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Dear Texans fans,

I would like to start this thread by saying that I am a die hard Texans fan. I have been around since the first draft, since the naming of the team, watching all drafts, preseason games, showing up at training camp, going to games, rewatching games, etc.

That said, it is extremely difficult to continue to be a Texans fan. And it is not because of the loss last night - that was rough but we will overcome it. My problem is with our fans. There is just entirely too many of you who can't help yourselves from coming across as perennial loser, jealous because he beat you in college, blind hatred for Vince Young AGGY. All this V Cry stuff, and 1 sack from quitting on his team bullshit? It reeks of pathetic aggy loserdom. I know that not everyone on this board is a UT grad, but it is time to let go of your decade of losing ways. It's the same thing with how they call Colt "Cart McCoy", even after they get rolled. Or barely become bowl eligible, get owned by Texas, and then insist on calling us TU or sips. It is a pathetic loser joke that is only funny to you. The exact same thing came today on SR610 when callers would call in and make fun of VY, as if we had won the game. This use of stupid nicknames and blanket hate for Vince must end -- it comes off as a LOSER AGGIE mentality.

This is important for you all to know. It is okay to be both a UT fan, and a Texans fan. Even though I will always have a soft spot for VY, I still pull for the Texans in every game. Yes I want Vince to have a successful career, and no I'm not trying to revisit the 2006 draft after every game. I simply want to enjoy following both of my teams. And the way you all come off makes it exceptionally difficult to be a part of this fan base.

So please. Support your team. Rep your favorite player. But enough with the pathetic hate. It makes all of us look bad.
 
VY hate has nothing to do with the Aggies, get over yourself Longhorn Nation. Its about hating the Titans and anyone who suits up for those goons especially their QB. College has nothing to do with what's going on in the pros dude, I don't know who you know or who this is directed at specifically but I disagree with the sentiment.

But for Texans fans who are Aggies and hate him because of the mere Longhorn-Aggie rivalry, shame on you. I'll take any player from any college on the Texans as long as their good. Heck I used to hate the Trojans until we brought Brian Cushing on board, now I have the utmost respect for that school because of him.
 
VY hate has nothing to do with the Aggies, get over yourself Longhorn Nation. Its about hating the Titans and anyone who suits up for those goons especially their QB. College has nothing to do with what's going on in the pros dude, I don't know who you know or who this is directed at specifically but I disagree with the sentiment.

But for Texans fans who are Aggies and hate him because of the mere Longhorn-Aggie rivalry, shame on you. I'll take any player from any college on the Texans as long as their good. Heck I used to hate the Trojans until we brought Brian Cushing on board, now I have the utmost respect for that school because of him.

Well said.

I'm a Longhorn fan and I loved Vince at UT, but as soon as he donned that powder blue uni he became the enemy. I wish nothing but suffering upon him.
 
Dear Texans fans,

I would like to start this thread by saying that I am a die hard Texans fan. I have been around since the first draft, since the naming of the team, watching all drafts, preseason games, showing up at training camp, going to games, rewatching games, etc.

That said, it is extremely difficult to continue to be a Texans fan. And it is not because of the loss last night - that was rough but we will overcome it. My problem is with our fans. There is just entirely too many of you who can't help yourselves from coming across as perennial loser, jealous because he beat you in college, blind hatred for Vince Young AGGY. All this V Cry stuff, and 1 sack from quitting on his team bullshit? It reeks of pathetic aggy loserdom. I know that not everyone on this board is a UT grad, but it is time to let go of your decade of losing ways. It's the same thing with how they call Colt "Cart McCoy", even after they get rolled. Or barely become bowl eligible, get owned by Texas, and then insist on calling us TU or sips. It is a pathetic loser joke that is only funny to you. The exact same thing came today on SR610 when callers would call in and make fun of VY, as if we had won the game. This use of stupid nicknames and blanket hate for Vince must end -- it comes off as a LOSER AGGIE mentality.

This is important for you all to know. It is okay to be both a UT fan, and a Texans fan. Even though I will always have a soft spot for VY, I still pull for the Texans in every game. Yes I want Vince to have a successful career, and no I'm not trying to revisit the 2006 draft after every game. I simply want to enjoy following both of my teams. And the way you all come off makes it exceptionally difficult to be a part of this fan base.

