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What do we need the most?

What do we need the most ?

  • Left Tackle

    Votes: 44 33.8%

  • Tight End - that can block and catch

    Votes: 45 34.6%

  • Center

    Votes: 17 13.1%

  • Defensive Lineman

    Votes: 2 1.5%

  • Strong Safety

    Votes: 2 1.5%

  • #2 WR

    Votes: 6 4.6%

  • another Pass Rushing Linebacker - (Capers' vote)

    Votes: 3 2.3%

  • Offensive Co-ordinator - that knows blocking

    Votes: 11 8.5%
  • Total voters
    130
  • Poll closed .
throwANDREtheBALL

throwANDREtheBALL

Waterboy
I'm really curious as to what everyone thinks we are in dire need of.

I've heard LT a lot. And TE, and some think just Mckinney needs to be replaced.

Do you think we need a SS ?

#2 WR ?

I want as many to vote as possible so we know what the fans really perceive as the biggest area of concern.
 
If we had a good center, it would make the rest of the line look much better...McKinney consistently gets pushed backwards, therefore there's no pocket for Carr to step into...If there was pocket, when the tackle got beat by a rusher, they would be able to just push the rusher wide with little risk of having the rusher sack Carr...
 
I think we need a TE the most, and then a C, and then a LT. I think Wand will improve, and he'll be serviceable until we can find a better option. McKinney is a weakness, but until someone is able to unseat him we'll have to get used to him being there. I hope Hogdon ends up pushing McKinney for the starting spot next season, but I doubt he makes a serious push this season. I'd really like to see us have a solid and reliable TE. I thought that BJ would be that this year, but obviously he won't. I'd be surprised if we don't address that at some point in the offseason next year whether it be through the draft of FA.
 
D-ReK said:
If we had a good center, it would make the rest of the line look much better...McKinney consistently gets pushed backwards
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I dunno...this Hodgdon guy might push McKinney for his job - I can only hope. You know all of our division opponents are 4-3 Ds (last I heard atleast, so many converting to 3-4), which means our center is uncovered and going across the los after a LB much of the plays; the ARState rookie is a smallish, quick center I've read and might be suited for being an effective center in our OL. Just one more thing for us to keep our eyes on in training camp.
 
I can't honestly say that the Texans are in "dire need" of anything on your list. The days of being in dire need are over. Of the choices you have up there I see a few that could upgrade this team.

A franchise LT would immediatly improve the team as would an honest to goodness 1500-1600 yard per year RB (that's not a choice however).

A lot of teams out there could say the same thing. The Texans aren't any thinner than the majority of the NFL.

After the LT and RB I'd say a healthy catching AND blocking TE would make a big impact. We need one of those. Then a Center. Finally the rest of your list all comes in as a big tie. We don't "need" any of those but of course it's always good to try and upgrade.
 
D-ReK said:
If we had a good center, it would make the rest of the line look much better...McKinney consistently gets pushed backwards, therefore there's no pocket for Carr to step into...If there was pocket, when the tackle got beat by a rusher, they would be able to just push the rusher wide with little risk of having the rusher sack Carr...
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I totally agree with D-Rek on this one....Mckinney gets beat way too often up the middle and has Carr roll out into a sack way too often....but now that BJ is out for yet another season...I think the TE position is another huge need....but I would work on getting a REAL center on the line and then see how it effects the rest of the o-line...it would do wonders for Carr and Co. if we could solve that positon problem.
 
sprtsfanatic said:
I totally agree with D-Rek on this one....Mckinney gets beat way too often up the middle and has Carr roll out into a sack way too often....but now that BJ is out for yet another season...I think the TE position is another huge need....but I would work on getting a REAL center on the line and then see how it effects the rest of the o-line...it would do wonders for Carr and Co. if we could solve that positon problem.
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If the Texans felt this to be true they could have kept trading down in the 1st round aquiring multiple draft picks then selected David Baas much like Vinny did in the first mock draft (05) exacuted right here. They seemed only interested in a LT.

Another factor was they expected BJ to finally stay healthy enough to become their starting TE. Now of course its going to be very difficult for him to ever reach the promising potential Casserly once thought of him. In hindsight picking Heath Miller would have made alot of sense but the Texans will have to address this need in next years draft.

The name I see mentioned the most as the 1st round pick in 2006 of the Texans is Texas OT Jonathan Scott (not a center or TE). If the Texans sign Verba however, along with Wand the Texans should have a solid tackle by committee for next season. In this case TE would be the #1 need (05).
 
