Death to Google Ads! Texans Talk Tip Jar! 🍺😎👍
Thanks for your support!

9-7 Does Not Matter?

gary

gary

Hall of Fame
I have seen a few posters post that thought. I mean just come on already it's the difference between a winning season or a .500 season. That my friends is a huge difference to any real Texans fan. A winning record is a first things first type of deal and then the playoffs. Has the Texans play lowered our standers that much that some of us are now blowing off a winning season to just another average season? I guess it has for some folks around here geez, but surely it hasn't for me. The last two seasons have ended in .500 fashtion for this team and it has been a long time coming since the Texans have had their best shot at a winning season as we well know and this is it. Besides the playoffs a winning season is very important to every NFL team it was what I was wanting to see from the Texans this season as everything bulids upon that factor going into next season IMO. A postive note is much better going into next season rather than just an average note regardless of wether or not everything falls into place on Sunday and they do reach the playoffs or not if you know what I mean. I do not have tickets for the game on Sunday but have been invited to join some tailgate groups aroud the stadium in the the biggest badest tailgating city the NFL has and barring no rain I plan on doing so. I will still either hear or watch the game somewhare outside the stadium hopefully and I'd like to see those who going get there early scream and rock the house for the first single Teaxans winning season ever and if everything goes right the freaking playoffs regardless of my stance on the HC and what not I know I'll be loud and proud come this Sunday and hope all Texans fans are. A lot of thought went into this post so I hope you enjoy it.
 
Last edited:
I want 9-7 whether we go to the playoffs or not. I want the Texans to get used to being winners.
 
Gary, I always enjoy your post!! I just try to stay positive. A 9-7 season is what I predicted the beginning of the season, and to me that is progress, and progress is a positive thing. Sign up the vets we have that are worth keeping, have another positive draft, and solidify a couple weak holes, and we SHOULD be ready to rock the NFL next year. I'm saddened by the "almost" games we lost, but, that is hindsight, over and done with, and I'm ready to move forward.

I will be there Sunday, haven't missed a home game yet, and I'll do some more damage to my vocal cords. Eight years of Bullpen fandom has taken it's toll on my voice, as well as my old body. lol BUT, I'll be there doing my part to rock Reliant and help our boys make this a winning season. As for the playoffs, I don't even think about that. If it happens GREAT, if not, then so be it. I'll just get ready for next year. I'm sincerely thankful, and very happy, I have a hometown football team to root for. THey are MINE, win, lose, or draw, and that my dear friend, is what being a fan is all about.

Hope to see ya Sunday!!
 
Oh no. I sense a 25-page thread about our head coach coming. I'm burned out on that discussion.

Just for the record: yes, 9-7 is important. I just think some of us don't want to get our hopes up too high. If it happens, great. If not, that's great, too, because we weren't expecting it.

Yep, that's what this team has done to us.
 
This fanbase should be finished hoping the team tanks games for better draft position. We've got talent and an ability to find impact players in the middle of the 1st round. Its time we hope to WIN as much as possible every season.

Not to mention we're still in the freaking playoff hunt!!! We go 9-7 and we not only have our first winning season but we will still be in the hunt until 2 out of 3 teams ahead of us win their games. If that doesn't happen then we get into the playoffs with a 9-7 record... I'd say that matters A LOT!!!
 
houstonspartan said:
Oh no. I sense a 25-page thread about our head coach coming. I'm burned out on that discussion.

Just for the record: yes, 9-7 is important. I just think some of us don't want to get our hopes up too high. If it happens, great. If not, that's great, too, because we weren't expecting it.

Yep, that's what this team has done to us.
Click to expand...
Do not exspect it that's fine but do not say there isn't any difference between an 8-8 season and a winning season when there is.
 
SheTexan said:
Gary, I always enjoy your post!! I just try to stay positive. A 9-7 season is what I predicted the beginning of the season, and to me that is progress, and progress is a positive thing. Sign up the vets we have that are worth keeping, have another positive draft, and solidify a couple weak holes, and we SHOULD be ready to rock the NFL next year. I'm saddened by the "almost" games we lost, but, that is hindsight, over and done with, and I'm ready to move forward.

