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AlanBurge Barry Warner to Kubiak: "How does Jacoby Jones 'fall asleep' in the endzone (on the last play)" Kubiak 20 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite
Just saw this on the front page:
Mario to I.R. as expected, Casey is day-to-day with a pec strain, did not rule out Andre yet against Baltimore, defended Jacoby Jones' play way too much for my comfort.
Kubiak will not embarrass his players. He called out Jacoby as much as he ever will any of his players. He said he needs to step up. He played 70 plays and won some of the battles, etc... That is about as critical he will ever be in front of the media. Reality is that Jacoby got an earful yesterday and the coaches will be all over him this week.
Mario got to have a pec repair. That will probably take place in the next week. He's done for the season. James Casey is day to day as we move forward. He has a pec strain. McCain should be fine. Our QB got a sore shoulder and thigh bruise. He is day to day as we start the week off.
Briesel ok?
He got an ankle and knee. Got rolled up in a pile. Everything seems more positive today so we'll see where we're at come Wednesday.
Noticing anything with Matt that would cause him to short arm throws or anything like that?
No. Like I said yesterday, anytime you get beat, everybody could do something better. Matt made a heck of a lot of plays yesterday. A lot of good plays. Some he would like to have back. They were aggressive in what they were doing defensively. You'll have ugly plays when being played that way. Key is, do you make big plays to burn the blitzes. We did have a lot of big plays. 9 plays over 20 yards but not enough big ones to win the game. But no, I dont see that. Not just with Matt, I see room for improvement with everybody. I dont see some flaw or something if thats what you're asking.
Andre out this week?
I dont know. As of right now, soreness went away and rehab has picked up so we'll see where he's at each day.
Thoughts on losing Mario and Reed coming in.
I feel bad for Mario. Heck of a player. What we're doing, it will blossom his career from now on. He was improving every day, every practice, every game. Never seen Mario so upbeat on what was going on and to lose him on a freak play. I'm disappointed for Mario. It's tough on the team. Brooks did come in. We played good D all day yesterday. Brooks apart of that. Good opportunity for him to step up and be a starter and thats why we drafted him.
Vickers took the blame after the game yesterday. He didnt make it happen.
Like I always say, we win and lose as a team. He had a chance to make a big play, didnt happen. He'll get a great chance to come back this week if James is unable to go. He'll get his opportunities to help this football team. He played hard. But like I said, we can all do things a little better.
How do you feel about going with him?
He has started in this league. That's why we brought him in. He'll get a lot of work now. He is different from James but I feel confident in him.
Talk about Bryan Brayman
He moves up the depth chart. He can rush the passer. He'll get some D reps which he hasnt been getting. Been playing ST. Another young player getting thrown in the fire so to speak. Expect him to grow up and do some good things real quick.
Moving Nading up from the PS?
We've thought of it but we got a lot of things to look at right now. Got some challenges from a management standpoint as we sit here and have to juggle some things going forward with these injuries. Another challenge as we go into the week. Anyone on the PS is a possibility.
In the 4th Q, Schaub was sacked, facemask on Brisiel and 12 men on the field, what was the explanation to you?
Im wating on it too. I'll let you know.
How much do you weigh what a player tells you on the field as opposed to what they're telling you as far as a challenge goes?
I try to listen to em. I'm listening to them but they gave us plenty of time to look at it. We felt upstairs we never saw the ball hit the ground but with the 2 views on the scoreboard, hard to say will they overturn it or not.
How much more does Jacoby have to step up?
He gotta step up big. He played a lot of plays yesterday. Played 70+ plays. Him and Kevin. We got pressured a lot so a lotta things we were doing was to protect and let him and Kevin go 1 on 1 with their secondary. He's part of the group and group wasnt good enough as a whole but he'll have to step up and make some big plays for us to continue forward. With the ball movement yesterday, there should have been more points on the board, there wasnt.
How did Raiders win the point of attack at the LOS?
Give them credit. They're very good. Their 2 guys on the inside are very good players. They played well. We didnt play as well as we been playing up front. A little of everything. Seemed as a group, we pitched in on making our mistakes or didnt take advantage of the opportunity. Its everyone involved, not just the O-line. It's everyone involved.
Ravens coming off a bye. You're coming off tough loss. Not to mention, they're one of the best in the NFL.
