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Kubiaks Demise.

EllisUnit

EllisUnit

Vote RED!!!
Conservative. In the 1st half we have a shot for a 48 yard field goal, and we punt, we had the ball 3 and 1 2 times in their territory and we punt. We are so predictable on play calling it gets a little disturbing at times.

I like Kubiak and what he can do with an offense, BUT to never take any risks, to never go for it and to just go pure flat on playing and play calling is unexcusable.

and these refs are being slightly biased.
 
Not sure where Kubiak gets the reputation of being an offensive genius. This half has been absolutely pathetic, even taking into accout not having Andre. The defense has been pretty shabby as well.
 
EllisUnit said:
I like Kubiak and what he can do with an offense, BUT to never take any risks, to never go for it and to just go pure flat on playing and play calling is unexcusable.
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You just perfectly described the Kubiak philosophy in the 2nd half when leading at halftime -- "play not to lose". That's a good way to get beat in the NFL. You can justify "playing not to lose" in the Indy game, but when the game is still close you should not be deviating from your first half game plan. But Gary Kubiak teams almost always do. This is, by *far*, my greatest criticism of his coaching and if he could overcome this tendency I think he'd be a very good one.
 
I long for the day we finally fire this piece of ****. I have never wanted to see someone lose their job so bad in my entire life. Offensive genius my ass.

Kubiak is a fraud that got his name because of Mike Shanahan, Steve Young, and John Elway. Without those guys, Kubiak would be a nobody.
 
Ckw said:
I long for the day we finally fire this piece of ****. I have never wanted to see someone lose their job so bad in my entire life. Offensive genius my ass.
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I don't think it's that he can't coach an offense per se. I think it's a matter of ripping out all the higher risk/higher reward plays from the playbook when "nursing" a second half lead. (The type of plays that helped them to a strong first half.) By now every head coach and DC in the NFL knows the type of conservative game Kubes will call in such a situation, and they can pin their ears back and concentrate on stopping that stuff.
 
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ziggy29 said:
I don't think it's that he can't coach an offense per se. I think it's a matter of ripping out all the higher risk/higher reward plays from the playbook when "nursing" a second half lead. (The type of plays that helped them to a strong first half.) By now every head coach and DC in the NFL knows the type of conservative game Kubes will call in such a situation, and they can pin their ears back and concentrate on stopping that stuff.
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This. I think Kubiak knows how to design good offensive plays, but he doesn't know how to manage a game.
 
ziggy29 said:
I don't think it's that he can't coach an offense per se. I think it's a matter of ripping out all the higher risk/higher reward plays from the playbook when "nursing" a second half lead. (The type of plays that helped them to a strong first half.) By now every head coach and DC in the NFL knows the type of conservative game Kubes will call in such a situation, and they can pin their ears back and concentrate on stopping that stuff.
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Which is why I say he can't coach an offense. If defensive coordinators are figuring him out this easily, then he is far from an offensive genius.

You can't be this predictable and be considered a good NFL coach.
 
Why would Kubes' job be in danger? He is the same as he's always been. He may get an extension this week. :)
 
Ckw said:
I long for the day we finally fire this piece of ****. I have never wanted to see someone lose their job so bad in my entire life. Offensive genius my ass.

Kubiak is a fraud that got his name because of Mike Shanahan, Steve Young, and John Elway. Without those guys, Kubiak would be a nobody.
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I've been saying this for years when people have proclaimed this guy as this offensive guru of the league. He's been a great stat guy from a yard standpoint with his offenses, but has never been a great game day decision coach in my eyes and his teams always seem to lack that killer instinct. If the Texans lose they're still 3-2 at least for now though. The season isn't in jeapordy just yet.
 
Texecutioner said:
If the Texans lose they're still 3-2 at least for now though. The season isn't in jeapordy just yet.
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At least since all the other teams in the division already lost. But what a possibly squandered opportunity to gain ground, unless this team can pull out a highly improbable finish.
 
Texecutioner said:
I've been saying this for years when people have proclaimed this guy as this offensive guru of the league. He's been a great stat guy from a yard standpoint with his offenses, but has never been a great game day decision coach in my eyes and his teams always seem to lack that killer instinct. If the Texans lose they're still 3-2 at least for now though. The season isn't in jeapordy just yet.
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He's the Wade Phillips of offense. We have two good coordinators on the team. Unfortunately one is the head coach.
 
TexanSam said:
He's the Wade Phillips of offense. We have two good coordinators on the team. Unfortunately one is the head coach.
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Yep, but Wade can at least say that he's head coached a team that went 13-3 and achieved a bye in the playoffs first round and also coached an 11-5 team that went to the 2nd round of the playoffs before. Kubiak hasn't came close to anything like that as HC. I think this season we'll do no worse than 10-6 though. I'm not to worried at this stage just yet.
 
Dude panicked while the team was down only 8, with more than ten
minutes to play. He just stopped running the ball, and decided
to pass-scheme the team to victory. He costs the team at least
two wins a year.

Today was #1.
 
tedr said:
Not sure where Kubiak gets the reputation of being an offensive genius. This half has been absolutely pathetic, even taking into accout not having Andre. The defense has been pretty shabby as well.
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Two Super Bowls rings as a play caller (yes he was calling the plays for Shanny Sr) say otherwise. But then again, don't let the facts get int he way of a good moan ;)
 
We couldn't run the ball. Tried for 3 quarters. Their defensive line outplayed our offensive line. That's why we lost..... period!
 
