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lol @ :Kareem Jackson
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m5kwatts
Veteran
I'll give you the Roy slant. That was boneheaded. I still think this front four is making the back 7 look so bad. Kareem had some good hits in this game. Rookie CBs are going to struggle and McCain isn't any more ready than Kareem. We just need these DBs to grow up which will happen. The problem to me is the pass rush.
TexCanada
All Pro
Pass rush and FS play. Wilson was not helping these young guys out at all.
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
Lets see what Troy Nolan can do back there instead of Eugune Wilson.
Jackie Chiles
Veteran
Ugh, did Wilson drop a pick 6 or what? Gift wrapped too.
Brisco_County
Apples and roadmaps
Might as well. Wilson looked terrible.
awtysst
Draft Guru
That pick six ties the game at 10. We grab the momentum and who knows what happens the rest of the game. It was a key drop.
Blake
MMQB
the problem to you is 4 vets, Mario Williams, Amobi, Antonio Smith and the other guy? Not the ROOKIE cornerback? Romo was getting the ball out in 2 seconds. Not the d-lines fault.
It's ok that he is playing like crap. He is a rookie. But if you are going to trust a rookie on an island he needs more safety support. Bad game plan by the DC.
cdollaz
Rookie
Is it really funny?
That's what I was thinking. What kind of true fan thinks it is funny when our players do not play well. Especially calling out a particular player when the player they apparantly adore didn't do anything either.
Maddict5
Hall of Fame
euro-Texan
Rookie
Is Petey Faggins still available?
Brandon420tx
Flounder
Ehhh ... Dunta isn't really lighting it up in Falcon Land, and he was bad when thrown at last year. The only reason he wasn't thrown at more often last year was because we were pretty much playing Quin and McCain on the opponents best receivers.
Our DB Coach needs to have a day dedicated to press coverage this week, thats for sure
Our DB Coach needs to have a day dedicated to press coverage this week, thats for sure
Hardcore Texan
Magnet Man
Yep.
Goatcheese
Texan
Actually D-Rob was usually on the opponents #1.
Brandon420tx
Flounder
I don't have footage to back up my claim, but I'm pretty sure from midway through the season on it was Quin and Reeves usually on the top target
Blake
MMQB
Yeah lets not get into the whos a true fan debate. I don't have to justify my thoughts to you. I've put my time in.
awtysst
Draft Guru
Thats why i was diaspointed Nolan didn't get into this game. We saw Barber couldn't handle it last season, give Nolan a chance. Whats the worst he could do: play worse than Wilson?!
cdollaz
Rookie
You don't 'have' to do anything. Buy you look like a dumbass when you claim to be a fan and then laugh when a player on the team you are a supposed fan of does not play well. Sure, you don't owe me any explanation. Likewise, I don't owe you any slack when it comes to expressing my opinion on your comments.
awtysst
Draft Guru
Super Mario has been here a long time. I interpreted his "laugh" as a type of nervous chuckle or a head shaking laughter in disbelief. I do not think he was literally laughing manically at KJ.
NitroGSXR
Super Sic #58
Hey now... play nice. Super Mario is a great fan and a well respected poster. I don't think he resembles anything near a dumbass. I can't say the same for Kareem though!!
Wolf
100% Texan
hell I am laughing at this mess
why? because I have gone from sighing, to disbelief, to anger to laughing (can't get much angrier and have to let it go)
not just at jackson but the whole secondary.. giving up 1069 yards over 3 games? (and NO I don't buy into the "we played great quarterbacks excuse"
It is a freaking mess right now
why? because I have gone from sighing, to disbelief, to anger to laughing (can't get much angrier and have to let it go)
not just at jackson but the whole secondary.. giving up 1069 yards over 3 games? (and NO I don't buy into the "we played great quarterbacks excuse"
It is a freaking mess right now
MojoMan
Hall of Fame
If you start a rookie at QB, he is going to get burned. However, this is the best way to get him up to speed. You have to learn sometime. For Kareem Jackson, that time is now.
