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since we took Kubes from Denver we have had trouble punching in the endzone of our opponents. Is it because Gary calls all the plays and calls the formations or does Schaub have the authority to change the play at the line of scrimage. Are the Texans hands tied to the coach in the red zone. I understand that the blocking schemes have to be precise to work and when they do I could be the running back. Bt just like this last game seems we threw out the run for the pass.

I am just asking cause we have several years of this same problem and it is not anything to do with the Defense, except that they got very tired after several 3 and outs at the end of the game.

Does anybody hold Gary accountable or is it always the offence or defense and the coach is excused.
 
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I think it has a lot to do with the blocking scheme. There's less room to work their synchronicity as a unit. They aren't big enough to get the push.

However, I'm going to wait until Foster's back in the back field before I panic too much. Dude can find seams that others can't. 16 TD's ain't too shabby either
 
Just a guess but if it is a run play the FB will block and the RB handles the ball. I know the QB can keep but that is rare for Texans. If it is a pass, ball can go to WR or TE (3-4 options rather than one). Also if the Qb runs laterally, he can dart toward the goal line, drawing the defense to him thereby reducing the defenders in area of the target. In the past, I think many fans would just as soon see a pass to AJ, Walter or Daniel than a handoff to RB.
 
Joe Texan said:
since we took Kubes from Denver we have had trouble punching in the endzone of our opponents. Is it because Gary calls all the plays and calls the formations or does Schaub have the authority to change the play at the line of scrimage. Are the Texans hands tied to the coach in the red zone. I understand that the blocking schemes have to be precise to work and when they do I could be the running back. Bt just like this last game seems we threw out the run for the pass.

I am just asking cause we have several years of this same problem and it is not anything to do with the Defense, except that they got very tired after several 3 and outs at the end of the game.

Does anybody hold Gary accountable or is it always the offence or defense and the coach is excused.
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Careful, somebody gonna give you some pink soap if you keep this up.
 
Mr teX said:
If you wanted to speak with Steelbtexan, you should just send him a PM.
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LOL

I will reserve judgement until after Foster is healthy on the RZ efficiency.

Last yr the Texans were good in the RZ. If there's a problem then it's all on Gary. Either by not giving Schaub flexability or even if he does Gary is the one that hand pick Rick Smith and probaby has the last say during the draft and FA.

This is Garys team and like talking about the CB's not playing the defense that was called. The Texans have taken on Garys personality. Garys kids are undisciplened. But they're great kids that try their hardest. Meanwhile after 5.2 yrs of the same crap over and over again. People on this MB are still in Garys corner hoping that this yr is going to be different. (Not gonna happen)

Even though Gary will probably make the playoffs this yr due to being in a ridiciously weak division. BoBBY will give Gary another extention and the fans will still be stuck for yrs with a team that only plays 2qtrs of football for yrs to come. (Worse cas scenario)

The big question is can Gary lead this team to a Lombardi trophy? 5.2 yrs would suggest this isn't going to happen. There's no telling how many more losing/underachieving seasons will have to happen before Gary supporters will see the light. Some probably never will.

Exciting close losses may be good enough for some. But it's all about W/L's for me. Who really believes Gary can lead this team to a SB and is being honest with themselves. All of the wishful thinking/hoping for change is great. But history is what it is and you cant get around these facts. It's all about W/L's not about stats/recognition etc....
 
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HOU-TEX said:
I think it has a lot to do with the blocking scheme. There's less room to work their synchronicity as a unit. They aren't big enough to get the push.

However, I'm going to wait until Foster's back in the back field before I panic too much. Dude can find seams that others can't. 16 TD's ain't too shabby either
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Funny, there was an NFL analyst from Yahoo Sports on 1560 this morning who considers the Texans O-line the best in the League with both the pass and run. He also considers this years Red Zone woes to the absence of AF.
 
Joe Texan said:
since we took Kubes from Denver we have had trouble punching in the endzone of our opponents. Is it because Gary calls all the plays and calls the formations or does Schaub have the authority to change the play at the line of scrimage. Are the Texans hands tied to the coach in the red zone. I understand that the blocking schemes have to be precise to work and when they do I could be the running back. Bt just like this last game seems we threw out the run for the pass.

I am just asking cause we have several years of this same problem and it is not anything to do with the Defense, except that they got very tired after several 3 and outs at the end of the game.

