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How are we going to stop Chris Johnson?

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TheRealJoker

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He's gained 100 yards rushing for his fourth consecutive game and went over 100 yards both rushing and receiving against the Bills. He shredded our defense last time out but our D looks much improved now. Its time we find out just how much improved.

If we shut down CJ, we shut down the Titans. They've won 3 in a row but they still have the same strengths and weaknesses as a team. With Vince in at QB they are playing more to their strengths which is the running game and getting CJ the ball more overall which imo is key to their 3 game winning streak. But they're still suspect in pass defense and I see no reason why Schaub wouldn't shred their secondary like he did last time.

If our run D shows up and puts on yet another stellar performance and our CBs and OLBs stay home in the flats to take out CJ on the screens then I think we'll have a momentum building victory on MNF!!!

Then hopefully we'll carry that momentum all the way to the playoffs!!!

We've got the bye week to fix our weaknesses as a team and heal up some nagging injuries for some of our players (Mario, Cushing). Plus we've had an extra week of prep to figure out how to slow down that little speedster in Tennessee!!!
 
we wont be able to stop chris johnson.. we just gotta hope that schaub and co. can match then score for score and then hope VY makes some mistakes in the game
 
"The power of Christ compels you! The power of Christ compels you!"


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I don't think it'll be a matter of outscoring them. We have a good enough defense to shut them down. This one will be a field position battle. That means winning the turnover game and forcing them to work for their points. I don't think we'll have trouble moving the ball, we just can't give up easy points like we did in the last one.
 
WE stopped him the last time we played them, except for some long gashes. But we were getting gashed anyway the first 3 games, until Frank Bush modified the scheme, and now were shutting down the run well.

But yes, Chris Johnson is key. The VY nutsack lickers can hum all they want, but I want to see what he can do if the running game is shutdown.
 
I have a feeling Pollard will notice if he is lined up at WR :)

King Cush should be able to provide more Cushing for the pushing if CJ decides to take a screen pass.
 
We can stop CJ and by stop I mean he won't have half the game he had the first time around. For those huge games he's had against bad teams mostly...he's had some mediocre games to go along with it. We all are aware of the difference in our defense compared to week 2 and CJ hasn't seen it for himself yet, but he should be prepared to be reaquainted.

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It will be hard to shut him down completely, but our defense is much improved and we can hold the huge plays at the least, which will mean good things for us.
 
Whats the record for average yards per carry for a RB for a season? This kid is averaging close to 7 yards every time he touches the ball. Thats amazing, and better than most college athletes.

I can't believe everyone made fun of the Titans for drafting him in hte 1st. Can you imagine if a team had picked him up in the 2nd or 3rd
 
I watched the whole Titans/Bills game.

Here's the three main ways they used Chris Johnson:

1. Screen passes. With VY back there, you have to choose whether you send the house to get to VY...or, do you maintain discipline and watch the edges for the screen pass to Chris Johnson? But even maintaining edge discipline is scary because VY could just run to the opposite side of the field and burn you.

That's why I hate this MNF game: VY sat and sat and sat, and the team wilted so badly under Kerry Collins that it gave VY the confidence boost to get out there and start playing the way he had been. Plus, they now have Chris Johnson who completely throws a monkey wrench into the game-planning against VY.

2. The freaking OPTION play. They line VY over center, mis-direction at the snap with VY reversing his direction and running an option with Chris Johnson waiting for the pitch. The Bills ran up and tackled VY but not before he pitches VERY wide to Chris Johnson who is already running at about 75% throttle at that point. Turns on the jets, and he's busting off a big play.

Good luck to our defense trying to figure this one out. Because VY could easily call (in the huddle) a fake option where the TE and WRs fake a run block...VY pulls up and stops running the option...and then takes two steps back and throws the ball since our LBs and DBs are moving up in anticipation of stopping the option run. Just like in college.