I will be there Sunday, haven't missed a home game yet, and I'll do some more damage to my vocal cords. Eight years of Bullpen fandom has taken it's toll on my voice, as well as my old body. lol BUT, I'll be there doing my part to rock Reliant and help our boys make this a winning season. As for the playoffs, I don't even think about that. If it happens GREAT, if not, then so be it. I'll just get ready for next year. I'm sincerely thankful, and very happy, I have a hometown football team to root for. THey are MINE, win, lose, or draw, and that my dear friend, is what being a fan is all about.

Hope to see ya Sunday!!
Click to expand...

Unleash the Grumpy Ole Woman!!
:shetexan:
 
Thorn said:
I want 9-7 whether we go to the playoffs or not. I want the Texans to get used to being winners.
Click to expand...

My thoughts exactly. :goodpost: :clap:

Lots of folks have disparaged a 9-7 record around here, but right now there are five 8-7 AFC teams that are competing for two wildcard spots. Both of those spots will most likely be taken by 9-7 teams. That - and the winning record thing - is the difference between 9-7 and 8-8.
 
ummmmm do to my 0-2 record when attending games this year...the fans here threatened to flatten my tires if i got tickets....


Hey I was 2-0 last year.

I am going to get BWW and eat it I am 4-0 when eating at or getting them and taking home.
Wife is getting told to go away..... she is not going to exist that day. She is pissed because she is now a football widow.
 
gary said:
Do not exspect it that's fine but do not say there isn't any difference between an 8-8 season and a winning season when there is.
Click to expand...

I think maybe if we beat the real Patriots on sunday we can be happy for a winning season but if our first winning season comes from the Patriots playing their 2nd and 3rd stringers it would be kind of blah. I don't want anything handed to us. I want them to play their starters for 4 quarters and the Texans go out and earn their first winning season. That my fellow fans is something we could brag about.
 
bckey said:
I think maybe if we beat the real Patriots on sunday we can be happy for a winning season but if our first winning season comes from the Patriots playing their 2nd and 3rd stringers it would be kind of blah. I don't want anything handed to us. I want them to play their starters for 4 quarters and the Texans go out and earn their first winning season. That my fellow fans is something we could brag about.
Click to expand...
I am right there with you bro but if they choose not to play their starter it would not be the Texans fault.
 
SheTexan said:
Gary, I always enjoy your post!! I just try to stay positive. A 9-7 season is what I predicted the beginning of the season, and to me that is progress, and progress is a positive thing. Sign up the vets we have that are worth keeping, have another positive draft, and solidify a couple weak holes, and we SHOULD be ready to rock the NFL next year. I'm saddened by the "almost" games we lost, but, that is hindsight, over and done with, and I'm ready to move forward.

I will be there Sunday, haven't missed a home game yet, and I'll do some more damage to my vocal cords. Eight years of Bullpen fandom has taken it's toll on my voice, as well as my old body. lol BUT, I'll be there doing my part to rock Reliant and help our boys make this a winning season. As for the playoffs, I don't even think about that. If it happens GREAT, if not, then so be it. I'll just get ready for next year. I'm sincerely thankful, and very happy, I have a hometown football team to root for. THey are MINE, win, lose, or draw, and that my dear friend, is what being a fan is all about.

Hope to see ya Sunday!!
Click to expand...


Although I think we underachieved this year, and I was pretty dissappointed in the middle of the year I think we set our hopes to high. We set ourselves up for dissappointment (Some of us). However after calming down after a three game win streak, I look at those almost games in a different way. Those almost games mean that the Texans "almost" won, as oppossed to bever bieng in the game. We only had one "never in it game", which was against the Jets, every other game was close until late in the game. I think there were only three games that were'nt down to the wire to either win or go in to OT. Have we ever been able to say that before. Although not satisfying, that is improvement.