Does anybody hold Gary accountable or is it always the offence or defense and the coach is excused.
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Huh? Giving up 23 points in the final quarter has A LOT to do with defense. And please don't try the 3 and out routine. Remember HWSNBN and his 3 & out woes. That defense never gave up 23 points in the final quarter. In fact, that (past Sunday) was the first time in Texans history IIRC.
 
steelbtexan said:
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I will reserve judgement until after Foster is healthy on the RZ efficiency.

Last yr the Texans were good in the RZ. If there's a problem then it's all on Gary. Either by not giving Schaub flexability or even if he does Gary is the one that hand pick Rick Smith and probaby has the last say during the draft and FA.

This is Garys team and like talking about the CB's not playing the defense that was called. The Texans have taken on Garys personality. Garys kids are undisciplened. But they're great kids that try their hardest. Meanwhile after 5.2 yrs of the same crap over and over again. People on this MB are still in Garys corner hoping that this yr is going to be different. (Not gonna happen)

Even though Gary will probably make the playoffs this yr due to being in a ridiciously weak division. BoBBY will give Gary another extention and the fans will still be stuck for yrs with a team that only plays 2qtrs of football for yrs to come. (Worse cas scenario)

The big question is can Gary lead this team to a Lombardi trophy? 5.2 yrs would suggest this isn't going to happen. There's no telling how many more losing/underachieving seasons will have to happen before Gary supporters will see the light. Some probably never will.

Exciting close losses may be good enough for some. But it's all about W/L's for me. Who really believes Gary can lead this team to a SB and is being honest with themselves. All of the wishful thinking/hoping for chage is great. But history is what it is and you cant get around these facts. It's all about W/L's not about stats/recognition etc....
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Not a lot I would disagree with here. But for now, I've temporarly set aside my Kubiak hate and chose to cheer the Texans on. If there comes a point this season that it looks like all the other seasons Kubiak has brought us, I'll be back pounding on Kubiak's case like there was no tomorrow.

He shouldn't even be here this season, but he is, and I've decieded to live with it for now.
 
I am not canning Gary Just seems to me every year i the same old same old. We got a team that would run a great Mike Leach offense and we have Gary Kubiak who I still cannot figure out what he is doing. And when you go 3 and Out Bill you put the defense back on the feild and Drew Breeze spreads the feild so it wears on a defense. just seems to me that if we are gonna run the run damit. I am mad at the fact that we let a game slip again. If thi is the norm I predict we will not make the playoffs, we need Hope And Change and All I see is the same Old Same Old
 
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steelbtexan said:
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I will reserve judgement until after Foster is healthy on the RZ efficiency.

Last yr the Texans were good in the RZ. If there's a problem then it's all on Gary. Either by not giving Schaub flexability or even if he does Gary is the one that hand pick Rick Smith and probaby has the last say during the draft and FA.

This is Garys team and like talking about the CB's not playing the defense that was called. The Texans have taken on Garys personality. Garys kids are undisciplened. But they're great kids that try their hardest. Meanwhile after 5.2 yrs of the same crap over and over again. People on this MB are still in Garys corner hoping that this yr is going to be different. (Not gonna happen)

Even though Gary will probably make the playoffs this yr due to being in a ridiciously weak division. BoBBY will give Gary another extention and the fans will still be stuck for yrs with a team that only plays 2qtrs of football for yrs to come. (Worse cas scenario)

The big question is can Gary lead this team to a Lombardi trophy? 5.2 yrs would suggest this isn't going to happen. There's no telling how many more losing/underachieving seasons will have to happen before Gary supporters will see the light. Some probably never will.


Exciting close losses may be good enough for some. But it's all about W/L's for me. Who really believes Gary can lead this team to a SB and is being honest with themselves. All of the wishful thinking/hoping for chage is great. But history is what it is and you cant get around these facts. It's all about W/L's not about stats/recognition etc....
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Damn steelb, i almost didn't recognize this post as yours....its too fair & balanced lol.

In all seriousness though, there's not alot i can disagree with, although the bolded & the "superbowl or bust" thing is a rather harsh standard for any coach to be judged by..let alone a coach who hasn't even been to the playoffs.
 
Texan_Bill said:
Funny, there was an NFL analyst from Yahoo Sports on 1560 this morning who considers the Texans O-line the best in the League with both the pass and run. He also considers this years Red Zone woes to the absence of AF.
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I think the Oline's pretty good too. That is, when they have the room to work the stretch plays. There's just too much of a cluster-**** down on the goal line.

