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Hello (Season Opener Prediction Thread)

Buffalo_Bills

Practice Squad
Hello, I would just like to see your predictions for the season opener. Assuming we still have Henry and all the rosters are the same as they are right now.
 
24-10 Houston wins. Rookie QB against a faster texans defense and 2nd year for the Texans OL to be playing together will all add up to a Texans win.
 

CAbills

Noob
texanfan2002114 said:
24-10 Houston wins. Rookie QB against a faster texans defense and 2nd year for the Texans OL to be playing together will all add up to a Texans win.
I got to see proof that your defense is any better than it was last year especially your pash rush. Yikes!

Anyways right now I dont want to predict, I want to see Losman in training camp and preseason and get a good feel about it. Either way it will be a close game.
 

TexanFan881

All Pro
I think the Bills do have a better team then last year, but Losman will definately need to step up to the plate to even keep up with us. I say we win 20-7. The Bills defense plays good, but the Texans defense shuts down Losman. Our offense does decent, but our offensive line has little improvement from last year.
 
CAbills said:
I got to see proof that your defense is any better than it was last year especially your pash rush. Yikes!

Anyways right now I dont want to predict, I want to see Losman in training camp and preseason and get a good feel about it. Either way it will be a close game.

Didn't the Texans beat the Bills a couple of years ago with that defense and that pass rush your talking about? The Texans defense has gotten younger and FASTER and will have a better pass rush. You better tell Losman to start watching out for PEEK!!

Also the Texans had to use their back up QB because Carr got hurt in that game. I stick with my pick and number!!
 

Grid

All Pro
16 - 13 Texans

Our secondary is going to make it very tough on Losman, but the Bills running game is very good. McGahee will keep the Bills in business, but there is only so much he can do.

Our offense is gonna be very good next year, but the Bills defense is very good as well. In the end I dont think they will be able to stop us from taking the lead though.

Close games.. lots of 3 pointers...but the Texans take it in the end.
 

Vinny

shiny happy fan
Bills 27
Texans 24

Texans have one of the worst run defenses in the NFL until proven otherwise. No pass rush either. The Bills have a dominant running game and a dominant defense. 0-1 for the good guys
 
31-10 Texans

McGahee gets 130ish yds and a TD and ya'll (that's you all) kick a FG
Losman gets sacked 3 times, picked once for a returned TD by P-Buch
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D. Davis gets 180 total yds (120 rush / 60 rec) and a TD
D.Carr gets sacked 3 times, no pix, 2 TD's
AJ scores both TD's and has 100+ yds
K. Brown gets a FG

Score will actually be 21-10 @ half

Normally I wouldn't do this but you asked

By the way, welcome to the MB's
 

beerlover

Hall of Fame
GEEZ, lets wait till training camp at least, prefeer after pre-season then the week before we can put our money where our words are printed. Buffalo is a great city with some of the best fans in the NFL & the Bills have a quality, young up & coming product.

should be a great day for a football game & the best team wins :highfive:

thats my :twocents:
 

Hervoyel

BUENO!
To soon. I believe the Texans can win the game and that they will but it's far too soon to try and predict a score. I'll talk about this the week before the game.
 

CAbills

Noob
texanfan2002114 said:
Didn't the Texans beat the Bills a couple of years ago with that defense and that pass rush your talking about? The Texans defense has gotten younger and FASTER and will have a better pass rush.
Your basing an argument on something you guys did "a couple years ago?"
 

Carr Bombed

Hall of Fame
Vinny said:
Bills 27
Texans 24

Texans have one of the worst run defenses in the NFL until proven otherwise. No pass rush either. The Bills have a dominant running game and a dominant defense. 0-1 for the good guys
The Texans run defense was ranked 13th ovrl. It certainly isn't cream of the crop, but it wasn't one of the worst in the league, little above avg. Although I still think Willis M. will have a big game against us do to the lack of continuity in the front 7 since it'll be the 1st game of the season.

Everybody kinda rusty and has a little nerves. Texans offense settles down right before the half

Texans 17
Bills 10
 

Tailgate

Fall of Hame
CAbills said:
Your basing an argument on something you guys did "a couple years ago?"
I am just asking.. but is your defense better, worse, or about the same as a couple of years ago? Maybe Texanfan200 can go from there??
 