They're exceptional. They're 2nd or 3rd in the league(D) and getting a ton of turnovers. We understand who we're facing. Played 2 tough games back to back here with PIT/OAK. Gotta get my guys fresh and ready to go.
After all these years in the league, how come other than the slant pattern, Jacoby cant run a pattern without rounding it off and running a crisp route and how does he fall asleep in the back of the endzone and not dart and go right back to the corner of the endzone where Matt could have an easy pass to him?
He did run some good routes Barry. We're all involved in getting better. I expect him to get better. Its not just him. Last play- you gotta move and make a play and Matt tried to do that. We had what we wanted, got flushed left, so once flushed, trying to live and make a play. Give them credit, they made the play, they didnt.
It was very easy.
I dont think it was Barry. I think this game is hard. You go out and play hard. Sometimes you make the play, sometimes you dont. Not an excuse. The Raiders made a play, we didnt. It isnt Jacoby's fault.
Why was Allen taking a deep cushion there in 2nd Q?
Right before the half?
Yeah and where he also missed the tackle.
He did give up out few out routes right before the half which was smart to do. We were trying to get the half over and keep them from scoring. You will have softness from that standpoint. We did miss a tackle.
You talked about running under 3 ypc and Schaub less than 50%. What was the problem there? And possibility of Schaub running in on last play? He said no shot because of the safety Branch.
You're right. We didnt run the ball well. Why? Combo of things. Throwing, we're under 50%. We got a lot of pressure yesterday and as I said, when you face what we faced yesterday, it's ok sometimes to throw 50%-55% as long as you're making big plays against the blitz and pressure. We had some big plays throwing the ball. Some big plays but not enough. I look back, we had 14-6 lead, ran what we call a slammer screen to Kevin, caught the blitz, had a chance to go to the house,.guy makes a shoestring tackle. Thats the type of game we were in. We needed to make a couple of those plays and we didnt. Last play, we're working the right side of the field, got a play going on over there, which is exactly what we wanted, the rush flushed him left, and when he went left, the first thing I think Matt thought of is I am going to try and score here. He started downhill and here comes a safety. He gotta make a decision. Do I think he could score? Probably not. He gotta make that decision though. Hes the QB. When he knew he couldnt, he had to do something with the ball-the game is over.
Talk about what Walter and Dreessen did.
Kevin played well. 70+ football plays. PLayed very well. Joel played well. OD/Arian made big plays. We had a lot of big offensive plays and ball movement but needed more points-7/10 more points.. When you get beat, you do good stuff but as a group, not good enough.
Does Barwin move to Mario's spot and his role going forward?
Barwin playing a big role all the time. He's playing well. Thats an option we have. We'll make that decision moving forward. Kinda like offensively, gotta replace Andre with a group, we gotta replace Mario with a group of good linebackers, not just one guy.
Is Jacoby suppose to catch a punt going backwards at the 5 yard line?
If its that guy punting, its ok. This guy hit some 60 yard punts and stuff so.. If he hits a bomb like that, coverage is not there, I dont mind him trying to make a play. I want him to stay aggressive. If they're punting from the 50, which that team doesnt do because that kicker is pretty darn good, then its a different story. All depends on the situation.
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Yeah, a little late with it but oh well. And no problem.
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Is Jacoby suppose to catch a punt going backwards at the 5 yard line?
If its that guy punting, its ok. This guy hit some 60 yard punts and stuff so.. If he hits a bomb like that, coverage is not there, I dont mind him trying to make a play. I want him to stay aggressive. If they're punting from the 50, which that team doesnt do because that kicker is pretty darn good, then its a different story. All depends on the situation.
yeah, that was a dumb response. It reminds me of when Casserly was defending Carr. He'd look everyone in the eye and say that QB's looking off defenders was overrated.What do you mean, "If it's that guy punting, it's ok?". Everything - including your first clause - makes no friggin sense.
So, how about if Andre Johnson is bangin' your wife, Kubes? So, if it's, "...that guy screwing, it's ok.". Because you want him to "stay aggresive?"
Oh well, I just don't see the logic. But, Andre, keep cutting her meat, because, it "All depends on the situation."
