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I hate to say it but I think we lose next week at Oakland. I've had a bad feeling about this game since the schedule came out.



Hope I'm wrong.
 
I think its gonna be an Arian Foster field day. Oakland is a really undisciplined run defense. Foster's gonna get 30+ carries and how well we run it will decide this game.
 
RTP2110 said:
This has trap game written all over it, and Oakland didn't look too bad today. I don't like it.
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Trap game? Maybe if we had beat the Cowboys today, but the team has Oakland circled now. I don't think there is any chance we lose this game (if the team is feeling anything like I am right now).
 
Well good thing Fat albert is not playing then :whew that arm strength was pretty impressive im not gonna LIe
 
The Texans should win this one. Our LT Henderson is a joke and has been getting Campbell & Grads killed in these past 3 games. Gradkowski clicks much better with our team than Campbell does, but he definitely isn't leaps and bounds better than JC. Today's game could have been a hell of a lot different if Arizona's D knew how to catch, Grads threw about 2-3 balls that could have been intercepted easily.

McFadden is finally turning into the RB Raiders fans were hoping for, and now that Bush is back we finally have a decent run game.

m5kwatts said:
I think its gonna be an Arian Foster field day. Oakland is a really undisciplined run defense. Foster's gonna get 30+ carries and how well we run it will decide this game.
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Yes our run D sucks, but after watching these past few games, I'm beginning to think our pass D is worse. I don't need to talk about Nnamdi, he's a beast, but our other CBs (Routt/McFadden) blow. Our safeties aren't doing much better either.

The only chance the Raiders have of winning this game is to pick on the rookie CB as much as possible. DHB is known for his speed, and he is much better than he was last year (I know that really doesn't mean much) and Murphy is almost as fast so I'm hoping they'll be able to get open frequently. Grads will have a safety net in our TE, Zach Miller, so I'm hoping he uses Zach as much as possible.

Will be an interesting game for sure. If the Raiders can keep the game close, then there may still be hope for our season. If we get blown out, well...who knows what will happen. Al is never predictable ;).
 
Man we going to handle teh Raiders Just like we handled them last Year what was it 40 to 6 or somethin :P

I for see OD having a big game Just run da Ball and we will be fine !!!!!


ITS FOSTER TIME SUCKAS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
GuerillaBlack said:
Can you guys just trade us Aso for our first next year and a player? Please?
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Haha maybe if that player was AJ. Trading a beast for another beast...sounds fair enough :fingergun:.


m5kwatts said:
Forget Aso, I want Seymour. Hell I'd take Shaugnessy or Trevor Scott even.
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I actually wouldn't mind trading Seymour, Davis was stupid as hell to give away a 1st for him when we have so many other positions we need to fill. I doubt we'd get anywhere near a 1st for him though.

I'm really liking Shaugnessy, but the player I'm really high on right now has to be Lamarr Houston. From what I've seen so far, it seems like the guy has "it"...the same "it" that players like Peppers, Seymour, & Williams have. I know I'm speaking a bit too soon, but there isn't really much else I can look forward to this season :facepalm:.
 
NitroHonda said:
I smell a troll in this thread. Don't let him suck you into his black hole!

:)

No injuries to both! A little pain would be ok though...
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:D

I'm hoping for an injury free game as well, and hopefully a close one too. I wish I could make it to the game, but my family & friends backed out. Shame, would have been nice seeing AJ in action.
 
Kulluminatii said:
:D

I'm hoping for an injury free game as well, and hopefully a close one too. I wish I could make it to the game, but my family & friends backed out. Shame, would have been nice seeing AJ in action.
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AJ simply does not perform against Asomugha. That's what I call a SHUT DOWN corner.

How about Owen Daniels and our first? I bet he had a bionic knee put in this time around! Third time's a charm right?
 
NitroHonda said:
How about Owen Daniels and our first? I bet he had a bionic knee put in this time around! Third time's a charm right?
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As a possible trade scenario with Aso? I would doubt that would ever happen, since we are pretty much set at the TE position with Zach Miller. I've already made it known that if Aso does leave Oakland, I would want him to go to you guys. Hopefully I'll never have to see the day he wears a uni that isn't silver & black, but I would not be able to blame him if he does. He's constantly bought into each new HC's BS that "this is the year" and I think he's nearing the point where he has finally had enough of it. It will be interesting to see how the lockout would affect contracts if it were to happen.