So please. Support your team. Rep your favorite player. But enough with the pathetic hate. It makes all of us look bad.

your avatar has a perfect posterior....if thats your wife, what the hell are you doing posting?

as for the post itself, i agree with a lot of what you are saying but don't expect similar sentiment around this forum. vince is the enemy. he showed some class last night but it doesn't matter. he is the QB of our rival so he is going to get some grief. its all smack talk. no big deal.

my problem hasn't been the smack but rather the rush to dismiss his tools and ability. anyone who has watched the guy knows he can play the QB position. Is he the sharpest tool in the shed? maybe not, but he has a good football mind, its just based around his set of unique tools/skills. That means less passing and more running. You can't turn a Lambo into a Rolls Royce, both have their pluses and minuses its just how you like to drive. The Titans thrive around Vince's ability so why try and turn him into a pocket passer? Go with what got you there...the wheels and the moves. Ask Dunta if Vince still has moves....that was a brutal move.

but its the way it is. always will be. he needs to eat some crow next year and that is what makes division and true rivalries so great. we will get our shot as long as he QBs the Titans and that is looking like a real possibility next year and many more to come.
 
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VY hate has nothing to do with the Aggies, get over yourself Longhorn Nation. Its about hating the Titans and anyone who suits up for those goons especially their QB. College has nothing to do with what's going on in the pros dude, I don't know who you know or who this is directed at specifically but I disagree with the sentiment.

But for Texans fans who are Aggies and hate him because of the mere Longhorn-Aggie rivalry, shame on you. I'll take any player from any college on the Texans as long as their good. Heck I used to hate the Trojans until we brought Brian Cushing on board, now I have the utmost respect for that school because of him.

This. I didn't go to aTm and could not care less about him being a Longhorn. I just loathe the Titans.
 
VY hate has nothing to do with the Aggies, get over yourself Longhorn Nation. Its about hating the Titans and anyone who suits up for those goons especially their QB. College has nothing to do with what's going on in the pros dude, I don't know who you know or who this is directed at specifically but I disagree with the sentiment.

But for Texans fans who are Aggies and hate him because of the mere Longhorn-Aggie rivalry, shame on you. I'll take any player from any college on the Texans as long as their good. Heck I used to hate the Trojans until we brought Brian Cushing on board, now I have the utmost respect for that school because of him.

There is definitely some college hatred contributing. not everyone, but still pretty significant & worthy of mention.
 
VY hate has nothing to do with the Aggies, get over yourself Longhorn Nation. Its about hating the Titans and anyone who suits up for those goons especially their QB.

Bullshit....

Texans fans have been hating on Vince Young since he won the National Championship, when we were the worst team in football, with the worst QB, & the #1 overall pick.

It stems from Kool-aid sipping David Carr Homerism, and not being able to say, "I was wrong."

I'm not saying this is the case with you, or anyone else who may have posted in this thread.

But "fans" have been hating on Vince, before he ever wore Columbia Blue.
 
I am not a college football fan. I don't watch it. I don't care what he did when he was at UT. It's hard to be a UT fan? lol....try being a Texans fan in Austin. UT fans and their campaign to pull the Texans off the tv here made me hate them.

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I hate the Titans as much as, or more than anyone. But VY won the national championship my senior year of college. I will never hate him, or wish ill upon him. Nor will I hate any Texas player.

sir, it appears that you are the one with the collegiate alliance problem, and not the other way around.

get over yourself, and quit finger pointing.
 
I have no affiliation with UT. I grew up liking the SWC, especially UH. I am back in school late in life, and at UH. Case Keenum is awesome. If he went to the Tacks, I'd hate him. Simple. I liked VY when he was at UT, partially because he was exciting to watch, and partially because I'm on board with anything that raises football in the state of Texas to the highest level.

However, there's a special level of dislike for VY, and I'll explain it to you. You can accept it or no, but it's truth.

VY was/is not a good pro QB. He really wasn't, despite what the media and UT fans wanted to convince us of. He turned the ball over, was not an efficient passer, and made dumb decisions at the position. He made some spectacular plays as well, but hell, so did DC early on. Yet the media kept harping on what a great up and coming player he was, when I could see with my own eyes that he wasn't. It's like Reggie Bush all over again. Stop pissing down my neck and telling me it's raining. He's just not a good RB. Michael Vick is not, nor was he ever a good QB. The media hype really starts to annoy the crap out of you.