Vinny

shiny happy fan
Carr Bomb said:
The Texans run defense was ranked 13th ovrl. It certainly isn't cream of the crop, but it wasn't one of the worst in the league, little above avg.
Ok, not worst, but we gave up 4.4 ypc and only Tennessee, Kansas City and Indianapolis was worse in the AFC, and we were 22nd in the NFL overall when it came to defending yards per rushing attempt.
 

Carr Bombed

Hall of Fame
Man Vinny, didn't know you were a night owl like me.

Anyways your probably right. I don't know how accurate my information is anyway. Got it off some link on the JAGS board :)
 

texansfan1974

Waterboy
I like the Texans in this one. Remember we are 2 and 1 in openers. So I think this one is a blow out. My thoughts are 31 to 17 Houston. :drool:
 
CAbills said:
Your basing an argument on something you guys did "a couple years ago?"

Yea because 2 years ago the Texans OL was just freakin horrible and the defense was older and slower than it will be this year and the Texans played with back up QB and still beat the Bills in cold weather.
 

OzzO

.. and then?
Okay... so CABills wants our prediction... then doesn't want to post his. Then we throw out the arguement we've gotten better on defense and he wants proof, then we turn around and post what happened last time to which the reply is "base off 2 years ago?".

CABills... whatcha looking for? We'll stick ya with the horns - is that what you need to hear? :coolb:
 

infantrycak

Hall of Fame
CAbills said:
I got to see proof that your defense is any better than it was last year especially your pash rush. Yikes!
That Yikes! defense had the longest streak for not allowing a TD last year starting with denying the Colts for 3 quarters. Keep in mind the stats are a little deceptive as well since we played 6 games against the top 5 offenses in the league last year and just 2 against the bottom 5 offenses.
 

TheOgre

All Pro
Vinny said:
Bills 27
Texans 24

Texans have one of the worst run defenses in the NFL until proven otherwise. No pass rush either. The Bills have a dominant running game and a dominant defense. 0-1 for the good guys
VINNY'S REPORT CARD FOR THIS POST:
Homerism 101 D (he didn't predict a blowout loss)
Objective Fan 414 A+
 

infantrycak

Hall of Fame
Vinny said:
The Bills have a dominant running game and a dominant defense.
I'll give you the good (top 10 scoring D) defense, but dominant running game? Stats don't tell the whole story, but...

Houston 481 attempts, 1882 yds, 3.9 ypc, 117.6 ypg, 16 TD's, 103 1st downs
Buffalo 483 attempts, 1874 yds, 3.9 ypc, 117.1 ypg, 15 TD's, 102 FD's

I've never heard anyone describe our running game as dominant as a matter of fact somewhere I have heard people say it is a running game no one is scared of. I'd go more with Texans good (and the potential to be really good) and Bills really good.
 

Vinny

shiny happy fan
I always talk about us being one of the better run blocking teams in the NFL despite the moans from this message board about our offense, so that point is more for the gallery. Good stats though. Shows how good we really are when it comes to running the football.
 

TheOgre

All Pro
Our line has been put together primarily with run blocking in mind. I cannot think of a single starting lineman that is a better pass-blocker than run-blocker. As a consequence, we have a line that has good run blockers, but average to poor pass blockers. Our protection schemes and Carr's propensity to hold onto the ball too long, further exaggerate the issue. When you give up an average of about 50 sacks a year over the course of 3 years, it throws out a stat that the media and fans focus upon. It has to change if we want to get better. However, I am not convinced that the talent is the only issue with our pass protection.
 

texasguy346

Mod Squad
Hervoyel said:
To soon. I believe the Texans can win the game and that they will but it's far too soon to try and predict a score. I'll talk about this the week before the game.
I'm with Herv on this one. I've got to see how healthy we are after TC and the Preseason. I'll have a much better idea what the final score will be after all that.
 

Lucky

Ride, Captain, Ride!
Staff member
A lot of fans say they need to see the teams through preseason to get a feel for what will happen during the season. And that's true to a point. But, some teams hold back during preseason, not revealing too much of their hand. Others will place an emphasis on winning in the preseason in order to create momentum and dispel a losing atmosphere. Preseason can be very misleading. So, why not take a guess now?