People have won me over on the arguement that we need a center the most. It is hard for Wand and Wade to use their long reach and and ride DEs out of plays when Carr has nowhere to step up. I would love to see a new center.
 
For me it's a toss up between LT and a quality TE. I'll take either.

Next would be a center.

Finally, I'd like to see what our wide receiver crew could do if we had that LT and TE to give Carr sometime, and take some pressure off of the receivers (I'm speaking of the TE on the latter portion). I really think we could be ok at this spot with the growth of our veterans, and the additions of our rookies.
 
TexansNeedRBin05 said:
I voted Tight End by why is RB not up there? Thats crazy! :confused:
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Dude, you are too focused on a running back; your name says it all. We've got Davis, who won ROTY, and who's rushed for over 1000 yards each season. I'm not saying he's Emmit Smith, but he's getting the job done.

We also drafted a running back in the draft; let's see what this guy does before we scream he sucks too.
 
TexansNeedRBin05 said:
I voted Tight End by why is RB not up there? Thats crazy! :confused:
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Because we already have a RB that has proven himself, regardless of what you may think.

Well TexansPride already said it, I typed too slow!!
 
throwANDREtheBALL said:
Maybe LT wouldn't be up there if we had an offensive co-ordinator that had more knowledge of pass-blocking ?

Just MAYBE, though
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Does it matter that he is not knowledgeable? If guys can't block the guy in front of them, no matter what the scheme is, then it should fall on the individual.
If we are in trouble because more guys are coming than we have to block them, then that falls on the coordinator.
 
Texans Pride said:
For me it's a toss up between LT and a quality TE. I'll take either.

Next would be a center.

Finally, I'd like to see what our wide receiver crew could do if we had that LT and TE to give Carr sometime, and take some pressure off of the receivers (I'm speaking of the TE on the latter portion). I really think we could be ok at this spot with the growth of our veterans, and the additions of our rookies.
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I'm pretty in line with your feelings on this one. The current three-step drop & throw is a stop-gap measure at best to keep Carr from injury. By switching to that system (3 & throw), the Texans are basically acknowledging that they aren't expecting the OL to be dramatically better.

Comparing our sack stats against other teams, without including details such as # of steps in the drop, QB "hurries", etc. in the mix can be very misleading. When Carr has the time, he's definitely 'above average' for a QB, but he's either never had the time, nor enough WRs/TEs that can spread the defense effectively to really show it.

I can't wait for the season to start either! :drool:
 
disaacks3 said:
I'm pretty in line with your feelings on this one. The current three-step drop & throw is a stop-gap measure at best to keep Carr from injury. By switching to that system (3 & throw), the Texans are basically acknowledging that they aren't expecting the OL to be dramatically better.
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They really aren't adopting a new "system". They are just doing more timing patterns and less run and shoot type read and react type patterns.
 
Vinny what is your stance on C. Palmer. I do not think he is a bad O. Coordinator, but not exactly the right fit for a team with our particular skills and shortcummings. I think he would be a great fit in say Cincinatti, but I think we need to adopt a more west-coast offense. A hybrid more in the mold of the Raiders. I like there run-first, play-action, and downfield strike play. I think we have the components for that. With Gaff being the perfect inside slant and possession receiver that type of offense needs. Tell me what you think...
 
Palmer is a Raiders style coordinator (they chunked the wco btw), and is in no way a wco guy. That is his big knock....He has too many long developing patterns and runs too vertical an offense. It worked great in Jacksonville though. Palmers offense was the best in the NFL at Jacksonville where they tore up the NFL with Brunell, Smith and Taylor. I think most people are just upset we struggled like an expansion team. I don't see our offense as bad. We were pretty much .500 last year and are on course for a big year this year. I think people want it all...and want it all yesterday.
 
Vinny said:
They really aren't adopting a new "system". They are just doing more timing patterns and less run and shoot type read and react type patterns.
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That's because the Texans haven't had the TIME to do a read & react offense. Using a 3-Step drop as the "primary" passing configuration isn't common at all throughtout the league...even by teams whose OL is supposedly ranked 'lower' than the Texans unit.
 
They are ADDING in the routes, not changing the scheme. Also, the run and shoot routes can be as quick as the other routes, but the timing routes have more precision. Most of the offense will not change.
 