Now, fast forward to VY, Act II. He's been efficient in the pocket, making good decisions with the ball, and that all makes his running even more deadly. He's actually contributing to wins instead of taking away from them. VY was a big reason we lost to the Tacks last night. So I give him his due, and he may yet turn out to be a good pro QB. But he wasn't before this, despite the flashes.

QB in the NFL is mostly between the ears. If VY continues maturing, he may turn out well. If that happens, then I'll hate him because he's a good QB for a rival team, much the way I hated the Steelers as a kid. As it stands now, I hate him because he's a rival QB and I have had to repeatedly hear about him for completely insubstantial reasons.

Get it?
 
I'm a huge, huge Longhorn fan living in Austin.

I will hate on VY until he's not a Titan. The end. It pretty much comes down to whether you're more of a Texans fan or a UT fan. I'm a HUGE UT fan - but when it comes to the Texans, I'm insane. I honestly don't believe there's a bigger Texans fan than me. So, yeah, I love VY for what he did for UT but as long as he's a Titan - I'm going to hate the guy. It has nothing to do with anything other than - HE'S A TITAN.
 
Bullshit....

Texans fans have been hating on Vince Young since he won the National Championship, when we were the worst team in football, with the worst QB, & the #1 overall pick.

It stems from Kool-aid sipping David Carr Homerism, and not being able to say, "I was wrong."

I'm not saying this is the case with you, or anyone else who may have posted in this thread.

But "fans" have been hating on Vince, before he ever wore Columbia Blue.

Why would this matter now though when we have Matt Schaub? His success has put the "should we have taken a QB in 06" questions to bed. Besides that fact, there's other QBs we should be hating other than Vince Young if its all about not admitting we're wrong about picking up Carr's option. Cutler was a better QB in that draft, we coulda had Flacco last year and traded out. So its not like we're bitter over passing up opportunities to get a QB so we hate them for having success elsewhere.

More to my point, I want any good player on the Texans from whatever college. And I'll hate any Titan, from whatever college.
 
this thread redefines stupid.

where was all this vince young pimping when the guy was riding the pine and losing playoff games? refusing to take the field...turning the ball over...going suicidal? 4 games and Longhorn Nation is abuzz with that all-too-familiar itching in their groin area over their boy vince.
 
I think the biggest reason that Vince Young is hated by many fans here on this message board is the way in which his biggest fans have posted. I for one am tired of reading how the Texans somehow made a mistake by not drafting him. I am equally tired of reading how he just wins games, with very little credit given to his teammates. This line of thinking by VY fans has been the same since he was in college. I thought he was overrated then as I do now. Of course, I acknowledge that he is a great athlete, and he made a contribution to the Titans' victory, but he wasn't the reason they beat the Texans or any of the other teams they beat during their winning streak. Chris Johnson has continued to play just as well as he did before Vince was starting, but the biggest change has been the play of their defense. Vince's biggest contribution has been extending drives by converting third downs with runs. Eventually, a Defensive Coordinator will come up with a solution to that. I especially look forward to watching the Colts jump out to a quick big lead on the a Titans, so wecan see how great Vince really is when the Titans have to abandon their running attack and rely on Vince's arm and decision making to win the game. Good luck with that VY.
 
Why would this matter now though when we have Matt Schaub? His success has put the "should we have taken a QB in 06" questions to bed. Besides that fact, there's other QBs we should be hating other than Vince Young if its all about not admitting we're wrong about picking up Carr's option. Cutler was a better QB in that draft, we coulda had Flacco last year and traded out. So its not like we're bitter over passing up opportunities to get a QB so we hate them for having success elsewhere.

More to my point, I want any good player on the Texans from whatever college. And I'll hate any Titan, from whatever college.

I am not sure Cutler and his near 20 interceptions make him better than Vince. Vince got hurt and the Titans were winning without him so they didn't want to change things. In the process, Vince had to grow up and win back Fisher's trust. I don't think Fisher trusted him yet but Bud forced his hand and it has worked out and I am sure Fisher is happy about kinda being proven wrong.

I hope Vince falls on his face next week though. If they were to win their last 10 and make the playoffs, I just might implode. Crazier things have happened and that Vince/CJ option game looked literally unstoppable. It may get Vince knocked out but until that happens its gonna be pretty insane.