9 and 7 means a lot to me, and I think it will give this team the swagger next year that it had after 5 games this year, when they got in the groove before the bad stretch.

I think the whole 2 quarter thing should be fixed in the offseason by some interior OL, a little good luck with health and maybe a draft pick at RB. The defense is great at times with a couple of lapses per game. I feel Kubiaks folly this year was not accepting that this offense is a high octane offense. I mean they are like a Stock Car, when you start off they sound like they won't even run, hell they sound like they're gonna stall, but at about 5000 rpm's they sound like hell on wheels. This offense has no throttle back, it's all or nothing. It seems like Kubes try's to keep the offense in overdrive in the second half when they lead, but then Shaub throws an INT or a RB fumbles and he puckers and try's to limp to the win. He finally gave in to the pass to set up the run, even if there was just enough run to keep the defense honest, he just should have kept the offensive throttle opened up even after a couple of miscues. If they can fix the running game, they can hold on to leads, keep the defense knocking the piss out of people and go 12-4 next year regardless of the schedule.


I praying for the playoffs this year, and I have a funny feeling if we take care of business on Sunday the football gods good reward us, but either way I'm excited about next years prospects even though I'm tired of saying that.

So here's to 9-7 whether we see a game in January or not!!!!!!!!
 
Lucky said:
9-7 is better than 8-8. But, 10-6 would have been much, much nicer.
Click to expand...

So true. One more win and this board would be going bananas right now.

BUT.....9-7 is still a HUGE deal for a team who's never been a winner.

I think (assuming the Texans win this Sunday) just knowing they're winners throughout the off-season will have a real effect on their self-esteem and the way they approach next season.
 
bckey said:
I think maybe if we beat the real Patriots on sunday we can be happy for a winning season but if our first winning season comes from the Patriots playing their 2nd and 3rd stringers it would be kind of blah. I don't want anything handed to us. I want them to play their starters for 4 quarters and the Texans go out and earn their first winning season. That my fellow fans is something we could brag about.
Click to expand...

I won't have a problem if the Pats pull their starters and the Texans win. If the Pats pull their starters after a half....well...a half is like a full game for the Texans so it shouldn't make much difference, right?
 
TexansFanatic said:
BUT.....9-7 is still a HUGE deal for a team who's never been a winner.
Click to expand...
I don't see it. Last offseason, there were posters here suggesting the Texans 8-8 record in 2008 was more impressive than Arizona's 9-7 (which qualified for the NFC playoffs). And while I didn't buy that argument then, there is little to distinguish between this seasons possible 9-7 mark and last season's 8-8. Both seasons, the Texans beat up on the weak and struggled with the strong.

The Texans previous strong finishes never created momentum into the following season. There's no logic suggesting that would change, next year. A franchise best 9-7 record would seem hollow, when the team realizes they were one game away from the Super Bowl tournament. Now if fans want to be happy about 9-7, that's fine. I would hope that 9-7 would leave a bitter taste in the collective mouth of the Texans. From the owner to the ball boys. At some point, this franchise needs to make a commitment to becoming a champion, rather than celebrate stats.
 
I wonder if the Rockets celebrated their first 42-40 season.
I wonder if the Astros celebrated their first 82-80 season.

9-7 ain't a losing season, but don't go and have a parade over it.

If they get to 9-7, good on 'em. This team needs to reach high. Aim for
6-0 in your division, 16-0 overall. If the first words out of your mouth
after a loss are "ho hum, gee gosh, look at the film get 'em next week."
You need a kick in the ass. Championships don't come to you by accident.
You have to go out and TAKE it.
 
DexmanC said:
I wonder if the Rockets celebrated their first 42-40 season.
I wonder if the Astros celebrated their first 82-80 season.

9-7 ain't a losing season, but don't go and have a parade over it.

If they get to 9-7, good on 'em. This team needs to reach high. Aim for
6-0 in your division, 16-0 overall. If the first words out of your mouth
after a loss are "ho hum, gee gosh, look at the film get 'em next week."
You need a kick in the ass. Championships don't come to you by accident.
You have to go out and TAKE it.
Click to expand...

