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Arian Foster Practices "Normally"

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I realize it's not as important as who our #4 or #5 WR is, or whether we can move TE's to WR's mid-season, but I thought it might be interesting to point out that our NFL leading rusher practiced "normally" today and looks to be a decent bet to start this Sunday.

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Got my 12 ounce curls going. I'm in mid-season form. BTW, DA sucks...hahaha. Good to see Foster practicing. Would love to have him for Sunday. For both my Texans and Fantasy Football Team.
 
Dolphins starting corner Sean Smith said he's not worried about future cramping. Smith claims he's never had issues with it in Miami before Monday. Smith and fellow corner Vontae Davis cramped up in the second half versus New England and were in and out of the lineup. "I’m in top-notch shape; I was hydrated," Smith said. "I have no clue what the reason for that was."

Speaking of injuries, Miami is getting healthier at running back. Tailback Daniel Thomas (hamstring) and fullback Charles Clay (hamstring) both had full participation in practice. Dolphins head coach Tony Sparano said starting tailback Reggie Bush played every offensive snap last Monday against New England.

Dolphins who did not practice Wednesday were defensive end Jason Taylor (ankle), safety Chris Clemons (hamstring), defensive end Tony McDaniel (hand) and receiver Roberto Wallace (quad).
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Sun Life Stadium is a haven for injuries.

Since 1987, the home for the Marlins and Dolphins has been called Joe Robbie Stadium, Pro Player Park, Pro Player Stadium, Dolphins Stadium, Dolphin Stadium, Land Shark Stadium, and Sun Life Stadium. The field is now juggled among the Miami Dolphins, Miami Hurricanes, and Florida Marlins, making it an extremely used surface. With its covered infield, and typically worn and ill-maintained grass field, I'd think more than twice about putting Foster out there after only 2 weeks removed from a RE-injured hamstring.........and if I am correct, the Hurricanes vs. the Ohio State Buckeyes is being played at Sun Life the NIGHT BEFORE.

FYI, Foster is listed as questionable only having LIMITED participation today. Ward didn't practice today and is listed as questionable with an "ankle" AND "shoulder" "problem." Tate is listed as probable with a quad "problem."
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
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Sun Life Stadium is a haven for injuries.

Since 1987, the home for the Marlins and Dolphins has been called Joe Robbie Stadium, Pro Player Park, Pro Player Stadium, Dolphins Stadium, Dolphin Stadium, Land Shark Stadium, and Sun Life Stadium. The field is now juggled among the Miami Dolphins, Miami Hurricanes, and Florida Marlins, making it an extremely used surface. With its covered infield, and typically worn and ill-maintained grass field, I'd think more than twice about putting Foster out there after only 2 weeks removed from a RE-injured hamstring.........and if I am correct, the Hurricanes vs. the Ohio State Buckeyes is being played at Sun Life the NIGHT BEFORE.

FYI, Foster is listed as questionable only having LIMITED participation today. Ward didn't practice today and is listed as questionable with an "ankle" AND "shoulder" "problem." Tate is listed as probable with a quad "problem."
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You got a link for that last part? First, Kubiak's description of his practice was "normal", and secondly, as of a couple of years ago, they don't disclose probable, questionable, etc. until Friday.

Edit: Here's the description of "LIMITED" as reflected on HT.com

Foster was listed as limited on the Texans’ injury report, but coach Gary Kubiak said that he took “a normal Wednesday load for a starter.” The key, Kubiak said, will be how Foster feels on Thursday.
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I realize Tate had a good game and I realize that he is a talented back, but there is not a RB on this roster close to Arian in talent level.

Arian's vision, acceleration and ability to make people miss are top notch. The dude could probably juke a Gorilla in a phone booth.

And as much as people like to dub him a power back, the dude avoids big collisions unless it's absolutely neccessary. Watch him run....He never leaves himself vulnerable for big hits...Andre does that too...They get all that they can, but watch him and Andre...You will see defenders hitting each other harder than they hit them because they are flying in trying to get clean up shots...
 
From the Sun Sentinel:

It wasn't just the 622 total yards the go-go Patriots produced in a performance straight out of Madden 12.

It wasn't just the record-setting numbers Brady and Co. posted, numbers so outrageous Dolphins cornerback Vontae Davis sat on his stool like a dazed boxer when it was over.

