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Saints-Texans: GP's things he witnessed

GP

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Things that made me mad:

1. Special Teams as a whole. Wait, it should be "Special Teams as a HOLE." Because that's what it was. A big, hairy, stinky hole. We couldn't down the ball on the 1 because our special teams' guys had their heads up their rears, even though it bounced nicely several times before hitting the end zone. The snap to Rackers on our first FG was high and caused him to delay his stride toward the ball, almost wrecking the attempt. Trindon Holliday is as good as cut, period. On one punt to the Saints, we had him pinned at the 3 and he gets to the 17 before being tackled--A +14-yard field position for the Saints.

2. Defense as a hole. Where were these guys? They got manhandled all game. I kept waiting for someone or a few someones to flip a switch and reverse the tide, but it never came. Their 2's were dominating our 1's, unless they had more offense-side 1's out there than I realized. Chase Daniel? Seriously? Chase Freaking Daniel? LOL. Reggie Bush ran circles around us, Mario Williams gave up on plays EARLY, and Brees and his head coach make our offense AND our defense look like Pee-Wee League out there.

3. Antonio Smith. Reggie Bush runs around the right side of his offensive line, Smith pursues the play (untouched/unblocked) down the line...tracking Bush nicely...and when Bush cuts back into the inside, Smith has BUsh in his arms and lets him go. I mean, like "Release captured butterflies go" let go. I was screaming at the TV over this. This is insufferable. Apparently, though, the entire defense was told that they had the night off from proper tackling technique.

4. Trindon Holliday. This guy better have blackmail on Kubiak if he desires to make the team. Has a great opening kick return, IIRC, and then proceeds to royally blow every attempt after that (which included a fumble because he didn't come up and get underneath the ball enough). Out comes Slaton and Jacoby Jones to perform return duties. %$#@! There is no sticking up for the guy, no matter how badly you want to. He's going to need 100% positive plays for the rest of the camp if he wants a shot to make this team. And even then, it might not be enough.

5. TV Commentating. Once again, I understand the idea behind having a home-team, homer'ish commentating team paid to cover your team's games. You get a heavy dose of friendly analysis. What was stoopid was how they had so much to say about LSU. I know it was CST, which I infer means College Sports Network? Meaning this station that carried the game (CST) is normally dedicated to LSU/college coverage? Regardless, it was wearing me out. Mute-the-TV wearing me out. There was one play, early, when Brees had to throw the ball in the dirt quickly because (IIRC) Cushing had blown up the RB's blocking attempt and he was going to hurt Drew Brees as the scramble out of the pocket ensued. But the pasty guy and Solomon Wilcots were all gaga about how that RB just stuck his helmet in there and took care of the Texans defender! :HowardDeanScream: Yet they completely ignored that our guy blew up the play. LOL. This is what I can't stand about preseason: Homer analysis. I hope I don't see it/hear it when he play our home game. I don;t want to. I would hope that our commentators would be more professional than that. So we'll see.

6. Limited viewing of our plays. OK, so because this thing is homer'ized on the TV commentating side...we don't get to see the full range of Texans plays unless it's when we're getting waxed by the Saints. If we had a good play, you didn't see a replay of it very much. The production was just awful. They hardly ever did replay and analysis. Instead, we got to see in-the-booth interviews with Ricky Jackson and the LSU commentator. Lame.

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Things that were OK:

1. At least it was preseason. The only saving grace is that perhaps we were playing a bit reserved by design of the coaches. Because that did not look like the same fired-up, busy-bee defense we saw against the Cards. It's either THAT or it's the difference between the two teams' QBs. And I ain't gonna' spend time deciding which one it is. Because I fear the true answer on it. We're also playing a second game as an away game. I know it's just down the street, but maybe it played a factor. I dunno.

