VY placed on IR ... However Bud insists that he isn't going anywhere ...

Hookem Horns · Nov 22, 2010

"They are going to have to work together. I haven't given up on Vince, and I am sure Fisher hasn't either," Adams told Jim Wyatt of the Nashville Tennesseean from his office in Houston. "Vince was upset and said some things he regretted after doing it, but you have to get to the bottom of it, straighten it out and move on.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Could-Bud-Adams-insistence-lead-to-Jeff-Fisher-?urn=nfl-288213

OK, should a thumb injury really put him on the IR or was this a way to keep him off the field by Fisher?

If Bud insists on keeping VY I fully expect Fisher to walk.

disaacks3 · Nov 22, 2010

Hookem Horns said:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Could-Bud-Adams-insistence-lead-to-Jeff-Fisher-?urn=nfl-288213

OK, should a thumb injury really put him on the IR or was this a way to keep him off the field by Fisher?

If Bud insists on keeping VY I fully expect Fisher to walk.

Bogus IR...he was ready to come back into the game.

I agree Fisher SHOULD walk if Bud is going to dictate who takes the field on Sundays.

Showtime100 · Nov 22, 2010

"Team Fisher" is beginning to have a certain ring to it. It'd be nice to have a coach who has it in for the Teets.

TEXANRED · Nov 22, 2010

disaacks3 said:
Bogus IR...he was ready to come back into the game.

I agree Fisher SHOULD walk if Bud is going to dictate who takes the field on Sundays.

Yeah, walk on over to the soon to be vacant Texans HC job.

Double Barrel · Nov 22, 2010

Showtime100 said:
"Team Fisher" is beginning to have a certain ring to it. It'd be nice to have a coach who has it in for the Teets.

Sorry, bud, Kubiak ain't going anywhere and Fisher isn't niiiiiiice enough for this team.

Wolf · Nov 22, 2010

Showtime100 said:
"Team Fisher" is beginning to have a certain ring to it. It'd be nice to have a coach who has it in for the Teets.

I like Jeff Fisher.. strong defense and run the ball, IF he were to come in here, I wonder how long it would take him to revamp the offense to his liking ( or do they do that zone base blocking scheme?) or would he keep the offensive coaches in tact

Showtime100 · Nov 22, 2010

Double Barrel said:
Sorry, bud, Kubiak ain't going anywhere and Fisher isn't niiiiiiice enough for this team.

Lol, I think you're right, Lucy.

Signed,
Charlie Brown

Wolf · Nov 22, 2010

Double Barrel said:
Sorry, bud, Kubiak ain't going anywhere and Fisher isn't niiiiiiice enough for this team.

yep true popped my bubble :bubbles:

disaacks3 · Nov 22, 2010

Double Barrel said:
Sorry, bud, Kubiak ain't going anywhere and Fisher isn't niiiiiiice enough for this team.

I'm no longer so sure about that. If this team finishes 7-9 or worse, I don't think Kubes will be here next year (or 2012, depending on the lockout).

Double Barrel · Nov 22, 2010

Showtime100 said:
Lol, I think you're right, Lucy.

Signed,
Charlie Brown

For this thread and this thread only! :winky:

I'm firmly in the Charlie Brown fanbase who keeps trying to kick that damn ball every year!

disaacks3 said:
I'm no longer so sure about that. If this team finishes 7-9 or worse, I don't think Kubes will be here next year (or 2012, depending on the lockout).

I'd really like to be as OPTIMISTIC as you (hehe), but honestly, I think they scapegoat Bush and sell it with a marketing blitz.

Unresolved collective bargaining agreement has McNair scared, plus that little extension Kubiak got means it's a profit loss to fire him early.

McNair probably sees the offense still being good (gold star for Kubiak) and it's all Frank's fault that the defense sucks (because Kubiak is an offensive mind).

I can see the team finishing 8-8, just good enough for McNair to justify keeping Kubiak with a new DC.

JB · Nov 22, 2010

Double Barrel said:
For this thread and this thread only!

