Death to Google Ads! Texans Talk Tip Jar! 🍺😎👍
Thanks for your support!

Cushing: Message to Cromartie........

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
.........come rejoin your old coach...........and spread your seed in Houston............


@briancushing56
Brian Cushing
I've flown cross country trying to convince my boy @A_Cromartie31 to become a Texan. What you think Houston?
10 May via Twitter for iPhone
 

b0ng

Bad Hombre
Talented player, not sure if he would meet the character requirements.
If you're talking about him having a ton of kids and not being able to remember their names, I don't think that's as big of a deal as somebody who winds up on the police blotter all the time. I mean we did take Cushing even though there were a ton of stories about him and steroids.
 

HJam72

Hall of Fame
If you're talking about him having a ton of kids and not being able to remember their names, I don't think that's as big of a deal as somebody who winds up on the police blotter all the time. I mean we did take Cushing even though there were a ton of stories about him and steroids.
Gee, I wonder where they got that idea. :gun:
 

Nawzer

Alienz
So are the Texan unofficially pursuing Cromartie? If the team isn't interested why would a player recruit another player without consent? I think the Texans are interested but due to the work stoppage, players are doing some behind the scene recruiting.
 

thunderkyss

Just win baby!!!
Staff member
Contributor's Club
So are the Texan unofficially pursuing Cromartie? If the team isn't interested why would a player recruit another player without consent? I think the Texans are interested but due to the work stoppage, players are doing some behind the scene recruiting.
I wouldn't read too much into it.

Teams can not have any contact with any players. Cushing is doing this on his own.

I doubt this team would openly pursue Cromartie.
 

Nawzer

Alienz
I wouldn't read too much into it.

Teams can not have any contact with any players. Cushing is doing this on his own.

I doubt this team would openly pursue Cromartie.

Maybe I am reading too much into it, but there is a chance that during the time period when the lockout was "over", Texans may have instructed their players to reach out to guys they were interested in.
 

Big Lou

Hall of Fame
The Texans obviousley prefer High Character Guys, but there were talks with Benson when he was just coming off his issues.

Also the Wild Card is Wade. Wade isn't afraid to go after guys with issues. The cowboys had Adam "Make it Rain" Jones, and Tank "NRA Member" Johnson during Wade's time there if I recall.

How much control was Wade promised with the Defense???????
 

Lucky

Ride, Captain, Ride!
Staff member
I think the real question is, what does Wade think of Cromartie? He didn't see the field much his rookie season (though he was only a year removed from ACL surgery). Cromartie's breakout season (10 ints) was 2007, when Wade was in Dallas.

Apparently, Cromartie has been working out at DeFrancos Gym with Cushing. So I don't think this has anything to do with the Texans directing Brian to sell athletes on coming to Houston. And other than liking women (lots of women) and not liking condoms, I'm not sure what character problems Cromartie has. He's married now, and from his twitter page, really into religion.

The question is, does Wade like Cromartie or does Wade like Cromartie more than other CBs available. As a Texan fan, I've seen the damage he can inflict to an offense (2 ints and a TD in '07). Cromartie also has 4 career INTs vs Peyton Manning, and has never lost to Manning in the playoffs. Outside of Asomugha, I don't think there is a better FA CB available.
 

Norg

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Maybe our char guy policy will change

It will stay the same for our offensive but we will have bad boys for our defensive if wade has the power to pick his own guys
 

Texecutioner

Hall of Fame
If you're talking about him having a ton of kids and not being able to remember their names, I don't think that's as big of a deal as somebody who winds up on the police blotter all the time. I mean we did take Cushing even though there were a ton of stories about him and steroids.
Man, with all of the strip clubs we have Cromartie would probably have like 3 kids on the way by mid season after he stepped foot into Treasures and Onyx. :spit:

As far as Cromartie helping the secondary, he would some but he's not that great of a corner really. He's a great athlete with great speed but his reputation mainly stems from that 2007 season, because he had a lot of picks. That Jets defense and great pass rush made things a lot easier for him last season. I don't think he'd have that crutch here. He'd be an upgrade though, so I'd welcome the move as long as we weren't paying him much. He isn't worth a big contract.
 

vupac1

Waterboy
Also the Wild Card is Wade. Wade isn't afraid to go after guys with issues. The cowboys had Adam "Make it Rain" Jones, and Tank "NRA Member" Johnson during Wade's time there if I recall.