Looking at Nnamdi's contract, if a lockout happened but the contract was still valid...he would be a free agent by the time the NFL resumed play.

On February 19, 2009 the Raiders re-signed Asomugha to a complex three-year deal that makes him the highest paid defensive back in NFL history. The first two years, worth $28.5 million, are fully guaranteed. In the third year of the contract, if Oakland wants to keep Asomugha, it must pay him the average of the top five highest-paid quarterbacks or $16.875 million, whichever is higher. If the Raiders fail to pick up the option, Asomugha will become a free agent with Oakland not having the ability to tag him again.
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The Oakland game for us is all about getting back to Texans football. Running the ball effectively, protecting Schaub and moving the ball downfield. On defense, getting pressure up front, and stopping the run.

I think it's also an important game to see how much of a team the Texans really are. They had an embarassing performance against Dallas, can they come back and beat a team like the Raiders
 
I think we are 3-1 when Cushing comes back and the Giants are in town. And right now, the Giants aren't looking so hot. It's very possible we are 5-1 going into the bye week. Before the season started, I would have been very happy with 3-3 at that time, now I'll settle for nothing less than 4-2 and I think we'll even do better. Out of the next three weeks, only the Chiefs scare me, not the Raiders or the Giants.

The problem is the Texans are the consummate Jeckle and Hyde team.
 
thanks for your insight Kulluminatii. I've got a couple more questions like how is the Raider pass rush looking? loved Rolando McClain (former teammate of Kareems @ Alabama) how is he doing? what is the coaching situation like is their added weight to beat Texans @ home?
 
I hope the team feels as disgusted with this game as I am and they come out and do something to The Raiders. That is a good team to beat right now. It's not like they suck or anything. Come out, beat the Raiders, and we started the first quarter of our season 3-1 for the first time ever.
 
The Oakland game just took on massive importance to the Texans (and hopefully the Texans players understand this). 3-1 is still something to be pleased about. 2-2 is just the same old **** in a shiny new package. That's particularly true following a route at home to the Cowboys in the last edition of our endless series of "statement games".

Every player in that locker room should be thinking must-win right now. If they aren't then "we aren't who we thought we are"
 
Captain Kirk has something for Oakland....... :lol:


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The Oakland game is now a must-win game.

The Chief game, which was looking like a gimme prior to the season, is now looking like a tough game.

Oakland played the Cards hard and really should have won that game. We HAVE to take care of business and beat them.
 
Kulluminatii said:
The Texans should win this one. Our LT Henderson is a joke and has been getting Campbell & Grads killed in these past 3 games. Gradkowski clicks much better with our team than Campbell does, but he definitely isn't leaps and bounds better than JC. Today's game could have been a hell of a lot different if Arizona's D knew how to catch, Grads threw about 2-3 balls that could have been intercepted easily.

McFadden is finally turning into the RB Raiders fans were hoping for, and now that Bush is back we finally have a decent run game.



Yes our run D sucks, but after watching these past few games, I'm beginning to think our pass D is worse. I don't need to talk about Nnamdi, he's a beast, but our other CBs (Routt/McFadden) blow. Our safeties aren't doing much better either.

The only chance the Raiders have of winning this game is to pick on the rookie CB as much as possible. DHB is known for his speed, and he is much better than he was last year (I know that really doesn't mean much) and Murphy is almost as fast so I'm hoping they'll be able to get open frequently. Grads will have a safety net in our TE, Zach Miller, so I'm hoping he uses Zach as much as possible.

Will be an interesting game for sure. If the Raiders can keep the game close, then there may still be hope for our season. If we get blown out, well...who knows what will happen. Al is never predictable ;).
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The names change but the result usually remains the same.

Our defense, more often than not ( always? ), makes pedestrian qb's look like all pros.

Most likely Raiders fans will be singing Gradkowski's praises next week.


