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Antonio Smith called for players-only D meeting

Not sure what POM actually do... just get out there and do YOUR job and things will take care of itself !
 
I like their spirit! They know what they have to do to "turn things around," now they just gotta DO IT!! I believe in them, I really do!! NO way in hell do these guys wanna go out and make fools of themselves AGAIN on MNF! As bad as they have been, they still have a lot of pride! The D will do their job!! NOW, all we gotta worry about is which Matt Schaub will show up. PLEASE football gawds, let it be the pro- bowler!!
 
It is high darned time someone did something. Often these little POMs actually turn the tide. It sure as the devil can't hurt.
 
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I wonder what was said. Hopefully it was a speech filled with inspiration, passion and knowing AS probably a little anger and some f bombs. I know I'm tired of seeing it, it's good to know THEY are tired of seeing it. I think we'll all be impressed if we start seeing improvement and where you sit on the hope scale is up to you but I'm not really expecting much. Geez, if they just pick themselves off the floor and give the impression that they are a professional football defense we'll have a hell of a better time through the end of the season.
 
Hopefully, it was a "Just do your damn job and don't worry about anything else! And bring it every damn play! You get tired, get off the field and let the next man step up.


I really think that everyone has been trying to do too much, and worried that the youngsters need help doing theirs.

Cushing missing the first 4 games threw the D out of kilter, and they got to get it back!
 
Players only meetings are for teams that are young or still trying to find their identity.

I think it is good anytime units get together and that this is an action that fits in to the accountability theme.
 
infantrycak said:
"We need veteran leadership. We need veteran leadership"

Now poo-poo it when you get it.
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I agree. We should be excited that someone on the team took the initiative to hold a players-only defensive meeting, especially after considering the fact that their captain, Demeco Ryans, has just been lost for the season. I'm proud of Antonio for stepping up as a leader, not only with his talk, but with his walk thus far in the season as well.
 
I'm just happy that they are showing some 'want to'...

Of course they have to back it up, but strong desire to do so is the first step.
 
Safety Bernard Pollard said that Smith called everybody out – including himself. And the message was loud and clear.

“We’ve got to be able to come together,” Pollard said. “We made a vow. We made a vow to each other… We made a vow to turn this thing around.”

He had the full attention of his teammates during their closed-doors meeting.

“‘Tonio has been a big part of this defense,” Pollard said. “He’s been a big part in this locker room. He’s a silly dude, but he’s a guy who knows how to win. He’s a guy who’s been to a Super Bowl. He knows what it takes to get to that quarterback, he knows what it takes to get that camaraderie out of everybody, and that’s something that we’re looking to do.

“That (meeting) is something that he called, and we all made the vow with him… Everybody shut up. Everybody listened to him. That’s something we needed.”

Defensive tackle Shaun Cody said that the meeting was “overdue.”
“It was time for us to have a meeting,” Cody said. “Hopefully, it’ll help us in our defensive play.

“Antonio’s a leader on our defense. He had some pretty good things for us to hear. You hope it helps, but then again, it’s just words. You’ve got to still go out there and do it.”

Perhaps the meeting is already having a carry-over effect. Pollard said Texans coach Gary Kubiak told players that Thursday’s practice was one of the best that he has seen from the defense.

“I think it checked everybody,” Pollard said. “I think all the guys on our defense actually had to re-evaluate their self, check their self, and today was a great practice… That’s just something that we have to continue to do. “

Of course, the effort that matters most will be the one the Texans give on Monday night in their intra-divisional clash with Peyton Manning and the Indianapolis Colts.

“He’s going to Canton (Hall of Fame),” Pollard said. “Peyton is the best quarterback in the game right now. He’s the best. But this is a must-win for us. This is a must-win for our defense. This is a time for us to step up.”
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Just win baby.

And if the dreaded Manning is knocked in the dirt in the process, so much the better. I don't care how they do it, as long as they are 5-2 when the game is over. I’m skeptical of any large defensive improvement, but if it happens, I’ll be the first to lead us all in a chorus of Hallelujah’s. I’ve been wanting the return of the House of Pain for a long time now, but considering the shape of our present defense, I really don’t think it’ll be happening any time in the near future.

We’ll see come Monday night who’s who and what’s what anyway.
 
I think the problem was just a typo in our defensive play book. Should have read: Bend, but don't break instead of bend, and then break. We should have it sorted out after this meeting.
 
I feel like im having deja vu......could this be the most important game in our history?????

first legit chance to sweep the colts on our way to tie with the tacks for the lead in the division?