Even Flacco has taken a step back this year. That pick he threw when they were in 'field goal to win' range was inexcusable. Ravens fan had to be going ape bonkers.

I have always been in the camp of 'Young in 2006' but once Carr was re-signed it wasn't even up for discussion. I think we would have been better served by going with Young that year and letting Carr go be a Free Agent. 2 extra 2nd Round picks, a spot in the draft, Mario/Carr/Schaub cap space, and I think Vince would have done very well here in Houston. Not a very popular opinion but it is one that I truly believe in. The stars were aligned and we needed to give up on Carr not re-sign him.

Luckily, the team did get a player like Schaub who has stabilized the QB position and energized the offense more than some of us may realize. Things were really bad back then. Offense was a dream.

Now that Mario is a Texan, I have been fully behind him but QBs dont grow on trees and we gave up a lot to re-sign/cut Carr and trade/sign Schaub. Lots of cap space and draft picks. Just sayin.
 
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I am not sure Cutler and his near 20 interceptions make him better than Vince. Vince got hurt and the Titans were winning without him so they didn't want to change things. In the process, Vince had to grow up and win back Fisher's trust. I don't think Fisher trusted him yet but Bud forced his hand and it has worked out and I am sure Fisher is happy about kinda being proven wrong.

I hope Vince falls on his face next week though. If they were to win their last 10 and make the playoffs, I just might implode. Crazier things have happened and that Vince/CJ option game looked literally unstoppable. It may get Vince knocked out but until that happens its gonna be pretty insane.

Even Flacco has taken a step back this year. That pick he threw when they were in 'field goal to win' range was inexcusable. Ravens fan had to be going ape bonkers.

Cutler was a 4,000 yard pro bowl QB with the Broncos. The Bears are the problem not him. I'd like to see VY's numbers if he was the Bears starting QB all year.
 
Why would this matter now though when we have Matt Schaub? His success has put the "should we have taken a QB in 06" questions to bed. Besides that fact, there's other QBs we should be hating other than Vince Young if its all about not admitting we're wrong about picking up Carr's option. Cutler was a better QB in that draft, we coulda had Flacco last year and traded out. So its not like we're bitter over passing up opportunities to get a QB so we hate them for having success elsewhere.

If we had won Monday night, we would have been one step closer to shaking off that "pick" Matt had one of his better games, actually escaping from a couple of sacks, & making plays after the play broke down. But the W is the bottom line.

If Mario would have played half as well as we've seen him play in the past, we would have been one step closer to shaking off that pick... but he didn't.

I'm saying this, as a fan who scrapes together all he can find to sit in the nose-bleeds. As a fan who leaves the stadium by walking down 1300 miles of ramps with VY jersey wearing smug sons of #@!#s who know it's not forgotten.

& it's not about taking a better QB... it's about not getting the Houston Maddison Phenom..... the UT National Champion winning QB.. the Rose Bowl "winner", when we had the perfect circumstances & opportunity to do so. We had the #1 overall pick. We had a snake-bit encumbent QB, we had a new coach who happened to favor athletic QBs, who also happened to be thought of as a QB Guru.

Yeah, I wanted Vince... I've accepted that Mario was the right pick.. even though David Carr didn't last the 2 seasons I thought he would. Even though we still don't have a pass rush, after picking Mario #1 overall, spending over $60 million on Free Agent DEs, another 2nd round pick on a DE, another 1st round pick on a DT. Even though Vince Young might not have put up big "QB" numbers he was a big part of that win..... put Kerry Collins in that game, and we would have murdered the Titans.

Speaking of Kerry Collins.. a Titans QB.. do you (or anyone on this board) hate Kerry Collins or Patrick Ramsey as much as you hate Vince Young?

Why not?
 
I especially look forward to watching the Colts jump out to a quick big lead on the a Titans, so wecan see how great Vince really is when the Titans have to abandon their running attack and rely on Vince's arm and decision making to win the game. Good luck with that VY.

Now see...... this doesn't make any sense.

The Titans aren't a threat right now.......

Indy losing will help us get to the play-offs. We should all be hoping that Vince do what he do, and beat the Colts. Doesn't matter how you quantify the win, but the Titans beating the Colts helps the Texans.
 