"Six hundred yards … that can't happen," Davis said. "Not in Pop Warner. Not in Little League. That can't happen."

But it did, and one of the major reasons it did was the Dolphins' defense was sucking wind from the second quarter on.

Davis and fellow starting cornerback Sean Smith each left the field for key stretches in the second half with leg cramps. They headed back to the locker room in search of Gatorade, IV drips, anything that could make their rebelling bodies snap back to normal.

And they weren't the only ones in aqua doubled over at the waist between long chase scenes starring Wes Welker, Aaron Hernandez and Rob Gronkowski.

"Very surprising," Bell said. "For us to cramp, especially since we practice in this, it's a little unusual. We've been through way hotter days than [Monday] night."
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Why so many cramps last game.......and this even being at night? Very high HUMIDITY. Some additional reasons to think before putting Foster out there this game.......high HUMIDITY sky-rockets the risk of suffering muscle cramps and therefore muscle injuries..........especially, HAMMIES.

And if that isn't enough reason to be concerned, let's throw in the fact that there is a greater than 40% chance of thunderstorms on Sunday........already AFTER Friday and Saturday forecasts of thunderstorms. (The field was dry for the Pats game.) That would mean 100% humidity the night of the upcoming game.......along with a wet field which would have already been wet and buggered up by the expected rain and the Hurricanes' game to be played the night before..........a perfect recipe for injury............
 
Having Foster back should really boost the Texans offense. Also should inspire Tate plus learn a lot from how Arian attacks cut-back lanes, keep both rested & grow into an elite NFL RB tandem.

If Toby had been drafted by the Texans he would probably be used @ FB, much like Casey. Multi-dimensional.
 
I would like to see Foster get some work, but believe this team will be fine without him carrying the load this Sunday. We have a nice stretch of games coming up, and will need him to touch the ball 30 times in each. A healthy Foster is better than bringing back a less than 100% kid.

Manage and leverage the assets for a successful return, and then have a pizza party and live tweet about it.
 
beerlover said:
Having Foster back should really boost the Texans offense. Also should inspire Tate plus learn a lot from how Arian attacks cut-back lanes, keep both rested & grow into an elite NFL RB tandem.

If Toby had been drafted by the Texans he would probably be used @ FB, much like Casey. Multi-dimensional.
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I'm asking a serious question and let me preface by saying I'm glad AF is back, but my question is this: How will AF's return be a "boost" to the offense? Tate ran for 116 (IIRC) which is what would be AF would run for... give or take.

Again, I'm asking a serious question AND I'm glad AF will return!
 
Texan_Bill said:
I'm asking a serious question and let me preface by saying I'm glad AF is back, but my question is this: How will AF's return be a "boost" to the offense? Tate ran for 116 (IIRC) which is what would be AF would run for... give or take.

Again, I'm asking a serious question AND I'm glad AF will return!
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I saw a few runs this past weekend where I thought, "damn, if Arian would have had that run".

He avoids defenders much better than Tate. Tate is a tackle breaker and Arian is a contact avoider. Tate doesn't suck at all, but I truly believe Arian is the best rb in the NFL. Even over Peterson. The dude rarely puts his head down and runs into a pile for no gain. His vision and ability to get to a lane and accelerate are top notch. I don't know if he'd have put up a bunch more yards, but I have no doubt his ypc would've been higher and he would've bust more long runs.

JMO.
 
Rey said:
I saw a few runs this past weekend where I thought, "damn, if Arian would have had that run".

He avoids defenders much better than Tate. Tate is a tackle breaker and Arian is a contact avoider. Tate doesn't suck at all, but I truly believe Arian is the best rb in the NFL. Even over Peterson. The dude rarely puts his head down and runs into a pile for no gain. His vision and ability to get to a lane and accelerate are top notch. I don't know if he'd have put up a bunch more yards, but I have no doubt his ypc would've been higher and he would've bust more long runs.

JMO.
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Agreed. I believe Tate is a bit faster then Arian, and maybe a bit stronger, but Arian hits holes quicker and has better vision IMO as well. If you combined the two together, you'd have one of the best backs of all time.
 