I'm firmly in the Charlie Brown fanbase who keeps trying to kick that damn ball every year!

I'd really like to be as OPTIMISTIC as you (hehe), but honestly, I think they scapegoat Bush and sell it with a marketing blitz.

Unresolved collective bargaining agreement has McNair scared, plus that little extension Kubiak got means it's a profit loss to fire him early.

McNair probably sees the offense still being good (gold star for Kubiak) and it's all Frank's fault that the defense sucks (because Kubiak is an offensive mind).

I can see the team finishing 8-8, just good enough for McNair to justify keeping Kubiak with a new DC.

I hate to diagree with you, but I don't see us winning 4 more. We finish at 5-11 or 6-10 at best. :choke:

And I thought Matt Williamson was daft when he predicted the Texans to be at best a 6 win team...

FML! Like Thorn, I want to see a Houston football team win the SB before I die, though I know that is a slim hope.

Wolf · Nov 22, 2010

The Tennessean reported Monday that owner Bud Adams had talked to Fisher and Young and told them to get this thing settled and work together. Adams said Young told him he wanted to return to the game, and the 87-year-old owner isnt going to release the No. 3 overall pick in the 2006 draft.

Oh, God, yeah. He is under contract. I wouldnt want to let him go. We are going to pay him a lot of money, Adams told the paper. Young is due to receive $8.5 million in 2011.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-titans-young

make it rain Bud, make it rain

:lol:

Texan_Bill · Nov 22, 2010

Wolf said:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-titans-young

The Tennessean reported Monday that owner Bud Adams had talked to Fisher and Young and told them to “get this thing settled” and work together. Adams said Young told him he wanted to return to the game, and the 87-year-old owner isn’t going to release the No. 3 overall pick in the 2006 draft.

“Oh, God, yeah. He is under contract. I wouldn’t want to let him go. We are going to pay him a lot of money,” Adams told the paper. Young is due to receive $8.5 million in 2011.

Click to expand...

make it rain Bud, make it rain

Awesomeness!!!!

Texan_Bill · Nov 22, 2010

It is a little disheartening that Blazing Arrow wasn't around to witness the chicanery and tomfoolery of Vincent, "Radio" Young.

RIP Kian!! errrr Flaming Sparrow.

JB · Nov 22, 2010

Wolf said:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-titans-young

make it rain Bud, make it rain

Texan_Bill said:
Awesomeness!!!!

We need a toad palm for these classic fumbuck moments...

texanhead08 · Nov 22, 2010

Way to divide the team Bud. I do not miss that moron running this cities team one bit.

Wolf · Nov 22, 2010

so bud basically said to fisher that he is number 1 in his book when it comes to the team)
(too bad vince didn't have number 11 as a jersey number and would have made the picture even better)

Dutchrudder · Nov 22, 2010

Wow, what an dumbass. You don't EVER bench a hall of famer. Even Kubiak isn't that stupid, he would NEVER bench Vince...

JB · Nov 22, 2010

Wolf said:
so bud basically said to fisher that is is number 1 in his book when it comes to the team)
(too bad vince didn't have number 11 as a jersey number and would have made the picture even better)

It's ok. We all know that Buck Fud can't count...

NitroGSXR · Nov 22, 2010

Double Barrel said:
Sorry, bud, Kubiak ain't going anywhere and Fisher isn't niiiiiiice enough for this team.

Right. I fully expect Brad Childress to sign on...

Kill me please.

Norg · Nov 22, 2010

i wish our owner had this much of a desire to WIN

Hookem Horns · Nov 22, 2010

I was reading about the injury to VY. He hit his thumb on the helmet of a defender. IIRC Warren Moon suffered the same injury however was only out 3 weeks or so and obviously not put on IR.

Texan_Bill · Nov 22, 2010

I love my Texans fans buddies, irrespective of the story... You people are awesome!!

houstonspartan · Nov 23, 2010

Dutchrudder said:
Wow, what an dumbass. You don't EVER bench a hall of famer. Even Kubiak isn't that stupid, he would NEVER bench Vince...

