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Arian Foster pulls hamstring in his first 2011 practice

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Hate to be the bearer of BAD news!

Really surprised this isn't already on here!

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/05/arian-foster-pulls-hamstring-in-his-first-2011-practice/

Texans tailback Arian Foster, the NFL’s leading rusher in 2010, has seen his quest for a repeat derailed temporarily via a pulled hamstring.

Per Dale Robertson of the Houston Chronicle, Foster suffered the injury on a 40-yard touchdown run during the first play of an 11-on-11 scrimmage.

It was Foster’s first practice since signing a one-year exclusive rights tender offer on Sunday.

Foster showed up later in the day with the leg heavily wrapped.

:toropalm:
 
beerlover said:
How does this stuff keep slipping by McLame?

:toropalm:
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fixed it for you, which is pretty much the answer to your question.

I pretty much refuse to read whatever drivel he produces. It would be nice if the Chron would get an actual real sportswriter on staff.
 
GlassHalfFull said:
fixed it for you, which is pretty much the answer to your question.

I pretty much refuse to read whatever drivel he produces. It would be nice if the Chron would get an actual real sportswriter on staff.
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They do. Dale Roberson
 
Hopefully this isn't lingering. Hamstrings can be a long recovery if you don't let it heal. They should just sit him as long as possible.

As far as McClain, go read one of his chats. It is 1 hour of nothing. He never has info, snaps at questions and repeats the same answer over and over. Before FA he spent a long time answering questions and the only thing he said was "the Texans don't have cap money so they can't sign big names." When someone asked who he thought they might go after his response was "how am I supposed to know" basically. I can't stand the guy...went from being a good football guy to a toad who is grouchy and who knows nothing.
 
So this is what happens when Foster is off being a TV star instead of keeping himself fit and in shape and ready for TC to begin ?
 
Another example of under reporting injuries. Initially, "tight" (cramped) hamstring and removed from practice "as a precaution"..........to "pulled" (which is a mild tear already) hamstring. Don't be surprised if the next report relates "torn" (significant tear) hamstring.:toropalm:
 
beerlover said:
How does this stuff keep slipping by McClain?

:toropalm:
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He's been in Canton Ohio for the Hall of Fame ceremonies, it wouldn't be his job to report what went on in camp Friday. If you're going to bash someone at least let it be for something he'd be responsible for.
 
GlassHalfFull said:
fixed it for you, which is pretty much the answer to your question.

I pretty much refuse to read whatever drivel he produces. It would be nice if the Chron would get an actual real sportswriter on staff.
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They do. Her name is Steph Stradley, except she's not paid and she holds down a real job all week long.

Her stuff is electric.
 
GP said:
They do. Her name is Steph Stradley, except she's not paid and she holds down a real job all week long.

Her stuff is electric.
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Not to get nit-picky, because I agree with your point, while TC may be better than anyone actually "On staff", it doesn't get the Chronicle off the hook. Case in point - one of Steph's most recent tweets:

StephStradley Stephanie Stradley
Alas, I likely am done w/ #Texans at camp reports thru MNF game. Fun family obligations. At least I got you thru when public camps happen :)
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C'mon Chron - show some embarrassment that you're two best and most relevant Texans writers are unpaid (I think) bloggers and do right by your readers.

Editorial comment: Used to absolutely love John McClain, and still can't really find it in me to dislike him even now - just don't see how his current role does much to increase my knowledge of the Texans, or the enjoyment of being a NFL fan. On the otherhand, LZ and TC rock.
 
ChampionTexan said:
Not to get nit-picky, because I agree with your point, while TC may be better than anyone actually "On staff", it doesn't get the Chronicle off the hook. Case in point - one of Steph's most recent tweets:



C'mon Chron - show some embarrassment that you're two best and most relevant Texans writers are unpaid (I think) bloggers and do right by your readers.

Editorial comment: Used to absolutely love John McClain, and still can't really find it in me to dislike him even now - just don't see how his current role does much to increase my knowledge of the Texans, or the enjoyment of being a NFL fan. On the otherhand, LZ and TC rock.
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I can't believe I'm going to be a McLain apologist but although Stephanie does have the best blog besides possible Feighen on the Chronicle, LZ is the most over rated blogger in the history of blogs. He comes up with an occasional very good blog but more often than not its drivel. Although he and Granato have the most creative radio sports show in Houston radio.

