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Patriots release cornerback Leigh Bodden

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Patriots release cornerback Leigh Bodden, according to a league source.


Texans pick him up please

Bodden graded out as above average as a part-time starter this season,
according to Pro Football Focus.
ProFootbalFocus ProFootballFocus.com
Bodden thrown at 22 times this year. Allowed 12 recs, 1 TD. Has 4 PDs. Played 222 snaps for the Patriots

McCourty has allowed 35 of 52 and 4 TDs, has 3 PDs. Arrington allowed 14 of 27 with 1 TD and 1 PD, but has 4 INTs too
 
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Patriots release cornerback Leigh Bodden, according to a league source.


Texans pick him up please

Let's see.... The New England Patriots has the worse (not one of, but the worse) passing defense in the league..... set to break records... They release a CB...

& you want to pick up said CB.


hmmmmm....
 
Let's see.... The New England Patriots has the worse (not one of, but the worse) passing defense in the league..... set to break records... They release a CB...

& you want to pick up said CB.


hmmmmm....

Bodden graded out as above average as a part-time starter this season,
according to Pro Football Focus.

yes he is better than any of our CBs other than JJ
 
Now would be a good time to get him so that he doesn't pull what he did last time. Or maybe we just give him the finger this time.
 
Remember that embarassing period in Texans history when we all begged him via twitter to join our horrible team and then he spurned us and went somewhere else?

I hope he can't find anywhere else to work and is forced to retire. Good riddance
 
Or bring him in for a workout, and make him think we are going to sign him, then at the last second say fukoff. :D

Thats the NFL yes he used the Texans before but the Texans could use him now. Pick up bodden cut KJ. I would be happy. Never happen but I can dream lol.
 
I don't know if I'd bring him in...

Kareem plays ok he just has a bad tendency to get beat deep...Is Bodden better at defending the deep ball?
 
It's a damn sign if Chris Harris and Leigh Bodden are both on the market for the Texans to pick up. But just our luck, we're going to stick with our garbage and continue to not get help for JJ.
 
Bodden graded out as above average as a part-time starter this season,
according to Pro Football Focus.

ProFootbalFocus ProFootballFocus.com
Bodden thrown at 22 times this year. Allowed 12 recs, 1 TD. Has 4 PDs. Played 222 snaps for the Patriots

McCourty has allowed 35 of 52 and 4 TDs, has 3 PDs. Arrington allowed 14 of 27 with 1 TD and 1 PD, but has 4 INTs too

By far their best cover CB this year RT @ProFootballTalk
 
I dont care what happened in the past. Sign him and put him opposite JoJo.

His salary is only 2 mill against the cap, we have the room.
 
per PFT
Simultaneous to a report of the move by Profootballtalk.com, Patriots beat writers asked coach Bill Belichick for a comment on Bodden's play this season. Belichick's response: "I think we'll skip that one right now." The move is especially surprising given that Ras-I Dowling (hip) was downgraded to a missed practice on Thursday, suggesting an injury setback. Re-signed to a four-year, $22 million contract in 2010, Bodden had battled injuries this season but still graded out above average in coverage according to Pro Football Focus

I know he used us for leverage to get his new deal with the Pats, but do we look past that now and try to re-spark the old flame?
 
Yeah he has to go through waivers.

Players with 4 or more years of service don't go through the waiver wire - their contract terminates immediately, and they are free to negotiate with any team that shows an interest. Bodden is in his 8th season in the NFL.
 
Antwan Molden is seeing the field for the Pats still isn't he? Hard to see how he's lost his place on the team to that guy.

Bodden did wind up on IR last year and reports that he's had injuries again this year don't fill me with confidence.

That said, the pre-injury Bodden would make a helluva good CB2 if he could re-find that form.
 
Not sure what the problem was. He's thirty years old. Maybe he's just hit the wall.

I'd at least work him out and see what's what.
 
bring him in, but there should be no rush to get him to the field b/c we're ok without him. That will allow him to get healthy & learn the system. Then we could break him out for the stretch run/playoffs.
 
Bodden graded out as above average as a part-time starter this season,
according to Pro Football Focus.

ProFootbalFocus ProFootballFocus.com
Bodden thrown at 22 times this year. Allowed 12 recs, 1 TD. Has 4 PDs. Played 222 snaps for the Patriots

McCourty has allowed 35 of 52 and 4 TDs, has 3 PDs. Arrington allowed 14 of 27 with 1 TD and 1 PD, but has 4 INTs too

By far their best cover CB this year RT @ProFootballTalk
So why was he the one to get the boot?
 