WTF?

Hall of Famer??

A little early, isn't it?

And, Kubiak wouldn't have drafted Vince in the first place. Our offense is too intricate and complicated, and Vince would never have the capacity to figure it out and lead the team.

GuerillaBlack · Nov 23, 2010

houstonspartan said:
WTF?

Hall of Famer??

A little early, isn't it?

And, Kubiak wouldn't have drafted Vince in the first place. Our offense is too intricate and complicated, and Vince would never have the capacity to figure it out and lead the team.

Your sarcasm meter needs to be repaired.

steelbtexan · Nov 23, 2010

texanhead08 said:
Way to divide the team Bud. I do not miss that moron running this cities team one bit.

How do you like the moron that's currently running this cities team?

steelbtexan · Nov 23, 2010

Norg said:
i wish our owner had this much of a desire to WIN

Me too

Although the world would've been a better place had Bud been aborted.

And for the record I'm against abortion.

steelbtexan · Nov 23, 2010

Double Barrel said:
For this thread and this thread only!

I'm firmly in the Charlie Brown fanbase who keeps trying to kick that damn ball every year!

I'd really like to be as OPTIMISTIC as you (hehe), but honestly, I think they scapegoat Bush and sell it with a marketing blitz.

Unresolved collective bargaining agreement has McNair scared, plus that little extension Kubiak got means it's a profit loss to fire him early.

McNair probably sees the offense still being good (gold star for Kubiak) and it's all Frank's fault that the defense sucks (because Kubiak is an offensive mind).

I can see the team finishing 8-8, just good enough for McNair to justify keeping Kubiak with a new DC.

This is what most likely will happen.

Although I think it would be the worst thing for this franchise in the long/short term.

This organization needs change in the worst way from top to bottom. IMHO

steelbtexan · Nov 23, 2010

Showtime100 said:
"Team Fisher" is beginning to have a certain ring to it. It'd be nice to have a coach who has it in for the Teets.

I'm not a big Fisher fan.

But I could get on board with hiring Fisher if he brought Munchak and Washburn with him.

Matthews amd Munchak toughens up the OL

I would pay to be in training camp and watch OkOye cry as Washburn toughens him up. Can you imagine Washburn reaching MW the tricks of the trade.

He** Washburn has Babin playing at a near all pro level.

Somebody neg rep me and get me off the 666 crap. LOL

Lauren · Nov 23, 2010

There are some hilarious responses on Shaggy Bevo in a thread titled "Fisher ***** Vince yet again...". Aside from nearly every single post blaming Fisher and anointing Vince as their glorious crowned one, here are some of my favorites:

Oh noes! A VY homer will be skipping the game because of this. Damn.

Well, there will be two empty club seats at Reliant next weekend.

Race card.

You got to be shitting me. Brett Favre emails pics of his junk to chicks in the front office, bitches about his coach in every national interview and press conference, and it isn't even a ****ing question who, between Favre and Childress, will get the axe. But VY is the one with the attitude problem? **** you racist assholes.

VY homer wastes $20 on hat.

**** Fisher. My titans hat is going in the trash.

I hope VY homer from quote #1 has his receipt.

I just bought bunch of new Titans gear to wear next weekend. What a fool. I wonder if in can trade it for some Browns gear?

ORLY? We hadn't noticed.

i thought it was pretty clear that most of us only care about the titans because of vince.

Could Vince be Jesus?

In Vince I trust, and I always will because he is the truth.

We gained a fan this week. Hooray.

Well ****. Go Texans (this week at least).

I do, too.

No ****. I hope they win 59-0.

Here we go.

definitely going for the texans this week and hoping the titans lose out.

gwallaia · Nov 23, 2010

Funny stuff Lauren.

I went over there and found this gem.

hopefully fisher gets in a car wreck and dies on his way home tonight.

