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Leinart and Schaub had dinner Monday; Leinart flew to Cali for the week

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HOUSTON -- Matt Leinart had a quick chat with Andre Johnson before leaving the Texans' locker room on Tuesday to catch a flight home to Southern California.

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Leinart had dinner with Schaub on Monday night to go over details and try to make the transition as seamless as possible. Leinart also made Schaub a promise.

"I told Matt that I was going to make him proud and just win games for this team," Leinart said, "because he got us to this point."

Given how the Texans have run the ball and shut down opponents over the past month, Leinart doesn't feel as if he has to do anything miraculous.

"It's important for me not to feel like I have everything to put on my shoulders, and just go out there and manage the game," Leinart said. "You look at the numbers in the last couple of games, Matt (Schaub) has just gotten us into the right plays, and he's thrown the ball here and there, and we've won the games the old-fashioned way.

"That's all I'm asked to do, and I'm excited about that opportunity."

Houston signed Leinart as a free agent just before the 2010 season, ending the former Southern Cal star's stormy tenure in Arizona. Leinart, a former Heisman Trophy winner, was drafted 10th overall by the Cardinals in 2006, and played in 12 games as a rookie under coach Dennis Green.


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Leinart broke his collarbone in 2007, Kurt Warner took over and Leinart mostly watched from the sideline over the next 2½ seasons. Warner retired after the 2009 season, but Leinart clashed with Arizona coach Ken Whisenhunt and he was released in September 2010.

He didn't take a snap last season, but felt comfortable enough with Kubiak and the offense that he decided to rejoin to the Texans in the offseason.

"This isn't his first rodeo," Schaub said of his replacement. "He's played some football in this league. He knows how to play the quarterback position.

"Our time spent together here over the last year and a half, two years, he's definitely prepared."

Their tutoring has restored some of the confidence he lost in Arizona.

"I've been around the league for a while," Leinart said. "Obviously, I haven't had a lot of playing time, but I've been around this game, I've played with some great quarterbacks, I've been on some winning teams. I understand what that takes, I understand what it takes to lead a football team."
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Didn't see it posted, but... Leinart flying home for the bye week? :mcnugget:
 
thats all fine in good lienart but there will be times were we are on the road a hostile crowd 4th qtr 1:32 mins left and ur going to have to drive us down the field throwing the ball .............. i hope i dont see that but if that does happen thats when we will know
 
mirage said:
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Didn't see it posted, but... Leinart flying home for the bye week? :mcnugget:
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The Texans are not practicing (like most teams) during the bye week. If I am not mistaken, all of the players are off until sunday or next Monday.
 
ArlingtonTexan said:
The Texans are not practicing (like most teams) during the bye week. If I am not mistaken, all of the players are off until sunday or next Monday.
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Fair... but I would have been happier to hear that he, andre, and arian moved into Kubes' house for the bye week to prep... :evil:
 
ArlingtonTexan said:
The Texans are not practicing (like most teams) during the bye week. If I am not mistaken, all of the players are off until sunday or next Monday.
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I don't think they are allowed to host practices during the BYE but I am not certain. I do know the new CBA rules allow teams to hold two padded practices after the BYE week. I hope the Kubiak will take advantage of this opportunity to get Leinart up to speed.
 
ArlingtonTexan said:
The Texans are not practicing (like most teams) during the bye week. If I am not mistaken, all of the players are off until sunday or next Monday.
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NitroGSXR said:
I don't think they are allowed to host practices during the BYE but I am not certain. I do know the new CBA rules allow teams to hold two padded practices after the BYE week. I hope the Kubiak will take advantage of this opportunity to get Leinart up to speed.
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League rules mandate that they must have four consecutive days off during the bye .... so they cant practice.


Edit: Didnt see your post Sam.
 
Corrosion said:
League rules mandate that they must have four consecutive days off during the bye .... so they cant practice.