I just read LZ's blog and he seems to think Foster might be the answer too. I'm hoping we're all right about that. Although, running from anywhere on the field is going to be difficult this week.
 
To answer one of your questions that it doesn't look like anyone has addressed, Gary DOES NOT let Schaub change the play. When have you ever seen Schaub audible? I sure can't remember a time. If someone knows differently and has some examples, please provide them because by no means am I the authority on the subject.

But as far as I know, the play called by Gary is the play run 100% of the time. I absolutely despise this about Kubes.
 
I think all this Kubiak hate is just so illogical, it's not even funny.

Someone made a comment the other day (forgot who) that there are some here that want to be right about Kubiak more than they want to win.

You know what? I believe that. And that's pretty darn sad.
 
HOU-TEX said:
I think the Oline's pretty good too. That is, when they have the room to work the stretch plays. There's just too much of a cluster-**** down on the goal line.

I just read LZ's blog and he seems to think Foster might be the answer too. I'm hoping we're all right about that. Although, running from anywhere on the field is going to be difficult this week.
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they are pretty good zone blockers, but when you have short space and no longer have to cover the length of the field there are too many people to stretch. You have to man block...gotta man up and blow someone off their mark. That is not this teams strength and that is why Kubiak gets too cute around the goal line at times. Foster's slashing ability masks a classic zone blocking team weakness.
 
I think Kubes sticks to his offensive system a little too much sometimes. He does not creatively use his players and seems to have a tendency to “square peg in a round hole” some potential weapons.

Jacoby and Slaton are good players in space but are used exactly like Kevin Walter and Ben Tate respectively.

Mike Martz seems to be doing the exact same thing in Chicago.
 
Joe Texan said:
I am not canning Gary Just seems to me every year i the same old same old. We got a team that would run a great Mike Leach offense and we have Gary Kubiak who I still cannot figure out what he is doing. And when you go 3 and Out Bill you put the defense back on the feild and Drew Breeze spreads the feild so it wears on a defense. just seems to me that if we are gonna run the run damit. I am mad at the fact that we let a game slip again. If thi is the norm I predict we will not make the playoffs, we need Hope And Change and All I see is the same Old Same Old
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Under the years of HWSNBN, we faced other elite QB's and never collapsed on defense like that. True the offense should've moved the ball more, but also that's when you need to have a defense that can help bail you out and get off the field. This just in, Kareen Jackson is a liabilty on defense. I'm not saying he won't ever be able to play, but it's becoming more and more evident that he would be better suited in a Tampa 2 defense.

Furthermore, while the offense did faulter, they also scored 17 in the second half. Defense gave up 7 in the 3rd and 23 in 4th.
 
Marcus said:
I think all this Kubiak hate is just so illogical, it's not even funny.

Someone made a comment the other day (forgot who) that there are some here that want to be right about Kubiak more than they want to win.

You know what? I believe that. And that's pretty darn sad.
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I get that feeling sometimes, too. I want to be proven wrong about Kubiak. I want to taste the sweet and sour crow dish being served during playoff tailgating. :winky:

Vinny said:
they are pretty good zone blockers, but when you have short space and no longer have to cover the length of the field there are too many people to stretch. You have to man block...gotta man up and blow someone off their mark. That is not this teams strength and that is why Kubiak gets too cute around the goal line at times. Foster's slashing ability masks a classic zone blocking team weakness.
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How does this effect a defense that works out against the zone blocking scheme? I'm just curious if there is any since they don't get to practice against man blocking.
 
Vinny said:
they are pretty good zone blockers, but when you have short space and no longer have to cover the length of the field there are too many people to stretch. You have to man block...gotta man up and blow someone off their mark. That is not this teams strength and that is why Kubiak gets too cute around the goal line at times. Foster's slashing ability masks a classic zone blocking team weakness.
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They decided to give Tate a blow in the red zone several times . They brought in Slaton ... who could run through a banner led buy a 5'2 cheerleader ... who won't run north . It also kinda tells the defense we're gonna pass .

Put Casey in a wildcat before you put Slaton in the RZ .