Cut the kid some slack. The Texans will not have any idea what they have in this player until the end of the season, at the very earliest. And it could be next year before he starts coming into his own. If he ever does, that is.
Cut the kid some slack. The Texans will not have any idea what they have in this player until the end of the season, at the very earliest. And it could be next year before he starts coming into his own. If he ever does, that is.
we're trying to get to the playoffs this year though, and his play will have a direct correlation to that.
TimeKiller
Guest
Hey, he didn't look so hot today huh? I'll step up. I thought Kareem Jackson was all that and a bag of potato chips. :snap: Throw your eggs at me, I want 'em. You wanna pick on the rookie though, pick on the puddle-of-goo-safety defense we're bringing. Pollard was AWESOME last year and this year he's made 2 plays that had NOTHING to do with him being anywhere near good as a coverage man. Add that Wilson is 6 steps too slow to be any sort of threat lining up as a center fielder and as far as dropping gifts, wrapped up and delivered with a name tag TO: EUGENE, FROM: TONY...well, we let the last guy who did that walk. I suggest a similar action. I also suggest putting your safeties in a position to matter so a flailing offense doesn't make you look like you're playing 11 on 9. Frankly, I'm ready to see a Barber or Nolan get their shot to keep a job and I'm also completely ready to see one or the other or both come in obvious passing downs to be an extra COVERAGE man instead of a guy who is geared for stopping run plays.
Blake
MMQB
Blake
MMQB
Thanks for calling me a dumbass. Just because I am a fan doesn't mean I have to have blinders on like you. Jackson needs help. And it's up to the DC to make sure he doesn't get burned 3 games straight. Get over yourself and blind homerism, and see that we have a BIG problem in the 2ndary.
Goatcheese
Texan
Ah to see those dreads bouncing through the secondary again, giving up just 34 yards per game, or 0.88 yards per play in coverage (13th in the NFL).
Oh how I miss being a top 20 pass defense.
NitroGSXR
Super Sic #58
I think he needs shoes with more cleat to it. Kid kept falling down.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
This looked mighty familiar to me.
Last season we were starting a pretty good 2 and a rookie on the other side at CB.
This year that rookie has become the "pretty good 2" and we have another rookie on the other side (Jackson).
Jackson is raw, no doubt about it. All that talk about Saban having him ready to hit the ground running appears to have been premature. He's got a few ordinary rookie issues and isn't ready to start in the NFL yet. It appears that our plan to cast off all of our lousy veteran corners and go into the season with just our lousy wet-behind-the-ears corners isn't so smart after all.
Now that I think about it that seems familiar too doesn't it? Aaron Glenn out the door, Philip Buchanon bringing youth and speed.... but I digress.
I think that after watching the defense for three weeks that the primary difference between last year and this year is Wilson not being the player he was last year for whatever reason and Cushing not being around to drop into coverage. Add to that the undeniable fact that Frank Bush seems to be setting them up much the same way Richard Smith did (probably to try and cover for the rookie and Cushing being gone) and we look bad in pass defense.
We're stuck right now. I worry that Wilson has hit some kind of veteran wall and "lost a step" to borrow a cliche. Nobody can find a good starting corner three weeks into the season without arranging a trade or something and the only time anybody trades away a starter-quality corner is when he's more trouble than he's worth or wants the GNP of a small country to play.
Glover Quin is barely holding his own right now.
Kareem Jackson is toast this year.
Eugene Wilson looks like he just turned 40.
Pollard can only knock the piss out of so much.
Brice McCain is getting abused at least as much as the other guys.
They're 5-6 yards away from receivers when those receivers catch the ball. They start the play 5-6 yards off the line of scrimmage. Somebody isn't showing a lot of confidence in our ready to play rookie. Either they're being overprotective or they're afraid we'll all see him as he really is and jump their butts for letting Dunta go.
I'm not going to freak though. He'll get better and Cush will come back. Things will sort themselves out. We need to beat Oakland and then get to the end of Cushings suspension at 3-1.
Before the season started there isn't a poster in here who wouldn't have taken that in a heartbeat. Lets get to 3-1, get Cush back and see what happens.