How much control was Wade promised with the Defense???????
You got it all wrong, JERRY JONES is the one who was never afraid to go after those guys, and will routinely do so whether his coaches/coordinators have an issue with their character or not
 

dinkatoid

Waterboy
I'm not a Cromartie fan although he;d be an upgrade over what we have now.
That's not saying much. I really don't like the guy - he is decent in coverage, mainly because it seems like he gets his hands on a lot of deflections. My big issue is the fact that he is a downright liability in run coverage. I think he is allergic to the ball carrier - he has no problem stopping them from catching it, but once that happens, he wants no part of the play.

I remember SD fans wanting to get rid of him so bad because of a few plays where he was between the ball carrier and the goal line, and he just kinda jogged around until they got passed him - made no effort to stop them.
 

dinkatoid

Waterboy
You got it all wrong, JERRY JONES is the one who was never afraid to go after those guys, and will routinely do so whether his coaches/coordinators have an issue with their character or not
I think you are 100% correct on this, wade's draft picks this year all had the same thing in common - they were hard working try hard types. This seems to be a stark difference from the guys he got as a FA in Dallas, which to me screams of Jerry Jones.
 

Brandon420tx

Flounder
My big issue is the fact that he is a downright liability in run coverage.
Our previous DC's and positional coaches have wanted our CB's to be able to help vs. the run. It was either Wade, Herring, or our new DB coach that said they want the front 7 to focus on the run and let our DB's play the pass, in that case cromartie's RB tackling concerns become a non-issue. Of course, I'd have to ask 76Texan if Cromartie comes from a pattern-matching school of thought
 

Texan JBZ

Da Sip's Finest
Let's see..Cromartie is better than any DB we currently have. So, yes. Bring him in. I'd rather have him than Ike Taylor. Nnamdi would be nice, but it's going to take a fortune to get him. Jonathan Joseph is a wet dream, because Cincy isn't letting him go anywhere. Cromartie will be the best value imo.
 

PapaL

Loose Screw
I neither have a vagina nor a problem with bringing him in. If I had one a vagina, I might have a problem with bringing him in. Hahaha
 

PHAROAH

Rookie
Look Cromartie isn't a bad guy just because he has kids that's is his deal, look the guy can play and we need a go to veteran cb that is a top notch player.
 

thunderkyss

Just win baby!!!
Staff member
Contributor's Club
Look Cromartie isn't a bad guy just because he has kids that's is his deal, look the guy can play and we need a go to veteran cb that is a top notch player.
I know the Jets defense was better than ours. But I don't think Cromartie was a big part of that.

Seems like we are on the "get a CB, any CB" into Houston campaign right now.

If we were looking for a robin to our batman, if we were looking for a #2 CB, I'd be all for Cromartie. But to bring him in as our #1, our Leader, our standard.... shoulda kept Dunta.

I'll pass on Cromartie. Asomugha, Joseph, Taylor.... if we don't get one of those three (and there may be another guy I'm missing) I'd just as soon go with what we got. It might not be pretty & we'll definitely have weaknesses on the field, but at least we'll be in a position to throw some money at an elite corner if one should be made available in the future.
 

chicagotexan2

Easterby = Little Finger/Cal = Fredo Corleone
Cushing is your typical welfare mama. He's already looking at Cromartie as a baby daddy when Cushing just came back from maternity leave.
 

El Tejano

Hall of Fame
Cromartie's a moron....but I'd take him to play for the Texans in a heartbeat.
Yep. There are plenty of players of morons on other teams but they still come in and kick our butts on Sunday. Bout time we've added some of those morons to our team.
 