Surprised this talk hasnt happened yet.....let it get started....

On another note, I am effing pumped that a veteran in Smith called a players only meeting with only the defense. I would have been happier to see Cushing or Mario do it but its all the same essentially.

I really hope we see a difference in these guys. I think its the fire thats been missing in guys like Pollard, Cush, and our D-line. Theres no doubt that the rest of the defense feeds off of our playmakers when they start playing lights out. Hopefully it starts this Monday in front of the whole country.

Lets get the attention of the rest of the AFC and show them what were made of.

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Rey said:
I'm just happy that they are showing some 'want to'...

Of course they have to back it up, but strong desire to do so is the first step.
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You are 100% correct my friend. Even with all the talent in the world, if they dont have the "want to", it all goes to S--t. Case in point -----> Dallas Cowboys, ridiculous talent, no want to. You can tell in the way they take the field and play. They had the desire when they played us because there was so much riding on it.....thats why they whooped our asses up and down the field.....on the other side, it was "just another game" for us. Thats BS, it should've been way more than that for every player on our beloved Texan team because it sure as hell was for us.

I have a feeling we will see a different Texan defense on Monday.....but like you said Rey, its all about the desire and want to. Gotta start somewhere.

Well put.
 
JB said:
What??? Where did you come up with that?

Man you have switched around faster than that damn eye test girl!
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I told you yesterday..... I'm trying to change, trying to see what it's like to be a debbie downer..... trying to back up from the kool-aide.

But it ain't easy.

I love this team.
 
Look they can have all the damn team meeting in the world, if they don't back it up, and for 6 games they haven't thus far, it don't mean shiznit!

Frankly, I am tired of the "We are going to turn it around" and the "we are working hard to change it" and " we are getting better and making more plays" bull excuses.

I WANT A PUNCH YOU IN THE MOUTH, SLAP YOUR MAMA, BREAK A FOOT OFF IN YOUR ASS DEFENSE AND I WANT IT NOW!

Until I see it, I won't believe in it....
 
BullNation4Life said:
Look they can have all the damn team meeting in the world, if they don't back it up, and for 6 games they haven't thus far, it don't mean shiznit!

Frankly, I am tired of the "We are going to turn it around" and the "we are working hard to change it" and " we are getting better and making more plays" bull excuses.

I WANT A PUNCH YOU IN THE MOUTH, SLAP YOUR MAMA, BREAK A FOOT OFF IN YOUR ASS DEFENSE AND I WANT IT NOW!

Until I see it, I won't believe in it....
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And when you see it, you will call it a fluke and not believe it. Just go ahead and drag the wagon all you want.
 
Finally.

This HAS been long overdue.

There wasn't a unified feeling in the defense. The d-line played for the d-line. The LBers played for the LBers. And the secondary played for itself, too. Three separate units out there, all disconnected from the other units, acting almost independently of one another.

Antonio Smith did what a leader does: Makes the call and dishes out the butt chewing. Mario Williams didn't make the call, and neither did Okoye. Antonio Smith did. Sometimes a season's best player isn't the one who has the best stats...it's the one who does what Antonio Smith did: Call a meeting and making people look one another in the eyes and admit that things are broken.

Plus, as has been pointed out by others, Smith HAS been to a Super Bowl. He has credibility when he's the one doing the rallying of the troops. Psychologically, you want Smith being the one who calls the meeting AND leads the meeting. The other guys haven't been to a championship game. This same type of meeting, had it been called and led by Pollard, would never have been as potentially useful (in the long run).

I like it. Now what we need is for our offense to become VERY vocal supporters and active cheerleaders for the defense on game day this Monday Night. We need energy on the sideline, with our offense showing full support the whole game.

Rah-rah-sis-boom-bah, and all that jazz.....just take the Colts to the glue factory. Let's teach these guys that they have a new role in the AFC South.
 
We beat the Colts with David "The Mittens" Carr and Ron "I always run in slow motion and ruin my own teammates career" Dayne.

We came close with Sage "I will sell out my previous team" Rosencopter.

We came within field goals last year with Kris "Atleast I won Reggie Bowl" Brown.

Why is it we have the woe is me Eeyore attitude? Dude, it isnt impossible. Is it because some dont want to go out on a ledge a say "Yea, I think we are going to beat them. We done it with better and worse." No, some dont.