3. Chris Johnson lines up as the lone RB, deep behind VY. At the snap, Chris Johnson runs a huge "circle" pass route where he goes around the end of the tackle and then circles his way in-between the LBs and the DBs as the WRs and TEs then begin blocking the LBs and DBs.

They are calling some pretty nice plays for VY and CJ, which exploit the over-pursuit of the defense while minimizing the need for VY to recognize coverages.

When VY threw the ball vs. Bills, he did well IF it was a very short throw to a very open WR--Something like a check-down that Carr was in the habit of doing. VY missed a very easy TD throw to Crumpler. He also overthrew his WR and got it picked by Baird who read VY the whole way, with VY failing to remember that you can't lock your eyes onto one guy from start-to-finish.

So what we have, IMO, is an offense built around putting the ball into Chris Johnson's hands any way they can. And using VY not in the traditional role of a pure pocket passer, but rather in the role of the college QB who dares teams to come up and get him while then dumping off to screens or option runs to exploit the over-pursuit.

I hope Cushing is on his game. We need him to shadow VY and basically make VY always be thinking "Where is Cushing?" at all times during each play.

This game, IMO, just got a whole lot more interesting than it looked during week 4.
 
GP said:
That's why I hate this MNF game: VY sat and sat and sat, and the team wilted so badly under Kerry Collins that it gave VY the confidence boost to get out there and start playing the way he had been. Plus, they now have Chris Johnson who completely throws a monkey wrench into the game-planning against VY.
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Trying to decide when a QB is ready to start, is not a decision I would want to make. How long do you think the Patriots would have stuck with the Pro-Bowler who got them to the SuperBowl (did they win??) had Brees & their other back up (Rob Johnson??) didn't get hurt?

Brady would have been a "career" back-up who may not even be in the league now.

While I think it made sense to start Vince when they did orginally.... Collins wasn't getting the job done.... I don't think he was ready for all that hype, and the pressure of trying to live up to "the game" performance at the pro-level.

Sitting a year watching Collins play well probably helped him more than anything.

He still sucks right now.... but after Collins took the team to a 13-3 record by playing smart, and not making ungawdly high-light reel plays.... he won't feel that pressure, and just play the game.

A game where only the W matters...... don't worry about what the commentators, the hangers-ons, & the jerks on Texanstalk.com say.

He's got plenty of time to become VY...
 
gtexan02 said:
I can't believe everyone made fun of the Titans for drafting him in hte 1st. Can you imagine if a team had picked him up in the 2nd or 3rd
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My memory isn't worth crap... but I thought the humor was about picking up CJ even though they just grabbed Lendale White the year before. I think it was more about White, than Johnson.
 
thunderkyss said:
My memory isn't worth crap... but I thought the humor was about picking up CJ even though they just grabbed Lendale White the year before. I think it was more about White, than Johnson.
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They got Lendale, Chris Henry, and CJ in 3 consecutive years. They used 2nd round picks on the first 2 and then a 1st on CJ. I think people were making fun of how much they were investing in the RB position. The only bust of the group was Henry though so its hard to argue IF you have the OL already figured out to get plenty of capable RBs.

The lack of a running game is going to make it hard for us to finish close games this year. Hopefully next year we invest heavily in a true feature back and some interior OL help. I hope Caldwell develops and one of the other guards sticks around, but I would really like to find someone better than Chris Meyers at center. When we take care of that we'll be able to get a yard when we need to and win the close games and/or run out the clock to prevent another Colts comeback victory :)

PS: Did anyone else move interior OL/RB to the top of their Texans needs board after we went 3 and out after Pollard's 2nd INT in the 4th quarter with a 4 point lead. We then gave the ball right back to Peyton and the Colts got the game deciding td. Imagine if we had the ability to run out the clock...