So why was he the one to get the boot?

The pats run a tight ship. Its likely b/c his play didn't warrant his salary b/c of injuries & the fact that they probably weren't that much better with him. What are they #32 in pass defense this year? can't get any worse than that, might as well trot a rookie / unproven guy with potential out there for some OJT.
 
The pats run a tight ship. Its likely b/c his play didn't warrant his salary b/c of injuries & the fact that they probably weren't that much better with him. What are they #32 in pass defense this year? can't get any worse than that, might as well trot a rookie / unproven guy with potential out there for some OJT.

He may very well have been that message we wanted to send to our secondary last year.

"Don't do your job, you'll get fired..... we can't get much worse"
 
Patriots over paid to keep Bodden who is the desperate one? now they want to cut their losses or is the guy not the same player anymore after his injury? too many questions & poor track record :toropalm:
 
He does not have to go through waivers (too veteran) and therefore his Patriots contract is irrelevant. Molden has been a special teamer and they kept him.
 
If he is not worth anything to the worst passing defense in the league, why should the Texans sign him?
 
Bodden in his prime was a good player. A solid #2 CB for most teams. But he isn't in his prime anymore and he can't make himself some cereal without getting injured.
 
He does not have to go through waivers (too veteran) and therefore his Patriots contract is irrelevant. Molden has been a special teamer and they kept him.

No waivers, but from what I've read, the Pats are still on the hook for his remaining 2.29 million. If a team were to bring him in they would take over the 2.29.
 
No waivers, but from what I've read, the Pats are still on the hook for his remaining 2.29 million. If a team were to bring him in they would take over the 2.29.

The Pats have to account for any unpaid guaranteed money not the new team. He is on the open market for a new contract at this point.
 
The Pats have to account for any unpaid guaranteed money not the new team. He is on the open market for a new contract at this point.

Ok, coo. I was just parroting Andrew Brandt. He's usually really good on finances and legalities of the NFL.
 
Let's see.... The New England Patriots has the worse (not one of, but the worse) passing defense in the league..... set to break records... They release a CB...

& you want to pick up said CB.


hmmmmm....
Do you really, truly think he's worse in coverage than KJ?
 
Ok, coo. I was just parroting Andrew Brandt. He's usually really good on finances and legalities of the NFL.

PFT.com is also talking about waivers. I don't understand why. Dude is an 8 year vet. Unless there was some unreported change in the new CBA he is an UFA. I wouldn't mind him being brought in if he realizes he doesn't merit a big contract. But I wouldn't expect a second JoJo. He has barely seen the field.
 
He’s played a total of only 93 plays this season, none of them since a Week 2 What's really funny is that Antuwan Molden is now expected to get in there more often for the Pats.:shades:
 
PFT.com is also talking about waivers. I don't understand why. Dude is an 8 year vet. Unless there was some unreported change in the new CBA he is an UFA. I wouldn't mind him being brought in if he realizes he doesn't merit a big contract. But I wouldn't expect a second JoJo. He has barely seen the field.

NFP attributed it to the trade deadline passing.

Bodden signed a four-year deal with the Patriots last season, and because the trade deadline has passed, he will be subject to waivers.

Not exactly sure why that's the rule, but it does appear he's going through waivers.

LINK
 
They are quoting PFT.com and I think they are wrong. Welcome to have it disproven.

From ARTICLE 29 Section 1 of the recently signed CBA:

Whenever a player who has finished the season in which his fourth year of credited service has been earned under the Bert Bell/Pete Rozelle Plan is placed on waivers between February 1 and the trading deadline, his contract will be considered terminated and the player will be completely free at any time thereafter to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with any Club, and any Club shall be completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with such player...
...If the waivers occur after that time, the player’s Player Contract will be subject to the waiver system and may be awarded to a claiming Club.

To my surprise (and apparently yours too) this is the same provision the preceding CBA included.

Link to new CBA (See page 155)

Link to previous CBA (See page 79)
 
My question is, does he fit in Wade's defense. Last time we were wanting him it was for Bush's defense. Does Wade think he's good enough?
 
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Patriots release cornerback Leigh Bodden, according to a league source.


