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Is there any possible way that this coaching staff could've mishandled that hamstring situation any more than they have?

We'll probably be dealing with this all season long now, GREAT. :(
 
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Agree. Just sent an angry text to a buddy saying we should have sat Arian this week.

Boneheaded decisions like these - by our HEAD COACH - is what trips us up.
 
It doesn't make any damn sense. I can see trying to rush the guy back or being impatient if you were a team that struggled running the ball or lacked depth, but given the depth we had they should of gave Arian all the time he needed.....and then add another week on top of that.

It's these type of decisions by this organization that draw so much ridicule and doubt from the fans. I still don't know what the hell he was doing in the 49ers game, that was the dumbest decision of all. After the Saints game I would've said "Okay...he's ready" and then shut him down for the regular season.
 
Ridiculous decision to play him today. Suit him up because Ward is out? Sure. But last resort to play him. Dumb, dumb move. Just knocked him out of 2-4 more games by playing him today.
 
I must have missed it, I thought they took him out af ter a couple of drives, did he aggrevate the hammy again!?!?
 
Carr Bombed said:
air on the side of caution, . :(
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He'll be fine. Probably did more work in the "normal load" Wednesday than he did today. Can't see how it was any real crazy setback.
 
I read somewhere that its reaggrevated but don't have a link (think its buried in the gameday thread)

When you have 4 RB's who could all start for other teams around the league, why oh why are you rushing Foster back? Tate put up 116 yards last week and once their hand was forced and he became the feature back today he's put up another 100 yard game.
 
welsh texan said:
I read somewhere that its reaggrevated but don't have a link (think its buried in the gameday thread)

When you have 4 RB's who could all start for other teams around the league, why oh why are you rushing Foster back? Tate put up 116 yards last week and once their hand was forced and he became the feature back today he's put up another 100 yard game.
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Which poor poor team would actually start Slaton? :thinking:
 
fiasco west said:
I didn't hear anything about him tweaking it again. It could just be that they had planned to limit him?
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Kubiak said that his hamstring "experienced fatigue".............code phrase for pulled his hamstring again........."and he will be evaluated tomorrow"...........code phrase for MRI.

He did not say this, but it can be implied that the MRI will not be available thru Twitter anytime soon.:kitten:
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Kubiak said that his hamstring "experienced fatigue".............code phrase for pulled his hamstring again........."and he will be evaluated tomorrow"...........code phrase for MRI.

He did not say this, but it can be implied that the MRI will not be available thru Twitter anytime soon.:kitten:
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Well you just took away any hope I had of him playing next week. You're usually right about these things and knowing the Texans history.......

Tate did play really well against the Saints in preseason.
 
Yeah I think it is obvious something happened. 21 days after the last game you cannot really fault the Texans. I am pretty sure Foster's head would have exploded if he was sat for this game as well.
 
buddyboy said:
Which poor poor team would actually start Slaton? :thinking:
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Slaton takes a lot of grief in here but if you roll him out there for a week or two to knock the rust off he'd be more than serviceable. I think Slaton would be a good fit in Arizona for instance (Though it looks like Wells is finally coming around there so they don't need him). He'd also be able to do some damage with Detroit I think. He'd be a really good fit there.
 
610 am was quoting Kubiak with it was 'fatigue, heat & humidity'. I don't think we'll get the full or correct story for a while
 
Porky said:
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CND not only called this yesterday, he called it the perfect storm for Foster to reinjure the Hammy. (Wet field that was torn up from a game last night, heat/humidity/Foster not being fully healed.)

Foster saw how well Tate has been playing and convinced Gary he was healthy. (Big mistake Gary) Where was the Texans medical staff when this decision was made? This is just another case of the Texans medical staff being crap. Remember Bosselli,DDW, AJ's ankle that they let him play on and caused it to worsen to the point he needed offseason surgery. etc.... If anybody thinks it's a good idea for Walter to play for atleast the next 4-5 weeks they're off their rocker. IMHO It's ashame that CND (who has no inside knowledge) can make better decisions in regards to the Texans injury situations. Than the Texans medical staff can make with all of the MRI/X-Ray info at hand. Does anybody else feel the same way I do?

It's troubling at best
 
Porky said:
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??? Where's the "hindsight" when people were calling for him to sit out all of preseason before the games were even played? This has little to do with hindsight. A lot of people said this would happen if we brought him back too soon. The injury in preseason...fine, I can see how that can happen once. However after he already re-aggravated the hamstring, they should of kept him out longer. Now we're really starting to get to the meat and potatoes of our schedule and he isn't going to be healthy. It was great seeing him during the preseason though :rolleyes:
 
Kubes said it was a coaching decision to pull him at the half due to fatigue. Thats what I heard. Honestly I am not too worried about him, since tate has been doing really well. Hopefully Foster will be ready for next week but if not I have faith in Tate. We will see how this plays out.
 
It's a tough situation...

Tate playing well doesn't make Foster want to rest. Foster is in a contract year and Tate playing well doesn't bode well for Foster having negotiating leverage. He wants to get out there and play... and Kubiak doesn't know how to tell him to rest.
 