Texan_Bill said:
I'm asking a serious question and let me preface by saying I'm glad AF is back, but my question is this: How will AF's return be a "boost" to the offense? Tate ran for 116 (IIRC) which is what would be AF would run for... give or take.

Again, I'm asking a serious question AND I'm glad AF will return!
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Arian is proven. One year only but still proven. His health is the only concern, hence if he is back to normal that can only spell good things for the Texans. :koolaid:
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
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Sun Life Stadium is a haven for injuries.

Since 1987, the home for the Marlins and Dolphins has been called Joe Robbie Stadium, Pro Player Park, Pro Player Stadium, Dolphins Stadium, Dolphin Stadium, Land Shark Stadium, and Sun Life Stadium. The field is now juggled among the Miami Dolphins, Miami Hurricanes, and Florida Marlins, making it an extremely used surface. With its covered infield, and typically worn and ill-maintained grass field, I'd think more than twice about putting Foster out there after only 2 weeks removed from a RE-injured hamstring.........and if I am correct, the Hurricanes vs. the Ohio State Buckeyes is being played at Sun Life the NIGHT BEFORE.

FYI, Foster is listed as questionable only having LIMITED participation today. Ward didn't practice today and is listed as questionable with an "ankle" AND "shoulder" "problem." Tate is listed as probable with a quad "problem."
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Way to go, Captain Jinx our Asses. If one Texan gets hurt, I'm on the next flight to Houston, looking for a skull with a cape. You'll be public enemy #1
 
DocBar said:
Way to go, Captain Jinx our Asses. If one Texan gets hurt, I'm on the next flight to Houston, looking for a skull with a cape. You'll be public enemy #1
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You're one to talk about 'jinxing our asses' with this "Miami being our next victim" and "rolling onto a win in New Orleans" crap. Have you lost your mind or something? And if it doesn't turn out that way, you're on the "fire guess-who", right?

I'll defer to Cloak on this one. If he plays, that hammy is going to get tweaked again. I said it here.

How's that for 'jinxing our asses'? :pop:
 
Marcus said:
You're one to talk about 'jinxing our asses' with this "Miami being our next victim" and "rolling onto a win in New Orleans" crap. Have you lost your mind or something? And if it doesn't turn out that way, you're on the "fire guess-who", right?

I'll defer to Cloak on this one. If he plays, that hammy is going to get tweaked again. I said it here.

How's that for 'jinxing our asses'? :pop:
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LOL...I forgot to use the sarcasm smilie. I wasn't being serious.
 
Texan_Bill said:
I'm asking a serious question and let me preface by saying I'm glad AF is back, but my question is this: How will AF's return be a "boost" to the offense? Tate ran for 116 (IIRC) which is what would be AF would run for... give or take.

Again, I'm asking a serious question AND I'm glad AF will return!
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Arian is a better back in all aspects. tate is a good spell back, but the talent level isn't really close.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
From the Sun Sentinel:

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Why so many cramps last game.......and this even being at night? Very high HUMIDITY. Some additional reasons to think before putting Foster out there this game.......high HUMIDITY sky-rockets the risk of suffering muscle cramps and therefore muscle injuries..........especially, HAMMIES.

And if that isn't enough reason to be concerned, let's throw in the fact that there is a greater than 40% chance of thunderstorms on Sunday........already AFTER Friday and Saturday forecasts of thunderstorms. (The field was dry for the Pats game.) That would mean 100% humidity the night of the upcoming game.......along with a wet field which would have already been wet and buggered up by the expected rain and the Hurricanes' game to be played the night before..........a perfect recipe for injury............
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Great post, man.

Count me in the rest-Arian-until-he's-100% crowd. I think we can beat this Miami team with Tate and Ward. We need Foster against the Saints and Steelers, so no use taking any chances in Miami. Another week of rest will do that hamstring good.
 
Double Barrel said:
Great post, man.

Count me in the rest-Arian-until-he's-100% crowd. I think we can beat this Miami team with Tate and Ward. We need Foster against the Saints and Steelers, so no use taking any chances in Miami. Another week of rest will do that hamstring good.
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Ditto. We can win without him, with the same game plan. I want him week 3-6 (Saints, Steelers, Raiders, Ravens) Just have to play 100%, four quarters, 60 minutes. We have the talent to win. Just have to execute and play to high standards.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
From the Sun Sentinel:

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Why so many cramps last game.......and this even being at night? Very high HUMIDITY. Some additional reasons to think before putting Foster out there this game.......high HUMIDITY sky-rockets the risk of suffering muscle cramps and therefore muscle injuries..........especially, HAMMIES.

