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"Bears may have found gold in Okoye"

IDEXAN said:
Amobi Okoye (two sacks, two tackles for loss, two quarterback hits) is one of the four castoff No. 1 picks added by the Bears and right now the Houston Texans should be asking, “What were we thinking?” Okoye has the ability to collapse pockets, pursue and also take on double teams if the need is for a nose tackle beyond Anthony Adams and steven Paea.
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FTTFY

(fixed the title for you)
 
He also has a knack for playing 2 or 3 great games about once every 1.5 years when his motivation is questioned....like getting cut from the Texans.

He'll be invisible by game 1 of the regular season, although I don't blame the Bears for giving him a chance. Now, he'll play his butt off to take a spot from somebody else and then go back to his disappearing act.
 
The reason he was let go here was not because he was a bad player. He wasn't. It was because he just did not fit into a 3-4 scheme.
 
He wasn't motivated to play in Houston, that much is obvious. Maybe if he finds that in Chicago, he'll be a better player. And maybe the Bears find out exactly why he was released from Houston.
 
why am I not surprised? now he is in a real scheme that is co-ordinating by qualified, experienced, and proven DCs. Has Okoye EVER had that in Texas? NO!!!!

That is on you, Rickiak and is due to your lack of a defensive coaching network and a paranoia over your offensive scheme's 'secrets' being disseminated amongst the defensive coaching networks of the NFL. Either that or its just that you are incompetent. Maybe both.

At least McNair and being 32nd best defense in the league forced your hand to go outside of your network of failed Denver defensive coaches and go out and get someone who is proven and at least somewhat coveted. Phillips may not bring the traits to our defense that we need (more passion, more intensity, more consistency) he will bring us a proven scheme that is not cookie cutter and disguises what they do.

I have said it before and I will say it again. Rick Smith and Gary Kubiak better thank their lucky stars that they found gold in Arian Foster. Foster's play saved those guys jobs. No doubt.

GO TEXANS!! cant wait
 
Thorn said:
He wasn't motivated to play in Houston, that much is obvious.
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You can say that about the entire team last season. Until we get a head coach with some nads I don't see that changing much and all McNair did was bring in another "aw shucks" guy. Maybe he felt between the two they met have a set.
 
Its one preseason game. Lets see this play out into the season at least before we come to any conclusions.

I dont care what scheme you put Mario Williams in, is going to have a visible impact no matter.
 
Many players get cut, face reality, and find a new way to dedicate themselves.

If he pans out, good for him on a personal level - Was always a nice guy.

Shame on him for not doing it on the Texans, but hey.
 
Hookem Horns said:
You can say that about the entire team last season. Until we get a head coach with some nads I don't see that changing much and all McNair did was bring in another "aw shucks" guy. Maybe he felt between the two they met have a set.
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Conjoined non-twins?
 
Given Okoye's history with us I question the credentials or any writer questioning the Texans' decision to release him.

If there is any team he could realize his potential with, it would be Chicago. I hope he does. But, that doesn't mean the Texans were wrong in releasing him. He had proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he would never be a player with us. The transition to a 3-4 only compounded that issue.
 
Hookem Horns said:
You can say that about the entire team last season. Until we get a head coach with some nads I don't see that changing much and all McNair did was bring in another "aw shucks" guy. Maybe he felt between the two they met have a set.
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Sorta extending the "2 heads and 4 hands principle"?:wadepalm::kubepalm:
 
Good for him, hope he resurrects his career. He was mediocre here, but how much of that was from poor coaching? :shrug:
 
Good for him! I hope he does live up to his potential with Chicago. Having one of the best defensive coordinators in the league will help alot.

Also, like someone else said. He didnt really fit the new scheme.
 
nero THE zero said:
Jason Allen, for instance.
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This is getting ridiculous.

Jason Allen hasn't done squat (so far).... no more than Will Demps or Bernard Pollard. He hasn't proven to be any different than that under achiever Miami released (cut) last season.

Maybe he was the best corner back on this team in 2010. The same could have been said about Carlos Rogers or DeAngelo Hall had they been here.