Cutler was a 4,000 yard pro bowl QB with the Broncos. The Bears are the problem not him. I'd like to see VY's numbers if he was the Bears starting QB all year.

I'm not saying that Vince is better, I am just saying that its not a given and that Cutler hurts his team a lot more than a 'good' QB should.

that being said, one day the Bears will realize that Turner sucks as an OC and fire him. Until then, talents like Cutler will go to waste and implode.

The way Turner plays, I actually think Young would have some success up in Chicago. The cold could be a problem though. Other than that, I think he is a good fit for what Chicago wants to do. That is the problem in Chi-Town. They want to 'get off the bus running' but that isn't what wins in today's league. They have Cutler but they aren't opening it up except on 3rd Down or when they get behind.

That 'run first' mentality isn't what wins nowadays. Some teams with unique running talents like the Titans can do run-first but it doesn't win like it used to. It used to be the mantra, now its the exception. No contact after 5 yards has changed the game completely. Look at Belichik. He went from being run oriented to 50+ passes a game once they implemented that rule. Look at Pittsburgh. They used to be all about running, now its an aerial show. Look at Indy. Look at Philly. All the top performing teams feature a more aggressive and pass happy offense. Chicago just hasn't evolved. I will say that our offensive mindset and scheme is solid here in Houston. Lil'Shanny has done a remarkable job considering where they were and helping Schaub solidify the QB position.
 
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The last thing I wanna read after last nights loss is some turd trying to make me appreciate VY's talents. You're barking up the wrong tree. That game hurt badly and it still does, quit rubbing salt in the wounds. I stand by my comment.

But VY & his talents had nothing to do with that victory. It was all Chris Johnson & the Defense. Vince didn't even throw for 150 yards, and completed what? 50% of his passes? Mostly dinks & dunks??
 
Dear Texans fans,

I would like to start this thread by saying that I am a die hard Texans fan. I have been around since the first draft, since the naming of the team, watching all drafts, preseason games, showing up at training camp, going to games, rewatching games, etc.

That said, it is extremely difficult to continue to be a Texans fan. And it is not because of the loss last night - that was rough but we will overcome it. My problem is with our fans. There is just entirely too many of you who can't help yourselves from coming across as perennial loser, jealous because he beat you in college, blind hatred for Vince Young AGGY. All this V Cry stuff, and 1 sack from quitting on his team bullshit? It reeks of pathetic aggy loserdom. I know that not everyone on this board is a UT grad, but it is time to let go of your decade of losing ways. It's the same thing with how they call Colt "Cart McCoy", even after they get rolled. Or barely become bowl eligible, get owned by Texas, and then insist on calling us TU or sips. It is a pathetic loser joke that is only funny to you. The exact same thing came today on SR610 when callers would call in and make fun of VY, as if we had won the game. This use of stupid nicknames and blanket hate for Vince must end -- it comes off as a LOSER AGGIE mentality.

This is important for you all to know. It is okay to be both a UT fan, and a Texans fan. Even though I will always have a soft spot for VY, I still pull for the Texans in every game. Yes I want Vince to have a successful career, and no I'm not trying to revisit the 2006 draft after every game. I simply want to enjoy following both of my teams. And the way you all come off makes it exceptionally difficult to be a part of this fan base.

So please. Support your team. Rep your favorite player. But enough with the pathetic hate. It makes all of us look bad.

Alright, I'm a relatively new poster here, and a current student at Texas A&M and I intend on responding to this post with class, as classless as the original post may be.

I think I speak for all reasonable Aggie Texans fans when I say that none of us hate VY for what he did at UT now that he's in the NFL. As far as I'm concerned he could have been home-schooled by Jesus himself and I would "hate" him. I bracket the word hate because I don't really hate him, or any other player in the league. It's called a rivalry, which is something, judging by your intense A&M hatred, you have a difficult time grasping. That's okay though.

In fact, I don't even think it has all that much to do with the fact that he's on the Titans, although that certainly contributes. It has much more to do with the fact that his abilities are blown way out of proportion by the media and the cult that supports him in Austin and at Reliant Stadium. That and the fact that those same groups are VERY outspoken makes it very hard to like VY regardless of how well he plays.

Regarding your vehement hatred of Texas A&M University, calm down. You make it sound like I, and 48000 other people, attend the University of Adolf Hitler. If you weren't aware, our schools have something called a rivalry. As part of said rivalry, mean things get said about the other school and it's players. The thing is though, around here at least, it's all in good fun.