I don't know what's going on with Foster, but if he injured his hammy again it's another bad sign for the Texans. I know it may sound drastic, but I think its time to move on from Foster. This team is at a position where it cannot have distractions such as this week in and week out. If Foster is hurt again, sit him, place him on IR, send him to a one of those Christian "healers" on tv, or whatever. Ben Tate has shown himself to be more than adequate and he needs to be the starter.
 
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The reason there is so much consternation over this is because we witnessed something we're not used to seeing: a smart coaching decision. Foster looked perfectly healthy and frustrated to not be in the game. He didn't look gimpy at all. Expect a healthy dose of Foster next week when we really, really need him.
 
Nawzer said:
I don't know what's going on with Foster, but if he injured his hammy again it's another bad sign for the Texans. I know it may sound drastic, but I think its time to move on from Foster. This team is at a position where it cannot have distractions such as this week in and week out. If Foster is hurt again, sit him, place him on IR, send him to a one of those Christian "healers" on tv, or whatever. Ben Tate has shown himself to be more than adequate and he needs to be the starter.
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Yeah you're right, that does sound drastic. :)


It's just a hammy..and you don't trade the NFL's leading rusher, because he has a pulled hammy. There's no bad beef between Foster and Tate. If Foster was all about the money he would've held out, he just needs to get healthy.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Yeah you're right, that does sound drastic. :)


It's just a hammy..and you don't trade the NFL's leading rusher, because he has a pulled hammy. There's no bad beef between Foster and Tate. If Foster was all about the money he would've held out, he just needs to get healthy.
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I never suggested we trade or cut Foster. I said we need to let him take care of this problem properly. We need stability and Tate right now gives us the best option.
 
DocBar said:
:overreact:
The reason there is so much consternation over this is because we witnessed something we're not used to seeing: a smart coaching decision. Foster looked perfectly healthy and frustrated to not be in the game. He didn't look gimpy at all. Expect a healthy dose of Foster next week when we really, really need him.
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The announcers kept saying Foster re-injured his hammy but it seemed like they were just speculating - they never had a report from the sideline or anything.

Foster got 33 yards on 10 carries. His first carry was for 14 yards. So his last nine carries were for 19 yards. If I'm the coach, I take him out and let him rest even if he is healthy. I gotta think Tate is going to be better than 2 yards a carry.

So DocBar may be right: Kubes tricked us by making the right coaching move.
 
Nawzer said:
I don't know what's going on with Foster, but if he injured his hammy again it's another bad sign for the Texans. I know it may sound drastic, but I think its time to move on from Foster. This team is at a position where it cannot have distractions such as this week in and week out. If Foster is hurt again, sit him, place him on IR, send him to a one of those Christian "healers" on tv, or whatever. Ben Tate has shown himself to be more than adequate and he needs to be the starter.
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Nawzer said:
I never suggested we trade or cut Foster. I said we need to let him take care of this problem properly. We need stability and Tate right now gives us the best option.
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Saying "its time to move on" kinda is suggesting a trade or cut. This is not a distraction, he shouldn't be put on IR until you are convinced he can not play the rest of the year (which apparently lots of folks seem to think is the case with a hamstring injury!) I think Ward, Slaton, and Tate have all had hamstring issues this year. Should we just not carry any running backs on the roster?

OK, I see it can be a distraction to sicko Fantasy players. I meant it is not a distraction to the Texans.
 
imagine both are healthy.......:kitten: Arian Foster gives Texans big play potential while Tate is explsosive short yardage specialist who can just munch up the clock. Best of both worlds Texan fans lets enjoy it. Takes two to tango :handshake:
 
If Foster was cramping up during the game, no matter what the MRI shows tomorrow, he should not see action for at least a month. Period. Otherwise, expect him to revisit the gurney throughout the rest of the season, or receive a cheap ticket to IR.
 
I don't know if this has been posted or not: Foster admitted that his hamstring tightened up.

Arian Foster conceded Sunday night that his troublesome hamstring tightened up at halftime, forcing him out of final two quarters of Week 2.
Coach Gary Kubiak stated in a post-game press conference that Foster was fatigued, suggesting the hamstring isn't a problem anymore. It still is. "I pulled myself out because I felt it was getting a little tight," Foster conceded. Hamstring pulls are so susceptible to re-aggravation that the Texans would probably be best served shutting down Foster for two weeks, and then reevaluating. It's clear that they can more than just get by with Ben Tate in the meantime.
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http://rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/213451/arian-foster-admits-hamstring-tightened-up?rw=1
 
via Rotoworld: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5469/arian-foster

Arian Foster conceded Sunday night that his troublesome hamstring tightened up at halftime, forcing him out of final two quarters of Week 2.
Coach Gary Kubiak stated in a post-game press conference that Foster was fatigued, suggesting the hamstring isn't a problem anymore. It still is. "I pulled myself out because I felt it was getting a little tight," Foster conceded. Hamstring pulls are so susceptible to re-aggravation that the Texans would probably be best served shutting down Foster for two weeks, and then reevaluating. It's clear that they can more than just get by with Ben Tate in the meantime. Sep 18 - 8:30 PM
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It does say that it got tight, but it could be possible that fatigue and the humidity is why this happened. I will hold off fearing the worst till I see how he progresses through the week. Hopefully this will all blow over as a false alarm.