If you didn't. I expect its because you already had it up there after the Jags/Cards 1 yard and a cloud of fail fiascos.
 
easier said than done but this time DeMeco must account for VY @ all times so the rest of the defense can come together & stop CJ :aggressive:
 
You do not stop CJ you only stop the huge plays or try to. CJ is going to do his thing just don't give up many big gains and you will be just fine. CJ isn't going to win the game the Titans are as a team and what that means is you shutdown every player besides CJ and you should win the game. The key word being should all the have to do is use the tools they are known for having such as the pass and an improved D. I look for our run game get going early on in the game hopefully but as far as the D is concerned everyone juist stay alert out there and no missing silly tackles. I look for the team to come out fired up next Monday night after coming close to win in Indy for the first time ever in franchise history. This is their chance to go out on MNF in front of the entire nation what we have been seeing all season long that slowly but surely we are becoming for real and a true force in the AFC South once and for all. We aren't quite the laughing stock of the NFL that we once were anymore bottom line. GO TEXANS BEAT THOSE MEATBALLS ON PRIMETIME TV
 
VY and CJ are no different (and may be worse) than Vick + Warrick Dunn were back in the day. Poor Crumpler, ironically, going from one situation to the exact same one later on.

Vick is and was faster than VY and Dunn was just a tad slower than CJ.

I don't think it will be difficult to gameplan for them. I hope they try the option. Our LBers are very fast. The Bills run defense is terrible, Moats had close to the same yardage that CJ did
 
Chris johnson reminds me of deion. He's not great. Just has GOD GIVEN speed. VY is an afterthought. CJ is the key to the win streak. We have done well against the run but now is the time to step up against the best rb in the league.
 
You know what. Living here in Austin, at this point, I'm focused on shutting down Rudy.

I am so freaking tired of the leg humping, jock swinging, mouth breathing yocals who keep calling for the Hootinanies to be on TV over the Texans.

Seeing the score today and the fact that now sausage boy has been ON the team (I refuse to say LEAD the team) to 3 straight wins only fuels my never ending hatred for the Hoot's.

I am not calling for some illegal hit or career ending injury. But, if MW plants him so friggin hard that he has to leave the game, I am satisfied regardless of what C. Johnson does.

I'd even take a loss as long as that **** sausage boy Rudy looks like ****.:voodoo:

Sorry.

I know what I have said may make no sense in regards to making the playoffs. I have stated before, I can debate and be level headed about any opponent, accept the Hoot's from Bumblescum Mountain. I'm blinded by hatred for them and only hope the worst for that franchise now and forever!

If the Hoot's beat us on MNF, I literally may need to seek professional help.

If the sausage king looks like a friggin hall of famer AND the Hoot's win, hell, I may just need to stop watching football. (JK) My blood pressure is already too high for my age.

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I think the best thing to do is make sure you pop him . Get three good hits on him every time he touches the ball and take the starch out of him .

As far as Vince goes , get a big lead . VY has put life in the Titans but the last two games their defense sealed the deal with a TD .
 
TheRealJoker said:
He's gained 100 yards rushing for his fourth consecutive game and went over 100 yards both rushing and receiving against the Bills. He shredded our defense last time out but our D looks much improved now. Its time we find out just how much improved.

If we shut down CJ, we shut down the Titans. They've won 3 in a row but they still have the same strengths and weaknesses as a team. With Vince in at QB they are playing more to their strengths which is the running game and getting CJ the ball more overall which imo is key to their 3 game winning streak. But they're still suspect in pass defense and I see no reason why Schaub wouldn't shred their secondary like he did last time.

If our run D shows up and puts on yet another stellar performance and our CBs and OLBs stay home in the flats to take out CJ on the screens then I think we'll have a momentum building victory on MNF!!!

Then hopefully we'll carry that momentum all the way to the playoffs!!!

We've got the bye week to fix our weaknesses as a team and heal up some nagging injuries for some of our players (Mario, Cushing). Plus we've had an extra week of prep to figure out how to slow down that little speedster in Tennessee!!!
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Give him a serious case of Cushlash. He needs to hit him so hard it knocks the gold off his teeth!!!
 