Thanks, Kubes, for making the Houston Texans the biggest dry hump in pro football.
yeah, that was a dumb response. It reminds me of when Casserly was defending Carr. He'd look everyone in the eye and say that QB's looking off defenders was overrated.
Jones also looked like he was going to chunk the ball across the field on his last Kickoff reception if you replay it. I was thinking, 'who the heck told him to do that'? Ball security is pretty much football 101 at this important juncture of the game. Did he do that on his own, or was that the plan? If that was the plan to fake it and put that ball out there in the most important part of the game instead of just tucking it away securely, it was an awful, foolish idea. Another 'smartest guy in the room' cutesypie decision that really drives me to dislike the mentality of the Kubiak regime. They don't think like winners if that is their idea of how to 'close out games'.I was thinking he said that because of the way his punts tend to bounce back toward the play. I still agree with you, pretty lame response given it goes against rule of thumb 1) don't fair catch inside the 10, and 2) DON'T OVER-THE-SHOULDER FAIR CATCH INSIDE THE TEN!!
What do you mean, "If it's that guy punting, it's ok?". Everything - including your first clause - makes no friggin sense.
So, how about if Andre Johnson is bangin' your wife, Kubes? So, if it's, "...that guy screwing, it's ok.". Because you want him to "stay aggresive?"
Oh well, I just don't see the logic. But, Andre, keep cutting her meat, because, it "All depends on the situation."
Thanks, Kubes, for making the Houston Texans the biggest dry hump in pro football.
Jones was catching the ball over his shoulder while moving backwards at the 4. If the ball has backspin we get it further away from the goal line. If it doesn't, we get it on the 20. Jones pretty much made an awful call and instead of the Coach just saying that was a dumbass move, he just aw-shucks it and tries to make his decision look like it's a decent one in the face of the facts and logic. Someone has to put their foot down and tell it like it is...but that someone isn't Kubiak it seems.I will say it was the best punter in the NFL, maybe of all time. Guess there was a fear of it sticking to the ground and being downed at the 1. I kind of get it.
Jones was catching the ball over his shoulder while moving backwards at the 4. If the ball has backspin we get it further away from the goal line. If it doesn't, we get it on the 20. Jones pretty much made an awful call and instead of the Coach just saying that was a dumbass move, he just aw-shucks it and tries to make his decision look like it's a decent one in the face of the facts and logic. Someone has to put their foot down and tell it like it is...but that someone isn't Kubiak it seems.
What do you mean, "If it's that guy punting, it's ok?". Everything - including your first clause - makes no friggin sense.
So, how about if Andre Johnson is bangin' your wife, Kubes? So, if it's, "...that guy screwing, it's ok.". Because you want him to "stay aggresive?"
Oh well, I just don't see the logic. But, Andre, keep cutting her meat, because, it "All depends on the situation."
Thanks, Kubes, for making the Houston Texans the biggest dry hump in pro football.
you also don't do that inside your 5 catching the ball over your shoulder. It really doesn't matter who punts the ball. The biggest problem here is condoning the decision. I'd respect Kubiak more if he just called this decision what it was. A bad one.What he is saying is that Shane Lechler (from Sealy), "that guy", is the best punter in the NFL; however, he at times hits some boomers and he out-kicks his coverage. That was Kube's point. If JJ thinks the punt from Lech sets up bad return coverage by the Raiders, he wanted JJ to be aggressive and try and break one. Against a guy who kicks 40 yard punts, you wouldn't do that.
Jones pretty much made an awful call and instead of the Coach just saying that was a dumbass move, he just aw-shucks it and tries to make his decision look like it's a decent one in the face of the facts and logic. Someone has to put their foot down and tell it like it is...but that someone isn't Kubiak it seems.
I'll take Kubes at his word. He thinks it was a smart play.
I'll take Kubes at his word. He thinks it was a smart play.
Glad to hear Kubiak elaborate about Kareem and the coachs reasoning on playing him instead of Allen. And interesting to hear him say that that long pass to Bolden wasn't on KJ, but instead a breakdown by one of the safetys.
Glad to hear Kubiak elaborate about Kareem and the coachs reasoning on playing him instead of Allen. And interesting to hear him say that that long pass to Bolden wasn't on KJ, but instead a breakdown by one of the safetys.