As far as Amobi goes, I got two words.

Coverage Sack.


How many of those have you seen from the Texans Defense? I'm not saying that Amobi would have looked like that stud we thought we were drafting if the pass defense (LBs, Safeties, & Corners) did a half decent job, but he wouldn't have been as invisible as he appeared (he still got a lot of hurries & QB hits). Antonio & Amobi were always a split second shy of getting a sack. I know Antonio has averaged 4 a year since he's been here, but that's equivalent to a DT averaging 1 or 2 a year.

Mario is another one. We're waiting for him to develop into a game changer... he hasn't dominated the way he should, so far. He's also not had the luxury of a QB who had to pull the ball down frequently, or hesitate, or second guess himself.

But he's got more hits & sacks on the hardest man to knock down.

Coverage sack... we need more of them.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
At least McNair and being 32nd best defense in the league forced your hand to go outside of your network of failed Denver defensive coaches and go out and get someone who is proven and at least somewhat coveted.
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We weren't 32nd in defense..... we were 30th, the same place we were when Kubiak got here.

& Wade was a Denver defensive coach.


:kitten:
 
MojoMan said:
The reason he was let go here was not because he was a bad player. He wasn't. It was because he just did not fit into a 3-4 scheme.
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It's because he was a bad player.


And I don't even know why this is being discussed really. He is gone now. He is another team's problem. Who cares what happens to Okoye at this point.
 
Texecutioner said:
It's because he was a bad player.


And I don't even know why this is being discussed really. He is gone now. He is another team's problem. Who cares what happens to Okoye at this point.
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He was not a bad player. He just failed to live up to many people's expectations of how should have performed as the #10 overall pick in the draft a few years ago.

Overpaid? perhaps. A flat-out bad player? No, he was not.
 
Against the Bills? One of the worst O-lines in all of the NFL? lol...

Call me when he does it in the regular season.
 
thunderkyss said:
This is getting ridiculous.

Jason Allen hasn't done squat (so far).... no more than Will Demps or Bernard Pollard. He hasn't proven to be any different than that under achiever Miami released (cut) last season.
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Ya, if by "squat" you mean 3 INT in 7 games.

In that case, we need a lot more players not doing squat for us. We'd be a better football team for it.
 
There must have been a check made out to a Nigerian elementary school in the backfield for him to be taking the time to get back there that much.

Seriously, though: Good for him. He should have plenty more of those when he's facing teams in the reg season. Oh wait, teams don't play their 2nd teamers in reg season games. My bad.

There's only one Nigerian Nightmare. Amobi will have to settle for the nickname of The Nigerian Daydream. As a fan of The Nigerian Daydream, you spend all your time staring off into space just dreaming of all the places he'll take you.

Sigh....(shakes head violently and snaps out of daydream) Now, where were we?
 
gtexan02 said:
I think GPs point was that Amobi was going against 2nd string OL. Most teams don't rotate their OL as frequently as their DL, especially interior players
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Don't bother.

If I say the sky is blue, Icak replies to me and says "No it's not."

He is the Iceman to my Maverick.
 
GP said:
Don't bother.

If I say the sky is blue, Icak replies to me and says "No it's not."

He is the Iceman to my Maverick.
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You do know Iceman was the cooler of the two?


Maverick was a little girly boy.

who could fly.


& banged Kim Bassinger.....

But Iceman got his name on the plaque at Top Gun.

:kitten:
 
thunderkyss said:
You do know Iceman was the cooler of the two?


Maverick was a little girly boy.

who could fly.


& banged Kim Bassinger.....

But Iceman got his name on the plaque at Top Gun.

:kitten:
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You got the actress wrong.

Who is my Goose on here? Which lucky guy gets to be my sidekick who dies?
 
Texecutioner said:
It's because he was a bad player.


And I don't even know why this is being discussed really. He is gone now. He is another team's problem. Who cares what happens to Okoye at this point.
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Nope. he wasn't a bad player. He was a good run stopper. He was poor as a rusher. You don't draft run stoppers that high, that's why people thought he was a bad player.