So I'm sorry for saying "mean" things about your hero Captain Sensitive, but just realize that it's part of the rivalry and it's something you have to deal with when your favorite player plays for a rival team.
 
Cutler was a 4,000 yard pro bowl QB with the Broncos. The Bears are the problem not him. I'd like to see VY's numbers if he was the Bears starting QB all year.

I'd like to see VYs numbers if he were the Broncos QB from 2006-2008.
 
Well, I'd say by now Vince is probably just about finished wiping all of Ron Jaworski's saliva out of his buttcrack so I guess it's a good time to address why people may not be lining up to be next.

Please, don't act like VY has been the man or hell, a man. He was benched for a reason and it was because as a passer he was a buck fitty and 2 ints to every TD in between his tears. Figures that since his attitude has changed so has his team. No legs can make up for that and even if they did it makes him a very medium level player. The Titans are not and have never been great because of VY. He's a cherry on top of a smashmouth running hella defensive ice cream sundae.

That said, I do wonder what the team would be like with him at the helm. I'd probably still hate him because of all the aural sex he recieves on national television.
 
I don't hate Vince Young.

I don't even care about Vince Young.

But, if people want to come in here after he threw for 12 of 22(54.5%) for 116 yards, 5.3 YPA, 1 TD, 1 Turn over, 1 dropped INT, and tell me he isn't a piss poor QB, I'm going to set you straight.

Vince Young is not a good QB
Vince Young is not an OK QB
Vince Young is a piss poor QB
 
I'm a UT student, and hey, I loved VY in college. Thanks for the championship Vince.

But he's not a Longhorn anymore. In fact, he plays for the team that I hate the most with a passion. Dirty, arrogant, smack talking, bird-flipping, team-stealing Tennessee Titans. So yeah, I root against VY. In fact, I might just hate him.

Why? Honestly, I just hate players who the national media hypes. Reggie Bush, the next coming of Barry Sanders. Vince Young, wielder of healing powers.

It's pathetic when my friends still laugh when they realize I'm a Texans fan and say "should have drafted Vince!". So yes. I want Vince Young to fail. I want him to fail so the Texans will succeed. I want him to fail so the national media can suck it. And I want him to fail so that the Texans will finally get some justification.

People crying about Vince Young hate need to take off their burnt-orange glasses. It's all boils down to this: Longhorns or Texans? I don't blame or condemn you if you pick the Longhorns. In fact, I commend you. Go Horns! But if you pick the Texans, you should NEVER. EVER. Root for an opposing player when he's a) playing against you b) playing in your division c) playing on a rival team or d) ALL OF THE ABOVE.
 
I dont watch college football much either iam a U of H cougers fan anywayz but they dont show them on TV much anwayz ....
 
It's all boils down to this: Longhorns or Texans? I don't blame or condemn you if you pick the Longhorns. In fact, I commend you. Go Horns! But if you pick the Texans, you should NEVER. EVER. Root for an opposing player when he's a) playing against you b) playing in your division c) playing on a rival team or d) ALL OF THE ABOVE.

Since when do the Longhorns play the Texans? Again, I root for teams not players so as long as the Longhorns play on Saturdays and the Texans on Sundays I really see no conflict.
 
I'd say the reason I hate VY and his minion of followers all boils down to the history of their postings on forums, listening to them call in at radio shows, and their overall attitudes. For three years now we've listened to the drivel of fanatics, the hurling of insults, etc. The OP by his own admission was banned for his comments. String them all together and you can see why most Texans fans detest VY. His assertion that it's "aggy" hatred? Class of '81 here, and I have no hatred for VY, do I make fun of him and his followers? Of course I do, they're easy to stir up. Not to mention all the free ammo VY seems to furnish us with LOL From a six on his wonderlic score, sausage boy parties, and quitting on the field, need I say more? And I guarantee ya this, he'll never succeed in the NFL until he learns how to read defenses, think pass first, and then as his last resort use his very talented legs. If he does these things, watch out, but if not, we'll see some more of these humorous stories above :)
 
Now see...... this doesn't make any sense.

The Titans aren't a threat right now.......