The long play to Bolden was on Joseph, Kareem was nowhere near that one. He was talking about the big play to Smith. Even if it was Manning's play, it showed that Kareem has no closing speed, no make up speed. The phrase, if he's even, he's leavin applies to anyone covered by KJ. If he can't keep his player in front of him, the pass rush has got to get there, or he's in trouble.
OK sounds like I had the 2 plays confused. Thanks for straightening me out.The long play to Bolden was on Joseph, Kareem was nowhere near that one. He was talking about the big play to Smith. Even if it was Manning's play, it showed that Kareem has no closing speed, no make up speed. The phrase, if he's even, he's leavin applies to anyone covered by KJ. If he can't keep his player in front of him, the pass rush has got to get there, or he's in trouble.
The long play to Bolden was on Joseph, Kareem was nowhere near that one. He was talking about the big play to Smith. Even if it was Manning's play, it showed that Kareem has no closing speed, no make up speed. The phrase, if he's even, he's leavin applies to anyone covered by KJ. If he can't keep his player in front of him, the pass rush has got to get there, or he's in trouble.
I think Kubiak is trying to protect his player.
It's like anytime he gets burned or "appears to get burned" the safety was supposed to be over the top.
I don't understand that. Might as well just assign a safety to Kareem because he obviously can't defend those kind of plays....ever...
It was Manning's job to HELP but that's still Kareem's man and it still happens every single game he plays. If it was once a month (like Joseph finally giving up a big hit) then it probably wouldn't be as big of a deal.
I honestly believe he would make a quality safety. He's a physical player right? And he needs at least 10 yards of cushion so just go ahead and move him back. Quin is the same type, to slow for CB and his physicality shines at S.
Ugh. I'm just really, really tired of seeing it and talking about it.
I think Kubiak was being pretty honest. Heck, Manning is his player too. Why throw one under the bus & not the other.
Because throwing Kjax under the bus makes him one step closer to being a bust.
And I didn't see him throw Manning under the bus...He was pretty vague really...
There was only one other player it could have been.
It was Manning's job to HELP but that's still Kareem's man and it still happens every single game he plays. If it was once a month (like Joseph finally giving up a big hit) then it probably wouldn't be as big of a deal.
Kubes said Manning had a leg contusion but not when he got it and that may have effected the play of the safety.It was pretty obvious that Manning screwed up. He's making a habit of it already. It started against the Saints in the preseason.
Joseph just mistimed the other one. Although he probably would have been flagged if Boldin didn't catch it anyway.
The problem with the pass rush was that it was almost all scheme. Wade was able to get guys free at the beginning but it was shored up. Guys weren't coming unblocked in the 2nd half. When it mattered, guys couldn't beat blocks 1 on 1. The Texans miss Mario in the nickle with his hand down, when he did most of his damage.
Kubes said Manning had a leg contusion but not when he got it and that may have effected the play of the safety.
OK sounds like I had the 2 plays confused. Thanks for straightening me out.
But it does seem that KJ lacks that all-important long-speed you'd want your corner to possess,
even though he knocked out a sub 4.5 40 at the Combine in Indy.
No, it could have been that the other safety was supposed to drop back into the middle of the field.
It could have been a blown coverage call pre snap.
Or it could have been that KJ just got roasted...again...
if you watch the tape, NOBODY was on that TE, so there was another busted assignment on this play...I think it was the mlb. He's just sitting there staring into the backfield with the TE wide open behind him. If Manning stayed deep, that TE gets the pass underneath and likely scores. The mike should get some blame also.a leg contusion makes him run forward to cover to TE running a crossing route when he's supposed to have deep responsibility?
In another word, entertain us as to how you come up with each of those scenarios.
So exactly how many HUGE plays are we talking about here?LB's could have been in middle zone. Manning could have been Man to man. Quin may have been the cover 1 guy over the top of the play but either didn't do his job correctly or didn't didn't get the right call.
If Kareem is playing cover 4 he should have reacted to the out route and Manning should have been running with the receiver that caught-dropped the ball.
But besides that, I don't claim to know exactly what happened on any given play. I threw a bunch of stuff out there because I realize that there are many different possible reasons for a bad play happening. It doesn't have to be on one or two guys and sometimes you will just never know unless you are in the locker room with those guys.
What I do know though, is that Kareem is often involved in huge plays being given up and just about never makes big plays for the defense.