Edit: Didnt see your post Sam.
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The Texans can't hold "official" or mandatory practices, it doesn't mean that Kubiak, Dennison, Leinart, AJ, OD, Walter, Jones, etc... can't get together off the Texans grounds and work out on their own. When practices do start Leinart needs to be coming in an hour early and staying an hour late every day. Fans would like to know that he's doing everything possible to get up to speed.
 
Wolf6151 said:
When practices do start Leinart needs to be coming in an hour early and staying an hour late every day. Fans would like to know that he's doing everything possible to get up to speed.
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ESPN was talking about how Leinart's already been doing that since he's been here even with a healthy Schaub, especially in the film room
 
The Cush said:
ESPN was talking about how Leinart's already been doing that since he's been here even with a healthy Schaub, especially in the film room
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Matt Schaub made the comment on 610 yesterday that Matt L has been showing up with him at 6am everyday to study film, and go over things they need to know. They boy should be prepared, that's his job!! Time will tell if all this preparation will pay off. I believe it will!
 
I think "down time" is very important and Leinert gettin out of town and back home to SCal for a break for a few days is a positive move. I think the game in Jacksonville would have been a tough game even with Shaub still healthy and what's important is that Leinert be rested (physically and psycholicaly), and ready for a 6 game series plus hopefully one or more playoff games.
 
Wolf6151 said:
The Texans can't hold "official" or mandatory practices, it doesn't mean that Kubiak, Dennison, Leinart, AJ, OD, Walter, Jones, etc... can't get together off the Texans grounds and work out on their own. When practices do start Leinart needs to be coming in an hour early and staying an hour late every day. Fans would like to know that he's doing everything possible to get up to speed.
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Aah, give 'em the 4 days off. Sometimes getting away for a short break is a good and healthy thing. Maybe Leinart will especially benefit from being home and hearing family and friends' words of encouragement, then getting back to work with a somewhat refreshed feel about things.
 
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Who knows, perhaps it's more a problem for JAX than for us, they'll have to prepare for another QB with different tendencies. Most of their tape is 2 years old.
 
Regardless of how much preparation he has been doing, he hasn't been out there against a live defense in a game situation in a long time. Here's to hoping they throw everything at him next week in practice to help him knock off the rust. Time to break out 1 of the 14 full practices allowed by the new CBA.
 
Hardcore Texan said:
Regardless of how much preparation he has been doing, he hasn't been out there against a live defense in a game situation in a long time. Here's to hoping they throw everything at him next week in practice to help him knock off the rust. Time to break out 1 of the 14 full practices allowed by the new CBA.
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They have already had 11 padded practices as mandated by the league. 11 of those 14 practices must be before week 11 (one per week). It is only after the BYE that they are allowed to have two in one week but they are not required to have two. It is left to their discrection.
 
SheTexan said:
Matt Schaub made the comment on 610 yesterday that Matt L has been showing up with him at 6am everyday to study film, and go over things they need to know. They boy should be prepared, that's his job!! Time will tell if all this preparation will pay off. I believe it will!
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That's awesome. It is hard to take Kubes' enthusiasm as a resounding endorsement (see: KJax and Okoye in years past lol), but this 6am thing makes me feel better about it. Someone mentioned it in another thread, but seeing how the O-Line adjusts (factoring in a different blind side and maybe more runs going the other way?) will be interesting for sure.
 
NitroGSXR said:
They have already had 11 padded practices as mandated by the league. 11 of those 14 practices must be before week 11 (one per week). It is only after the BYE that they are allowed to have two in one week but they are not required to have two. It is left to their discrection.
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Interesting, I knew they had already did some of them but didn't the exact time table on them, thanks for posting. I wonder if they will use at least one next week? I'd assume so, leaving only two more for the year. He needs to practice against "live bullets" IMO.
 
Hardcore Texan said:
Interesting, I knew they had already did some of them but didn't the exact time table on them, thanks for posting. I wonder if they will use at least one next week? I'd assume so, leaving only two more for the year. He needs to practice against "live bullets" IMO.
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Seeing that they will have had a week off, a padded practice at that point might be a good thing...