I will be happier with 9-7 than 8-8. Like Thorn said, it is important for us to get used to winning. It ain't nothing to prade about but at least we will have our first winning record season which is important and improvement for our team IMO. And to me comparing with Stros and Rockets aren't good example as they had winning season and went to championship games in the past. Like I said, everything start from winning and for our Texans, this is our first time to have a legit winning record season.

Our playoff contender team tradition starts from here!
 
Last edited:
gary said:
Do not exspect it that's fine but do not say there isn't any difference between an 8-8 season and a winning season when there is.
Click to expand...

NO, there's not.

Sorry to dampen your emotions.

9-7 and 8-8 are going to both end up doing the same thing: No playoffs.

10-6? That's a big deal.

9-7? "We finally have a winning season!"

We need a smiley where a happy face comes out, has a "blah" look on his face and throws a few scraps of confetti, blows a party favor, and then walks off.
 
Lucky said:
I don't see it. Last offseason, there were posters here suggesting the Texans 8-8 record in 2008 was more impressive than Arizona's 9-7 (which qualified for the NFC playoffs). And while I didn't buy that argument then, there is little to distinguish between this seasons possible 9-7 mark and last season's 8-8. Both seasons, the Texans beat up on the weak and struggled with the strong.

The Texans previous strong finishes never created momentum into the following season. There's no logic suggesting that would change, next year. A franchise best 9-7 record would seem hollow, when the team realizes they were one game away from the Super Bowl tournament. Now if fans want to be happy about 9-7, that's fine. I would hope that 9-7 would leave a bitter taste in the collective mouth of the Texans. From the owner to the ball boys. At some point, this franchise needs to make a commitment to becoming a champion, rather than celebrate stats.
Click to expand...

Now why do you have to go and pour water on everybody's parade like that?

LOL.

I think you posted the perfect post on this topic.

I wish I could make the whole thing my signature.

I guess my current signature will have to do...
 
meh.......if we, as Houston football fans, were to cry over all the spilt milk, then the entire water level of the planet would go up three feet.

The Texans probably won't make the playoffs, they might not even get to 9-7 this year. I don't care, because I'll be back next season for more. All these debates about what coulda shoulda woulda get old after a while. I've been watching pro football since the late 60s, and we could do far worse than Smith and Kubiak. I've seen it. Kubiak is going way to slow for the talent level on this team for me. But it ain't all his fault.

I just don't see how some folks put it ALL on Kubiak, when that just isn't the case.
 
Lucky said:
I don't see it. Last offseason, there were posters here suggesting the Texans 8-8 record in 2008 was more impressive than Arizona's 9-7 (which qualified for the NFC playoffs). And while I didn't buy that argument then, there is little to distinguish between this seasons possible 9-7 mark and last season's 8-8. Both seasons, the Texans beat up on the weak and struggled with the strong.

The Texans previous strong finishes never created momentum into the following season. There's no logic suggesting that would change, next year. A franchise best 9-7 record would seem hollow, when the team realizes they were one game away from the Super Bowl tournament. Now if fans want to be happy about 9-7, that's fine. I would hope that 9-7 would leave a bitter taste in the collective mouth of the Texans. From the owner to the ball boys. At some point, this franchise needs to make a commitment to becoming a champion, rather than celebrate stats.
Click to expand...

Lucky,

Damn, I hit the rep button so fast my head spun. But, the system won't allow me to rep you again so soon.

BRILLIANT post. And I agree 100000000 percent.

Your comments about the Texans beating up on the weak and struggled with the strong was damn near literary. And, it also highlights the issue I face: Renew the season tix, or no?

Great post.
 
Thorn said:
meh.......if we, as Houston football fans, were to cry over all the spilt milk, then the entire water level of the planet would go up three feet.

The Texans probably won't make the playoffs, they might not even get to 9-7 this year. I don't care, because I'll be back next season for more. All these debates about what coulda shoulda woulda get old after a while. I've been watching pro football since the late 60s, and we could do far worse than Smith and Kubiak. I've seen it. Kubiak is going way to slow for the talent level on this team for me. But it ain't all his fault.