When Melanie Hauser was let go as the Texans beat writer they took McLain from and NFL writer which he was very good at to the Texans beat writer which made him someone who reports Texans news and not the opinion/editorial writer he was and is best at. To use an example of something he called out months ago was that the Texans wouldn't win the Nmandi sweepstakes and would be better off going after Joseph and a safety. He got blasted constantly for that opinion but it turned out he was dead on the money. Just because the butt heads that populate his blogs seem clueless or ask the same question 10,000 times a chat doesn't mean he's terrible.
 
IDEXAN said:
So this is what happens when Foster is off being a TV star instead of keeping himself fit and in shape and ready for TC to begin ?
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:rolleyes:

And it only took 7 posts to get the the obligatory "he must of been slacking off" post. Arian Foster wasn't off being a "TV star" and he has been training this summer. He's been working with his brother all offseason, the same thing he did last offseason. Why the heck do people have to automatically slam a player just because he suffered a injury? Pulled hammies happen all the time...and they even happen to well trained athletes.

LMAO, you honestly think a player who played with a torn knee ligament out of fear of losing his job isn't going to work and train in the offseason? Really?
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Honestly... as good as Foster is, Tate could be better. At the very worst, I don't think Tate is a step down.
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That's the concern Foster has. If he misses too much time, Tate gets the carries and may take Foster's job. In a perfect world, I would like to see Foster get 15 carries a game, Ward get about 10, and Tate get 7. If we can run 32 times a game, I think we win.
 
why should we pay anyone, when we can get bettter writers/bloggers with better info for free?

signed,
the chomical

*I am glad I don't pay for their stupid newspaper*
(or any )
 
nytexan said:
I can't believe I'm going to be a McLain apologist but although Stephanie does have the best blog besides possible Feighen on the Chronicle, LZ is the most over rated blogger in the history of blogs. He comes up with an occasional very good blog but more often than not its drivel. Although he and Granato have the most creative radio sports show in Houston radio.

When Melanie Hauser was let go as the Texans beat writer they took McLain from and NFL writer which he was very good at to the Texans beat writer which made him someone who reports Texans news and not the opinion/editorial writer he was and is best at. To use an example of something he called out months ago was that the Texans wouldn't win the Nmandi sweepstakes and would be better off going after Joseph and a safety. He got blasted constantly for that opinion but it turned out he was dead on the money. Just because the butt heads that populate his blogs seem clueless or ask the same question 10,000 times a chat doesn't mean he's terrible.
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See, you think the fact we didn't end up with Nnamdi proved him right, and I very much disagree with that position. I also don't remember a single instance (prior to it being made clear that the Texans believed they could clear significant cap room if and when needed) where McClain predicted they would (or should) go after Joseph. Got any sources on that (prior to the time it became obvious to everyone)?

He got blasted for the comment because his main (and virtually only) rationale for why the Texans wouldn't get Nnamdi was because they would never be able to fit him under the cap. He was also on record as late as mid-July as saying the Texans couldn't afford any of the top FA's (Which Joseph was universally considered to be).

Can the Texans make cap space for a big FA? - John McClain went on the radio this morning and said that there’s no way the Texans can sign Nnamdi Asomugha or a top free agent because of the team’s cap situation. First of all, consider the source. McClain is certainly well-connected and often has the inside scoop… but cap talk is not his area of expertise. It’s not mine either, but I’m good at stuff like… thinking and reasoning. We don’t yet know what the new salary cap will be. Some have said $120 million. Some have said $127 million. Some have said that the salary floor is actually going to be $120 million. Hopefully by the end of the week some more light will be shed on the issue.
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And a tweet from McClain:

McClain_on_NFL John McClain
I'll be shocked if the Texans sign Asomugha. They're up against the cap and have a lot of needs. Won't put all their eggs in his basket.
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As we know, most sources believe that the Texans actually offered more than the Eagles, so cap room (or lack thereof) was clearly not a problem they felt was insurmountable. Additionally, the fact that they did so indicated they either were putting all of their eggs in one basket, or they felt they could still clear up enough room to add a safety. We'll never know which.
 
Alright so I'm an id!ot when it comes to the seriousness of injuries. So how bad is this situation?
 