Maybe spread the other ones out and keep one on the back burner if we show up flat one week...
 
If Kubiak can turn Lienart into a good QB, he will be revered as one of the greatest QB coaches in the NFL. Although, he couldn't fix David Carr, so who knows...
 
TexCanada said:
He p..p..p..p..promised? I hope that was the media's word and not his, because it is really hard to play QB with tears in your eyes.
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:vincepalm: that didn't even make sense. Why would he have tears in his eyes after promising not to F up the season Schaub has started?

Sure he's made promises without tears. Maybe you're just a "sensitive" kind of guy...
 
Dutchrudder said:
If Kubiak can turn Lienart into a good QB, he will be revered as one of the greatest QB coaches in the NFL. Although, he couldn't fix David Carr, so who knows...
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GOD himself couldn't fix David Carr. Can't fix someone who wasn't willing to fix themselves ie, showing up at 6 am to watch film, work ethic, thinking his dad was a better QB coach than the one he had....
 
BullNation4Life said:
:vincepalm: that didn't even make sense. Why would he have tears in his eyes after promising not to F up the season Schaub has started?

Sure he's made promises without tears. Maybe you're just a "sensitive" kind of guy...
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It was a joke. The wording of that part of the article made it sound like a sappy love story, instead of a guy who has matured and is ready to take over a football team. Promises are meaningless, it's the on-field stuff that counts.
 
ArlingtonTexan said:
The Texans are not practicing (like most teams) during the bye week. If I am not mistaken, all of the players are off until sunday or next Monday.
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They had their team meeting Monday, then individual work-outs & rehab yesterday.

You are correct, they will be off from now until Monday
 
Dutchrudder said:
If Kubiak can turn Lienart into a good QB, he will be revered as one of the greatest QB coaches in the NFL. Although, he couldn't fix David Carr, so who knows...
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Big difference.

I don't know that Kubiak couldn't "fix" Carr, but definitely not in the time frame he had to work with. Carr was beaten down & needed time off the field to get his head right.

Matt's been sitting around for 3 years, behind Kurt Warner & Matt Schaub.

Plus we have a team that David Carr would probably flourish on had he came straight out of college.
 
TexCanada said:
It was a joke. The wording of that part of the article made it sound like a sappy love story, instead of a guy who has matured and is ready to take over a football team. Promises are meaningless, it's the on-field stuff that counts.
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Well I promise next time I'll take your post as a joke...:crying:

*tear* You complete me Mini Me...
 
IDEXAN said:
I think "down time" is very important and Leinert gettin out of town and back home to SCal for a break for a few days is a positive move. I think the game in Jacksonville would have been a tough game even with Shaub still healthy and what's important is that Leinert be rested (physically and psycholicaly), and ready for a 6 game series plus hopefully one or more playoff games.
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Showtime100 said:
Aah, give 'em the 4 days off. Sometimes getting away for a short break is a good and healthy thing. Maybe Leinart will especially benefit from being home and hearing family and friends' words of encouragement, then getting back to work with a somewhat refreshed feel about things.
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This is exactly right. This week they can't practice. That's the way the rules work. The last thing he needs to be doing is sitting around obsessing over this game during a week when he really can't do much to prepare for it beyond individual work/study. He should unwind, hang out with his family & friends and hear all that encouragement from a bunch of people who no-doubt genuinely believe in him and know he'll succeed.

Then come back recharged and start working with his teammates on beating the cats in the litter box.




On an unrelated side-note I was changing my cats litter box last night. We put the plastic box in a big heavy black contractor bag and then push the bag down into the plastic box. Then we pour the litter in on top of it. This makes changing it very easy because you just pull the bag off inside out and get everything in one pass. It also makes my cats litter box look exactly like it's ringed in black tarps. The resemblance to EverBank Field* is uncanny.


*That's what they're calling it this week I guess.
 
You need time to rest. He hasn't been playing, but he has been at it all year and it isn't an easy life. Recharge and get us to the promised land.
 