I just don't see how some folks put it ALL on Kubiak, when that just isn't the case.
Click to expand...

I think the whole culture of sports has changed dramatically since the 60s.

Things back then moved slower. Building things took time. Then people started figuring out that the way they differentiated themselves from their competitors (in EVERY form of business or competition) was to do things a lot faster than their opponent.

Everything moves faster now. Think about it. You can't even purchase a piece of technology before it's already "slower" than the next new thing that's come out to replace it. Even the sports media are now rendered almost useless with the Twitter posts which allows athletes and insiders to provide the fastest updates imaginable. Think about it: In the 60s, writers would hang out in the clubs with the players or go sit in the office of the team's facility to get a story--which wouldn't be read until the next day!--and now the players themselves are reporting what they're doing.

Everything is getting faster.

To that extent, I think there's a gap between the old codgers like you and the young smarty pants like me. Where you see an opportunity to watch football that's at least "better than it had been a long time ago...," I see just another blip on my radar that appeared and then vanished just as quickly.

Are we the Rams? No, and THANK GOODNESS! we're not. I have something to be grateful for, I suppose.

It's just one thing to know that this year is gone, and that probably next year is going to bring more of the same.

There's a reason our President can only have four years before he faces the electorate again. LOL. I wish we did the same thing.
 
A winning season would be a good step, especially if it comes against a Pats team that plays to win. However, given the trend of playing two quarters of football per game, I can't get too excited about 9-7, really. Even some of the games they won were only because the other team ran out of time. The Texans didn't put them away. That bothers me, and makes me feel like they aren't a good team yet (which they aren't).

But if the Pats come out and play to win and the good guys prevail, I'll be as happy as I can for now.
 
We are 8-7...k...

We are 2nd in the AFC South...k...

IF we win against the Pats we will still be 2nd to the Colts...I can deal with that even at us not making the playoffs, hell we came from last to winning 3 straight and have us 2nd in our division. I admit I was pissed because of the loses this season with ummm Kris Brown and everything but hell we are a great team and we will be even better...w/o Brown...(I had to do it):mcnugget:
 
SheTexan said:
:laughjump:

I'm cheerin up!! Last night at work TONIGHT, then off for 4 nights!! YEA!! I won't be grumpy on Sunday!! DRUNK maybe, but, not grumpy. I'm a HAPPY drunk!! :winky::shetexan:
Click to expand...

This I gotta see, I have never see grandma take even a sip of booze.
Andy( Bullpen Photos) please take photos for us out of towners, thanks.
 
GP said:
NO, there's not.

Sorry to dampen your emotions.

9-7 and 8-8 are going to both end up doing the same thing: No playoffs.

10-6? That's a big deal.

9-7? "We finally have a winning season!"

We need a smiley where a happy face comes out, has a "blah" look on his face and throws a few scraps of confetti, blows a party favor, and then walks off.
Click to expand...

9-7 IMO, is huge for a team that has never gotten there before. I could understand your thinking if we had been there and done that, but we haven't.

As far as the playoffs, the pats went 11-5 and missed the playoffs last year and the Cards went 9-7 and made it to the superbowl.

It's important to me because if we win on Sunday, I won't ever have to hear "The Texans have never had a winning season" again.

Onward and Upward!
 
thorn said:
meh.......if we, as houston football fans, were to cry over all the spilt milk, then the entire water level of the planet would go up three feet.

The texans probably won't make the playoffs, they might not even get to 9-7 this year. I don't care, because i'll be back next season for more. All these debates about what coulda shoulda woulda get old after a while. I've been watching pro football since the late 60s, and we could do far worse than smith and kubiak. I've seen it. Kubiak is going way to slow for the talent level on this team for me. But it ain't all his fault.

I just don't see how some folks put it all on kubiak, when that just isn't the case.
Click to expand...

well put! We will all be back next year!
 
