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Kubiak 2011 coach of year?

badboy

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Wade Phillips turns defense as around as he has other teams and Gary Kubiak is able to focus on the offense and do his thing. Few will disagree that Kubes is an offensive guru & the O has looked good last few years and despite losing LT Duane Brown for several games, OD coming off injury and JJ missing some games due to injury in 2010. JJ may not return but the others should have better 2011 & don't forget how good Joel Dreesen looked. I'm thinking O will be even better now that Kubes knows what he has in Foster & that Arian can catch the ball. Only ifI see is if Tater Salad is all that he can be. This big fast RB could give us a 1-2-3 punch like no other team has had in my memory.

We go 12-4 and Gary could be coach of the year. For me this remains Kubiak final shot at doing what he was hired to do. Build a perennial play off machine.
 
badboy said:
Wade Phillips turns defense as around as he has other teams and Gary Kubiak is able to focus on the offense and do his thing. Few will disagree that Kubes is an offensive guru & the O has looked good last few years and despite losing LT Duane Brown for several games, OD coming off injury and JJ missing some games due to injury in 2010. JJ may not return but the others should have better 2011 & don't forget how good Joel Dreesen looked. I'm thinking O will be even better now that Kubes knows what he has in Foster & that Arian can catch the ball. Only ifI see is if Tater Salad is all that he can be. This big fast RB could give us a 1-2-3 punch like no other team has had in my memory.

We go 12-4 and Gary could be coach of the year. For me this remains Kubiak final shot at doing what he was hired to do. Build a perennial play off machine.
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Agree. I do believe now that kubiak has someone who actually knows how to run a defense we will be a big time contender. BUT if we do turn it around and make the play-offs and possible more i think Wade is the man you can think for that.
 
My marijuana is not as good stuff as you guys but this should be a do or die year for Kubiak it has to be.
 
maybe but I also get criticised for my early mocks of draft. Season will be starting soon so why not make predictions?
 
badboy said:
We go 12-4 and Gary could be coach of the year. For me this remains Kubiak final shot at doing what he was hired to do. Build a perennial play off machine.
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What made Denver's offense exciting to watch, was their "go for the throat" attitude. Just when the other team thought they could relax, it's the first play of the game, Denver had a big lead & was going to run the clock out..... Bam, Denver would kick them in the gnads with a big play. Either break a big run off the cut-back lane, or give them the rope-a-dope with the play action pass.

Kubiak's too damned conservative. & personally I think conservative is the wrong attitude for a young team of Alpha-Males.

& so is Wade.
 
thunderkyss said:
What made Denver's offense exciting to watch, was their "go for the throat" attitude. Just when the other team thought they could relax, it's the first play of the game, Denver had a big lead & was going to run the clock out..... Bam, Denver would kick them in the gnads with a big play. Either break a big run off the cut-back lane, or give them the rope-a-dope with the play action pass.

Kubiak's too damned conservative. & personally I think conservative is the wrong attitude for a young team of Alpha-Males.

& so is Wade.
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TK, I'm going to McDonald's and getting you a damned Happy Meal. You need to listen to the "Happy,Happy,Joy,Joy" song, man.
 
If the Defense has a turnaround and performs well but we still miss the playoffs and Kubiak gets the boot, is Wade just gonna be moved up into the Head Coaching spot? I really hope not bc while he is a great coordinator, i think its become pretty clear that he isnt any better of a Head Coach than Kubiak. We will just end up making excuses for him based in stats for another 3 years or so. If Kubes goes then we HAVE to get a person for outside the organization. But when he was hired everyone was saying that he was an insurance policy in case Kubes had to go.

I realize this is the complete opposite as the original point of the thread but I just wanted yalls thoughts on Wades future here.
 
thunderkyss said:
What made Denver's offense exciting to watch, was their "go for the throat" attitude. Just when the other team thought they could relax, it's the first play of the game, Denver had a big lead & was going to run the clock out..... Bam, Denver would kick them in the gnads with a big play. Either break a big run off the cut-back lane, or give them the rope-a-dope with the play action pass.

