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Most embarassing play of the day

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rocka21

Practice Squad
down by 2 tds.

you punt on 4th and inches in the fourth quarter.

then punt again.



Please, someone, anyone give me a GOOD answer!

How many coaches in the NFL or High school even would have punt right there? What are you playing the game for if not to win.

I know there are some people that know football out there..........
Am I wrong?
 
How many coaches in the NFL or High school even would have punt right there?
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virtually all of them?

I'm no fan of the coaching but weren't we fairly deep in our own end? Punting seemed like a no-brainer IMHO. There was too much time left to get desperate.
 
toronado said:
virtually all of them?

I'm no fan of the coaching but weren't we fairly deep in our own end? Punting seemed like a no-brainer IMHO. There was too much time left to get desperate.
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Hell no they wouldnt. Its 4th and 3 with 5:00 left and you're down by 15. Stop beign so damn scared.
 
toronado said:
are you sure there was only 5 minutes left? I thought it was closer to 10..
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It was 5 minutes and some change. The TV comentator even said he couldn't believe we were punting the game errr ball away.

bobby 119C :homer:
 
toronado said:
...I'm no fan of the coaching but weren't we fairly deep in our own end? Punting seemed like a no-brainer IMHO. There was too much time left to get desperate.
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ok, lets put it like this... chances you can make the first down = 25%

chances you can punt and win the game with an exahausted defense, down by 15 points, and 5 minutes left in the game = 0%

get it now?
 
ok, ok.. I thought there was more time left than that. jeez..

5 minutes left down by 15 we should have went although I think our chances of making it were closer to 2.5% than 25% LOL.
 
toronado said:
ok, ok.. I thought there was more time left than that. jeez..

5 minutes left down by 15 we should have went although I think our chances of making it were closer to 2.5% than 25% LOL.
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lol, I might have gotten carried away with the 25%
 
Post it here:

I vote for the play when Carr hit Gaffney in the right elbow. I think Gaffney was just assuming Carr would be sacked and didn't bother even checking the play.
 
There were so many embarassing plays, but I would have to agree. This game put the franchise back five years (and we are only 4 years old!!!)
 
He certainly didn't look like he was expecting the ball, but then again he hasn't been available that much for the preseason practices. We keep Hollings instead of another WR. None of our receivers really know how to get open.......................... May be we need to hire Rice to instruct our WR's. Might be a great move. OOPS we might have to get rid of a coach. On second thought, I guess we couldn't do that because it would upset the apple cart.....................
 
AlexVanderpool said:
Punting the ball on 4th and 1, down by 15 points, with 6 minutes left in the game.
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We were on our own 33. I don't blame them for punting. We still had a shot at the win if we hold them and score and get the onside. If we don't convert, the game is over right there. They are already in field position.
 
delay of game at the 2 drove me nuts. luckily we scored still but it was a stupid penalty
 
AlexVanderpool said:
Punting the ball on 4th and 1, down by 15 points, with 6 minutes left in the game.
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i think it was more like 4th and 2cm. no confidence in the offense, and when the defense gets abused we act like we have confidence in them!

embarassing play of the day: simmons getting his ankles broken. next time he better not try to shake him. STICK HIM!
 
Vinny said:
We were on our own 33. I don't blame them for punting. We still had a shot at the win if we hold them and score and get the onside. If we don't convert, the game is over right there. They are already in field position.
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Yeah I see your point but honestly, if you can't get a yard when it's do or die then you should just head for the locker room right then and there. After what I'd seen prior to that the Texans needed to make a statement on that down. They needed to say "This stops right here" and get that first down. Instead they said "Ok, we're done." and kicked it away.
 
Hervoyel said:
Yeah I see your point but honestly, if you can't get a yard when it's do or die then you should just head for the locker room right then and there. After what I'd seen prior to that the Texans needed to make a statement on that down. They needed to say "This stops right here" and get that first down. Instead they said "Ok, we're done." and kicked it away.
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We got the ball back and Carr threw another pick. Score and we have a shot...but we threw a pick. A FG at that point puts the Bills up 3 scores. No shot at all.
 