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Some want to be "realists" and say "Oh, its the unpredictable Texans. They are my team even though they continuely dissapoint me, but I am a good fan a root for them even when I pick them to lose. But I want them to win. I just dont think they will because its, gasp, Peyton Manning. And my team, they give me no reason to think they can pull it out. I want them to win, I am just not going to say it on a message board because everything sticks here and I dont want to be called dillusional. I mean, I can never be wrong. I always want an out so I can be right."

A POM is something you want. Can we remember the last players meeting our team had? I remember the Cowboys had one right before us and how did that turn out? Are you asking for accountability? Are you asking for fire, intensity, leadership? Well check off the boxes you got it from our team. Granted, they need to follow through. We will see. Meanwhile let get excited and fired up like the players.

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By the way, I am passing out Kool-Aide, sittin underneath my rainbow and sunshine. Its nice over here. Step away from ledge, out of the rain and join me.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
Players only meetings are for teams that are young or still trying to find their identity.

I think it is good anytime units get together and that this is an action that fits in to the accountability theme.
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Agreed Toro.

I've never been as high on Smith as some are in here, but I do like to hear this. It really shows that the guy is trying to be a leader and is passionate about turning this thing around. Kudos to Smith. Hopefully this has some kind of effect. :texflag:
 
GP said:
Finally.
I like it. Now what we need is for our offense to become VERY vocal supporters and active cheerleaders for the defense on game day this Monday Night. We need energy on the sideline, with our offense showing full support the whole game.
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Our offense needs to show it's support by contributing to the butt kicking from Kick-off to the final whistle. If they wait till half-way through the third Qtr to join in the fun, this won't be any better than the Washington/KC win.

60 minutes from both sides.
 
TexansBull said:
We beat the Colts with David "The Mittens" Carr and Ron "I always run in slow motion and ruin my own teammates career" Dayne.

We came close with Sage "I will sell out my previous team" Rosencopter.

We came within field goals last year with Kris "Atleast I won Reggie Bowl" Brown.

Why is it we have the woe is me Eeyore attitude? Dude, it isnt impossible.
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I think, what the negative nancies are acknowledging is just what you've posted. We've come close... we did with Dayne.. yadda, yadda, yadda... all that proves is that we've been good enough to beat these jokers for at least 4 years, but we've only closed the deal once.

Most of us believe it's a mental thing... a softness issue. The debate, is where does that "attitude" start.
TexansBull said:
Some want to be "realists" and say "Oh, its the unpredictable Texans.
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No.

The Texans are completely predictable. This situation isn't completely new. The numbers (4-2, 5-3) may be a little different, some of the specifics may be different. But you've got to be a fool not to know what this team usually does in this situation.


TexansBull said:
Are you asking for fire, intensity, leadership? Well check off the boxes you got it from our team. Granted, they need to follow through. We will see. Meanwhile let get excited and fired up like the players.
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I think all of us has done our job.... getting fired up, rooting, cheering, representing... & payed back in heartaches...
 
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thunderkyss said:
I think, what the negative nancies are acknowledging is just what you've posted. We've come close... we did with Dayne.. yadda, yadda, yadda... all that proves is that we've been good enough to beat these jockers for at least 4 years, but we've only closed the deal once.

Most of us believe it's a mental thing... a softness issue. The debate, is where does that "attitude" start.

No.

The Texans are completely predictable. This situation isn't completely new. The numbers (4-2, 5-3) may be a little different, some of the specifics may be different. But you've got to be a fool not to know what this team usually does in this situation.




I think all of us has done our job.... getting fired up, rooting, cheering, representing... & payed back in heartaches...
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You know you are right about what you said. A lot of people have poured thousands of dollars into the team and have a right to be negative and voice their feelings. I didnt have season tickets, tailgate, and watch all the close wins last year in person so I imagine many have been burnt too long to get excited. Owner decisions, coaching decisions, player decisions...I assume it takes more of a toll on a person seeing it in person. Its like if your wife cheated on you. How different a person would react walking in on it and seeing it in action, or her telling you about it. I can see why some people have a harder time getting fired up as I am. I appreciate the fact that some have been burned that way and cant get excited about this stuff.

I was just thinking more would be fired up about a POM because I cant recall one in recent history. Especially since we are going 14 days without Texans football.

But I disagree about the team being predictable, unless you are saying they are predictably unpredictable. We have found ways to win this season. That is new to this team. Its like Rick Smith said "Bob, you finally have a football team." I believe this year we can finally compete every Sunday with every team and win this year.This team is its own worse enemy, but thats not unique to them. Every NFL team is like that.
 
We've been hearing this crap for 9 years. Just shut up and play. The money we're paying you bums should be enough motivation.
 
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