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/texans/redzone.htm

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/packers/redzone.htm

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/patriots/redzone.htm

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/ravens/redzone.htm
 
Double Barrel said:
I get that feeling sometimes, too. I want to be proven wrong about Kubiak. I want to taste the sweet and sour crow dish being served during playoff tailgating. :winky:



How does this effect a defense that works out against the zone blocking scheme? I'm just curious if there is any since they don't get to practice against man blocking.
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We aren't stout in the middle of the field in any case, with or without seeing a bunch of man blocking in practice. Heck with the watered down practice rules you can only simulate man blocking in shells for the most part. Why the Texans fail to see the logic behind anchoring a dominant big man to be an immovable 2gap eating object in the middle of the field in short yardage and around the goal line is beyond me.
 
Marcus said:
I think all this Kubiak hate is just so illogical, it's not even funny.

Someone made a comment the other day (forgot who) that there are some here that want to be right about Kubiak more than they want to win.

You know what? I believe that. And that's pretty darn sad.
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I don't buy it. Maybe there are a few people like that, but I doubt there are many. I guarantee you most people are just sick of losing and don't care who the head coach is as long as we start winning some football games.

And you think it is illogical to ***** a little bit about, and maybe even hate on, a coach with a 1 and 18 record on the road against teams with eventual winning records? Really?!?
 
Maybe I'm crazy but I don't know why we don't try running the ball with Casey a little bit in the red zone while Foster is out. His run he had on Sunday was pretty dang impressive and he looks like he could blow through some tacklers.
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
They decided to give Tate a blow in the red zone several times . They brought in Slaton ... who could run through a banner led buy a 5'2 cheerleader ... who won't run north . It also kinda tells the defense we're gonna pass .

Put Casey in a wildcat before you put Slaton in the RZ .
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Yeah I'm not sure about the not putting your best RB in during the red zone plays. Slaton is fine if you're doing the pitch...at the 40 yard line.

Kubes had some strange decisions in the RZ, but Schaub also didn't go through his progressions either. He got the ball out far too quickly when he wasn't under pressure.

And why is it that you playaction between the 20s, but not in the RZ? Seems to me that you could easily get them to bite and throw to Tate in the flat.
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
They decided to give Tate a blow in the red zone several times . They brought in Slaton ... who could run through a banner led buy a 5'2 cheerleader ... who won't run north . It also kinda tells the defense we're gonna pass .

Put Casey in a wildcat before you put Slaton in the RZ .
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What? 4 rushes for 8 yards doesn't do it for you?? :kitten: I joke, but there were holes for Slaton.
 
Ckw said:
I don't buy it. Maybe there are a few people like that, but I doubt there are many. I guarantee you most people are just sick of losing and don't care who the head coach is as long as we start winning some football games.

And you think it is illogical to ***** a little bit about, and maybe even hate on, a coach with a 1 and 18 record on the road against teams with eventual winning records? Really?!?
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Exactly. I want nothing more than to see the Texans win a Super Bowl. Houston doesn't have one, and has never been. I don't care who is the head coach, I just want a winner.

And that does NOT keep me from bitching about a head coach who has proven himself to be a loser. Maybe Kubiak changes this year, maybe this year is when he proves all us doubters wrong. Fine, I'd love it it that happens. And I want it to happen, but don't tell me I'd rather hate on Kubiak than see the team win, 'cause that's just plain wrong.
 
hradhak said:
And why is it that you playaction between the 20s, but not in the RZ? Seems to me that you could easily get them to bite and throw to Tate in the flat.
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play action is very hard to do in the rz because it unfolds slowly and everyone on defense is so close to the LOS. No S 20 yards downfield and the linebackers don't need to "drop" into coverage.
 
Well, in defense of what Marcus said, he did mention "some". So if you're not part of that "some", then no worries. :tiphat:
 
Vinny said:
We aren't stout in the middle of the field in any case, with or without seeing a bunch of man blocking in practice. Heck with the watered down practice rules you can only simulate man blocking in shells for the most part. Why the Texans fail to see the logic behind anchoring a dominant big man to be an immovable 2gap eating object in the middle of the field in short yardage and around the goal line is beyond me.
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When it becomes more important to BE RIGHT about your untraditional D approach and to prove that you were right in your initial premise, rather than admit to a failing experiment...............this is what you get.........the famous Emperor's Clothes Defense.
 
Joe Texan said:
since we took Kubes from Denver we have had trouble punching in the endzone of our opponents. Is it because Gary calls all the plays and calls the formations or does Schaub have the authority to change the play at the line of scrimage. Are the Texans hands tied to the coach in the red zone. I understand that the blocking schemes have to be precise to work and when they do I could be the running back. Bt just like this last game seems we threw out the run for the pass.