If he was drafted in the 3rd round, he would have been thought of as a solid rotational player, certainly not a bad player.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
But still gets the better looking chick?

Meg Ryan > Kelly McGillis
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So I am being led to believe that being Maverick is worse than being Iceman...and now also worse than being Goose???

LOL. Only here can it go from on-topic to off-topic at a pace of Mach 3.
 
GP said:
So I am being led to believe that being Maverick is worse than being Iceman...and now also worse than being Goose???

LOL. Only here can it go from on-topic to off-topic at a pace of Mach 3.
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It goes something like this:

Viper
Jester
Iceman
Goose
Cougar
Merlin
Maverick
Slider
 
thunderkyss said:
You do know Iceman was the cooler of the two?


Maverick was a little girly boy.

who could fly.


& banged Kim Bassinger.....

But Iceman got his name on the plaque at Top Gun.

:kitten:
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This was not a good "Top Gun" depiction TK.

For one, that wasn't Kim Basinger that Maverick banged in that movie. It was Kelly Mcgillis.

And Tom Cruise became a much bigger star than Kilmer did after Top Gun was out. Tom Cruise became the biggest mega star actor there was at the time after Top Gun.
 
Texecutioner said:
This was not a good "Top Gun" depiction TK.

For one, that wasn't Kim Basinger that Maverick banged in that movie. It was Kelly Mcgillis.

And Tom Cruise became a much bigger star than Kilmer did after Top Gun was out. Tom Cruise became the biggest mega star actor there was at the time after Top Gun.
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For the purpose of the analogy we are seperating the character of Pete Mitchell aka Maverick from Tom Cruise.

If we didn't Tom Cruise/Maverick would be at the bottom cause Tom Cruise is a crazy, douche bag.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
It goes something like this:

Viper
Jester
Iceman
Goose
Cougar
Merlin
Maverick
Slider
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Wait a second.

What is your order there?

Viper is the instructor at Top Gun. Is he "last" in your order?

How is MERLIN near Maverick? The guy had a star and a crescent moon decal on each side of his helmet :shakeweightmotion:

Boooo!!!! BOOOOO!!!!!!
 
GP said:
Wait a second.

What is your order there?

Viper is the instructor at Top Gun. Is he "last" in your order?

How is MERLIN near Maverick? The guy had a star and a crescent moon decal on each side of his helmet :shakeweightmotion:

Boooo!!!! BOOOOO!!!!!!
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No, apparently, he put Maverick almost last in the whole thing.

Why are we talking about a 25+ year old movie?
 
GP said:
Wait a second.

What is your order there?

Viper is the instructor at Top Gun. Is he "last" in your order?

How is MERLIN near Maverick? The guy had a star and a crescent moon decal on each side of his helmet :shakeweightmotion:

Boooo!!!! BOOOOO!!!!!!
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HJam72 said:
No, apparently, he put Maverick almost last in the whole thing.

Why are we talking about a 25+ year old movie?
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Viper is tops, and to clarify Slider is last.

and

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I always wondered why ESPN and other media outlets don't come here and then go use what we talk about on their shows...

I think I figured out why.
 
MojoMan said:
The reason he was let go here was not because he was a bad player. He wasn't. It was because he just did not fit into a 3-4 scheme.
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If he was so damn good someone would have traded for him and the Texans wouldnt have just released him.

Then again base don past history we may have reverted back to our old selves.......Okoye 1st team All Pro this year.
 
DX-TEX said:
If he was so damn good someone would have traded for him and the Texans wouldnt have just released him.

Then again base don past history we may have reverted back to our old selves.......Okoye 1st team All Pro this year.
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Why trade for someone that you believe you can pick up on waivers soon?

Chicago did the smart thing by waiting. And now it looks like they have a player they are happy with. No one should be all that surprised by this.
 
MojoMan said:
Why trade for someone that you believe you can pick up on waivers soon?

Chicago did the smart thing by waiting. And now it looks like they have a player they are happy with. No one should be all that surprised by this.
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Hence, if he was "so good" they wouldnt have waived him but get him and started taking offers. When someone is "that good" and doesnt fit your system you dont just release him.
 
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