Ckw said:
Alright so I'm an id!ot when it comes to the seriousness of injuries. So how bad is this situation?
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That's the problem. We don't know. With the way Texans report injuries, this could be career ending or it could be something where he's fine and back on the field tomorrow.
 
Ckw said:
Alright so I'm an id!ot when it comes to the seriousness of injuries. So how bad is this situation?
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Hamstring injuries are extremely tricky. If allowed enough time to heal Foster could come back 100% and have no issues at all. If he tries to come back too soon it could develop into a nagging injury that he struggles with all season. This is not shocking news considering the heat we've struggled with this past week.

I would pretty much sit Arian Foster and save him for the regular season. Maybe give him a few touches in the last preseason game.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
That's the problem. We don't know. With the way Texans report injuries, this could be career ending or it could be something where he's fine and back on the field tomorrow.
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So given that fact plus the quality of our backups I'm not ready to climb out onto the ledge just yet.

let's see how it all unfolds
 
Here is a partial transcript (the parts pertaining to this subject) of the post practice media session from this morning:

Link:
http://texans.studiotigaapps.net/transcripts/august-6,-2011-am-practice.aspx


Head Coach Gary Kubiak:
(on the status of WR Andre Johnson and RB Arian Foster) "I think Andre (Johnson) could practice tomorrow. We'll see. I think Arian's (Foster) definitely going to miss a few days. I think he'll be day-to-day, but he won't be back before we come back from our break after tomorrow."
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RB Arian Foster:
(on if he is in a precautionary mode with his hamstring injury) "I think anytime you have a hamstring injury, you have to rest it. That's the only thing that can heal it. So that's what we're doing right now."

(on if he is worried about his hamstring injury) "No."

(on if he had a little too much energy or pent-up adrenaline when he injured his hamstring) "Probably. I probably was going a little bit too hard, feeling good being back on the first day, but that's part of life, so you have to roll with it."

(on his initial reaction when he realized he tweaked his hamstring) "I tweaked my hamstring."

(on head coach Gary Kubiak's comment that he has problems with his hamstring in the past) "Well, I popped my hamstring in the Senior Bowl and then I had tweaked in training camp my rookie year."

(on how long it took him to feel good the last time he tweaked his hamstring) "About a week."

(on if his last hamstring injury was on the same leg) "I can't even remember, actually. I think it might have been the other one."

(on if a hamstring injury is frightening for a running back) "No. Knee injuries are frightening. Hamstrings are part of the business."

(on what he can do to work his way back to health with his injury) "Rest. Lightly stretch it with a little bit of ice."

(on what he can gain from watching practice instead of participating) "You just get to sharpen your skills mentally. You get to see the plays before they're ran, so you see them. You just go over your assignment and get more detailed mentally."

(on if there is a part of him that wants to prove that his performance last year wasn't a fluke) "No. I'm not trying to prove anybody wrong. I'm trying to play the game of football. I can't go around trying to prove everybody right, or wrong."

(on if the media can expect to see 1,400- and 1,500-yard performances from him every year) "You can expect whatever you want. I'm just going to go play the game."

(on if he just goes out with the mindset to run to daylight) "Yeah. You can't worry about what people think. People are negative. People are dream-killers. You can't worry about what they think."

(on what he's seen from FB Lawrence Vickers since he joined the team) "Well, he's still learning the system and things like that but I'm more than confident he'll come along and be a valuable option for us."

(on his level of concern about his hamstring injury) "It's just a hamstring. It's a muscle, a soft-tissue injury that will heal, eventually."

(on how frustrating it is to pull his hamstring) "You want to be out here practicing with you teammates. It gets a little frustrating."
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Hopefully this time next week Foster will be able to practice.....I would not be surprised if the Texans hold him out of Jets game......:texflag::logo::texan:
 
ChampionTexan said:
See, you think the fact we didn't end up with Nnamdi proved him right, and I very much disagree with that position. I also don't remember a single instance (prior to it being made clear that the Texans believed they could clear significant cap room if and when needed) where McClain predicted they would (or should) go after Joseph. Got any sources on that (prior to the time it became obvious to everyone)?
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Ike Taylor is the top corner after Nnamdi unless FA returns to four years, then Jonathan Joseph would be their target. May 2011 chat.
I'm not trying to change your position on the guy, just trying to be fair and at my age I don't get the McLame and other derogatory remarks about people you may not care for or disagree with. You can (not necessarily you) have an opinion that is different from others without the name calling. I'm out.
 