THere is this guy called

Chris Johnson i hope we have a plan to stop him ........ :P
 
TheRealJoker said:
They got Lendale, Chris Henry, and CJ in 3 consecutive years. They used 2nd round picks on the first 2 and then a 1st on CJ. I think people were making fun of how much they were investing in the RB position. The only bust of the group was Henry though so its hard to argue IF you have the OL already figured out to get plenty of capable RBs.

The lack of a running game is going to make it hard for us to finish close games this year. Hopefully next year we invest heavily in a true feature back and some interior OL help. I hope Caldwell develops and one of the other guards sticks around, but I would really like to find someone better than Chris Meyers at center. When we take care of that we'll be able to get a yard when we need to and win the close games and/or run out the clock to prevent another Colts comeback victory :)

PS: Did anyone else move interior OL/RB to the top of their Texans needs board after we went 3 and out after Pollard's 2nd INT in the 4th quarter with a 4 point lead. We then gave the ball right back to Peyton and the Colts got the game deciding td. Imagine if we had the ability to run out the clock...

If you didn't. I expect its because you already had it up there after the Jags/Cards 1 yard and a cloud of fail fiascos.
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I watched Chris Johnson in his last college bowl game, and I thought "This is the first time I have seen this guy...but he looks pretty freaking good."
 
My gameplan would be having Pollard and Cushing on short zones on either side of the field with Demeco playing a lot of middle zones. Rushing VY has got to happen. Mario has got to turn it on because I don't think he has this year. 1 deep, E-willie should be enough over the top help against a weak passing game. Gang tackle, don't let the fleet of foot have 1 inch that he doesn't deserve.
 
We need quick scoring from offense to put us ahead and solid tackling from defense. I think linebackers will be the key to stopping Johnson. The DTs will slow him and it is up to Ryans to pop him. His avg should be cut below half; we just do not want to be focused on him and allow someone else to get long score on us.
 
The line has been doing a great job as of late. The interior line has had a tough time in the past getting to the second level against faster LBs (which is why guys like Gary Bracket usually make it difficult for CJ) but they did really well against Patrick Willis as the game wore on in San Fran, so it will be interesting to see what kind of impact Ryans has on the run game.

Does Cushing usually line up on the right or left or is it depending on the offensive formation?
 
Marcus said:
WE stopped him the last time we played them, except for some long gashes. But we were getting gashed anyway the first 3 games, until Frank Bush modified the scheme, and now were shutting down the run well.

But yes, Chris Johnson is key. The VY nutsack lickers can hum all they want, but I want to see what he can do if the running game is shutdown.
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That is like saying that Japan won WW2 except for that whole atomic bomb thing.

I guess the Carr nutsack lickers can hum all they want about the VY nutsack lickers but at the end of the day one guy is a winner and one guy (your guy) is a total loser. you have no credibility marcus so why don't you go lick Carr's sack again. It won't be the first time.
 
GP said:
I watched the whole Titans/Bills game.

Here's the three main ways they used Chris Johnson:

1. Screen passes. With VY back there, you have to choose whether you send the house to get to VY...or, do you maintain discipline and watch the edges for the screen pass to Chris Johnson? But even maintaining edge discipline is scary because VY could just run to the opposite side of the field and burn you.

That's why I hate this MNF game: VY sat and sat and sat, and the team wilted so badly under Kerry Collins that it gave VY the confidence boost to get out there and start playing the way he had been. Plus, they now have Chris Johnson who completely throws a monkey wrench into the game-planning against VY.

2. The freaking OPTION play. They line VY over center, mis-direction at the snap with VY reversing his direction and running an option with Chris Johnson waiting for the pitch. The Bills ran up and tackled VY but not before he pitches VERY wide to Chris Johnson who is already running at about 75% throttle at that point. Turns on the jets, and he's busting off a big play.

Good luck to our defense trying to figure this one out. Because VY could easily call (in the huddle) a fake option where the TE and WRs fake a run block...VY pulls up and stops running the option...and then takes two steps back and throws the ball since our LBs and DBs are moving up in anticipation of stopping the option run. Just like in college.