:coffee:
 
If we don't beat Oakland, then I will have to start thinking that this staff just won't get it done. I have been a stern Kubiak supporter, but if he can't handle the Raiders and we look like we looked yesterday then I will have to just assume that something is missing from his coaching style. He just can't get the players to respond correctly.

If we lose to Oakland it would be hard to imagine us going on and doing great things for the rest of the year. It's not just the fact that 'its Okaland'...It's how we play in a game that we should win. A game that would give us a little more cushion to work with.

It's like a person who works their hardest in crunch time, but can't seem to grasp the concept that if you handle your chores and duties now then you can relax and have a beer later.

I'm glad that you kick it up a notch when the heat is on, but I need to see you clean the bathroom and cut the lawn early Saturday morning so you can relax and clear your mind on Sunday.

If the Texans can't handle that, then they will officially be procrastinators IMO. You can only procrastinate and still get things done for so long before it all comes crashing down. Gary Kubiak...Teach your "kids" about procrastinating and how it can have ill effects. Teach them to handle things early and enjoy the fruits of their labor later. If you can't do that, then you have failed as a parent in this particular aspect. And we will have to divorce you and find a step dad that can pick up the slack. The kids are getting older and we must instill values now.

Handle your business now Texans.
 
I don't think 2-2 is acceptable. "Any given Sunday" blah blah blah. This is a team that we should beat. We have the talent to beat them. We have to go out there and get it done. If we can beat the teams with less talent than us here on out, we should make the playoffs.
 
hradhak said:
I don't think 2-2 is acceptable. "Any given Sunday" blah blah blah. This is a team that we should beat. We have the talent to beat them. We have to go out there and get it done. If we can beat the teams with less talent than us here on out, we should make the playoffs.
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you are correct sir, but the season is young 2-2 is not good enough reason to jump off a cliff, just ask Wade :wadepalm:
 
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beerlover said:
thanks for your insight Kulluminatii. I've got a couple more questions like how is the Raider pass rush looking? loved Rolando McClain (former teammate of Kareems @ Alabama) how is he doing? what is the coaching situation like is their added weight to beat Texans @ home?
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McClain looks like he is getting better with every game. Especially this last game against Arizona, I saw him out their commanding the D ever play. Hopefully he could turn into a Silver & Black version of Ray Lewis :D.

I strongly dislike Cable, and I don't think he's fit to be a HC. Still, he's about the only guy out there crazy enough to take the HC job for the Raiders. I remember reading that Al Davis had interviewed Ken Whisenhunt & Sean Payton many years back but they both refused when Davis told them they would not have complete control.

This game should be very important to the Raiders, and especially Tom Cable. I have a feeling if we lose this game badly and the next one as well Tom Cable will be out of a job. Davis has been growing increasingly impatient over the past few years, and he wants to win now. Maybe he feels like he doesn't have much time left? Whatever the case, the Raiders can't afford to get blown out at home against the Texans.
 
Kulluminatii said:
McClain looks like he is getting better with every game. Especially this last game against Arizona, I saw him out their commanding the D ever play. Hopefully he could turn into a Silver & Black version of Ray Lewis :D.

I strongly dislike Cable, and I don't think he's fit to be a HC. Still, he's about the only guy out there crazy enough to take the HC job for the Raiders. I remember reading that Al Davis had interviewed Ken Whisenhunt & Sean Payton many years back but they both refused when Davis told them they would not have complete control.

This game should be very important to the Raiders, and especially Tom Cable. I have a feeling if we lose this game badly and the next one as well Tom Cable will be out of a job. Davis has been growing increasingly impatient over the past few years, and he wants to win now. Maybe he feels like he doesn't have much time left? Whatever the case, the Raiders can't afford to get blown out at home against the Texans.
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Who the hell would take the job now? I'm thinking Al's choices would be pretty slim, huh?
 
drs23 said:
Who the hell would take the job now? I'm thinking Al's choices would be pretty slim, huh?
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He'll hire another puppet that would probably never be a HC in the NFL if he was trying to apply for another team. Look at our past few HCs (Art Shell, Kiffin, and soon to be Cable)...none of them will ever be a HC in the NFL again.

Just got to keep reminding myself to wait a few more years...just a few...the old man can't possibly live much longer...
 