Ibar_Harry said:
How about Payne who has the ball in front of him being off-side 3 or 4 times.
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This is my vote. I mean YOUR LOOKING AT THE FREAKING BALL! Its right in front of your face.
 
most embarrassing play of the day was our ***** of a QB deciding he was going to throw the ball to AJ even though he was double covered from the snap and putting so much arch on the ball that the double coverage didn't have to intercept it because the safety, which made triple coverage, had enough time to run in and make the interception.

That had to be the best example of Carr's lack of mental ability to play as a starting QB.

Embarrassing isn't even harsh enough of a term for that dumb play.
 
We were on our own 33. I don't blame them for punting. We still had a shot at the win if we hold them and score and get the onside.
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Yeah, because the parlay of scoring, recovering the onside (15% chance?) and scoring again is better than converting a 4th and 3 and going from there.... The call sucked.
 
Vinny said:
We got the ball back and Carr threw another pick. Score and we have a shot...but we threw a pick. A FG at that point puts the Bills up 3 scores. No shot at all.
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Look at the play and ask if the receiver went to the ball or waited for it to come to him. Our receivers do not know how to play football period. Its how they are coached. They were constantly commenting on Losman's receivers coming back to the ball. The Texan's receivers don't do that. You are giving the defenders an unfair advantage if you don't go back to the ball. Oh, I forgot once again we have to give the other defense a chance because we are so superior defensively.
 
Does this mean that David Carr's Rookie Card is worthless??? Prediction:
Pittsburgh 38 Texans 10 That's if they spot us 7 points What is Capers always writing on the sidelines??? Grocery List??? This weeks excuse??? ENQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW
 
daiges7 said:
Yeah, because the parlay of scoring, recovering the onside (15% chance?) and scoring again is better than converting a 4th and 3 and going from there.... The call sucked.
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not converting the 4th when your opponent is in field position is the dumb call. The punt gave us a chance to win. A stop and the game is over at the 5 min mark.
 
COOL V said:
Does this mean that David Carr's Rookie Card is worthless??? Prediction:
Pittsburgh 38 Texans 10 That's if they spot us 7 points What is Capers always writing on the sidelines??? Grocery List??? This weeks excuse??? ENQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW
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IF WE HAD ONLY EXECUTED and the other team hadn't showed up we might have won the ball game.................
 
COOL V said:
What is Capers always writing on the sidelines??? Grocery List??? This weeks excuse??? ENQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW
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Milk
Eggs
Left Tackle
Bread
O Cordinator
Ham
Facial Expressions ( I swear he looks lost out there)
cheese
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A stop and the game is over at the 5 min mark.
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uh, don't look now, but the Game WAS over at the 5 min. mark

Having said that, I agree with you Vinny, and hindsight is 20/20. The smart thing to do was punt the ball at that point.
 
Vinny said:
not converting the 4th when your opponent is in field position is the dumb call. The punt gave us a chance to win. A stop and the game is over at the 5 min mark.
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Anyone with half an idea can see your point Vinny, I know I can but then I look at it this way as well (I'm a Libra so I have to balance it out, what can I say?)... If we can't convert a 4th and 1cm for instance in a season opener (no matter where we are on the field), then what do we do if it's week 17 and we end up same position with a playoff spot on the line??? Doesn't give us much hope from where I sit... again there is pro's and con's to both arguments...JMO is all
 
You forgot the D Coordinator and see if the Carolina Job is still available. Take him back Carolina please.
 
LCROD said:
Milk
Eggs
Left Tackle
Bread
O Cordinator
Ham
Facial Expressions ( I swear he looks lost out there)
cheese
notebook
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The facial expression is almost scary because it looks like he really is totaly at a loss. It's amazing how many people have noticed this and yet I have been talking about how frozen and indecisive he is. I honestly believe its an inherant trait and has nothing to do with him as a person. People who are prolific note takers and who are so driven by minute detail are often incapable of making decisions on the fly. Capers is simply not a leader and never will be. He is a good man, but he shouldn't be leading this ball club.
 