I think the Buffalo game could be very important to the Texans playoff chances in '05. They're one of the teams I see battling the Texans for a wildcard spot going into the final week. And head-to-head wins are the 1st tiebreaker. The Bills finished last season like gangbusters (not sure what that means) going 8-2 with losses to the Pats & Steelers. During a 6 game winning streak, the Bills averaged 38 ppg. Unreal. But in the offseason, the Bills decided it was a good time to dump their starting QB & and not pursue their starting LT. Is it back to square 1 (when the Bills averaged 13 ppg the 1st 6 games of '04) or do the Bills pickup right where they left off?

Maybe the Bills defense & special teams are good enough to carry the offense for a while. Buffalo scored 10 TDs on returns last year & forced 44 turnovers (#2 in the NFL) helping greatly the offense's starting field position. Can the Bills keep up that pace? Buffalo won't have the fortune of lining up across QBs such as Cody Pickett, Jon Kitna, Jay Fiedler, Josh McCown, or his brother Luke as they did in '04. And they'll be without one of the premier run stuffing DTs with the loss of Pat Williams to the Vikes.

I think this will be a close, low scoring game with both teams trying to minimize mistakes. That bodes well for the Texans, as the 1st year starter Losman is more likely to err early in the season. I'll take the Texans 19-16. Oh, and I reserve the right to change my mind over the next 10 weeks. And I probably will because of something I see in preseason (when will I learn?).
 

texasguy346

Mod Squad
My main concern isn't with how they perform, but moreso with how healthy we make it out of the preseason. If we go 0-4 in the preseason I'll still be happy as long as we come out relatively injury free.
 

Lucky

Ride, Captain, Ride!
Staff member
texasguy346 said:
My main concern isn't with how they perform, but moreso with how healthy we make it out of the preseason. If we go 0-4 in the preseason I'll still be happy as long as we come out relatively injury free.
The team could come out of the preseason injury free, yet have a catastrophic injury in the 1st quarter of the Bills game. Or it could happen to the Bills. Don't see why waiting for the preseason to finish is necessary to predict a single game. :idonno:
 

Buffalo_Bills

Practice Squad
I wanted the prediction not Cabills

JP is better than you all think. He is good enough that we sacked Bledsoe, our defense says he can pick them apart, and just recently Jabari Greer compared him to steve young. Of course he will have a little learning curve, but hes been in the system for a year already. Plus last year lee evans did fine with a tiny learning curve, so i think JP can. I think he had a 60% or up completion percentage at tulane. We have added speed at WR and QB, and last year speed was our biggest problem, o-line cant protect forever, this year they wont have too.

Buffalo Wins 21-17
 

texasguy346

Mod Squad
Rookie QBs will make mistakes. It's inevitable. I, for one, think that Losman will develop into a very good QB. That doesn't mean he's going to be clicking on all cylinders coming out of the gate though. I believe our secondary will be very good this season. The big question mark will be the pass rush. Peek getting the starting nod should help out alot, and we'll see if more speed on defense translates to a better pass rush. If all goes well then our D could force JP into some errant throws, and maybe a couple turnovers. Our offense is looking like it should be improved from last season. We have a talented group of WRs led by AJ, and a good set of RBs headed up by DD. I think it will be a tough game for both teams. As for the Bills, I've stated before that the Bills have a very talented team on both sides of the ball, and Losman's performance will likely be the deciding factor in whether the Bills win or lose. A young QBs learning curve is tremendous, and unlike any other position on the field. Many point to Big Ben as the exception to the rule, but keep in mind that guys like him are rare. I think JP will have a good year, but I doubt he'll walk away with NFL OROY. He's got alot of tools in place to succeed, but it'll be up to him to do so. As far as the Steve Young comparison keep in mind that Young started out with the Bucs, and his star didn't shine quite as bright early on as it did when he moved on to the 49ers.
 
Buffalo_Bills said:
I wanted the prediction not Cabills

JP is better than you all think. He is good enough that we sacked Bledsoe, our defense says he can pick them apart, and just recently Jabari Greer compared him to steve young. Of course he will have a little learning curve, but hes been in the system for a year already. Plus last year lee evans did fine with a tiny learning curve, so i think JP can. I think he had a 60% or up completion percentage at tulane. We have added speed at WR and QB, and last year speed was our biggest problem, o-line cant protect forever, this year they wont have too.

Buffalo Wins 21-17
If Losman can pick your defense apart then what do you think Carr will do to them? Don't forget Carr did complete over 60% of his passes and throw for over 3500 yards last year and was second behind Vick as leading QB's in rushing yards and that was with an OL that was together one year with injuries on it.