And if that isn't enough reason to be concerned, let's throw in the fact that there is a greater than 40% chance of thunderstorms on Sunday........already AFTER Friday and Saturday forecasts of thunderstorms. (The field was dry for the Pats game.) That would mean 100% humidity the night of the upcoming game.......along with a wet field which would have already been wet and buggered up by the expected rain and the Hurricanes' game to be played the night before..........a perfect recipe for injury............
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Not arguing with you Cloak but if ANY visiting team in the league can cope with Miamis heat and humidity, its the Texans. Their TC was in a hell.
 
BigBull17 said:
Arian is a better back in all aspects. tate is a good spell back, but the talent level isn't really close.
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I thought Tate looked pretty similar to Foster when he played the last couple of games of '09. Regardless, whether or not Foster plays will probably be as dependant on Ward's health as anything else. Does anyone feel comfortable with Tate and Slaton being 1-2 and Foster being 3?
 
BigBull17 said:
Arian is a better back in all aspects. tate is a good spell back, but the talent level isn't really close.
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I hear what you're saying, I just don't think there's that much of a drop-off. I would rather sit Foster until we "know" his hammy is 100%.
 
Double Barrel said:
Great post, man.

Count me in the rest-Arian-until-he's-100% crowd. I think we can beat this Miami team with Tate and Ward. We need Foster against the Saints and Steelers, so no use taking any chances in Miami. Another week of rest will do that hamstring good.
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Section516 said:
Ditto. We can win without him, with the same game plan. I want him week 3-6 (Saints, Steelers, Raiders, Ravens) Just have to play 100%, four quarters, 60 minutes. We have the talent to win. Just have to execute and play to high standards.
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Count me in as well.
 
Double Barrel said:
Great post, man.

Count me in the rest-Arian-until-he's-100% crowd. I think we can beat this Miami team with Tate and Ward. We need Foster against the Saints and Steelers, so no use taking any chances in Miami. Another week of rest will do that hamstring good.
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I must admit that it's hard for me to understand why or how Gary uses his players in certain situations? Do we really need Arian one game, regardless who it's against, if he could be subject to more serious injury? Was it critical last week to leave Matt Schuab play the entire second half against the Colts leading 34-0 & subject his body to the possibility of injury?

Bottom line he needs to protect key players, like Foster, with kid gloves & make better risk management decisions. To me if he plays it should be on a limited basis only depending on games outcome & other players impact.
 
DocBar said:
I thought Tate looked pretty similar to Foster when he played the last couple of games of '09. Regardless, whether or not Foster plays will probably be as dependant on Ward's health as anything else. Does anyone feel comfortable with Tate and Slaton being 1-2 and Foster being 3?
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I'm comfortable with Tate-Slaton as the 1-2, but if Foster is ready to go why would it not be Tate-Foster if you're giving Arian limited carries?
 
Kubiak hints at Tate starting over Foster

Houston Texans coach Gary Kubiak said he believes in rewarding performance, and it sure sounds as if he is about to reward Ben Tate with another start Sunday in Miami in place reigning NFL rushing champion Arian Foster....

“This league is a league of opportunity," Kubiak told Dolphins beat writers in a conference call Wednesday. "There’s a lot of good people backing up or running third and all of a sudden guys get hurt. Some of them go in and take advantage of their opportunities, and some of them don’t. I say it to our team all the team: If you get an opportunity and go out and do it, I’m going to leave you out there.”

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Kubiak-hints-at-Tate-starting-over-Foster.html
 
A pissed off Arian is a great Arian(see Raiders game).

I don't know what Gary is trying to do here. I think Foster is an elite back who deserves to start if he plays. We have seen Tate enough to know he is a good back, but no where near as elusive as Arian is.
 
JCTexan said:
I'm comfortable with Tate-Slaton as the 1-2, but if Foster is ready to go why would it not be Tate-Foster if you're giving Arian limited carries?
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I wasn't necessarily suggesting they go Tate-Slaton. I was saying that Foster's availability on Sunday would be dictated by Ward's health. They have him on the injury report with an ankle and shoulder. Tate-Foster is a much better combo than Tate-Slaton.
 