Thorn said:
meh.......if we, as Houston football fans, were to cry over all the spilt milk, then the entire water level of the planet would go up three feet.

The Texans probably won't make the playoffs, they might not even get to 9-7 this year. I don't care, because I'll be back next season for more. All these debates about what coulda shoulda woulda get old after a while. I've been watching pro football since the late 60s, and we could do far worse than Smith and Kubiak. I've seen it. Kubiak is going way to slow for the talent level on this team for me. But it ain't all his fault.

I just don't see how some folks put it ALL on Kubiak, when that just isn't the case.
Click to expand...

What? You weren't that impressed with Ed Biles, Chuck Studley or Hugh Campbell?? :spin:
 
all the air came out for me when we rolled into week 14 with 5 wins for the 3rd straight year. We have what amounts to the Denny Green Cardinals...so we have that going for us.
 
DexmanC said:
I wonder if the Rockets celebrated their first 42-40 season.
Click to expand...

They had their first non-losing season in 1974/75, which was also their first trip to the playoffs. I'd imagine that Rockets fans were pretty happy with it at the time. (This was 8 years into their existence, btw. All losing seasons before this point.)

DexmanC said:
I wonder if the Astros celebrated their first 82-80 season.
Click to expand...

11 years into their existence, the Astros finally obtained a winning record of 84-69 (1972). I would figure that Astros fans were happy to finally get a winning record after a decade+ of futility.

DexmanC said:
9-7 ain't a losing season, but don't go and have a parade over it.
Click to expand...

Hyperbole at it's finest. I have yet to read any Texans fans suggesting such a celebration. If anything, it's a sigh of relief to finally get over the "no winning season" that still follows this franchise in year 8.

DexmanC said:
If they get to 9-7, good on 'em. This team needs to reach high. Aim for 6-0 in your division, 16-0 overall. If the first words out of your mouth after a loss are "ho hum, gee gosh, look at the film get 'em next week."
You need a kick in the ass. Championships don't come to you by accident.
You have to go out and TAKE it.
Click to expand...

I don't disagree with you. The team does need to set it's sights high, and at this point, that would be beating the Patriots for a winning record and hoping 2 out of 3 teams lose. It's where we are at right now, so why not just enjoy the moment as a fan.

Fans will have a long off-season and plenty of time to stomp sour grapes and butt heads with each other. :shades:
 
Vinny said:
all the air came out for me when we rolled into week 14 with 5 wins for the 3rd straight year. We have what amounts to the Denny Green Cardinals...so we have that going for us.
Click to expand...

Losing all those divisional games did it for me. We won the first game with the Titans, then dropped the next FIVE divisional games. FIVE.

That was the last straw for this Texans fan.

If we had won at least TWO of the FIVE that we dropped, we're in great shape right now.

Oh well. Just more of the same from Gary Kubiak: Horseshoes and hand grenades!
 
GP said:
Losing all those divisional games did it for me. We won the first game with the Titans, then dropped the next FIVE divisional games. FIVE.

That was the last straw for this Texans fan.

If we had won at least TWO of the FIVE that we dropped, we're in great shape right now.

Oh well. Just more of the same from Gary Kubiak: Horseshoes and hand grenades!
Click to expand...

We've finished on 3-1 kicks to end the year for two years running. This
is the first time we have a shot to finish the year on a 4-0 kick!!! Whoo hoo!!
:sarcasm:
 
Thorn said:
I want 9-7 whether we go to the playoffs or not. I want the Texans to get used to being winners.
Click to expand...

If they don't, we can all take one of these ...

4232022020_b643982824_o.jpg
 
GP said:
Losing all those divisional games did it for me. We won the first game with the Titans, then dropped the next FIVE divisional games. FIVE.

That was the last straw for this Texans fan.

If we had won at least TWO of the FIVE that we dropped, we're in great shape right now.

Oh well. Just more of the same from Gary Kubiak: Horseshoes and hand grenades!
Click to expand...

Co-sign. That's what did it for me. Those division games sucked the life out of me.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top