Was this, like, a candlelight Matt & Matt dinner???

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Dutchrudder said:
If Kubiak can turn Lienart into a good QB, he will be revered as one of the greatest QB coaches in the NFL. Although, he couldn't fix David Carr, so who knows...
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I think David Carr was broken when Kubiak arrived. He had poor work habits, was not a student of the game, and was not dedicated to intense film study. These are all things that he has admitted to after he left here.

I give Kubiak a pass on Carr because it was McNair's condition for getting the job. And besides, he had Carr in good enough shape to help us finally beat the [eventual Super Bowl champion] Colts for the first time in franchise history.
 
Double Barrel said:
I think David Carr was broken when Kubiak arrived. He had poor work habits, was not a student of the game, and was not dedicated to intense film study. These are all things that he has admitted to after he left here.

I give Kubiak a pass on Carr because it was McNair's condition for getting the job. And besides, he had Carr in good enough shape to help us finally beat the [eventual Super Bowl champion] Colts for the first time in franchise history.
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Sounds like the same things Leinart said about his time in Arizona. What makes Leinart not "broken" now? I have a terrible feeling about this. I sense a train barreling into rush hour pedestrian traffic.

Matt Leinart AKA the left-handed David Carr.
 
NitroGSXR said:
Sounds like the same things Leinart said about his time in Arizona. What makes Leinart not "broken" now? I have a terrible feeling about this. I sense a train barreling into rush hour pedestrian traffic.

Matt Leinart AKA the left-handed David Carr.
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On NFLN Kurt Warner had said that Lienart had already matured from that stage before Kurt left.

The speculation is that Wisenhunt & Lienart clashed for some unknown reason.

& the last three weeks should make it clear we won't be asking him to do the same things he was asked to do in Arizona. All they had, was Warner, Fitz, & Darnell Docket. We've got a legit running game, a legit defense, a legit OL, & a legit H.O.F. WR.

David Carr would shine on this team.
 
thunderkyss said:
On NFLN Kurt Warner had said that Lienart had already matured from that stage before Kurt left.

The speculation is that Wisenhunt & Lienart clashed for some unknown reason.

& the last three weeks should make it clear we won't be asking him to do the same things he was asked to do in Arizona. All they had, was Warner, Fitz, & Darnell Docket. We've got a legit running game, a legit defense, a legit OL, & a legit H.O.F. WR.

David Carr would shine on this team.
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**** me to tears! You say some whacked crap sometimes, TK, but this takes the cake.
 
thunderkyss said:
On NFLN Kurt Warner had said that Lienart had already matured from that stage before Kurt left.

The speculation is that Wisenhunt & Lienart clashed for some unknown reason.

& the last three weeks should make it clear we won't be asking him to do the same things he was asked to do in Arizona. All they had, was Warner, Fitz, & Darnell Docket. We've got a legit running game, a legit defense, a legit OL, & a legit H.O.F. WR.

David Carr would shine on this team.
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Carr had a legit defense with Glenn and Payne. He had the same HOF WR that Schaub has now. Domanick Davis was no schlub when he broke out. Things were rocking in 2004.

Also, I don't think the Texans badmouthed Carr when he left.
 
NitroGSXR said:
Carr had a legit defense with Glenn and Payne. He had the same HOF WR that Schaub has now. Domanick Davis was no schlub when he broke out. Things were rocking in 2004.
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He also had "great" offensive minds like The Dominator and Joe freaking Pendry.
 
HOU-TEX said:
**** me to tears! You say some whacked crap sometimes, TK, but this takes the cake.
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It might be whacked crap but I have to say I agree with him for the most part. To the extent that David Carr was capable of shining he would shine on this team. Everything any college QB might need to be successful is here.

If you look at it objectively with Andre Johnson returning this actually IS that mythical team where everything else is working perfectly that Carr needed to be successful.
 