Kubiak's too damned conservative. & personally I think conservative is the wrong attitude for a young team of Alpha-Males.

& so is Wade.
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This....... part of the reason I loved watching the Saints SB win, I loved the on-side...... NOT because it worked (that it worked only proves it was the right call) but because it took HUGE balls to call that. Knew they had to do something so made the call to give his guys the chance.

Do I want someone wreck less...... NO! but this league is not won by the faint of heart (usually), IF the Texans were at the SB and needing an equally gutsy call...... I think we would ride the conservative coat tails all the way to a loss or an ALMOST come from behind only to leave with a "well at least we were there" consolation.

I do think they will be much improved, dont get me wrong, but COTY? COTY!?!

Clamp said:
If the Defense has a turnaround and performs well but we still miss the playoffs and Kubiak gets the boot, is Wade just gonna be moved up into the Head Coaching spot? I really hope not bc while he is a great coordinator, i think its become pretty clear that he isnt any better of a Head Coach than Kubiak. We will just end up making excuses for him based in stats for another 3 years or so. If Kubes goes then we HAVE to get a person for outside the organization. But when he was hired everyone was saying that he was an insurance policy in case Kubes had to go.

I realize this is the complete opposite as the original point of the thread but I just wanted yalls thoughts on Wades future here.
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I said it before in another thread, I fear Wade being moved to HC would be a can of worms best left unopened (emotional ties). He would be a slight upgrade from GK but...... IF the slot is opened, why settle for a slight upgrade and more years of excuses when you have the opportunity to chase great?
 
KA4Texan said:
I said it before in another thread, I fear Wade being moved to HC would be a can of worms best left unopened (emotional ties). He would be a slight upgrade from GK but...... IF the slot is opened, why settle for a slight upgrade and more years of excuses when you have the opportunity to chase great?
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I agree. Wade has shown he is competent, be we need more. We need someone who will bring a little more toughness to the team. Mental and physical toughness. I'm tired of losing games bc we couldnt close even though we had the lead.
 
Clamp said:
If the Defense has a turnaround and performs well but we still miss the playoffs and Kubiak gets the boot, is Wade just gonna be moved up into the Head Coaching spot? I really hope not bc while he is a great coordinator, i think its become pretty clear that he isnt any better of a Head Coach than Kubiak. We will just end up making excuses for him based in stats for another 3 years or so. If Kubes goes then we HAVE to get a person for outside the organization. But when he was hired everyone was saying that he was an insurance policy in case Kubes had to go.

I realize this is the complete opposite as the original point of the thread but I just wanted yalls thoughts on Wades future here.
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If Kubes goes imo Wade is next HC.
 
thunderkyss said:
What made Denver's offense exciting to watch, was their "go for the throat" attitude. Just when the other team thought they could relax, it's the first play of the game, Denver had a big lead & was going to run the clock out..... Bam, Denver would kick them in the gnads with a big play. Either break a big run off the cut-back lane, or give them the rope-a-dope with the play action pass.

Kubiak's too damned conservative. & personally I think conservative is the wrong attitude for a young team of Alpha-Males.

& so is Wade.
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getting a big lead, doesn't that play in the hands of the opposition? forcing them to pass?


besides as fast as our offense could score, the defense was letting the opposition score faster .
 
At least with Wade the Texans will make the playoffs and then lose in the first round.
 
I want to hear Kubiak say that he has changed his philosophy of remaining close enough in game to take advantage of opponent's errors to win in 4th.
 
badboy said:
I want to hear Kubiak say that he has changed his philosophy of remaining close enough in game to take advantage of opponent's errors to win in 4th.
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Funny, because I want to hear Kubiak say that he has changed his philosphy of staying close enough in the game for opponents to take advantage of his errors.