2. James Freaking Casey! Whoo-hoo! Did you see him absolutely SHATTER the Saints #93 so that Schaub could complete that long pass? #93 is going to smash Schaub and Casey puts his helmet and full force of his weight and speed and the right attack angle onto the KNEE of #93. You could hear the POP! of it. He is a blocking machine. I noted that last week he had a crucial block on one of our plays that was a great overall play, mainly due to James Casey's blocking. Out-freaking-standing, James Casey.

3. Kareem Jackson. I felt he stayed with his guy. He also made a very good tackle when it seemed everyone else was doggin' it out there. I did not see him get exposed or abused out there.

4. Foster. Other than his fumble, he is showing promise. He has enough power to withstand the defenses if he can get at least a little help from our oline. Everyone was losing their traction on that field, and on his fumble he attempts to balance himself by bringing his ball-carrying arm up into the air and a tackler hits that arm (and ball) and just the right time to force the fumble. I was not mad about that fumble.

That's it. This game had goats that were blown and pooches that were screwed. It was horrendous. It was a waste of me staying up until midnight to watch it as it aired on NFLN. Should have woke up this morning and watched it instead. I need the Men In Black laser light pen gadget that makes me forget it.

Feel free to add or correct anything. I am sure I missed some things.
 
GP: Very good list. I have some re-watching to do and it won't be easy. Of all the poor performances, though, I thought Kubiak had the worst:

Texans Bull Blog

(by the way, I didn't notice the Casey block... at least I have something to look forward to when I re-watch this thing!)
 
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5. TV Commentating. Once again, I understand the idea behind having a home-team, homer'ish commentating team paid to cover your team's games. You get a heavy dose of friendly analysis. What was stoopid was how they had so much to say about LSU. I know it was CST, which I infer means College Sports Network? Meaning this station that carried the game (CST) is normally dedicated to LSU/college coverage? Regardless, it was wearing me out. Mute-the-TV wearing me out. There was one play, early, when Brees had to throw the ball in the dirt quickly because (IIRC) Cushing had blown up the RB's blocking attempt and he was going to hurt Drew Brees as the scramble out of the pocket ensued. But the pasty guy and Solomon Wilcots were all gaga about how that RB just stuck his helmet in there and took care of the Texans defender! :HowardDeanScream: Yet they completely ignored that our guy blew up the play. LOL. This is what I can't stand about preseason: Homer analysis. I hope I don't see it/hear it when he play our home game. I don;t want to. I would hope that our commentators would be more professional than that. So we'll see.

6. Limited viewing of our plays. OK, so because this thing is homer'ized on the TV commentating side...we don't get to see the full range of Texans plays unless it's when we're getting waxed by the Saints. If we had a good play, you didn't see a replay of it very much. The production was just awful. They hardly ever did replay and analysis. Instead, we got to see in-the-booth interviews with Ricky Jackson and the LSU commentator. Lame.



These were the two worst things about the game.
I'm watching it on DVR and missing tons of Texans stuff because they keep cutting to the commentators...really freaking annoying.

Really there were only two things that really bothered me.

First, the defense forgot to show up-all the great things I read this week about practice then...nothing

Second, Holliday-I really had high hopes for him to be a real asset in the return game and...nothing

I'm willing to take this all with a grain of salt-preseason and all.
But they better not come out flat next week...
 
You guys may need to subscribe to preseason.nfl.com to watch the
game from the Texans' feed. I couldn't imagine watching that fiasco
from the Saints' side.
 
Garret Graham, James Casey, and Troy Nolan showed promise. Orlovsky looked better than last week, but still gives me the chills.

I want to see Jeremiah Johnson get Holliday's reps at KR so he can have a shot at winning that job. He's got the speed to break a big return, but i'd like to see him get more opportunities to show he can consistently get the team good field position.
 
All in all it was a forgettable game. If this were the movie Bull Durham I'd hope Kubiak threw all the bats into the showers and called them lollygaggers.
 
I think the atrocity we saw on the field last night was due to fatigue from camp. Call me crazy, because it obviously did not effect the Saints one bit, but i think the 3rd week of camp might have just taken a toll on them, and that was the reason for the horrible technique and execution out there, especially on the defensive side.