Edit: JCTexan beat me to it by a min!
 
Man, how freaking predictable can some of you get, with this BLAME NONSENSE having to do with Foster's hammy.

I predicted it. I was hoping y'all would prove me wrong and actually be better then that, but I predicted it.

If you cannot depend on Foster being truthful about the condition of his hamstring, who is to "blame" here?

Riiiiight! :rolleyes:
 
dinkatoid said:
via Rotoworld: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5469/arian-foster



It does say that it got tight, but it could be possible that fatigue and the humidity is why this happened. I will hold off fearing the worst till I see how he progresses through the week. Hopefully this will all blow over as a false alarm.

Edit: JCTexan beat me to it by a min!
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See CND's post above, it would appear that it would be best for Foster to sit out atleast a month. Just like he should've sat out the preseason/ after he reinjured it against the 49ers atleast until the Saint game.

Does anybody else feel the Texans are going to screw this up. On a brighter note that sound you hear is Fosters FA contract value dropping. I'm sure this wont hurt billionaire BoBBy's feelings come contract negociation time. Maybe there will be enough $$$ to sign MW this offseason afterall.
 
steelbtexan said:
See CND's post above, it would appear that it would be best for Foster to sit out atleast a month. Just like he should've sat out the preseason/ after he reinjured it against the 49ers atleast until the Saint game.

Does anybody else feel the Texans are going to screw this up. On a brighter note that sound you hear is Fosters FA contract value dropping. I'm sure this wont hurt billionaire BoBBy's feelings come contract negociation time. Maybe there will be enough $$$ to sign MW this offseason afterall.
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You and your "BoBBy" fetish. The contract thing is exactly why Foster is lying to the medical staff.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Is there any possible way that this coaching staff could've mishandled that hamstring situation any more than they have?

The sad thing is a lot of fans repeatedly said they didn't want him to play this preseason...yet they throw him out there. Then they said don't listen to what Foster tells you and air on the side of caution, they let him sit out one week.


We'll probably be dealing with this all season long now, GREAT. :(
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Wow. I'm not sure why anyone would be complaining about the organization at this point in the season. Foster was fine. He was wanting to play but the coaches held him out. They were prudent. The organization you are complaining about is the same one that kept 4 RBs and also drafted Ben Tate. I'd say they are making quite a few good decisions right now. Oh, and we will have the AFC South wrapped up by late November. If he's still not healthy, perhaps he can rest it then.
 
dalemurphy said:
Wow. I'm not sure why anyone would be complaining about the organization at this point in the season. Foster was fine. He was wanting to play but the coaches held him out. They were prudent. The organization you are complaining about is the same one that kept 4 RBs and also drafted Ben Tate. I'd say they are making quite a few good decisions right now. Oh, and we will have the AFC South wrapped up by late November. If he's still not healthy, perhaps he can rest it then.
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It's all because there are some here who still have the red ass because Kubiak wasn't fired. Its the same usual suspects.
 
Marcus said:
It's all because there are some here who still have the red ass because Kubiak wasn't fired. Its the same usual suspects.
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Would they rather have that moron, Tony Sporano? who wasted that timeout with 8 minutes to go and down 10 points.
 
Hey as soon as you two ladies stop gossiping on why someone "said what they said", would you please let us know so we can get back to the discussion at hand, it would be greatly appreciated...thank you.

My comments didn't have anything to do with the Texans not firing Kubiak last season, thanks for the ASSumptions though.


Believe it or not in hindsight, I'm actually glad the man is still here. His offense fits this defense/team (RBs) great and he gives us the best chance to win now.....which is all I care about since Andre only has a few prime years left. Damn I guess that blows the great "hypothesis" out of the water huh?
 
Lucky said:
dale, stop jinxing them. You said the same thing after last season's start. And you know what happened then.
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I have learned one thing over the years.....never count out the Titans. They seem to be the most dangerous when everybody writes them off and counts them out. I watched that game against the Ravens today, they looked just as impressive in that game (if not more) as we have so far this season. There's something about that franchise that reminds me of a wounded animal cornered.

P.S.

Where is Kenny Britt's suspension? :foottap: (that guy is slowly turning into a beast)
 
Lucky said:
No suspension for Britt. Yet, Terrell Pryor gets 5 games before he ever suits up for a game. How bogus is that?
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You know what...you're right. I didn't even think about that and that doesn't make a lick of sense at all. I used to be a supporter of Goodell when he first came in mainly, because I respected the fact that he wanted to clean up the game.

However, he's way WAY too inconsistent with his verdicts, it's almost like he's just throwing darts at the wall. He's the judge, jury, and executioner and his off the wall punishments have caused him to lose all credibility. Now with all the rule changes, the fans are turning on him as hell. He's slowly ruining this game one "rules committee" at a time.
 
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