El Tejano · Nov 23, 2010

Lauren said:
There are some hilarious responses on Shaggy Bevo in a thread titled "Fisher ***** Vince yet again...". Aside from nearly every single post blaming Fisher and anointing Vince as their glorious crowned one, here are some of my favorites:

Oh noes! A VY homer will be skipping the game because of this. Damn.

Race card.

VY homer wastes $20 on hat.

I hope VY homer from quote #1 has his receipt.

ORLY? We hadn't noticed.

Could Vince be Jesus?

We gained a fan this week. Hooray.

I do, too.

Here we go.

All these quotes are hilarious however, there's something I see here. Perhaps a hindsight is 20/20 vision moment here. See, these are the kind of fans we would've inherited if we selected VY. Sure things would be great when Vince was scoring TDs but at the first sign of Vince not doing anything our fan base would look crazy stupid because we'd have these kind of guys on our message boards and not going to games.

drewmar74 · Nov 23, 2010

gwallaia said:
Funny stuff Lauren.

I went over there and found this gem.

Sumbitch.

That's just wrong.

Lauren · Nov 23, 2010

El Tejano said:
All these quotes are hilarious however, there's something I see here. Perhaps a hindsight is 20/20 vision moment here. See, these are the kind of fans we would've inherited if we selected VY. Sure things would be great when Vince was scoring TDs but at the first sign of Vince not doing anything our fan base would look crazy stupid because we'd have these kind of guys on our message boards and not going to games.

We certainly dodged a bullet in more ways than one.

Here's another that had me lauging:

VY as a Cowboy? He would undoubtedly get the love from the fans that he sorely lacked in Ten. Starting over with a new coach as well. Even have a chance to win in a QB battle with Romo.

Then there was one where one dude was telling another to go to his KKK meeting or something and the guy responded "KKK meeting canceled this week due to Thanksgiving, btw." Had me rolling, but I lost it in all 18 pages of the thread.

Hookem Horns · Nov 23, 2010

Wow Lauren. I stopped visiting Shaggy Bevo not long after I joined because a few more weeks of that would have made an Aggie out of me. Hornfans has it's morons too however there is a decent balance over there. Plenty of fans over there see VY as he is.

houstonspartan · Nov 23, 2010

GuerillaBlack said:
Your sarcasm meter needs to be repaired.

lol. You are correct. My bad. It was late when I read that and posted.

Hookem Horns · Nov 23, 2010

Darn you Lauren ... I couldn't resist ... more quotes from Shaggy Bevo

This.

As a Titans fan, I am sick of this s**t. I am sick of Randy Moss already and the media making it sound like we have to throw him the ********g ball. I am sick of Fisher not doing what is best for our team and trying stupid s**t. I am sick of a *******y defense. I am sick of everyone thinking Fisher has won s**t. The ********************r is great for ********g .500 football. I am sick of our *******y fans, Titans fans are the dumbest ******s in the world. Booing because we were not running Washington out of the building, they are an NFL team, they have a great coach who can make adjustments.

F this day and f this entire football season, college and pro.

Double Barrel · Nov 23, 2010

Man, the Austin representation for VY would have made the Fresno Mafia for HWWNBN look like amateurs. Yet another reason why that draft decision could not have gone any better.

JB said:
I hate to diagree with you, but I don't see us winning 4 more. We finish at 5-11 or 6-10 at best.

And I thought Matt Williamson was daft when he predicted the Texans to be at best a 6 win team...

FML! Like Thorn, I want to see a Houston football team win the SB before I die, though I know that is a slim hope.

Well, my 8-8 prediction was not based on optimism, hope, or any kind of sane perspective.

It was based upon historical evidence of a roster full of mediocre scrubs realizing that the ONLY chance that they have to remain in the NFL is if one Gary Kubiak retains a head coaching position with the powder puff franchise of the NFL.

I have no doubt that a proven NFL HC would immediately release 75% of this roster based upon film study and not requiring actual practice time, and of that 75% released, I'd wager that approximately 28.182% would have a solid chance at the Detroit Lions practice squad.