Kulluminatii said:
He'll hire another puppet that would probably never be a HC in the NFL if he was trying to apply for another team. Look at our past few HCs (Art Shell, Kiffin, and soon to be Cable)...none of them will ever be a HC in the NFL again.

Just got to keep reminding myself to wait a few more years...just a few...the old man can't possibly live much longer...
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Maybe Dallas and Oakland can trade puppet coaches.
 
Brandon420tx said:
I think Al Davis will out live you out of pure spite Kulluminatii
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I wouldn't doubt it, he's pretty much outlived the 60s/70s Raiders such as Tatum who was 20 years younger than him :brickwall:. The man is hellbent on winning 3 more Super Bowls before he goes out, and I think that alone is keeping him alive.
 
Kulluminatii said:
I wouldn't doubt it, he's pretty much outlived the 60s/70s Raiders such as Tatum who was 20 years younger than him :brickwall:. The man is hellbent on winning 3 more Super Bowls before he goes out, and I think that alone is keeping him alive.
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It's been said before, but we went through the same thing with Devil owner of the Titans. I know what it's like to be frustrated with the owner. I hope (after this Sunday, that is LOL) that the Raiders have better luck. At least your drafts are getting better!
 
Thorn said:
It's been said before, but we went through the same thing with Devil owner of the Titans. I know what it's like to be frustrated with the owner. I hope (after this Sunday, that is LOL) that the Raiders have better luck. At least your drafts are getting better!
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Haha thanks, our draft this year has pretty much been the only bright spot. I'm hoping we have a solid draft next year as well, so even with Davis running things we'll still look competitive and hopefully win more games than we will this year.

And about this game coming up, I'll consider all of you guys friends until 12:00am on Sunday. Come Sunday, its on! :wild:
 
Let me truly represent the Raiders!!!*
This Raider team is far from last years wreck.
So far our record can't back up my statement but the stats are there!*

Starting with our Defense, we are averaging 100 less yards as a team on total yards then the Texans passing D is. Chris Johnson killed us on week 1 but since we have been improving and holding the RBs to 75 yards. Our total Defense is ranked 3rd, passing D is also ranked 3rd and with Johnson hurt that will only hurt ya more. Asomugha held Fitzgerald to one catch against him and can be a big factor on this game too.*

Our offense is not a strong face but we have been running the ball pretty good, we almost average the same per game. We don't have a Texans type of passing game but we are alot better the last year.*

This WILL be a good game! Hopefully it don't come down to a kicker *
 
U know we should try Jocbey Jones on Aso how does he do aganist faster Lighter WR i kinda think JJ is faster then Fitz IMO
 
Norg said:
U know we should try Jocbey Jones on Aso how does he do aganist faster Lighter WR i kinda think JJ is faster then Fitz IMO
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I think I'd rather put AJ up against Aso. Like others have said before, if anything, AJ can be a decoy and keep Aso busy while Schaub is pretty much free to throw to his other WRs & OD. Although I'm hoping you guys don't do that, and choose to be cautious with AJ and let him rest for this game so Aso is free to shut down another WR :D.

TexasBoY25 said:
Let me truly represent the Raiders!!!*
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:rolleyes:
TexasBoY25 said:
This Raider team is far from last years wreck.
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At certain positions, yes. Veldheer & Bruce Campbell are still very raw, and we probably won't see them being productive (at least Campbell) until next year. Our o-line still needs work and until that improves I don't think any QB behind it would be able to perform well consistently. When it comes to QBs, damn near anything could be a better QB than the one we had last year. I'm also glad we got Hue Jackson as our OC.


TexasBoY25 said:
Starting with our Defense, we are averaging 100 less yards as a team on total yards then the Texans passing D is. Chris Johnson killed us on week 1 but since we have been improving and holding the RBs to 75 yards. Our total Defense is ranked 3rd, passing D is also ranked 3rd and with Johnson hurt that will only hurt ya more. Asomugha held Fitzgerald to one catch against him and can be a big factor on this game too.*
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Well besides the Titans, we haven't really been facing great teams. The Rams & Cards are nowhere near as stacked as the Texans are offensively and we barely managed to beat the Rams and lost against a team we should have beat.