Maybe i'm just imagining things, but it seems the 2nd preseason game under Kubiak over the past couple of years have been nightmare-ish, maybe due to playing the Saints.

With all of this being said, i see them coming out next saturday with intensity when they play against the cowboys with the homefield advantage.
 
I think the atrocity we saw on the field last night was due to fatigue from camp. Call me crazy, because it obviously did not effect the Saints one bit, but i think the 3rd week of camp might have just taken a toll on them, and that was the reason for the horrible technique and execution out there, especially on the defensive side.

Maybe i'm just imagining things, but it seems the 2nd preseason game under Kubiak over the past couple of years have been nightmare-ish, maybe due to playing the Saints.

With all of this being said, i see them coming out next saturday with intensity when they play against the cowboys with the homefield advantage.

This looked pretty much exactly the same as our game last year against the Saints. Just manhandled at the LOS on both sides of the ball.
 
Good post GP. I worked yesterday and had to catch the replay on NFL network at midnight. Was that ever a waste of time. I stayed up until 3 am to watch the Texans get out coached and out played in every phase of the game. And yes the commentators were horrible. I know it is preseason but the Texans better wake up. Their schedule is full of playoff caliber teams.

Our defensive line was disgusting. I hope McNair pulls out 8 million to lure Schoebel out of retirement although Aaron may have watched the game and decided he made the right decision. Seriously, our dl was man handled all night long.

Trinidon Holiday is gone. No way he makes the team. The Texans have enough players that can return kicks and contribute in other areas as well.
 
Garret Graham, James Casey, and Troy Nolan showed promise. Orlovsky looked better than last week, but still gives me the chills.

I want to see Jeremiah Johnson get Holliday's reps at KR so he can have a shot at winning that job. He's got the speed to break a big return, but i'd like to see him get more opportunities to show he can consistently get the team good field position.



That's pretty much what I took from the game.

That and the fact we still can't rush the passer.

Next week should be our 'tell all' game. Third preseason game and against dullass. If they don't show up next week, don't expect things to be any different this year.

:coffee:
 
Good write up GP. I just want us to improve from every game and not go backwards. As for the game itself, the Saints offensive line is one of the best in the league and is a hell of a lot better then our defensive line.
 
Good write up GP. I just want us to improve from every game and not go backwards. As for the game itself, the Saints offensive line is one of the best in the league and is a hell of a lot better then our defensive line.

The Saints have the best OG tandem in the NFL. I'd venture to guess our DT duo doesn't rank in the top half of the league.
 
What an awful experience watching this game, short of a few players attempts the entire team looked sluggish, like they did not care.

Anyone got a link to the Pollard sideline interview?
 
I think the atrocity we saw on the field last night was due to fatigue from camp. Call me crazy, because it obviously did not effect the Saints one bit, but i think the 3rd week of camp might have just taken a toll on them, and that was the reason for the horrible technique and execution out there, especially on the defensive side.

Maybe i'm just imagining things, but it seems the 2nd preseason game under Kubiak over the past couple of years have been nightmare-ish, maybe due to playing the Saints.

With all of this being said, i see them coming out next saturday with intensity when they play against the cowboys with the homefield advantage.

Except the Saints were in their 3rd week of camp and playing their 2nd game.

And somehow they managed to shake off the training camp blues and dominate Kubes Texans in every phase of the game. Alot like last yrs Saints Texans game.
 
GP: Very good list. I have some re-watching to do and it won't be easy. Of all the poor performances, though, I thought Kubiak had the worst:

Texans Bull Blog

(by the way, I didn't notice the Casey block... at least I have something to look forward to when I re-watch this thing!)



I agree on Andre. I thought the exact same thing you did when I saw him favor the leg when he got up. GET HIM OUT OF THERE.

Agree on Orlovsky. He looks better......but he still has a long way to go.

Why did Kubiak play the ones so long? Maybe some were playing themselves out of the #1 slot. Positions are won and lost during pre-season.