Texans pick him up please

Bodden graded out as above average as a part-time starter this season,
according to Pro Football Focus.
ProFootbalFocus ProFootballFocus.com
Bodden thrown at 22 times this year. Allowed 12 recs, 1 TD. Has 4 PDs. Played 222 snaps for the Patriots

McCourty has allowed 35 of 52 and 4 TDs, has 3 PDs. Arrington allowed 14 of 27 with 1 TD and 1 PD, but has 4 INTs too

Don't matter what Bodden graded out to, he can't stay on the field and this team already has enough injury problems...
 
He automatically upgrades our secondary, sign him please. He was the Pats best corner but probably didn't justify the large salary he was making. He is miles better than K-burnt and Allen and you can get him on the cheap. This is a no-brainer!
 
He automatically upgrades our secondary, sign him please. He was the Pats best corner but probably didn't justify the large salary he was making. He is miles better than K-burnt and Allen and you can get him on the cheap. This is a no-brainer!

"He was the Pats best corner but probably didn't justify the large salary he was making."

What? Did you read this out loud before you hit submit? We've got 100M contracts on starting CBs in this league & you think Bodden was making too much to stay through the season? They just signed him (away from us) last season.

He's only started one game all season. Surely their best CB would have started more than one game.

Last year, when Kj was part of the worst pass defense in the league, was he, or was he not part of that defense? Did he, or did he not deserve some of the blame? Other than Bodden not starting but 1 game, why would that not hold true for Leigh Bodden?

This year, Kj is part of the 6th best pass defense in the league. Does he deserve any credit (blame) for that?

There are just too many questions if you ask me, it's not like New England has two All-pro Corners & Bodden can't get on the field (like NyJets)... & we're talking about Bill "I'll lie to my momma" Bellichick.

I'm all for making this a better team. But despite Kj & Allen's obvious flaws, they are doing things more right than not & just adding more bodies doesn't guarantee it's going to get better.

If Wade had questions, I can understand signing someone & having him ready just in case, but right now, I wouldn't change a thing.
:koolaid:
 
Bodden graded out as above average as a part-time starter this season,
according to Pro Football Focus.

ProFootbalFocus ProFootballFocus.com
Bodden thrown at 22 times this year. Allowed 12 recs, 1 TD. Has 4 PDs. Played 222 snaps for the Patriots

McCourty has allowed 35 of 52 and 4 TDs, has 3 PDs. Arrington allowed 14 of 27 with 1 TD and 1 PD, but has 4 INTs too

By far their best cover CB this year RT @ProFootballTalk
Note to Rey, "your assuming" about what I said regarding McCourty is confirmed both by numbers/analysis by an independent party and my observations.

You can definitely trust that I don't pull things out of thin air.
 
Let's see.... The New England Patriots has the worse (not one of, but the worse) passing defense in the league..... set to break records... They release a CB...

& you want to pick up said CB.


hmmmmm....

Patriots have made bad roster moves before.

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I pulled this out of a story, maybe cutting Bodden was a scheme thing.


On defense, the philosophical change has been less transparent. The coaching staff scrapped the man-defense experiment, choosing to go back to the more familiar zone defense.

The results have been astounding.

Not that the Patriots defense is all of the sudden one of the league's best. In fact, they remain last in the NFL in yards allowed per game.

But to anyone who has been watching this season, however, the secondary has improved immensely, especially regarding the deep pass.

At the beginning of the year—specifically against the Buffalo Bills—there were way too many long passes being converted against the Pats' young, inexperienced secondary. Many times, the defense would be in a cover-one defense, matching up Devin McCourty, Leigh Bodden, Kyle Arrington and Ras-I Dowling in a man-to-man coverage, while safety Patrick Chung provided help in the deep-middle part of the field.

What was the result?

The Pats' cornerbacks were torched along the sidelines, giving up huge chunks of yardage without any resistance. With the implementation of a zone defense, they are not only giving up fewer big plays, they are getting off the field on third downs.
Last season, the Pats were hellacious on third down situations, allowing almost a 50-percent success rate (last in the NFL). This year, after starting the season amongst the league's worst, the defense is moving towards mediocrity with a 42-percent allowance rate.

Part of moving into the zone defense is a switch from more sub packages (when there are more than four defensive backs on the field, depending on the team) and back into the team's base defense (in this case, a 4-3 defensive front).

This change has also helped the Patriots, because the base defense has been so effective at shutting down opposing running games. Even the Raiders' superb attack with Darren McFadden and the Jets' tough tag-team of Shonn Greene and LaDainian Tomlinson were neutralized.