Last season we were starting a pretty good 2 and a rookie on the other side at CB.
This year that rookie has become the "pretty good 2" and we have another rookie on the other side (Jackson).
Jackson is raw, no doubt about it. All that talk about Saban having him ready to hit the ground running appears to have been premature. He's got a few ordinary rookie issues and isn't ready to start in the NFL yet. It appears that our plan to cast off all of our lousy veteran corners and go into the season with just our lousy wet-behind-the-ears corners isn't so smart after all.
Now that I think about it that seems familiar too doesn't it? Aaron Glenn out the door, Philip Buchanon bringing youth and speed.... but I digress.
I think that after watching the defense for three weeks that the primary difference between last year and this year is Wilson not being the player he was last year for whatever reason and Cushing not being around to drop into coverage. Add to that the undeniable fact that Frank Bush seems to be setting them up much the same way Richard Smith did (probably to try and cover for the rookie and Cushing being gone) and we look bad in pass defense.
We're stuck right now. I worry that Wilson has hit some kind of veteran wall and "lost a step" to borrow a cliche. Nobody can find a good starting corner three weeks into the season without arranging a trade or something and the only time anybody trades away a starter-quality corner is when he's more trouble than he's worth or wants the GNP of a small country to play.
Glover Quin is barely holding his own right now.
Kareem Jackson is toast this year.
Eugene Wilson looks like he just turned 40.
Pollard can only knock the piss out of so much.
Brice McCain is getting abused at least as much as the other guys.
They're 5-6 yards away from receivers when those receivers catch the ball. They start the play 5-6 yards off the line of scrimmage. Somebody isn't showing a lot of confidence in our ready to play rookie. Either they're being overprotective or they're afraid we'll all see him as he really is and jump their butts for letting Dunta go.
I'm not going to freak though. He'll get better and Cush will come back. Things will sort themselves out. We need to beat Oakland and then get to the end of Cushings suspension at 3-1.
Before the season started there isn't a poster in here who wouldn't have taken that in a heartbeat. Lets get to 3-1, get Cush back and see what happens.
cdollaz
Rookie
A blind homer? Good one. Check my posts on here and you will see I am anything but as I will criticize as needed, even Kareem Jackson, who isn't playing well.
Well thought out (and well-expressed) critique is needed, but your "na na na na na, I told you so" original post came off as childish.
Goatcheese
Texan
3rd game back from a near career ending injury. Not exactly the same as a young, healthy K-burnt getting torched for 100+ yards per game.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
We get it. You want to have Dunta's baby. No change from last season but now he's gone and your love affair has ended. Nothing left to do but start working on clever nicknames for the rookie who replaced your guy.
The difference is upside. Jackson has some, Dunta is pretty close to fresh out.
Goatcheese
Texan
Don't be a child. Stating that K-Burnt can't hold Robinson's "Pay MeRick" shoes isn't a love affair. It's the simple truth.
"X"-burnt has been the official Texans forum moniker for unsatisfactory corners since 2005 with P.Buch. It's been used for Buchanon, Faggins, Reeves, Robinson and now Jackson and probably soon to be Quin and McCain. Also acceptable would be calling K-Burnt one of the Petey's.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
I don't know who you replace him with. They're all young, dumb, and full of... well you know. Now would be a good time for some patience. So far we've looked horrific against Peyton Manning, Donovan McNabb, and Tony Romo.
No good QB's in that bunch right?
Next week they get to go up against Oakland and their boy Gradkowski. He of 9 of 19 passing for 130 yards and 1TD/1INT. Very mortal QB play on the horizon.
Lets see what happens.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
Look, I've been reading your posts about Dunta for well over a year now and I know exactly how you feel about the man and the way many posters in here view him. You fought a good fight but there was no love for your boy in the crowd and now you think that because the rookie the Texans replaced him with is playing like a guy with three games against three Pro Bowl QB's to his credit it's time to drag out the big "I Told You So" sign.
Your lament on missing his flowing dreads in the secondary was touching.