TexansForTheW said:
A pissed off Arian is a great Arian(see Raiders game).

I don't know what Gary is trying to do here. I think Foster is an elite back who deserves to start if he plays. We have seen Tate enough to know he is a good back, but no where near as elusive as Arian is.
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I need to see it in context, but it sounds more like a depth chart move over Ward, not over Foster.


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TexansForTheW said:
A pissed off Arian is a great Arian(see Raiders game).

I don't know what Gary is trying to do here. I think Foster is an elite back who deserves to start if he plays. We have seen Tate enough to know he is a good back, but no where near as elusive as Arian is.
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The interview was with a Dolphin source. He's just giving them something extra to look at vs. just saying Arian is gonna play.
 
asleep said:
Kubiak hints at Tate starting over Foster

Houston Texans coach Gary Kubiak said he believes in rewarding performance, and it sure sounds as if he is about to reward Ben Tate with another start Sunday in Miami in place reigning NFL rushing champion Arian Foster....

“This league is a league of opportunity," Kubiak told Dolphins beat writers in a conference call Wednesday. "There’s a lot of good people backing up or running third and all of a sudden guys get hurt. Some of them go in and take advantage of their opportunities, and some of them don’t. I say it to our team all the team: If you get an opportunity and go out and do it, I’m going to leave you out there.”

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Kubiak-hints-at-Tate-starting-over-Foster.html
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I get what Kubiak is saying and the culture he wants to create, but that has to be the dumbest thing I've heard in a while.

If Matt1 gets nicked and has to take a game off and Matt2 comes in and performs well he is not going to leave Matt2 in the starting line-up.

Ben Tate had a good game against a poor Colts defense. Arian Foster has a season's worth of success against various defenses. Plus he is just better.

Either Kubiak is blowing smoke, trying to decrease Foster's value so they can sign him easier or he's just making a poor choice...IMO.
 
TexansForTheW said:
A pissed off Arian is a great Arian(see Raiders game).

I don't know what Gary is trying to do here. I think Foster is an elite back who deserves to start if he plays. We have seen Tate enough to know he is a good back, but no where near as elusive as Arian is.
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I think the L word (loyalty) is coloring some judgments here regarding who is better than who, particularly among the fantasy football crowd.

Tate is just getting started. And he's got breakaway speed. Yes, he runs different than Arian, but that doesn't mean anything. That show he put on in that one game in preseason is just a taste of what he can bring to the table if he's healthy.

And he's got breakaway speed. (Oh yeah, I mentioned that already)
 
Texan_Bill said:
I'm asking a serious question and let me preface by saying I'm glad AF is back, but my question is this: How will AF's return be a "boost" to the offense? Tate ran for 116 (IIRC) which is what would be AF would run for... give or take.

Again, I'm asking a serious question AND I'm glad AF will return!
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Against the Colts run defense? That should have been 231 yards.

That's how. Against Miami, Tate may be good for 88 yards, where Foster could get 130.. who knows?

But I agree 100% with Rey, Tate & Ward left a lot on the field that Arian would have gobbled up.
 
I'm surprised to read some people would be willing to trott Foster out there no matter what his condition if Ward is out.

For me, I want Foster to take as few carries as possible this weekend, sure, if he can handle ~10 carries then let him feel his way back in with some light game time but seriously, when a Steve Slaton is your 4th option what is the hurry to rush Foster back?

Do whats best for Foster and let the next guy up produce for you, thats the sensible way, you have 3 1000 yard rushers and a guy who averages 116 YPG on the roster, don't take any risks.
 
Keep adrian on the sidelines, Run Ben Tate/Slaton and let Foster/Ward rest, if it was me with this tandem of running back we have I'd do that all year long and let them get some good rest, then by end of year start running whoever is the freshest legs and getting the best play in.

Whether that would end up Foster/Tate, Ward/Slaton, Foster/Slaton, or Slaton/Tate I would care less..