Actually, if Kubiak no longer has to say "It's on me", I'll be satisfied.
 
Gary Kubiak being the coach of the year is the most hilarious thing I've heard all year. Going 12-4 in your 6th season as HC of a team and having your first real winning season doesn't even make you a good coach. He'd still be one of the worst coaches in the league.
 
Wolf said:
getting a big lead, doesn't that play in the hands of the opposition? forcing them to pass?


besides as fast as our offense could score, the defense was letting the opposition score faster .
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Not exactly.
 
Texecutioner said:
Gary Kubiak being the coach of the year is the most hilarious thing I've heard all year. Going 12-4 in your 6th season as HC of a team and having your first real winning season doesn't even make you a good coach. He'd still be one of the worst coaches in the league.
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Yep gotta agree. Kubiak will always be in the lower percentile of NFL head coaches. He has shown us that for the last 5 years with almost every decision he has made. Combine that with Smith and we have an 8-8 team at best. I could easily see this team going 5-12 or worse this year. This is based on them making idiotic assumptions/decisions like they do every year.
 
I would do back flips if Kubiak won Coach of the Year. That means the Texans either won the SB or went to the AFC Championship game.
:fingergun:
 
DocBar said:
I would do back flips if Kubiak won Coach of the Year. That means the Texans either won the SB or went to the AFC Championship game.
:fingergun:
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It would definitely mean good things for the Texans, but it's voted on based on the regular season (last year it was announced on January 13th), so there's no way that playoff results could impact it.
 
Are we so far gone that we think Kubiak is the 2011 Coach of the Year?

Lock out... please... for all that is grounded in reality... please end.

:vincepalm:
 
ChampionTexan said:
It would definitely mean good things for the Texans, but it's voted on based on the regular season (last year it was announced on January 13th), so there's no way that playoff results could impact it.
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OK, so we finally make the playoffs and do it as division champs. I'm still happy and doin back flips.
:hurrah::hurrah::hurrah:
 
Txn_in_ROK said:
Are we so far gone that we think Kubiak is the 2011 Coach of the Year?

Lock out... please... for all that is grounded in reality... please end.

:vincepalm:
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So if Texans go 12- 4 you don't think he would be a candidate? How could he not be? The award is about the previous season not a career.
 
badboy said:
Wade Phillips turns defense as around as he has other teams and Gary Kubiak is able to focus on the offense and do his thing. Few will disagree that Kubes is an offensive guru & the O has looked good last few years and despite losing LT Duane Brown for several games, OD coming off injury and JJ missing some games due to injury in 2010. JJ may not return but the others should have better 2011 & don't forget how good Joel Dreesen looked. I'm thinking O will be even better now that Kubes knows what he has in Foster & that Arian can catch the ball. Only ifI see is if Tater Salad is all that he can be. This big fast RB could give us a 1-2-3 punch like no other team has had in my memory.

We go 12-4 and Gary could be coach of the year. For me this remains Kubiak final shot at doing what he was hired to do. Build a perennial play off machine.
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I see someone has been drinking the battle red kool-aid early this year.
 
The only way Kubiak wins COTY is if the Texans have a truly spectacular season with at least 12 wins, and all the other coaches **** the bed.
 
Allstar said:
The only way Kubiak wins COTY is if the Texans have a truly spectacular season with at least 12 wins, and all the other coaches **** the bed.
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Yeah, you don't get coach of the year because you sucked every other year and then all of a sudden have a good year when you should have been fired in the first place. Not gonna happen.
 
Texecutioner said:
Yeah, you don't get coach of the year because you sucked every other year and then all of a sudden have a good year when you should have been fired in the first place. Not gonna happen.
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Sure you do. The COY is only on that year's performance. Previous years performance are irrelevant.

Signed,
Dick Jauron (2001)
Dom Capers (1996)
Ray Rhodes (1995)
Lindy Infante (1990)
...
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Sure you do. The COY is only on that year's performance. Previous years performance are irrelevant.