I won't read too much into last nights fiasco. We know our offense is better than what we saw and our defense is still a work in progress.


Enjoy the blogs, good stuff.


:coffee:
 
If I'm not mistaken, Chase still had quite a bit of first teamers out there with him for a while...

Still not an excuse for the poor play, but Marques Colston is Marques Colston.
 
It's pre season and the games don't count. I am not going to go all batshit crazy over a bad game. The Saints are the defending champs for a reason. I want the Texans to get better and be ready on Sept 12.

These games don't mean **** in the grand scheme of things.
 
Just another classic noshow by a kubiak coached team in a game against a good team. We should all be used to failure by now

wasn't surprised though... Expect more of the same but we will hope 4 more
 
It's pre season and the games don't count. I am not going to go all batshit crazy over a bad game. The Saints are the defending champs for a reason. I want the Texans to get better and be ready on Sept 12.

These games don't mean **** in the grand scheme of things.


We see these same posts every preseason. And you know what. Every year the Texans come out playing just everyone was complaining about. Their intensity is just too up and down week to week. They have to learn to play all out 4 quarters a game every friggin game of the season including preseason.
 
The Saints have the best OG tandem in the NFL. I'd venture to guess our DT duo doesn't rank in the top half of the league.

Fun Fact:
The Saints only gave up 20 sacks last season; 4th best in the NFL. We only got 30 sacks last year (10 belonged to a gimpy Mario); 25th in the league. Our D-line was straight-up over matched.
 
Things that made me mad:

5. TV Commentating. Once again, I understand the idea behind having a home-team, homer'ish commentating team paid to cover your team's games. You get a heavy dose of friendly analysis. What was stoopid was how they had so much to say about LSU. I know it was CST, which I infer means College Sports Network? Meaning this station that carried the game (CST) is normally dedicated to LSU/college coverage? Regardless, it was wearing me out. Mute-the-TV wearing me out. There was one play, early, when Brees had to throw the ball in the dirt quickly because (IIRC) Cushing had blown up the RB's blocking attempt and he was going to hurt Drew Brees as the scramble out of the pocket ensued. But the pasty guy and Solomon Wilcots were all gaga about how that RB just stuck his helmet in there and took care of the Texans defender! :HowardDeanScream: Yet they completely ignored that our guy blew up the play. LOL. This is what I can't stand about preseason: Homer analysis. I hope I don't see it/hear it when he play our home game. I don;t want to. I would hope that our commentators would be more professional than that. So we'll see.

6. Limited viewing of our plays. OK, so because this thing is homer'ized on the TV commentating side...we don't get to see the full range of Texans plays unless it's when we're getting waxed by the Saints. If we had a good play, you didn't see a replay of it very much. The production was just awful. They hardly ever did replay and analysis. Instead, we got to see in-the-booth interviews with Ricky Jackson and the LSU commentator. Lame.

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LOL. CST stands for Cox Sports Television. It's not a college or LSU network. LSU has their own network for their games. CST is mainly for the Hornets, but they show Saints pre-season and LSU/Tulane delayed replays, and other mundane games that pretty much just kill space. CST is mainly for CP3.

That said, I'm no fan of them either. They suck!!
 
Just another classic noshow by a kubiak coached team in a game against a good team. We should all be used to failure by now

wasn't surprised though... Expect more of the same but we will hope 4 more

I hate you...

Because you're right, and normally I just hate you anyway.

Isn't the purpose of "smaller and faster" linemen to have more stamina when the bigger guys should be fatigued?

How was this week's practices more fatiguing than previous weeks? Why weren't the Saints fatigued? Why couldn't Schaub get the ball to Andre? Why did it look like only one coaching staff had studied their opponents in practice? Why do I live in my mother's basement? Why were DeMeco, Cushing, and Pollard not adjusting to the Saints' running game and stuffing the right gaps?

"Life is a mystery" --Madonna

:bag:
 
I hate you...