Fantasy lovers would shoot me for this though :)
 
DX-TEX said:
Not arguing with you Cloak but if ANY visiting team in the league can cope with Miamis heat and humidity, its the Texans. Their TC was in a hell.
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To specifically speak to your heat and humidity comment. Ask yourself how many full speed, full contact practices the Texans have in the hot humidity. Next, you can't extrapolate the short morning outdoor practices to the rigors of a complete, full out, nonstop, full-contact, competition football game..........that's when the muscles are severely affected. There's a reason why so many of the Miami players, who are supposedly used to practicing and playing in the heat and humidity (they also have an air-conditioned practice bubble) have experienced muscle cramping and pulls.

You can put Foster out there knowing all of Foster's past history, the anticipated adverse weather and field conditions that we've discussed..........and he may still come out of it without re-injury. Ultimately, my "crystal ball" is not better than any of yours. But that outcome will not have been due to smarts on the part of the Texans.........it will have been due to luck........and a healthy dose of it.
 
If he's not fully healthy or if they think another week if rest will do him good, sit him.

Vickers can also take carries if needed. But between Tate, slate and ward (if he plays) should be adequate.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
To specifically speak to your heat and humidity comment. Ask yourself how many full speed, full contact practices the Texans have in the hot humidity. Next, you can't extrapolate the short morning outdoor practices to the rigors of a complete, full out, nonstop, full-contact, competition football game..........that's when the muscles are severely affected. There's a reason why so many of the Miami players, who are supposedly used to practicing and playing in the heat and humidity (they also have an air-conditioned practice bubble) have experienced muscle cramping and pulls.

You can put Foster out there knowing all of Foster's past history, the anticipated adverse weather and field conditions that we've discussed..........and he may still come out of it without re-injury. Ultimately, my "crystal ball" is not better than any of yours. But that outcome will not have been due to smarts on the part of the Texans.........it will have been due to luck........and a healthy dose of it.
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I am not trying to argue with you, I respect your insight and your opinion. Just making a comment.:heart:
 
DX-TEX said:
Not arguing with you Cloak but if ANY visiting team in the league can cope with Miamis heat and humidity, its the Texans. Their TC was in a hell.
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Actually, the humidity in Houston during training camp was nonexistent due to the drought and the air continues to be way drier than usual. HOT, yes. Humid, not so much.
 
I have Arian on my Fantasy team, but I'd still rather him not take any risks. We are still early in the season, and we aren't exactly at risk of losing our play-off spot yet, so there shouldn't be that much pressure on us. Especially due to what everyone else has been saying, we have a really great depth at running back. The only thing that we seem to risk by using Tate/Slaton instead of Foster, is possibly not having an awesome game, just a good one.

I want Foster to have a good season, not one decent game limping around in Miami and end up missing another week for it anyway.
 
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Joeycharp89 said:
I have Arian on my Fantasy team, but I'd still rather him not take any risks. We are still early in the season, and we aren't exactly at risk of losing our play-off spot yet, so there shouldn't be that much pressure on us. Especially due to whatever everyone else has been saying, we have a really great depth at running back. The only thing that we seem to risk by using Tate/Slaton instead of Foster, is possibly not having an awesome game, just a good one.


I want Foster to have a good season, not one decent game limping around in Miami and end up missing another week for it anyway.
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If he does pull it again, it won't be just "another week."
 
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Texan_Bill said:
I'm asking a serious question and let me preface by saying I'm glad AF is back, but my question is this: How will AF's return be a "boost" to the offense? Tate ran for 116 (IIRC) which is what would be AF would run for... give or take.

Again, I'm asking a serious question AND I'm glad AF will return!
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thunderkyss said:
Against the Colts run defense? That should have been 231 yards.

That's how. Against Miami, Tate may be good for 88 yards, where Foster could get 130.. who knows?

But I agree 100% with Rey, Tate & Ward left a lot on the field that Arian would have gobbled up.
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Marcus said:
I think the L word (loyalty) is coloring some judgments here regarding who is better than who, particularly among the fantasy football crowd.

Tate is just getting started. And he's got breakaway speed. Yes, he runs different than Arian, but that doesn't mean anything. That show he put on in that one game in preseason is just a taste of what he can bring to the table if he's healthy.

And he's got breakaway speed. (Oh yeah, I mentioned that already)
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Tate hasn't shown the breakaway speed yet this year. I'm still waiting to see if he ever gets back to the level of the guy we drafted.
 
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