Signed,
Dick Jauron (2001)
Dom Capers (1996)
Ray Rhodes (1995)
Lindy Infante (1990)
...
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I'd have to have seen how many previous years of suckage all these guys had and see how it compared to Kubiak's tenure here to see how legit these examples are. I don't think going back 20 years in a different era of the NFL is a comparable example to use either.

He won't be coach of the year. You can bet the bank on that.
 
Texecutioner said:
I'd have to have seen how many previous years of suckage all these guys had and see how it compared to Kubiak's tenure here to see how legit these examples are. I don't think going back 20 years in a different era of the NFL is a comparable example to use either.

He won't be coach of the year. You can bet the bank on that.
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If he goes 12- 4 and Texans win first round they attend in playoffs but lose in the next why do you think he would not? Don't just say he won't or Texans will not win 12 because that would become yes he will, no he won't debate.
 
As a Texans fan, I hope you're right, badboy! Nothing would make me happier, because that means a decade of mediocre is behind us and we are actually talking about success around these parts!

As an NFL fan, though, I honestly don't see it happening this year. Kubiak is a great OC, but unfortunately, he's our HC. He still seems to be making bad game management decisions after 5 years on the job. And to be quite honest, I'm just not convinced that he's a leader of men that will get them to run through walls for him.

Reminds me of this quote:

"Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate."
~ Vince Lombardi

I can only hope that Kubiak has finally figured out how to get inside our players and motivate them accordingly. This will be key to him becoming the 2011 coach of the year.
 
badboy said:
If he goes 12- 4 and Texans win first round they attend in playoffs but lose in the next why do you think he would not? Don't just say he won't or Texans will not win 12 because that would become yes he will, no he won't debate.
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Going 12-4 doesn't all of a sudden make you HC of the year. I've got news for ya, there will be other HC's that go 14-2 and about 3 others who do 12-4 or better possibly. Kubiak becoming coach of the year would probably be the worst thing that could happen in my eyes any way, because Bob would extend him and we'd be in for another 4 years of failures and you guys that like to flip flop every season on whether or not you think he's a good coach would all of a sudden act like he's some god because he finally took this team to the playoffs and he'd be thought of as this great coach again in this city when he never earned that reputation in his first place when people were heralding him as this savior of the Texans organization.

I don't expect the Texans to do anything special this season any way, and I just hope that it's bad enough in Mcnair's eyes to get rid of him finally. If he finally had a decent enough season to make the playoffs this year and got extended again that would just further the dark hole of suckage with this organization and will set us back another decade possibly. Kubiak and Wade Phillips together as coaches is not a good combination at all in my eyes and I want it broken up sooner than later.
 
Double Barrel said:
As a Texans fan, I hope you're right, badboy! Nothing would make me happier, because that means a decade of mediocre is behind us and we are actually talking about success around these parts!

As an NFL fan, though, I honestly don't see it happening this year. Kubiak is a great OC, but unfortunately, he's our HC. He still seems to be making bad game management decisions after 5 years on the job. And to be quite honest, I'm just not convinced that he's a leader of men that will get them to run through walls for him.

Reminds me of this quote:

"Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate."
~ Vince Lombardi

I can only hope that Kubiak has finally figured out how to get inside our players and motivate them accordingly. This will be key to him becoming the 2011 coach of the year.
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Oh, I agree. I don't think I have offered my opinion here just asked what others thought and why. If Wade's defense leads to more wins, why would not the head coach get credit for the season, just like other teams?

I really was down on Gary last season and he needs to have a huge year to keep him as HC imo.
 
SteveSlaton20 said:
Don't y'all already know by now that Kubiak sucks?
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I keep wondering that myself. He isn't even supposed to be coaching here anymore any way. The only reason why he is because we have the nicest owner in the league that feels firing someone is to tramatic for him and being being average is good enough as long as you're selling tickets. That's where Mcnair sets the bar.
 
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