Because you're right, and normally I just hate you anyway.

Isn't the purpose of "smaller and faster" linemen to have more stamina when the bigger guys should be fatigued?

How was this week's practices more fatiguing than previous weeks? Why weren't the Saints fatigued? Why couldn't Schaub get the ball to Andre? Why did it look like only one coaching staff had studied their opponents in practice? Why do I live in my mother's basement? Why were DeMeco, Cushing, and Pollard not adjusting to the Saints' running game and stuffing the right gaps?

"Life is a mystery" --Madonna

:bag:

wait...
what?!
 
SIGH! Same'ole same 'ole from these Texans year in year out! They all look unmotivated, unprepared, bad breaks from injuries, MANHANDLED....again, just going tru the motions, same old broken record! Man, it may be preseason, but I don't like the feel of it!:voodoo: Kubes need to light a fire under these lazy, unmotivated players arse!
 
GP,

Must spread the rep. Thanks for the "wrap up." I was unable to watch the game after the 1st quarter. I'll have to go back and try to watch the replay. Sounds like it only got more depressing
 
SIGH! Same'ole same 'ole from these Texans year in year out! They all look unmotivated, unprepared, bad breaks from injuries, MANHANDLED....again, just going tru the motions, same old broken record! Man, it may be preseason, but I don't like the feel of it!:voodoo: Kubes need to light a fire under these lazy, unmotivated players arse!

Something tells me the Colts are gonna roll the Texans on opening day.
They have yet to bring consistent effort from one game to the next.
More of the same excuses I thought were retired a year ago, are starting
to be employed.
 
Things that made me mad:

1. Special Teams as a whole. Wait, it should be "Special Teams as a HOLE." Because that's what it was. A big, hairy, stinky hole. We couldn't down the ball on the 1 because our special teams' guys had their heads up their rears, even though it bounced nicely several times before hitting the end zone. The snap to Rackers on our first FG was high and caused him to delay his stride toward the ball, almost wrecking the attempt. Trindon Holliday is as good as cut, period. On one punt to the Saints, we had him pinned at the 3 and he gets to the 17 before being tackled--A +14-yard field position for the Saints.

2. Defense as a hole. Where were these guys? They got manhandled all game. I kept waiting for someone or a few someones to flip a switch and reverse the tide, but it never came. Their 2's were dominating our 1's, unless they had more offense-side 1's out there than I realized. Chase Daniel? Seriously? Chase Freaking Daniel? LOL. Reggie Bush ran circles around us, Mario Williams gave up on plays EARLY, and Brees and his head coach make our offense AND our defense look like Pee-Wee League out there.

3. Antonio Smith. Reggie Bush runs around the right side of his offensive line, Smith pursues the play (untouched/unblocked) down the line...tracking Bush nicely...and when Bush cuts back into the inside, Smith has BUsh in his arms and lets him go. I mean, like "Release captured butterflies go" let go. I was screaming at the TV over this. This is insufferable. Apparently, though, the entire defense was told that they had the night off from proper tackling technique.

4. Trindon Holliday. This guy better have blackmail on Kubiak if he desires to make the team. Has a great opening kick return, IIRC, and then proceeds to royally blow every attempt after that (which included a fumble because he didn't come up and get underneath the ball enough). Out comes Slaton and Jacoby Jones to perform return duties. %$#@! There is no sticking up for the guy, no matter how badly you want to. He's going to need 100% positive plays for the rest of the camp if he wants a shot to make this team. And even then, it might not be enough.