TexasBoY25 said:
Our offense is not a strong face but we have been running the ball pretty good, we almost average the same per game. We don't have a Texans type of passing game but we are alot better the last year.*
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I agree, our run game has improved a ton now that McFadden has finally stepped his game up and DHB/Murphy are improving with each game.

TexasBoY25 said:
This WILL be a good game! Hopefully it don't come down to a kicker
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I actually kind of hope it does :D. I trust Janikowski a lot more than I trust the Texan's kicker. I think yesterday was just one of those off days for him, we all know Jano can pull off 60 yarders, so if it comes down to a FG again this week I'm confident he can pull it off.
 
Kulluminatii said:
Haha thanks, our draft this year has pretty much been the only bright spot. I'm hoping we have a solid draft next year as well, so even with Davis running things we'll still look competitive and hopefully win more games than we will this year.

And about this game coming up, I'll consider all of you guys friends until 12:00am on Sunday. Come Sunday, its on! :wild:
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Why noon though? Game starts at 3:05.
 
Norg said:
U know we should try Jocbey Jones on Aso how does he do aganist faster Lighter WR i kinda think JJ is faster then Fitz IMO
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I'd like to see JJ start as the #1 if AJ sits. It would be an interesting experiment. Although JJ has had a case of the dropsies here and there.
 
Stemp said:
Maybe Dallas and Oakland can trade puppet coaches.
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Damnation, you got there first!

Kulluminatii, I appreciate your insight, but I'm thinking (hoping) that the Texans treat this game with the Raiders the way the Cowboys treated their game with us: with a pissed-off desperation, determined to right some bad perceptions.

The Raiders are currently ranked 23 in run D, I think, and Foster just got 100+ against #7 ranked Cowboys. So I expect a big day from Arian.

I'm not sure what I expect from the carbonized remnants of our secondary.
 
Kulluminatii said:
I think I'd rather put AJ up against Aso. Like others have said before, if anything, AJ can be a decoy and keep Aso busy while Schaub is pretty much free to throw to his other WRs & OD. Although I'm hoping you guys don't do that, and choose to be cautious with AJ and let him rest for this game so Aso is free to shut down another WR :D.
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i read somewhere the coaching staff was finally open to letting Aso be more of a shadow CB instead of being just on one side of the field, has that been the case so far?
 
Time for Bruce Gradkowski's coming out party.

Anyone remember that Ryan Fitzpatrick's career is being carried by him absolutely destroying the Texans secondary? I was thinking that those DB's should be getting a % of his pay checks.

Gradkowski's up next, he's about to get PAID!!
 
NitroHonda said:
Why noon though? Game starts at 3:05.
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I guess I worded it awkwardly. I mean that as soon as its Sunday, I forget we were ever friends until the game is over :fingergun:.

Jeff S. said:
Damnation, you got there first!

Kulluminatii, I appreciate your insight, but I'm thinking (hoping) that the Texans treat this game with the Raiders the way the Cowboys treated their game with us: with a pissed-off desperation, determined to right some bad perceptions.
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I wouldn't expect any less from the Texans, and I'm hoping the Raiders are pissed-off as well after losing the way they did in Arizona.

Trap_Star said:
i read somewhere the coaching staff was finally open to letting Aso be more of a shadow CB instead of being just on one side of the field, has that been the case so far?
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Yup, and it has helped us immensely. For the first two games Aso's reputation made it so that he rarely (if ever) got balls thrown his way. I'd say Arizona is the first team to actually challenge Aso, and rightfully so since they have a terrific WR. The result, Fitz only had 2 receptions for 26 yards and 1 TD. And that one TD was in the red-zone and I don't think Aso was covering him.

kiwitexansfan said:
Time for Bruce Gradkowski's coming out party.

Anyone remember that Ryan Fitzpatrick's career is being carried by him absolutely destroying the Texans secondary? I was thinking that those DB's should be getting a % of his pay checks.

Gradkowski's up next, he's about to get PAID!!
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I hope you're right :D.
 
I think we will pull this out. I'm counting a big performance form the D-Line this week. I'm more afraid of the Giants destroying our Pass D. (yes they have been losing but Eli has been slinging the ball all over the field and those interceptions have been a result of a lot of tipped balls)
 
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