Texans 24-10!!
 

CAbills

Noob
A4toZ said:
Okay... so CABills wants our prediction... then doesn't want to post his. Then we throw out the arguement we've gotten better on defense and he wants proof, then we turn around and post what happened last time to which the reply is "base off 2 years ago?".
I am looking for respones. Saying you beat us in 2003 10-12 means nothing to me. Congrats on the win. It was a totally different team for the both of us so I dont see how that has any relevance on anything?

I dont know want to post my prediction because we haven't even started training camp who knows how Losman will perform, injured, etc. Many things can happen in the next two months, I think it is a little premature to predicting wins and losses right now. But in the name of "fun" I predict a bills win 13-10.

How has your defense improved? The pick up of Buchanon was a big FA signing but he was an on and off guy in Oakland. I have seen a ton of Oakland games over the last couple years being from California. Your pash rush was not great to put it nicely and I didnt see anything you did this offseason to improve it. Maybe I am wrong though thats what I am asking, not we are going to win 31-7 because I am a homer.

Any unintelligent fan can predict a score and a W for their team, EVEN raider fans. So I was trying to get an opinion on what makes you think you have the better team (not saying what is right or wrong) but going on things like 2003 scores brings a weak argument. :highfive:

**EDIT** Never once have a I heard our defense says thats Losman can pick them apart?
 

CAbills

Noob
texasguy346 said:
As far as the Steve Young comparison keep in mind that Young started out with the Bucs, and his star didn't shine quite as bright early on as it did when he moved on to the 49ers.
Also keep in mind the guy who said that, Jabari Greer was an UDFA last year, I think he is just happy to be on the team. Although he did suprisingly well for us last year, the Bills seem to have a lot of luck in drafting players for our secondary, Wire aside.
 

Vinny

shiny happy fan
All I know is we as a fan base are discouting a rookie QB in his first start when we had one ourselves when we beat the Cowboys in our first game ever. Short memories?
 

CAbills

Noob
texasguy346 said:
Donahoe is one of the better GMs in the business. You guys definately have a top quality front office.
You would be SURPRISED on how many buffalo fans think differently.
 

texasguy346

Mod Squad
CAbills said:
You would be SURPRISED on how many buffalo fans think differently.
Probably not as much as you'd think. We have plenty of people here who think Charlie Casserly is the worst GM ever, and I consider him to be a pretty darn good one. He always keeps us on our toes thats for sure.
 

BillsFan

Practice Squad
texasguy346 said:
Rookie QBs will make mistakes. A young QBs learning curve is tremendous, and unlike any other position on the field. I think JP will have a good year, but I doubt he'll walk away with NFL OROY.
JP is NOT a rookie!!!!!!!!! he's a 2nd year guy. He's had a whole year to learn the offense.

The biggest problem that rookie QBs complain about is trying to understand the pro-game and playbook. JP so far has not only mastered the Bills playbook, he was correcting a coach during mini-camp.

i don't think JP will make much of a difference. I doubt Mularky will let him throw the ball more than 10 times.

expect Willis Mcgahee to reach 30+ carries and 150yds rushing.


Bills 17 Texans 9

:)
 

Tedc

Hardheaded
Vinny said:
All I know is we as a fan base are discouting a rookie QB in his first start when we had one ourselves when we beat the Cowboys in our first game ever. Short memories?
That is an oddity in the history of the NFL. Don't bet the house on a rookie QB in his first game.
 

ATX

Hall of Fame
Buffalo_Bills said:
I wanted the prediction not Cabills

JP is better than you all think. He is good enough that we sacked Bledsoe, our defense says he can pick them apart, and just recently Jabari Greer compared him to steve young. Of course he will have a little learning curve, but hes been in the system for a year already. Plus last year lee evans did fine with a tiny learning curve, so i think JP can. I think he had a 60% or up completion percentage at tulane. We have added speed at WR and QB, and last year speed was our biggest problem, o-line cant protect forever, this year they wont have too.