5. TV Commentating. Once again, I understand the idea behind having a home-team, homer'ish commentating team paid to cover your team's games. You get a heavy dose of friendly analysis. What was stoopid was how they had so much to say about LSU. I know it was CST, which I infer means College Sports Network? Meaning this station that carried the game (CST) is normally dedicated to LSU/college coverage? Regardless, it was wearing me out. Mute-the-TV wearing me out. There was one play, early, when Brees had to throw the ball in the dirt quickly because (IIRC) Cushing had blown up the RB's blocking attempt and he was going to hurt Drew Brees as the scramble out of the pocket ensued. But the pasty guy and Solomon Wilcots were all gaga about how that RB just stuck his helmet in there and took care of the Texans defender! :HowardDeanScream: Yet they completely ignored that our guy blew up the play. LOL. This is what I can't stand about preseason: Homer analysis. I hope I don't see it/hear it when he play our home game. I don;t want to. I would hope that our commentators would be more professional than that. So we'll see.

6. Limited viewing of our plays. OK, so because this thing is homer'ized on the TV commentating side...we don't get to see the full range of Texans plays unless it's when we're getting waxed by the Saints. If we had a good play, you didn't see a replay of it very much. The production was just awful. They hardly ever did replay and analysis. Instead, we got to see in-the-booth interviews with Ricky Jackson and the LSU commentator. Lame.

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Things that were OK:

1. At least it was preseason. The only saving grace is that perhaps we were playing a bit reserved by design of the coaches. Because that did not look like the same fired-up, busy-bee defense we saw against the Cards. It's either THAT or it's the difference between the two teams' QBs. And I ain't gonna' spend time deciding which one it is. Because I fear the true answer on it. We're also playing a second game as an away game. I know it's just down the street, but maybe it played a factor. I dunno.

2. James Freaking Casey! Whoo-hoo! Did you see him absolutely SHATTER the Saints #93 so that Schaub could complete that long pass? #93 is going to smash Schaub and Casey puts his helmet and full force of his weight and speed and the right attack angle onto the KNEE of #93. You could hear the POP! of it. He is a blocking machine. I noted that last week he had a crucial block on one of our plays that was a great overall play, mainly due to James Casey's blocking. Out-freaking-standing, James Casey.

3. Kareem Jackson. I felt he stayed with his guy. He also made a very good tackle when it seemed everyone else was doggin' it out there. I did not see him get exposed or abused out there.

4. Foster. Other than his fumble, he is showing promise. He has enough power to withstand the defenses if he can get at least a little help from our oline. Everyone was losing their traction on that field, and on his fumble he attempts to balance himself by bringing his ball-carrying arm up into the air and a tackler hits that arm (and ball) and just the right time to force the fumble. I was not mad about that fumble.

That's it. This game had goats that were blown and pooches that were screwed. It was horrendous. It was a waste of me staying up until midnight to watch it as it aired on NFLN. Should have woke up this morning and watched it instead. I need the Men In Black laser light pen gadget that makes me forget it.

Feel free to add or correct anything. I am sure I missed some things.

I think CST stands for Cajuns Suck at Television. Can they just call the game down the middle. I thought they were going to go down on the field and make out with Reggie. Although he did look like a real NFL RB against the Defense which doesn't bode well..........

Antonio Smith: Wow he looked the Defensive version of Chris Meyers. He was blown up on like every play.

Defense: There was no intensity. They looked like they were just there to go thru the motions. Hopefully we can chalk this up to them bieng tired from camp and Preseason really doesn't matter, but I don't like that kind of attitude.

Offesnse: Well the offense looked like last year. Fumbles, big plays, and hot and cold. I suspect if they played 4 quarters they would have made it interesting to watch.

I'm on the West Coast and only had to stay up until 10PM, and it wasn't worth it.
 
GP,

Must spread the rep. Thanks for the "wrap up." I was unable to watch the game after the 1st quarter. I'll have to go back and try to watch the replay. Sounds like it only got more depressing

Oh, did it ever.

Midnight is NOT the time to try and tolerate bad Texans football. And I sat there until 2 a.m. trying to find a way to finish eating that crap sandwich that was put before me. Every coach and player on the Texans should have been made to watch the entire game at midnight, just like I did. They should have had to stay up until 3 a.m. and soak it all in. Turds.

