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Ty Warren interested in Texans
- Thread starter Wolf
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Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
I'd take him in a second if I felt he wasn't here as a last resort like some others that have come this way .
Doppelganger
None
"Warren failed his physical with the Patriots"
So, why would we want him?
So, why would we want him?
Errant Hothy
Hypermediocrity
I'd be very cautious.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Typical texans fans. Wade hade ted washignton,pat williams,and jamaal williams, yet people want to take a really good 5 technique and make him a nt? He's better than any 5 technique the texans have. He's played at a high level, still pretty good and he's from the area. Why on earth would he play the nt is beyond me. As I said earlier and in previous post, the texans need to see the cost to cut smith or trade him and bring warren in.
Errant Hothy
Hypermediocrity
Trade for a player who missed all of last season with a hip injury and just failed a physical? Why?
El Tejano
Hall of Fame
Just go over there, and turn over the rock and leaf and if he's got something bring him on. I want a stout defense. A very strong defense. Right now, he would be good depth. We just signed Tim Bulman but Warren is much better than him. That would give us some very good rotation.
fiasco west
All Pro
You want to cut our 2nd best Dlinemen for a player that didn't pass a physical and was injured all last season?
I'm all for bringing in Ty, but at a bargain price.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
In the nfl, teams will fail a guy on a physical to get rid of his contract. There have been a lot of players fail a teams physical, get cut, and pass 10 other teams physical. Its the way they do business. He missed last season, but sidney rice missed most of last year with a hip and sill got paid. Cromrtie his last yr in sd had a. Hip problem, goes to the jets and plays well. Bring him in, check him out with your doctors, and if he checks out, sign him. He will be the best lineman not named mario on the roster.
srrono
All Pro
well if he can pass physical here and is on the cheap I would like the depth.
ChampionTexan
Hall of Fame
Why would they need to have a player fail a physical to get rid of his contract?
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Smith didn't play to his contrract and now he's about to play the 3-4. In arizona, they play a lot of hybrid and he played average except for a playoff game or so. They let him walk and his replacement outplayed him, campbell. What are the texans expecting out of a 270lbs 5 technique? Show me a top ranked 3-4 with a 5 technique at 274. There aren't any in the league. So now they have to insert the safety in the box to protect not only a small de, but a small nt. Now the backend is exposed again. Think players, not schemes.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
The same way they put a guy on the pup list because of a conditioning test. The nfl does things like that all the time. Everyones physical is different and most times, its a reason to dump a player.
ChampionTexan
Hall of Fame
But you said they fail a player to get rid of his contract. Why would they bother with blaming it on a physical when virtually every contract in the NFL can be terminated for any reason without further financial obligation?
Also - give me a single example where a player has been placed on the PUP list because of a failed conditioning test.
Texan4Ever
All Pro
Maybe this isn't a fair comparison but Willie Roaf (OF) failed his physical which is why we couldn't draft him in the expansion draft and look at how his career went.
I would bring him in and get Wade's opinion on him and, if he signs a cheap contract it couldn't hurt to have him.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
I rest my case. The pats might play more 4-3 and on 3rd downs do the radar type tuff like cpers. 2-4-5 with vince and albert eating up 4 blockers and the bs standing around. As I stated before, he's better than any lineman not named wiliams.
b0ng
Bad Hombre
I thought the cards ran a hybrid system that had both alignments in there when they went to the SB with Antonio.
Also, ignore leebig, they have been saying to cut Antonio over and over and over again with no real reasoning behind it.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
I'm going to assume u understand simple football. I will also assume that you watch the league, not just the texans. The yr pendergrass ran the cards defense, it was a hybrid. That superbowl yr, DD was a man possessed inside and they were still middle of the pack. Smith had a couple of sacks inthe postseason and raised his value. His best yr, he had 5 sacks. Last yr playing opposite mario he had 4 sacks as a de. Now the txans are a 3-4 team and he's not suppose to get sacks, right? One yr, warren had 7.5 in a 3-4 and made all pro. Not pro bowl, all pro. It will be asking a lot and expecting more out of smith than what he's capable. He would probably be a better player and more productive as a olb than a 5 tech. So even if they were to sign warren, they could stand smith up and the defense is better served. Either way, warren is and has proven to be a better player than smith,mitchell,cody,bulman, and whomever else not named mario.