HoustonFrog

Dallas Frog
I think you are 100% correct on this, wade's draft picks this year all had the same thing in common - they were hard working try hard types. This seems to be a stark difference from the guys he got as a FA in Dallas, which to me screams of Jerry Jones.
Really? Have you seen who Dallas got in FA the last 5 years or so...basically no one..and the guys they did were all Wade type guys...Olgansky, Brooking, etc. They had one year where they tried PacMan and Tank and they were gone after 1 year. They haven't been a player in FA for the most part and when they got guys they were broing for the most part.

As far as Cromartie, LZ was talking about 3 months back and he said he thought Cromartie would fit this system better than anyone out there. Take that for what its worth. The guy is alot better than Ike Taylor and some other names thrown out there.
 

HOU-TEX

Ah, Football!
Yep. There are plenty of players of morons on other teams but they still come in and kick our butts on Sunday. Bout time we've added some of those morons to our team.
Ha, yep, I agree with how much emphasis we put on the character of our players when it comes to criminal activety. The dude's inability to keep his pecker in his pants shouldn't fall into that catagory.
 

chicagotexan2

Easterby = Little Finger/Cal = Fredo Corleone




Plus he won't pass Uncle Bob's character test.


Wrap it before you tap it, Cro.
If we ever get taken out dinosour style by a meteor Cromartie, Tavis Henry, Shawn Kemp and Calvin Murphy could single handedly repopulate the world.
 
Anybody have anything to say about his ability on the field or we just got a bunch of jokes?

We certainly do have a bunch of jokes on the field......


I lost where I'm goin with this. I'd take a CB with cover skills over any of our CBs whose best asset is run support.
 

Hervoyel

BUENO!
He reminds me of phillip buchanon
Except for the fact that Buchanon did not once in his entire career have the same amount of success as Cromartie.

I don't particularly want him but that's because I'm hung up on Aso and want to see the Texans just once before I die actually go out and get the best friggin player at his position on earth when they have a chance to do so. I'm in the "Go overpay Aso and you won't hear another word out of me no matter how stupid your next move is (and I'm sure it's gonna be a real short-bus move knowing you guys) crowd.

But even with my admittedly skewed perspective in all of this I have to say that Cromartie would be an upgrade over every Houston Texan to take the field at CB since Glenn and Coleman were starting here.
 

thunderkyss

Just win baby!!!
Staff member
Contributor's Club
Here's an article about Cromartie before the season.

Under previous administrations, the Jets wouldn't have made a trade like this. By that, I mean acquiring a talented, but enigmatic player with questions about his attitude and serious questions about his off-the-field lifestyle. But the Jets felt comfortable making this trade for CB Antonio Cromartie because of the big man.

Rex Ryan.

The Jets believe Ryan can turn an underachiever into an overachiever, a punk into a Pro Bowl player. The front office thinks Ryan's cocky and infectious personality is contagious and can transform wayward players -- especially the talented ones -- into productive members of the team.

In 2007, Cromartie looked like the next Deion Sanders, but his play dropped off and he started complaining, driving his teammates and coaches crazy with his attitude. He also started tackling like a prom queen. Have you seen the You Tube clip of him trying to tackle (and I'm using the word loosely) Shonn Greene on his long TD in the playoffs? He had him at the line, but ran away as if Greene were radioactive. (Can't see Cromartie and Kerry Rhodes in the same secondary.)

Scout.com has a better opinion of Cromartie than I do....
 

Hervoyel

BUENO!
Both are (were) overrated.

I'm not paying a ton for Cromartie, at least definitely not a 2nd and 3rd round pick.

:toropalm:
Oh no, never overpay for Cromartie. I agree with that. Overpay for Aso if you got to overpay for somebody but in a world where all we could get was Cromartie then ok, I can't complain that the Texans took a step back there. It might not be the step forward I think they needed but it wouldn't be a step back.
 

gary

Hall of Fame
Don't overpay him but he is certainly better than just handing over the job to Kareem or another rookie Harris who may turn out good but just not right now.
 
Top