I resorted to trying to single out at least 1 out of the 11 guys on the field, at any given moment, who was putting forth an honest effort. And let me tell you, it became about as futile of an attempt as trying to Find Waldo while looking through your grandad's eyeglasses. Headache-inducing.

I will NOT re-watch this game. It has been erased, and Kubiak will be erased if his team plays its same old ways this season. The McNair extension to Kubiak was to retain KUBIAK if he so choose to retain him...not as a locked-down guarantee that the guy will be here for the duration of the extended contract. I hope our owner will pull the ripcord if Kubiak's team cannot play consistent football. I can tolerate other teams and other teams' players finding a superior way and maybe even LUCKING their way to a win over us. But to be manhandled at all phases of the game, even against the Saints, is the sort of humiliation that needs to end for Texans fans.

We're at a point where the talent level is THERE. Enough to suffice, so to say. No team will ever be 100% stacked at each position. That's when strategy and coaching take the team over the top.

And that's where Kubiak is, IMO. Either he can drag them over the finish line, or he's just a great builder but without the skill sets to actually find a way to win games as they occur in real time and in real space.

Regular Season Game 1 is the only game of the year. It has to be. There can exist NO other game in the minds of the team's coaches and players. But, we see that they didn't think that way vs. Jets last year. No, apparently the Jets found a way to do this but not the Texans. Not at home, and not against a rookie QB and a rookie head coach.

At least I will get to see this team play Dallas next weekend on LIVE TV and not on delay at midnight. I'm tired, I'm angry, and etc. etc.
 
The defense was man-handled most of the game, but you have to understand that you are not going to keep points off the board against this team when you can't keep their offense off the field. Granted alot of that had to do with the defense, but just to recap.

The saints score on a lengthy opening drive, collectively running the ball down the Texans throats, inexcusable,but now it's the Texans turn on offense. A couple of minor gains from foster and an incomplete pass forces a three and out. Saints offense back on the field, but this time the Texans actually halt the drive around mid field, saints forced to punt. Well you know the story carless turnover and we give them the ball back right around our 13 yd line, pretty much setting up the defense to fail. Not making excusesfor the performance of the defense, way too many missed tackles, and it seemed like no one could shed their blocker. But our defense didn't get much help early on in keeping their offense off the field,
 
Excellent post GP. The Texans are NOT one of teams that can afford
to blow off preseason. What have they done before? How do
they fare in the early-to-mid part of the season where division
titles and playoff spots are being fought for? Here we go:

2007: 5-7
2008: 5-7
2009: (Yes. You've guessed it...) 5-7


Sean Payton took over a woeful Saints team, in 2006, and led
them through catastrophe to a Superbowl Title. All we've gotten
from Kubiak in the same amount of time is frustration and
excuses.

I swore to keep the soap off for the first twelve games of 2010,
but it's getting mighty hard to do so.
 
What a piss poor effort on both sides of the football and I will say it is all but certain Holladay is done. You may think ah, well the Saints are the Superbowl champs but that is a team the Texans are going to have to win against if they want to make any head way in the AFC South. There is zero postives to take away from the game last night. Everyone said after last week that they are not worried because some of the third and fourth stringers blew the stinking game well, I would like to know what the story is today after the 1ns and 2 both looked uninspired and unprepared. You and me would have given a 1,000 percent better effort than the Texans gave last night but we are not the ones who are paid to play and know how to do their job they are. But we might as well be the ones playing after that performence last night. We as a whole might not be worried just yet but I sure am. You can call this an overeaction if you want to that is fine but then you'd also be saying Gary was too last night because he was hot after that pee wee game and rightfully so IMO. This is going on nine seasons already and last season right or wrong we blamed Kris Brown but I have a feeling we all should be asking what will be the reason once again this season. I hope I am wrong but I am not sorry for the rant because everytime that game crosses my mind not just because they lost but because they were flat out taken to school and their text books were even opened up for them my face cringes and I just want to ball up in the corner in cry my eyes out but men don't do that sort of thing. So I'll just have to get over the loss and hope they figure things out by next week because they are the pros not me. /End rant.
 