I am just asking cause we have several years of this same problem and it is not anything to do with the Defense, except that they got very tired after several 3 and outs at the end of the game.

Does anybody hold Gary accountable or is it always the offence or defense and the coach is excused.
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I think it is coaches, GM, and players. Last year we had no problem doing it becuase Foster is that kind of guy. Tate is a solid back, but he doesn't have that same burst that Foster has. That is fine between the 20's, but in this ZBS, you need a guy with that burst to punch it in.

The problem with Kubiak and Smith is they still think its 1998 and the Denver ZBS can use any runner. It can't. The 1998 ZBS which allowed O line to use now illegal chop blocks. With chop blocks, any one cut runner can get about 3-4 yards a carry. The good ones get about 5-6+. Kubes and Smith hit on gold with Foster out of sheer luck and need to invest in another similar type back to run the system. The right size and speed is important.

So, I blame Kubes/Smith for not getting the right personal and then the players for not getting it done on the field.
 
Doppelganger said:
I think it is coaches, GM, and players. Last year we had no problem doing it becuase Foster is that kind of guy. Tate is a solid back, but he doesn't have that same burst that Foster has. That is fine between the 20's, but in this ZBS, you need a guy with that burst to punch it in.

The problem with Kubiak and Smith is they still think its 1998 and the Denver ZBS can use any runner. It can't. The 1998 ZBS which allowed O line to use now illegal chop blocks. With chop blocks, any one cut runner can get about 3-4 yards a carry. The good ones get about 5-6+. Kubes and Smith hit on gold with Foster out of sheer luck and need to invest in another similar type back to run the system. The right size and speed is important.

So, I blame Kubes/Smith for not getting the right personal and then the players for not getting it done on the field.
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Didn't Denver have Gary Zimmerman and Tom Nalen two HOF or close to it ?
 
Ckw said:
Maybe I'm crazy but I don't know why we don't try running the ball with Casey a little bit in the red zone while Foster is out. His run he had on Sunday was pretty dang impressive and he looks like he could blow through some tacklers.
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What makes Foster so great on the goalline is that he has just enough speed to get to the edge but is also shifty & quick enough to hit a cutback lane if one opens up.

Imo, this is where casey comes up short in your scenario. He's not fast enough down there for to be able to press the Lb's into believing he can reach the corner of the zone & if a cutback lane opens up i don't think he could hit it fast enough. I also don't believe he's strong enough to be able to blow through anyone between the tackles inside as most teams' goalline defense usually consists of the fattest of the fat on the line.

The sad thing about all this is that Slaton imo has all the attributes to be able to do what Foster does.............everything except for the vision that is.

Tate, it remains to be seen but i don't think he's got the vision either.
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
Didn't Denver have Gary Zimmerman and Tom Nalen two HOF or close to it ?
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Sure, but part of what made them great was the ZBS cut blocks. Zimmerman was a fine OL in Minnesota, but was a probowler in Denver.Nalen was a 7th rounder who was drafted by the Broncos.

Who knopws how they would have been if not in the ZBS chop block system.
 
Vinny said:
play action is very hard to do in the rz because it unfolds slowly and everyone on defense is so close to the LOS. No S 20 yards downfield and the linebackers don't need to "drop" into coverage.
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True. But many teams to great effect can play action and slip a TE or receiver out into the flat for an easy pitch and catch 6. We're also a very good play action team with a threat at RB, but we don't seem to ever call a play action in the RZ.
 
hradhak said:
True. But many teams to great effect can play action and slip a TE or receiver out into the flat for an easy pitch and catch 6. We're also a very good play action team with a threat at RB, but we don't seem to ever call a play action in the RZ.
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I've seen us do it a couple of times where we've done play action with Foster or whomever was back there & slipped leach out in the flats for a TD or OD in the middle. The problem with it though is that it's usually a 1-2 read play max. If leach is covered in the flats, then who do you go to? TE in the back of the zone or you could have someone drag all the way across the formation..which takes time. By then any little benefit you had with PA is usually gone b/c you've run out of real estate & the LB's have pretty much recovered.

Those kinds of plays have to be set up in advance though. For instance, noone will bite on the PA if you haven't shown in propensity to run the ball effectively before hand. This is how the giants beat us last year.
 
Mr teX said:
What makes Foster so great on the goalline is that he has just enough speed to get to the edge but is also shifty & quick enough to hit a cutback lane if one opens up.