This didn't "slip by" us, it was in the Practice Update thread. Its not a big deal and he'll be able to play this season, chillax
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Did anyone see Foster, especially today? If so, was he limping at all?
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I can't find anything that says that, but he stayed on the field after the injury.

Unfortunately, Foster finished clutching his left hamstring, the grimace on his face speaking volumes. It would be his last carry of the day.

What happened? Foster declined to say, rebuffing interview requests after each session. In the afternoon, he did nothing but stand in as the faux quarterback during a running-back drill and spectate. In parting, he promised to discuss the injury, which could be nothing or could be a hindrance for weeks, today, when the Texans will be in full pads for an open-to-the public practice that starts at 8 a.m.,
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nytexan said:
Ike Taylor is the top corner after Nnamdi unless FA returns to four years, then Jonathan Joseph would be their target. May 2011 chat.
I'm not trying to change your position on the guy, just trying to be fair and at my age I don't get the McLame and other derogatory remarks about people you may not care for or disagree with. You can (not necessarily you) have an opinion that is different from others without the name calling. I'm out.
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I don't get the vitriol, hatred and name calling some folks seem to resort to either - especially since I would guess the majority are getting everything he writes, blogs, tweets and says on the radio absolutely free of charge. It's also curious that this response is generated not by the expression of a divisive or controversial opinion - ala Justice or even Solomon, rather by what could be considered a homeristic POV. But I guess that's just the way some folks handle a relatively anonymous forum.

I do understand the stance of those who simply feel that for whatever reason, he no longer puts forth a meaningful and compelling product (and for the record, I still subscribe to the Chronicle, and have no plans to change that).
 
Rest, rest, rest. Don't see much of a need in over working he or AJ this preseason. Schaub either, See what we have in the skill position depths. Leinart, Yates, Dickerson, Maehl, Jones, Toliver, Tate, Ward, Slaton. Really see what these guys are gonna bring this season.
 
TimeKiller said:
Rest, rest, rest. Don't see much of a need in over working he or AJ this preseason. Schaub either, See what we have in the skill position depths. Leinart, Yates, Dickerson, Maehl, Jones, Toliver, Tate, Ward, Slaton. Really see what these guys are gonna bring this season.
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This.
 
ChampionTexan said:
I don't get the vitriol, hatred and name calling some folks seem to resort to either - especially since I would guess the majority are getting everything he writes, blogs, tweets and says on the radio absolutely free of charge. It's also curious that this response is generated not by the expression of a divisive or controversial opinion - ala Justice or even Solomon, rather by what could be considered a homeristic POV. But I guess that's just the way some folks handle a relatively anonymous forum.

I do understand the stance of those who simply feel that for whatever reason, he no longer puts forth a meaningful and compelling product (and for the record, I still subscribe to the Chronicle, and have no plans to change that).
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My frustration is with the poor coverage of the Texans. McClain, as the Texans/NFL beat writer for the Texans, is the prime example of that. His efforts are lazy, uninformative, and poorly written. I don't hate him for it but I certainly don't respect the poor product he puts out nor his uninspired work ethic.
 
IDEXAN said:
So this is what happens when Foster is off being a TV star instead of keeping himself fit and in shape and ready for TC to begin ?
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Stirring the pot, huh? :stirpot:
CloakNNNdagger said:
Don't be surprised if the next report relates "torn" (significant tear) hamstring.:toropalm:
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Can you really tear your hamstring from just sprinting? I've had all of the above (cramp, pull, and tear). But it took all of my weight bearing on my hamstring (in a skiing accident) to actually produce a tear. It seems as if they would know if the hamstring is torn by the hideous bruise it leaves behind.
 
ChampionTexan said:
And a tweet from McClain:

Quote:
McClain_on_NFL John McClain
I'll be shocked if the Texans sign Asomugha. They're up against the cap and have a lot of needs. Won't put all their eggs in his basket.