Indy losing will help us get to the play-offs. We should all be hoping that Vince do what he do, and beat the Colts. Doesn't matter how you quantify the win, but the Titans beating the Colts helps the Texans.

How does Indy losing help us get to the playoffs? With the exception us going 6-0, and them going 0-6 the last 6 games of the year, I don't see how Indy losing helps us get to the post-season.

It seems like with every team they play (except Buffalo) being a potential wild-card team (Jax, Denver, and even the Jets and Tennessee), the only game that would benefit us if they were to lose is this Sunday when they play us.
 
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How does Indy losing help us get to the playoffs? With the exception us going 6-0, and them going 0-6 the last 6 games of the year, I don't see how Indy losing helps us get to the post-season.

Why are we already giving up hope?

IF Tennessee beats the Colts, then we've only got to wait for them to lose 4 more games, & We've got to win out.

If they win, We've still got to win out, plus they would have to lose 5 games for us to match their record.

Every Colts loss helps us from here on out.

However "impossible" it may be, I believe in playing to win the division, until it is mathmatically impossible.. then play for a wild-card.

If Tennessee beats Indy, then we beat Indy, then Jacksonville beats Indy... we would have the same divisional record as Indy, if we go on to beat the Jags as well.
 
Dear Texans fans,

I would like to start this thread by saying that I am a die hard Texans fan. I have been around since the first draft, since the naming of the team, watching all drafts, preseason games, showing up at training camp, going to games, rewatching games, etc.

That said, it is extremely difficult to continue to be a Texans fan. And it is not because of the loss last night - that was rough but we will overcome it. My problem is with our fans. There is just entirely too many of you who can't help yourselves from coming across as perennial loser, jealous because he beat you in college, blind hatred for Vince Young AGGY. All this V Cry stuff, and 1 sack from quitting on his team bullshit? It reeks of pathetic aggy loserdom. I know that not everyone on this board is a UT grad, but it is time to let go of your decade of losing ways. It's the same thing with how they call Colt "Cart McCoy", even after they get rolled. Or barely become bowl eligible, get owned by Texas, and then insist on calling us TU or sips. It is a pathetic loser joke that is only funny to you. The exact same thing came today on SR610 when callers would call in and make fun of VY, as if we had won the game. This use of stupid nicknames and blanket hate for Vince must end -- it comes off as a LOSER AGGIE mentality.

This is important for you all to know. It is okay to be both a UT fan, and a Texans fan. Even though I will always have a soft spot for VY, I still pull for the Texans in every game. Yes I want Vince to have a successful career, and no I'm not trying to revisit the 2006 draft after every game. I simply want to enjoy following both of my teams. And the way you all come off makes it exceptionally difficult to be a part of this fan base.

So please. Support your team. Rep your favorite player. But enough with the pathetic hate. It makes all of us look bad.

Here you go, Happy Thanksgiving:

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It's very simple.

Be a fan of the uniform. Be a fan of the name on the front of the jersey, not the back. That doesn't necessarily mean you have to hate the name on the back, just hate the name on the front.
 
Dear Texans fans,

I would like to start this thread by saying that I am a die hard Texans fan. I have been around since the first draft, since the naming of the team, watching all drafts, preseason games, showing up at training camp, going to games, rewatching games, etc.

That said, it is extremely difficult to continue to be a Texans fan. And it is not because of the loss last night - that was rough but we will overcome it. My problem is with our fans. There is just entirely too many of you who can't help yourselves from coming across as perennial loser, jealous because he beat you in college, blind hatred for Vince Young AGGY. All this V Cry stuff, and 1 sack from quitting on his team bullshit? It reeks of pathetic aggy loserdom. I know that not everyone on this board is a UT grad, but it is time to let go of your decade of losing ways. It's the same thing with how they call Colt "Cart McCoy", even after they get rolled. Or barely become bowl eligible, get owned by Texas, and then insist on calling us TU or sips. It is a pathetic loser joke that is only funny to you. The exact same thing came today on SR610 when callers would call in and make fun of VY, as if we had won the game. This use of stupid nicknames and blanket hate for Vince must end -- it comes off as a LOSER AGGIE mentality.

This is important for you all to know. It is okay to be both a UT fan, and a Texans fan. Even though I will always have a soft spot for VY, I still pull for the Texans in every game. Yes I want Vince to have a successful career, and no I'm not trying to revisit the 2006 draft after every game. I simply want to enjoy following both of my teams. And the way you all come off makes it exceptionally difficult to be a part of this fan base.