Hervoyel said:
It might be whacked crap but I have to say I agree with him for the most part. To the extent that David Carr was capable of shining he would shine on this team. Everything any college QB might need to be successful is here.

If you look at it objectively with Andre Johnson returning this actually IS that mythical team where everything else is working perfectly that Carr needed to be successful.
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First, let me say, I just nut checked myself due to hitting the reply button knowing I was going to talk about this dude.

Anywho, I don't think he was ever smart enough to run an offense like this to the extent it's been run. He never really took the time to study the position to the extent most QBs do.

Now, there might be a slim chance he'd do ok if he was given the opportunity today *gag me with a spoon*. I mean, you'd think he's learned something after 10 years, right?
 
Dutchrudder said:
If Kubiak can turn Lienart into a good QB, he will be revered as one of the greatest QB coaches in the NFL. Although, he couldn't fix David Carr, so who knows...
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Huh? Why would he be considered that? Leinart was never a complete slouch. Wisenhunt gave up way to early on him and just didn't like him from the start. Leinart played alright when he first started. Kubiak got Schaub and Schaub had looked pretty good from the jump, but Kubes hasn't done anything with any other QB's here so lets back off of that greatest QB coach in the NFL stuff for a second. He didn't make Grossman, Dan O, or Carr look good at all. He thought he could, and wasn't able to do so. Leinart isn't near as bad as people have made him out to be over the years and I've been very happy to have him as our back up. He won't have to do a whole lot most likely and will manage games more than he'll have to carry an offense.

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Plus we have a team that David Carr would probably flourish on had he came straight out of college.
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I've wondered about you at times, but this is just downright crazy. Just about as crazy as how you stated that Slaton had his best season as a Texan last year.
 
Texecutioner said:
Kubiak got Schaub and Schaub had looked pretty good from the jump, but Kubes hasn't done anything with any other QB's here so lets back off of that greatest QB coach in the NFL stuff for a second. He didn't make Grossman, Dan O, or Carr look good at all.
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Orlovsky had zero attempts in the regular season and Grossman had nine. Neither was ever being considered as a starting QB. C'mon. Kubiak coached QB's have had very good success. Typically the best of their careers. And we should be wishing for that with Leinart.

Hervoyel said:
It might be whacked crap but I have to say I agree with him for the most part. To the extent that David Carr was capable of shining he would shine on this team. Everything any college QB might need to be successful is here.

If you look at it objectively with Andre Johnson returning this actually IS that mythical team where everything else is working perfectly that Carr needed to be successful.
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Yes DC would be more successful than he was but it isn't solely about the team around him (nor is it solely about the QB). Carr couldn't see the middle of the field, with all sorts of mobility (the anti-Schaub) he had no pocket presence, he couldn't make the kind of line calls Kubiak's system requires, etc. He just was so poor he limited any team around him.
 
Hervoyel said:
It might be whacked crap but I have to say I agree with him for the most part. To the extent that David Carr was capable of shining he would shine on this team. Everything any college QB might need to be successful is here.

If you look at it objectively with Andre Johnson returning this actually IS that mythical team where everything else is working perfectly that Carr needed to be successful.
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Trent Dilfer is David Carr's best friend (for real). I think if Carr had been drafted by an established team, sat on the bench and forced to learn how to be a functional NFL QB, I think he could have had the potential to be Dilfer-like on a team that had everything else going for it (meaning manage a game and don't make mistakes).

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Massive HWNMNBM violations, here. :kitten:
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We have moved beyond that now...or, at least some of us have moved beyond living in that past.
 
So...he had dinner Monday....and flew to spend time with his son out in California...good for him....
And he will be in here ready to go 6am Monday......
 
Link: What he's been doing

“He has spent a lot of extra time working on our drops and our progressions,” Knapp said. “What we believe is so important is the way our footwork is tied in with our progressions. That’s what we spend a lot of extra time on.

"As far as the classroom goes, he is definitely one of the sharpest guys I’ve worked with… Matt’s very studious about knowing his progressions with the reads based on the coverages he’s getting.”
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