Imo, this is where casey comes up short in your scenario. He's not fast enough down there for to be able to press the Lb's into believing he can reach the corner of the zone & if a cutback lane opens up i don't think he could hit it fast enough. I also don't believe he's strong enough to be able to blow through anyone between the tackles inside as most teams' goalline defense usually consists of the fattest of the fat on the line.

The sad thing about all this is that Slaton imo has all the attributes to be able to do what Foster does.............everything except for the vision that is.

Tate, it remains to be seen but i don't think he's got the vision either.
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Foster is incredible. I'm still not sold that Casey couldn't have punched it in for 3 yards out in the Saints game. But it is just speculation.

It is very sad about Slaton. I just don't understand what happened to him. He seemed to have very good vision his rookie year. He always seemed to find the smallest hole and just burst through it. Now, he didn't ever have the kind of vision Foster has (and I think Foster has the best vision of any back in the league), but it was certainly above average. Now, Slaton just runs into the back of guys like he is running with his eyes closed.

I agree with you on Tate. He looks to be a very good RB, capable of even being a top 10 RB down the road. But because of his lack of true vision and seeming inability to catch the ball effectively out of the backfield, he will never be an elite RB.

Hurry up, Arian!
 
Ckw said:
And you think it is illogical to ***** a little bit about, and maybe even hate on, a coach with a 1 and 18 record on the road against teams with eventual winning records? Really?!?
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Sure do.

It should be like it is for players. I don't give a rat's ass what you've done for me in the past. All I care about, is what you've done for me lately. (aka Steve Slaton)

What this team did under Kubiak in previous years is no concern to me anymore, because in previous years, there were different circumstances, involving key injuries to players, different coaches, schemes, etc.

This is a new season, and stop dwelling on the past.
 
Marcus said:
Sure do.

It should be like it is for players. I don't give a rat's ass what you've done for me in the past. All I care about, is what you've done for me lately. (aka Steve Slaton)

What this team did under Kubiak in previous years is no concern to me anymore, because in previous years, there were different circumstances, involving key injuries to players, different coaches, schemes, etc.

This is a new season, and stop dwelling on the past.
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And what has Kubiak done differently this year than he has in years past? Other than the defense not being in last place (19th in ypg, 22nd in passing ypg, and 22nd in ppg) but we still aren't a top tier team that looks like a potential championship team. He's had long enough to get us there (as long as Sean Payton), so yeah his past does play into his present because his present doesn't look THAT much different than his past.

But keep on keeping on with your apparent low expectations.
 
The whole premise of Joe's question is offbase. The Texans have not had constant red zone issues under Kubiak. And I am not a Kubes lover, just a lover of the truth.

Last year they were one of the very best teams out there in the red zone. Vinny had the right answer. Without Foster, we are going to struggle in the RZ. Period. He has special ability to cut back against the grain and can take a wee little hole and exploit it.

Once Foster returns, and is 100% this problem will go poof with it.
 
Ckw said:
And what has Kubiak done differently this year than he has in years past? Other than the defense not being in last place (19th in ypg, 22nd in passing ypg, and 22nd in ppg) but we still aren't a top tier team that looks like a potential championship team. He's had long enough to get us there (as long as Sean Payton), so yeah his past does play into his present because his present doesn't look THAT much different than his past.

But keep on keeping on with your apparent low expectations.
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So, how do you know all this? Have you got a crystal ball that's telling you how this season is going to end up?

But keep on keeping on with your assumptions on how things are going to turn out.
 
Ckw said:
And what has Kubiak done differently this year than he has in years past? Other than the defense not being in last place (19th in ypg, 22nd in passing ypg, and 22nd in ppg) but we still aren't a top tier team that looks like a potential championship team. He's had long enough to get us there (as long as Sean Payton), so yeah his past does play into his present because his present doesn't look THAT much different than his past.

But keep on keeping on with your apparent low expectations.
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I get quite a different opinion of Marcus' position. I seem to take it that he has a high expectation this season.

In any event, neither one of you are right and neither one of you are wrong....

THAT'S WHY THEY PLAY THE GAMES on the field and not some video game.
 
When I look at the sideline, I see the head coach as the Texans weakest position. Nothing I've seen this year has changed that.

Lots of good players though. They finally got that to a decent level.
 
Runner said:
When I look at the sideline, I see the head coach as the Texans weakest position. Nothing I've seen this year has changed that.

Lots of good players though. They finally got that to a decent level.
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Give us Cowher and he'll give us a superbowl..
 
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