So please. Support your team. Rep your favorite player. But enough with the pathetic hate. It makes all of us look bad.

I think that alot of Texans fans have a bias against Vince and Reggie becuase we want Mario Williams to be the CLEAR #1 player out of that draft which is understandable.

I just dont understand when people say "I hate Vince because he is a Titan!" but are fans of Manning of the Colts because "He makes funny commercials."

I also feel that if Peyton Manning had come out in the 2006 draft, gone to the Colts, and we took Mario Williams again, we would have as muchof a hatred towards Manning because we want our team to look like the smart team that took the right player.

Its whatever. People will think what they want to think about Vince. And that is their right. But starting a thread telling people how to feel about a player is not going to earn you any points.

I was in the camp that wanted VY and I dont care who knows. I was fed up with DC and needed a fresh start. But I am more than happy with how Mario has turned out so far and will support him (Hence buying his jersey and not buying vinces) but that doesnt mean I am going to call Vince names and make fun of him.

To illustrate my point, here is a cat playing with a ball of yarn.

:kitten:
 
Why are we already giving up hope?

IF Tennessee beats the Colts, then we've only got to wait for them to lose 4 more games, & We've got to win out.

If they win, We've still got to win out, plus they would have to lose 5 games for us to match their record.

Every Colts loss helps us from here on out.

However "impossible" it may be, I believe in playing to win the division, until it is mathmatically impossible.. then play for a wild-card.

If Tennessee beats Indy, then we beat Indy, then Jacksonville beats Indy... we would have the same divisional record as Indy, if we go on to beat the Jags as well.

They are playing to go 6-0 down the stretch (obviously), but it's not even funny how unrealistic it is to believe the Colts are going to go from 10-0 to finishing 10-6 or 11-5. Yeah, the Broncos can go from 6-0 to straight down the toilet (and Indy plays them later this year BTW), but their 6-0 start came out of nowhere, while Indy's 10-0 start is absolutely who they are. Keep in mind that this is the franchise that's won 12 games or more for 6 seasons in a row, and as opposed to the Texans going 6-0, it's not anything that the team has any control over beyond the single game they go head-to-head against them. Yeah, eventually, everything ends, and sometime the Colts will win fewer than 12 games in a season, but it's not going to be in a season in which they start 10-0.

We are far better off hoping Indy beats the teams we would be competing against for a wild-card berth, than holding out for some pipe-dream of a division title.
 
I was in the camp that wanted VY and I dont care who knows. I was fed up with DC and needed a fresh start. But I am more than happy with how Mario has turned out so far and will support him (Hence buying his jersey and not buying vinces) but that doesnt mean I am going to call Vince names and make fun of him.

To illustrate my point, here is a cat playing with a ball of yarn.

:kitten:

I'm right there with you, I wanted us to draft Vince Young as well. If player A wears a Texans uniform and player B does not, then I don't give a frak what their name is, I'm cheering for player A and hope player B has a horrible season. If at some point player A is traded for player B, then I switch loyalties just as fast as they do their uniforms.
 
We are far better off hoping Indy beats the teams we would be competing against for a wild-card berth, than holding out for some pipe-dream of a division title.

Not to mention we are only one game ahead of Tennessee.

good point.
 
I have deleted a number of posts. Let's keep the direct name calling to our head movies and not on our beautiful Texans Talk tapestry.
 
This is important for you all to know. It is okay to be both a UT fan, and a Texans fan.

DUH!!!

Be a fan of the uniform and support the name on the front of it - NOT the name on the back of it.


With that said, VcrY can drink Patron and show his nipples at sausage parties.
 
VY how do I love thee
Let me count the ways

I love thee more than your test score
I love thee than the number of bullets in your 44
I love thee more than a room full of sweaty shirtless men
I love thee more than the stupid tatoo on your back V. Young 10
I love you because you were a longhorn and a Marlin
I love you because you are my man and I be your darlin'
I love thee and your ever so spicy Kroger sausage
I love three like a mustache loves its Goose Gossage
I love thee despite the fact that you are so overrated
I love thee so much I wish we had dated
All you do is win despite your poor play
You are my Adam Lambert
and I am your gay
 
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