However, these philosophy changes would have meant nothing if no one stepped up and started making plays.
 
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/football/patriots/view.bg?articleid=1376686&position=active

The Patriots [team stats] pulled a surprise move this morning, releasing veteran CB Leigh Bodden.

The former starter, who was to play the “star” position this year, signed a four-year, $22-million contract before 2010, and he will make $3.9 million from the Pats this year if he’s not claimed.

After spending time in the locker room, it’s clear players were shocked. “I heard it in the meeting and what, whoa. What?” said one defensive starter. That summed it up.

Bodden was respected in the locker room, and he’d had his big games (three picks against the Jets in 2009, for instance). According to ProFootballFocus.com, he allowed 12 receptions and one touchdown with four passes defended in 222 snaps this season.

But why was he released?

First of all, it doesn’t sound like Bodden is too broken up about this, though I haven’t talked to him personally. From talking to those around him, he seems at peace. It is a complex move, and no one wants to be released. But Bodden will now have a chance to ply his trade for another team, and he still gets his paycheck. One can understand that.

Bodden battled injuries recently, missing last year with a torn rotator cuff and missing time this year with a thumb injury. He sat out the Raiders game with a groin injury, but when I asked him about it,it sounded more like a coach’s decision. How do I know? Bodden told me with a shrug, “Coach’s decision. I don’t know, man.”

That was the first inkling that something was up. He looked great in the preseason, but wasn’t playing particularly fantastic in the regular season. But that alone wasn’t enough to send him packing.

The disconnect possibly came with Bodden’s role this year. Cornerback Devin McCourty is an outside corner, and it seems either rookie Ras-I Dowling or Kyle Arrington would fill the other spot outside. The team made this move, I’m told, in part because they believed Dowling would be healthy enough to play. And Arrington has been a revelation, grabbing four interceptions.

Bodden didn’t totally embrace the move to the “star” — or slot corner — position, and his lukewarm response was telling. He did it, he didn’t cause trouble, but it was clear he didn’t embrace it. When it was clear Bodden wasn’t thrilled with what he was asked to do, it may have become an issue. If Bodden was going to sit on the bench and not play in the slot, that’s a bad locker room move.

You can’t have a veteran, making a ton of money, sitting on the bench. It runs the risk he’ll complain and be a divisive force. So, Bodden was released to go to a team who may use him differently.

And now, the Patriots move on.
 
I pulled this out of a story, maybe cutting Bodden was a scheme thing.


On defense, the philosophical change has been less transparent. The coaching staff scrapped the man-defense experiment, choosing to go back to the more familiar zone defense.

The results have been astounding.

Not that the Patriots defense is all of the sudden one of the league's best. In fact, they remain last in the NFL in yards allowed per game.

But to anyone who has been watching this season, however, the secondary has improved immensely, especially regarding the deep pass.

At the beginning of the year—specifically against the Buffalo Bills—there were way too many long passes being converted against the Pats' young, inexperienced secondary. Many times, the defense would be in a cover-one defense, matching up Devin McCourty, Leigh Bodden, Kyle Arrington and Ras-I Dowling in a man-to-man coverage, while safety Patrick Chung provided help in the deep-middle part of the field.

What was the result?

The Pats' cornerbacks were torched along the sidelines, giving up huge chunks of yardage without any resistance. With the implementation of a zone defense, they are not only giving up fewer big plays, they are getting off the field on third downs.
Last season, the Pats were hellacious on third down situations, allowing almost a 50-percent success rate (last in the NFL). This year, after starting the season amongst the league's worst, the defense is moving towards mediocrity with a 42-percent allowance rate.

Part of moving into the zone defense is a switch from more sub packages (when there are more than four defensive backs on the field, depending on the team) and back into the team's base defense (in this case, a 4-3 defensive front).

This change has also helped the Patriots, because the base defense has been so effective at shutting down opposing running games. Even the Raiders' superb attack with Darren McFadden and the Jets' tough tag-team of Shonn Greene and LaDainian Tomlinson were neutralized.

However, these philosophy changes would have meant nothing if no one stepped up and started making plays.

Too much noise and contradicting/mix-and-macth infos putting together it's difficult to say what the true points are in this piece.
 
The Patriot don't generate a pass rush and are tied for 3rd to last in total sacks. Bodden might benefit playing in a defense that puts pressure on the QB
 
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