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All in all it was a forgettable game. If this were the movie Bull Durham I'd hope Kubiak threw all the bats into the showers and called them lollygaggers.

- You know what that makes you? Larry!
- Lolligaggers!
- Lolligaggers.
 
:goodpost: GP like your sense of humor.

FYI, The Saints are Super Bowl Champions, their core group remains intact, not to mention its tough as hell for anybody to beat them in New Orleans & they're healthy.
 
Dreessen had a couple of fine downfield receptions. How was his overall play?

He was essentially our offense. He was getting open and down the field for many deep passes, which were throw his way and he caught them. If Owen Daniels cannot make it, I think we'll be fairly OK at TE.

The one TD run that Foster had, it looked like the Saints Defense conceded the score much like you would in a scrimmage. Sure, he was through the seam in the middle of the line of scrimmage, but no Saints defender tried to tackle him. It was a gimmee.
 
i wonder how different things would have been if jj returned that punt and not holliday. not saying anything just saying.
 
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to GP again.

How many people do I have to spread it to? I don't even remember repping GP before.

(That felt weird to type. It sounds like I'm talking about herpes or something.)
 
It's pre season and the games don't count. I am not going to go all batshit crazy over a bad game. The Saints are the defending champs for a reason. I want the Texans to get better and be ready on Sept 12.

These games don't mean **** in the grand scheme of things.

this. People are really downplaying the fact that this was the SB champs playing at home...which has really become one of the toughest places to play in the last couple of years. No one in the league has been able to stop that offense & when you give them extra possessions inside the red zone (mr. holiday i'm talking to you) you're only making that much harder to stop them. After NO went up 14-0, our 1's answered back with a long drive of their own & the score is only 7-7. Sure the 1's on defense didn't look like it was on point, but they played well enough to keep the team in it & they were probably gassed anyway..

Calm down people....it really is just preseason & winning these games will have 0 impact on the regular season..signed detroit for the last 2 years. 7-1 in the preseason for those 2 years but only won a combined 2 regular season games..We also know about how the colts rountinely dog the preseason only to run through the regular season.
 
this. People are really downplaying the fact that this was the SB champs playing at home...which has really become one of the toughest places to play in the last couple of years. No one in the league has been able to stop that offense & when you give them extra possessions inside the red zone (mr. holiday i'm talking to you) you're only making that much harder to stop them. After NO went up 14-0, our 1's answered back with a long drive of their own & the score is only 7-7. Sure the 1's on defense didn't look like it was on point, but they played well enough to keep the team in it & they were probably gassed anyway..

Calm down people....it really is just preseason & winning these games will have 0 impact on the regular season..signed detroit for the last 2 years. 7-1 in the preseason for those 2 years but only won a combined 2 regular season games..We also know about how the colts rountinely dog the preseason only to run through the regular season.

These must be the same people that were downplaying how weak an opponent the Cardinals really were.

And, we have never to date been or in the least bit performed like the Colts.
 
No one is disputing that the pre-season doesn't mean anything.

But it is an undeniable indicator of the state of the team, which fits a historical pattern that takes us down a road we've been down before.
 
These must be the same people that were downplaying how weak an opponent the Cardinals really were.

And, we have never to date been or in the least bit performed like the Colts.

So? what does that have to with anything? Our preseason games count more than the colts' do? Performing in the regular season is what has ultimately gotten them to where they're at & I highly doubt that any of them look / have looked back on any preseason game over the last couple of years & said "yep, if we'd just done this or that in this preseason game, we'd be champs.." Truthfully i doubt any team does that regardless of their position b/c there are simply too many other things. Let's look at it for what it really is, many of you are essentially about ready to blow it all up over 1 half of a meaningless game. Doesn't that seem ridiculous to you?

The overall point i'm trying to make is that it wasn't all good in the Arizona game & it ain't all bad in the NO game....we are likely somewhere between the 2.
 
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