If the ball was thrown more in front of receivers rather than behind them, might have been a different outcome.
 
Al Davis died, and "just win baby" was Al's swansong.

So, the Texans got their stats, because fans love to see
what their offensive/defensive rank is. Kubiak was so nice
to give the Raiders a "win."

Most Texans fans don't care much about those, right?
 
i would have called a screen on that last play. Foster is our best weapon u need to go to him in the clutch, our just a quick pass over the middle to foster. But no hell no shaub throws a pick, that was one crazy ass game. I am gonna die really young because of this team.
 
Kubiak is great at drawing up those cute plays like the Dreesen touchdown. That was a great play-call that resulted in a TD.

However, that is all that he is good at.
 
TexCanada said:
Kubiak is great at drawing up those cute plays like the Dreesen touchdown. That was a great play-call that resulted in a TD.

However, that is all that he is good at.
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And it's not a call he'd ever make late in a close game. That's part of the problem.
 
I broke my rule. I came into this game expecting the Texans to win. Expecting them to lose is my defense mechanism--armor for my heart, a balm for my throat. I must not abandon it again.
 
It wasn't playcalling that lost this game. In fact, the short pass attempt to Vickers was genius, if the bum would just catch the ball.

Our D would be the best in the business with another GOOD CB.

Our offense's pass blocking is not as good (in the middle) as it's been getting credit for.
 
DexmanC said:
Dude panicked while the team was down only 8, with more than ten
minutes to play. He just stopped running the ball, and decided
to pass-scheme the team to victory. He costs the team at least
two wins a year.

Today was #1.
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Huh? The running game was non existent. You think it was all of sudden going to appear?
 
We have 5+ years of evidence as to Gary's coaching. Why anyone would think he would suddenly become anything more than an average coach is puzzling.
 
Ranger Tom said:
I broke my rule. I came into this game expecting the Texans to win. Expecting them to lose is my defense mechanism--armor for my heart, a balm for my throat. I must not abandon it again.
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agree man i swear one day i am just gonna fall over dead because of this team.
 
Kubiak's playcalling was not very good today. However, the execution by Schaub, the OL, and Jacoby Jones was awful. JUST AWFUL.
 
yeh just watched the last play like 15 times raiders played awesome D no one open schaub chased by a lb JJ making the wro g cut, daniels did not cut back. .... just bad on us good on them..... sux ass....
 
ziggy29 said:
Seems huge. But really, if it were 25-23 instead of 25-20, I don't think the Raiders defense plays that soft almost all the way down to the goal line, knowing it only took an FG to beat them.
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that would of cost them as well let foster have a lil open field he would of got us into range, out the coaching staff would of tried 4 hail marys, so yeah i'm sure we woulda messed it up.
 
Teh thing is Foster isnt that good and we cant run teh football when we want 2
 
ziggy29 said:
Yeah, but I still part of that "execution fail" is on the coaching staff.
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The coaches arent the ones throwing right at the OL and letting the ball get tipped. The coaches arent the ones dropping easy catches or not running proper routes. The coaches aren't the ones fumbling snaps and being shitty blockers.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
The coaches arent the ones throwing right at the OL and letting the ball get tipped. The coaches arent the ones dropping easy catches or not running proper routes. The coaches aren't the ones fumbling snaps and being shitty blockers.
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But teh coaches are calling the dreaded

Run run Pass in teh 3rd qtr

All week long they say stay on sechudle and avoid 3rd and long WELL THEY ARE ALWAYS IN 3rd in long !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
TheMatrix31 said:
The coaches arent the ones throwing right at the OL and letting the ball get tipped. The coaches arent the ones dropping easy catches or not running proper routes. The coaches aren't the ones fumbling snaps and being shitty blockers.
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NO but in the 1st half we had a shot at a 48 yard field goal and we punted, i would like to hear kubiaks explanation on that, but the later we attempt a 54 yarder ????
 
TheMatrix31 said:
The coaches arent the ones throwing right at the OL and letting the ball get tipped. The coaches arent the ones dropping easy catches or not running proper routes. The coaches aren't the ones fumbling snaps and being shitty blockers.
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The coaches are the ones who have to teach execution. Of the ones you mentioned, the tipped balls, running routes and blocking poorly are *all* aspects of team execution that fall heavily on the coaching staff. And having a predictable game-calling scheme that defenses know to expect (especially predictable in the second half with Kubiak teams) doesn't make it easier for the players to execute, either.

You can't really "coach" good hands as much as the others, but you still have the bench as an option. (Admittedly harder to do when thin at WR, but still.)
 
another 2nd half collapse by the texans.

if the same thing keeps happening you should start to look in the direction of coaching.
 
Playcalling was a massive, frustrating issue with coaching today. Horrible play by the players, however, is not. I don't buy it. The players have executed before, but not today. It happens.
 
DexmanC said:
Al Davis died, and "just win baby" was Al's swansong.

So, the Texans got their stats, because fans love to see
what their offensive/defensive rank is. Kubiak was so nice
to give the Raiders a "win."

Most Texans fans don't care much about those, right?
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I was just telling someone the other day that Texans fans, for some reason, seem to settle on stats instead of wins. It's our wall that we have hidden behind.
 
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