Mediocre players can do astounding things for career survival. We should know... :bubbles:

ChildressTitanMan · Nov 23, 2010

Young is mentally too fragile.

It's a real shame because he's actually been playing very well. Something just isn't right between him and Fisher though and hasn't been for a long time.

I don't think we have many options for 2011 beyond Young though.

Even if the Titans lose out and go 5-11 there may not be a potential franchise QB available for them in the draft.

FA options are limited.

Fisher's reputation is a myth. 17 seasons of mediocrity, I would love for the Texans to appoint Fisher as HC. I don't think he'll stay in Tennessee next year if Young stays too so it might happen..

Be careful what you wish for though, he sucks.

Double Barrel · Nov 23, 2010

^ Dude, you don't know mediocrity...at least not the fine example that our franchise has established for mediocrity.

In nine seasons we have one - absorb that number - just one winning season to show for it. And that's it. Nothing else to talk about, nothing else to mention, one freakin' winning season to hang our hats on.

Fisher, on the other hand, has won an AFC Championship, three division titles, six winning seasons (all six with 10 wins or better), and six trips to the playoffs. All of this while dealing with an obtuse, meddling owner and relocating the team twice in his tenure.

So be careful of what YOU wish for, because Fisher's replacement could really introduce you to true mediocrity, especially if his name is Gary Kubiak.

Dan B. · Nov 23, 2010

You guys need to work on your smack talk. This "my coach is more mediocre." "No, MINE is" stuff is not the way it's supposed to work.

That Shaggy link is hilarious btw. The ones charging racism are pretty good, but I like the ones that are claiming Fisher is the puppetmaster for a massive ESPN media conspiracy even more.

Dutchrudder · Nov 23, 2010

Double Barrel said:
^ Dude, you don't know mediocrity...at least not the fine example that our franchise has established for mediocrity.

In nine seasons we have one - absorb that number - just one winning season to show for it. And that's it. Nothing else to talk about, nothing else to mention, one freakin' winning season to hang our hats on.

Fisher, on the other hand, has won an AFC Championship, three division titles, six winning seasons (all six with 10 wins or better), and six trips to the playoffs. All of this while dealing with an obtuse, meddling owner and relocating the team twice in his tenure.

So be careful of what YOU wish for, because Fisher's replacement could really introduce you to true mediocrity, especially if his name is Gary Kubiak.

I wished for mediocre teams a long time ago because I HATE parades. I just can't stand them, and if I ever see one going down Memorial I just might have to move back to Cleveland where I know I'll be safe from them....

Dutchrudder · Nov 23, 2010

Dan B. said:
You guys need to work on your smack talk. This "my coach is more mediocre." "No, MINE is" stuff is not the way it's supposed to work.

That Shaggy link is hilarious btw. The ones charging racism are pretty good, but I like the ones that are claiming Fisher is the puppetmaster for a massive ESPN media conspiracy even more.

Well, Rush Limbaugh once said that about Andy Reid and McNabb. That's an odd suspicioin for Longhorns to have in common with Rush...

Double Barrel · Nov 23, 2010

Dan B. said:
You guys need to work on your smack talk. This "my coach is more mediocre." "No, MINE is" stuff is not the way it's supposed to work.

That Shaggy link is hilarious btw. The ones charging racism are pretty good, but I like the ones that are claiming Fisher is the puppetmaster for a massive ESPN media conspiracy even more.

lol!!

I long ago realized the futility of talking smack on behalf of a perpetual mediocre franchise. Although I have indulged with my fair share of smackage for our beleaguered team, I have felt somewhat of a hybrid entity between a doofus and a moron, and indulged simply to keep my skills sharp for the eventual 2022 season when our hapless franchise makes history with it's first trip and subsequent choke in the playoffs. (Which coincidentally, 2022 happens to be the same year that Peyton Manning pulls a Brett Favre by playing out the rest of his HoF career with the Mexico City Jaguars.)

p.s. I am shocked - SHOCKED, I say - that I actually spelled beleaguered right the first time. :chickendance:

ChampionTexan · Nov 23, 2010

ChildressTitanMan said:
Young is mentally too fragile.

