all it costs you is a 6th rounder at most.
 
Why did we not make a move on this guy? He is a huge player, and even if he doesnt try hard, is most likely better than a lot of our players. Plus he's 24!!

"Fonoti, 24, is a 6-4, 350-pound mauler who is scheduled to be a free agent after the season. He's expected to be one of the better guards on the market.

He's been sidelined in the past month because of hand surgery and is about a week away from playing.

He was a second-round choice of the Chargers in 2002. "

AHH!!! They got him for a 7th round pick!!! Our 7th round pick didn't even make the team!
 
throwANDREtheBALL said:
I say this CLUB is the best club to join, since Capers' fate is already sealed.

and Casserly is just as much to blame if not more.

He must go.
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I was over at houstonprofootball.com and read there was talk that Cass was considering a NFL office job.

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eriadoc said:
I am not taking a stance on Casserly just yet. I do find it amusing, however, that people keep mentioning Heath Shuler in connection to Casserly. You do know that, in addition to Shuler, he also picked eight of the starters on defense for that Redskins SB team, right? As far as the Redskins should be concerned, he hit more than he missed.

For OUR team, which is all I am concerned about, his track record is not so great yet. I don't know enough just yet to responsibly claim that Casserly is the problem. I do know that we drafted players that other teams showed just as much interest in - yet we've failed to develop them. If that happens a couple times, you say the player was a bust. If it happens consistently, you have to start looking at development through coaching.
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Me thinks you hit the nail on the head. Coaching is responsible for bringing out the best of the players abilities. Obviously, they have failed.
 
I am finally aboard that we have to totally clear house after having to watch that game in Seattlle. Cass, Capers and the staff (Hoke maybe stays) all must go. We need to wipe this chapter in Texans history clean as it never happened. That team played with no desire, no leadership, no fire. I cannot watch that lack of effort any longer.

We need a total change of attitude and personnel. I am all for bringing in low cost players to get rid of the high cost baggage we have. Call it what you will, but I will go through salary cap hell to right this wrong rather than watch this disaster. I can handle losses, but not these type of non competitive losses.
 
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