J-Storm said:
Anyone with half an idea can see your point Vinny, I know I can but then I look at it this way as well (I'm a Libra so I have to balance it out, what can I say?)... If we can't convert a 4th and 1cm for instance in a season opener (no matter where we are on the field), then what do we do if it's week 17 and we end up same position with a playoff spot on the line??? Doesn't give us much hope from where I sit... again there is pro's and con's to both arguments...JMO is all
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I've watched football for parts of 4 decades and I will safely say that going for a 4th down while in your opponents field position isn't too common. There was time to win the game by playing good defense and scoring when you get the ball back, but we got th ball back and threw a pick. Get a TD there (instead of a pick) and we have a shot to win still. If we don't pick up the 4th we are 3 scores down instead of 2 and the game is over with 6 mins left. If we had 3 mins on the clock at that point I understand, but not with 5:55 left in the game.
 
Sorry J-Storm, but in week 17 there won't be a playoff spot on the line unless San Francisco kicks it up a notch and the rest of the NFC Teams all lose. I don't see them having that going for them right now, it sure won't be our spot on the line.
 
You make a great point really and I see it easily. All I'm sayin' is I think (and this applies to other teams not just ours) the playcalling is way too conservative. The idea is possession and using that possession to score. You can't do that by punting on every 4th and ever-so-close... And ok we got the ball back and still threw a pick, but if you can't trust your team with time on the clock, how do you trust them with the clock moving against you...doesn't make sense to me...
 
COOL V said:
Sorry J-Storm, but in week 17 there won't be a playoff spot on the line unless San Francisco kicks it up a notch and the rest of the NFC Teams all lose. I don't see them having that going for them right now, it sure won't be our spot on the line.
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Ha ha ha, good point, I was just using a hypothetical situation was all. I'm a realist unlike a few here and I'll be happy if we get away with 1 more win than last yr. I'm not counting on playoffs 'til next yr at earliest...
 
Vinny said:
We were on our own 33. I don't blame them for punting. We still had a shot at the win if we hold them and score and get the onside. If we don't convert, the game is over right there. They are already in field position.
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true, we were on our own 33, by punting the coaching staff destroyed the already meak confidence of the offense. did you see our next series, or lack there of?
 
Ibar_Harry said:
The facial expression is almost scary because it looks like he really is totaly at a loss. It's amazing how many people have noticed this and yet I have been talking about how frozen and indecisive he is. I honestly believe its an inherant trait and has nothing to do with him as a person. People who are prolific note takers and who are so driven by minute detail are often incapable of making decisions on the fly. Capers is simply not a leader and never will be. He is a good man, but he shouldn't be leading this ball club.
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It would almost have to be inheretied. Even in Carolina he never seemed like a coach that players rallied around. They were good because of all the veterns on that team that rallied the team. Here its becoming apperant that he is the problem as the HC. I really wouldnt mind seeing him as a DC. I just think he his overwhelmed as the HC.
 
I'm sorry I had to throw that in there. I hope for the best for my Texans and it kills me when we have so much potential, but keep coming up short. I thought Bob Mcnair was a business man, A Winner. Who knows, maybe he's tending to his horses. I hate having my football season end in December Year after Year.
 
AlexVanderpool said:
true, we were on our own 33, by punting the coaching staff destroyed the already meak confidence of the offense. did you see our next series, or lack there of?
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You don't build confidence by taking risks that totally guarantee you losing the game in one play if it doesn't work out. If that play fails the game is over with 6 mins left. Punting keeps the game alive for the team.
 
Vinny said:
You don't build confidence by taking risks that totally guarantee you losing the game in one play if it doesn't work out. If that play fails the game is over with 6 mins left. Punting keeps the game alive for the team.
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conventionally, you never go for it on 4 down in your own territory, but in a game where you are down 2 touchdowns with 6 minutes to go and your offense needs momentum more than anything not to mention that the opposing team has one of the best RBs and OLs in the league to effectively eat up clock, YOU GO FOR IT!!!
 
Vinny said:
We were on our own 33. I don't blame them for punting. We still had a shot at the win if we hold them and score and get the onside. If we don't convert, the game is over right there. They are already in field position.
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I still dont agree with it Vinny. Our defense had been on the field way too much and were obviously tired. On top of that, we had been handing McGahee yards hand over fist.

Just seemed like a bad move.. of course.. our offense was sucking wind as well, so I dont blame Capers for not trusting them to get the 1st either.
 
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