It's a real shame because he's actually been playing very well. Something just isn't right between him and Fisher though and hasn't been for a long time.

I don't think we have many options for 2011 beyond Young though.

Even if the Titans lose out and go 5-11 there may not be a potential franchise QB available for them in the draft.

FA options are limited.

Fisher's reputation is a myth. 17 seasons of mediocrity, I would love for the Texans to appoint Fisher as HC. I don't think he'll stay in Tennessee next year if Young stays too so it might happen..

Be careful what you wish for though, he sucks.

Double Barrel said:
^ Dude, you don't know mediocrity...at least not the fine example that our franchise has established for mediocrity.

In nine seasons we have one - absorb that number - just one winning season to show for it. And that's it. Nothing else to talk about, nothing else to mention, one freakin' winning season to hang our hats on.

Fisher, on the other hand, has won an AFC Championship, three division titles, six winning seasons (all six with 10 wins or better), and six trips to the playoffs. All of this while dealing with an obtuse, meddling owner and relocating the team twice in his tenure.

So be careful of what YOU wish for, because Fisher's replacement could really introduce you to true mediocrity, especially if his name is Gary Kubiak.

Fisher would probably be towards the top of my (currently not formulated) preferred list of next HC's for the Texans assuming he was available when the position became open.

I do have a little concern about the fact that since Floyd Reese (and Jeff Diamond before him) have been gone a little while, I kind of sense a downward trend for the franchise as a whole. The list of very good to great coaches who had trouble adding the front office responsibilities to their list is a long and impressive one. Mike Holmgren jumps to mind, but I'll throw Dan Reeves in there too. Based on track record, it wouldn't be a stretch to include the Big Tuna in that list (and no, I've never thought it particularly unusual when dealing with upscale dining for two completely different people to acquire the food and prepare it).

This however is going to be 100% Fisher's call. If he wants control of personnel (and I can't fathom he won't), he's gonna get it from someone. I'm just not a fan of one person having too big a kingdom. Never really liked it with the Texans, and haven't seen too many instances where it's been really successful.

Texan_Bill · Nov 23, 2010

I just spent the last 30 minutes over there. I'm dumber for having read any of that. Neg. Rep. Lauren!!

***********************

Jeff Fisher is a racist!

Signed,

Steve McNair

:rolleyes:

Texan_Bill · Nov 23, 2010

Hookem Horns said:
Wow Lauren. I stopped visiting Shaggy Bevo not long after I joined because a few more weeks of that would have made an Aggie out of me. Hornfans has it's morons too however there is a decent balance over there. Plenty of fans over there see VY as he is.

Yeah, that place isn't very becoming of a fan base. WOW!

Dan B. · Nov 23, 2010

Wow. This is a gem of a post:

Fisher has never said anything bad about Vince, but he has his sycophants in the local media who will leak whatever vitriol he wants in order to continue to have access to the inner sanctum. Jim Wyatt and that other prick from the Tennessean. I've been reading their **** since VY got to town, and it has always been the same thing. I imagine it's the same with the local radio guys.

Fisher says, "whatever was said stays in the locker room," except it doesn't really, does it? Fisher's carefully scripted version of events gets "leaked" to the media, yet the players are forbidden from speaking publically about anything.

Machiavelli ain't got **** on Jeff Fisher.

I don't know how you can't laugh your ass off at this stuff Bill. This is gold.

Texan_Bill · Nov 23, 2010

Dan B. said:
Wow. This is a gem of a post:

I don't know how you can't laugh your ass off at this stuff Bill. This is gold.

Oh, I was LMAO!!! Some of that stuff is so stupid, it's funny as hell.

Texan_Bill · Nov 23, 2010

Travis Rodgers is referring to VY, simply as "six". :lol:

VY placed on IR ... However Bud insists that he isn't going anywhere ...

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