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
A.Smith was also the NFL leader in QB hits and among the leaders in pressures. Antonio is a highly versatile, high motor defensive lineman that should play very well as a 3-4 DE. By the way, after the bye week last season, teams were sliding protection away from Mario and towards Antonio. Check out the San Diego game when Mario gets manhandled by TEs over and over and over.
All that being said, if the Texans have an opportunity to sign Ty Warren for little money and he has the potential to be reasonably healthy, they MUST DO IT!!
b0ng
Bad Hombre
First off, that year that Warren got 7.5 sacks was not 2010 it was 2006, and second even if we do pick up Ty Warren that does not signify that we have to cut Smith for some unexplained reason, he has already stated he would palay for vet min here:
There is literally no reason to cut Smith right now.
The1ApplePie
Hall of Fame
Cut Amobi
Sign Warren
All is good
Sign Warren
All is good
We'll have a complete camp to determine if he's going to play or not.
I say bring him in, we need better quality on our DL Rotation.
Errant Hothy
Hypermediocrity
If he truly only wants the vet minimum and passes a medical, it needs to get done.
Brandon420tx
Flounder
Just because you can recognize a name (usually from Madden) doesn't mean that the player is automatically worth having on your team. Sometimes new unknown talent is what you need.
See - Arian Foster
See - Arian Foster
TexanSam
Hall of Fame
It's not much of a risk signing for the veteran minimum. Plus he's played in the 3-4 before which few players on the Texans D have done outside of Antonio Smith. He adds depth to our D-line.
DX-TEX
#TomSavageDontCare
And he actually wants to be here. Seems like he has lots of motivation.
cland
Waterboy
I agree with the concept, but disagree in this particular case. Ty Warren is only 30 and if he passes a physical and plays for the vet minimum would be an absolute steal IMO. If for nothing else than to show JJ Watt how to play the 5-tech and on the upside to enter in to the DL rotation.
The last CBA had a salary cap discount for veteran players, if the new cap has the same, then Warren would cost next to nothing. Just choose a random player (how about Trindon Holiday) and you have an even sum deal.
fiasco west
All Pro
Not sure what is going on....The dude says he's willing to take the vet minimum to play here? For the Texans?
This is a good feeling...to know that players think your team is a contender, for players to think of it as a privilege to play on your team. I could get used to this feeling.
This is a good feeling...to know that players think your team is a contender, for players to think of it as a privilege to play on your team. I could get used to this feeling.
painekiller
All Pro
I'm sorry but this seems like a no brainer.
Brandon420tx
Flounder
Vet minimum and an open roster spots makes this an ok signing if this happens. Didn't he fail a physical or something at NE before they released him?
I do get frustrated every offseason though, whenever a player who has had a good career in the past but is clearly on their downside is available all the "INSTANT UPGRADE!!" people come out of the woodwork
I do get frustrated every offseason though, whenever a player who has had a good career in the past but is clearly on their downside is available all the "INSTANT UPGRADE!!" people come out of the woodwork
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
Torn labrum in the hip is a serious and often degenerate injury. He may be done... Or, the Texans may believe he is. The Patriots thought he was.
cland
Waterboy
It's reported that he 'failed his physical' by not being able to complete his conditioning test, due to a hamstring pull. He's only 30 years old, has been dominant at the 3-4 DE position, and would provide a huge role model for rookie JJ Watt. If the Texans doctor's confirm, he's a gift horse at the veteran minimum.
found this
in this ESPN Insider article; "Ten Biggest NFL Injuries to Watch"
DeMeco was on the list also...
Yeah, crazy talk to say that we could look at him as nose since Wade has said he likes smaller guys there. I would be ok with a Smith trade if it improves your team, but a guy with an injury who failed a physical makes me hesitate to trade the guy infront of him and bring him in to start.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
I think smith would make a better olb than mario. Once again the texans will be. Counting on a snot kid to do a mans job. Bj raji didn't play well or even decent till his 2nd season, but the texans are expecting jj to do be good his 1st season? Poor transition by the texans.