Vinny said:
I think people want it all...and want it all yesterday.
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Today would be just as good Vinny :rolleyes:

IMO dont necessarily see that were on course for a bigger year. But I think this year to use a poker term is a push for us.

On Topic - I went LT - To me it's a position we have needed to solidify since the team started and has never been settled. I dont see us really improving or going back down too far this year. Still more than a few areas of concern to address. But enough talent on the team to be a .500 ballclub again this year. I'm sticking with my 8-8 pick for this season.
 
I think the one thing people overlook is the overall age of the starting units on both sides of the ball, all still very young still developing so an extra offseason will only help. Continunity is also very important and we will have that with our offense.

On the topic at hand i think its the left tackle position. we at least have someone on the roster although injured that could be the answer at tight end, there isn't necesarily that on our roster for the left tackle position, Wand is still leaps and bounds away but is improving.
 
just a question, but what year is Joppru in with his contract, and if it is near the RFA or UFA mark do we extend his stay in H-town or do we cut our losses and try someone new. I honestly was looking forward to seeing what he could, as well as thought that there was no way he could go down for a 3rd "straight" year.
 
it is clear that if we are to go by need only and not the all star team we all dream of, we only have a few needs:
TE: no forseeable hope for this year.
C: same deal.

the position i would most like to see us upgrade besides those is FS. I like colemen but he is old and gets burnt too often.

DD is a proven 1000+ rusher and morency is a clone. RB is not a need or close to it.

#2 WR: not a need, we are stacked. you can chose speed or hands and we have it. gaffeny and armstrong for hands. mathis for speed. we aren't going to draft a wr in the first couple of rounds to just run next to AJ. We are set at reciever. We really only need a TE and C.
 
Franchise LT first...this would add 50-75 yards per game in total offense and account for 3-5 more TDs over the season, which would add one - two more wins for certain.

Another WR option for Carr whether #2 received or TE who can catch...either would work, though I would love to have a premier tight end to runs dunks to.

Next, Premier Safety.
 
The question is what do we need the MOST ?

Not, what do we need?

cuz, I know that we need a lot.....but, I was trying to clear it up for the Front Office, so they don't get confused and sign another linebacker, instead of Bubba Franks or an O-lineman that can play C or LT.
 
throwANDREtheBALL said:
The question is what do we need the MOST ?

Not, what do we need?

cuz, I know that we need a lot.....but, I was trying to clear it up for the Front Office, so they don't get confused and sign another linebacker, instead of Bubba Franks or an O-lineman that can play C or LT.
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Is Franks really available. If so, why are we not pursuing?
 
Big B Texan Fan said:
Is Franks really available. If so, why are we not pursuing?
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Technically yes, but realistically no. The Packers have transition tagged him which means they have a right to match but do not get any compensation if they choose not to do so. Nonetheless, Franks has made it pretty plain in interviews and by action that he wants to play for the Packers and is not really entertaining offers until such time as he concludes he can't work something out with the Packers.
 
Money Talks...........If the Texans offer him a good deal, do you really think that he's going to say, "No thanks, I'm going to wait until the Packers offer me something lesser"

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I don't think so, but, maybe.

And the Packers are reportedly cash-strapped......so if Tight End was a concern with Casserly and Company, don't you think that they would've already offered Franks a deal ?
 
throwANDREtheBALL said:
Money Talks...........If the Texans offer him a good deal, do you really think that he's going to say, "No thanks, I'm going to wait until the Packers offer me something lesser"
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So basically go throw so much money at him, i.e. above market price, that he can't say no to. Great way to manage the cap.
 
Ya know, I'm recalling Casserly saying that we weren't gonna be BIG movers and shakers in free agency this year. Although Franks isn't technically a FA I'm sure it falls under the same category. Greenwood and P-Buc so far, that's probably it. I read an article on the CBA and maybe the Texans are waiting for a new CBA B-4 they move on anyone else.
 
infantrycak said:
Technically yes, but realistically no. The Packers have transition tagged him which means they have a right to match but do not get any compensation if they choose not to do so. Nonetheless, Franks has made it pretty plain in interviews and by action that he wants to play for the Packers and is not really entertaining offers until such time as he concludes he can't work something out with the Packers.
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Thanx
 
Damage control? We are coming off a solid season where we made huge improvements across the board and are ready to compete for the playoffs this year. It is amazing you chicken littles can't see it.
 
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