As we know, most sources believe that the Texans actually offered more than the Eagles, so cap room (or lack thereof) was clearly not a problem they felt was insurmountable. Additionally, the fact that they did so indicated they either were putting all of their eggs in one basket, or they felt they could still clear up enough room to add a safety. We'll never know which.
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I am not sure this one helps your argument. He says we have a lot of needs, and dont want to put all of our eggs in one basket,etc. So if we get Aso, do we then get Manning? No, we cover more needs this way. Even still, we had multiple players that had to sit out early to restructure contracts just to get back under the cap. I think only 7 or 8 teams had players sitting out by the time camp rolled around. Seems this tweet was right on.

Back to Foster... the dude better take all the time he needs to get this leg right.
 
ObsiWan said:
If limping vs. not limping, what would that tell you? I sense you're seeking to determine whether the muscle is actually torn or just strained...
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A minor hamstring strain is a Class I strain. It reflects isolated microscopic muscular fiber tears, usually involving a fingertip area, and can usually be treated conservatively over about 4 days or so. A Class II strain is a more significant gross tear involving a significant number of muscle fibers of the muscle over a larger area. This injury should be rested for at least 2-3 weeks. A Class III strain reflects a complete rupture of the muscle. With a Class II strain you may or may not have bruising. If he is limping, he is likely to have suffered a Class II strain. Significant muscle spasm and weakness will accompany this injury. As far as Grade III, there should be no question of the diagnosis after physical exam.........and no confusion with Class I or II strain.


Lucky said:
Stirring the pot, huh? :stirpot:

Can you really tear your hamstring from just sprinting? I've had all of the above (cramp, pull, and tear). But it took all of my weight bearing on my hamstring (in a skiing accident) to actually produce a tear. It seems as if they would know if the hamstring is torn by the hideous bruise it leaves behind.
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That is one of the classic activities that can lead to a hamstring tear. Your muscle is trying to contract while another force (the ground, another player, etc.) is forcing the muscle in the opposite direction. This leads to severe opposing tension on the muscle, and depending on the force, it can result in tearing of various degree.

It can also occur when the quads are too much stronger than the hamstrings (the hammy should be no less than 60% the strength of the quad). Not warming up and having the hamstring unstretched commonly will put the hamstring at risk. Dehydration can also put the hamstring significantly at risk in that this condition leads to cramping which is contraction (shortening) of the muscle. Anything that shortens this muscle will encourage the stronger opposing muscle group (in this case the quad) to unnaturally force a re-stretch, and thus a tear. There are several other factors that can come into play, but you get the idea.
 
First Foster, now Tate unable to practice due to a "tight" hamstring.

Ben Tate not ready to seize his opportunity


Last year, Texans running back Arian Foster played with a knee injury because he feared losing his job if he missed time. This year, with Foster suffering a hamstring injury on his first carry of 11-on-11 drills and 2010 second-rounder Ben Tate back after missing all of last season with a broken ankle, the undrafted Foster surely was concerned that the player who entered with higher expectations will have a shot at changing the name on the back of Arian’s jersey to “Pipp.”

But Tate isn’t quite ready to try to take over. Coach Gary Kubiak told reporters on Sunday that Tate wasn’t able to practice, due to a hamstring problem of his own.

“He came out, warmed up and said his hamstring was tight, so we moved on,” Kubiak said, via quotes distributed by the team. “Derrick [Ward] was back. That group right there has been impressive the last couple days in their work habits and getting the reps that they’re getting. Hopefully he’s back later on.”

Tate entered camp at fourth on the depth chart, behind Foster, Steve Slaton, and Derrick Ward. With Foster out and Slaton possibly on the trade block, Tate needs to stay on the field in order to ultimately stay on the roster.

“Last year at this time, we had no idea who . . . our back was,” Kubiak recently said, per the Houston Chronicle. “Right now, we think we’ve got too many. Let’s just let them all play and see what happens.”

In the end, anything can happen. Indeed, who would have guessed a year ago that a guy who seemed destined for the waiver wire and practice squad would end up leading the entire league in rushing?
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Why do injuries always happen to this team? WHY??? I mean couldn't Manning, Chrish Johnson get hurt too.
 
El Tejano said:
Why do injuries always happen to this team? WHY??? I mean couldn't Manning, Chrish Johnson get hurt too.
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Well in the case of the two mentioned, they'd have to be on the field first. Forehead is out with a neck and Johnson is butthurt over his contract.
 
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