Buffalo Wins 21-17
How do you know JP is better than you think? have you talked to the defense too? he's never played a game in the nfl. the release of bledsoe doesn't mean losman will be better by any meansm, especially his first nfl game. 60 percent at tulane means nothing in the nfl. I'm sure most QBs drafted are 60 something percent or better in college. alot in tougher divisions and schedules too. As far as jabari greer, i have no idea who this guy is, and alot of people compare current QBs to former QBs. its not new and the idea that losman is gonna come right out and succeed is not in his odds. losing bledsoe is gonna mean more turnovers at the QB position, i'd bet the house on that. if losman doesn't throw an interception, there's a good chance you win. the texans are returning most likely all 11 offensive starters from last year, so i have to give the offensive edge to the texans, but i give the bills a defensive edge. i just think the offensive edge will be greater than the defensive edge, so i take the texans in this game 24-13.
 

ATX

Hall of Fame
BillsFan said:
JP is NOT a rookie!!!!!!!!! he's a 2nd year guy. He's had a whole year to learn the offense.

The biggest problem that rookie QBs complain about is trying to understand the pro-game and playbook. JP so far has not only mastered the Bills playbook, he was correcting a coach during mini-camp.

i don't think JP will make much of a difference. I doubt Mularky will let him throw the ball more than 10 times.

expect Willis Mcgahee to reach 30+ carries and 150yds rushing.


Bills 17 Texans 9

:)
So JP mastered the playbook already? must be a freaking genius, especially since he's correcting coaches and all, those dumb coaches, don't know a thing about football. you also stated correctly that JP isn't a rookie, true, but thats like saying he's not a freshman, he's a redshirt freshman. either way, he's never played in a nfl regular season game. the fact remains that losman is not bledsoe. he's gonna throw more picks. i also find it funny how mr. genius has mastered the playbook, but you still don't think he's gonna throw more than 10 times. seems like if he had it mastered, he'd be throwing alot more.
 

Lucky

Ride, Captain, Ride!
Staff member
atxcoolguy said:
...you also stated correctly that JP isn't a rookie, true, but thats like saying he's not a freshman, he's a redshirt freshman. either way, he's never played in a nfl regular season game...
Losman mopped up for Bledsoe in 3 games last season. JP went 3-5 for 32 yards with a int & a fumble. Losman only played in 2 preseason games as a rookie prior to breaking his leg in camp. JP had a career pass completion % at Tulane of just under 58%. Not 60% as suggested. Losman (pronounced LOSS-men) was a honor roll student at Tulane, so memorizing a NFL playbook should be a piece of cake for him. Throw in the fact that Losman is a plus athlete as a QB and the Bills have quite the prospect, though they gave up a lot to draft him. The cowgirls used the Bills picks to select Julius Jones & Marcus Spears. Regardless of what David Carr did in his 1st game at the starter, Losman should follow the normal curve of a young QB and get better as the season moves along. I like the Texans chances against JP & the Bills on opening day.
 

Vinny

shiny happy fan
Lucky said:
Losman (pronounced LOSS-men) was a honor roll student at Tulane, so memorizing a NFL playbook should be a piece of cake for him. Throw in the fact that Losman is a plus athlete as a QB and the Bills have quite the prospect, though they gave up a lot to draft him.
lol: funny
 

Wolf

100% Texan
Unless the Texans take the Astro's approach(astros seem to lose to every MLB pitcher that is making his debut against the astros) ..they lose...

eventhough Lossman isn't a rookie, he is considered a "rookie" due to lack of game time (i.e. drew Henson) experience. I personally think this will be a low scoring game due to buffalo's defense is pretty tough and our ability to hopefully confuse Lossman.
10-7 or 13-7 ish Texans :cool:
 
CAbills said:
How has your defense improved? The pick up of Buchanon was a big FA signing but he was an on and off guy in Oakland. I have seen a ton of Oakland games over the last couple years being from California. Your pash rush was not great to put it nicely and I didnt see anything you did this offseason to improve it. Maybe I am wrong though thats what I am asking, not we are going to win 31-7 because I am a homer.



**EDIT** Never once have a I heard our defense says thats Losman can pick them apart?
k where do i start....P-buch IMHO will have a breakout year this year under secondary coach Hoke, and with a change of scenery. we added to our pass rush with hopefully peek winning the starting position, obviously you havent watched him play and plus adding younger and faster players to the D, not to forget that our 1st pick in the draft went to considered the top right DT coming outa college, so you wanted proof theirs your proof take it or just make up some silly argument how you think thats not improving not only our *** rush but our whole D. :goodnight
 
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