3. Chris Johnson lines up as the lone RB, deep behind VY. At the snap, Chris Johnson runs a huge "circle" pass route where he goes around the end of the tackle and then circles his way in-between the LBs and the DBs as the WRs and TEs then begin blocking the LBs and DBs.

They are calling some pretty nice plays for VY and CJ, which exploit the over-pursuit of the defense while minimizing the need for VY to recognize coverages.

When VY threw the ball vs. Bills, he did well IF it was a very short throw to a very open WR--Something like a check-down that Carr was in the habit of doing. VY missed a very easy TD throw to Crumpler. He also overthrew his WR and got it picked by Baird who read VY the whole way, with VY failing to remember that you can't lock your eyes onto one guy from start-to-finish.

So what we have, IMO, is an offense built around putting the ball into Chris Johnson's hands any way they can. And using VY not in the traditional role of a pure pocket passer, but rather in the role of the college QB who dares teams to come up and get him while then dumping off to screens or option runs to exploit the over-pursuit.

I hope Cushing is on his game. We need him to shadow VY and basically make VY always be thinking "Where is Cushing?" at all times during each play.

This game, IMO, just got a whole lot more interesting than it looked during week 4.
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This says it all!
Here's to a great game!:)
 
gtexan02 said:
he usually lines up across from the TE
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So strongside or Sam. Bulluck and Thornton stay put...

I'm interested to see how Cushing does against Stewart with the line playing well. That'll be a good match-up for a long time.
 
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Second Honeymoon said:
That is like saying that Japan won WW2 except for that whole atomic bomb thing.

I guess the Carr nutsack lickers can hum all they want about the VY nutsack lickers but at the end of the day one guy is a winner and one guy (your guy) is a total loser. you have no credibility marcus so why don't you go lick Carr's sack again. It won't be the first time.
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Wow, that's a bit harsh.

Geez, SH...next time, be a little more blunt and to-the-point.
 
While thier offense will be different from the last time we met, so will our D. It has to be the best, if not one of the best in stopping the run since week 3.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
That is like saying that Japan won WW2 except for that whole atomic bomb thing.

I guess the Carr nutsack lickers can hum all they want about the VY nutsack lickers but at the end of the day one guy is a winner and one guy (your guy) is a total loser. you have no credibility marcus so why don't you go lick Carr's sack again. It won't be the first time.
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And if going to UT is more important than rooting for your home team since they aren't "your guy" then maybe you need to leave or comeback as Third Titantroll.

All this talk about sack and licking, can we send you a Fat Head of VY bare chested so you can pleasure yourself? - wait, silly question, you already do.

I get having to put up with this crap from Titans' fans, but a purported Texans fan...
 
Second Honeymoon said:
That is like saying that Japan won WW2 except for that whole atomic bomb thing.

I guess the Carr nutsack lickers can hum all they want about the VY nutsack lickers but at the end of the day one guy is a winner and one guy (your guy) is a total loser. you have no credibility marcus so why don't you go lick Carr's sack again. It won't be the first time.
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:backsout:
 
Second Honeymoon said:
That is like saying that Japan won WW2 except for that whole atomic bomb thing.

I guess the Carr nutsack lickers can hum all they want about the VY nutsack lickers but at the end of the day one guy is a winner and one guy (your guy) is a total loser. you have no credibility marcus so why don't you go lick Carr's sack again. It won't be the first time.
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wow. tragedies where thousands of lives were ended and nutsack licking. this post has it all.
 
Wolf said:
better tackling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZsMhi0B3As


not saying Pollard is the savior of this defense but he hasn't hurt us and helped the safety position
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This. Do what we've been doing and the defense will be fine. The offense however must keep up its end of the bargain. If we are ever going to start playing full 60 minute football games this year then this coming Monday night would be an excellent time to start doing it.

Destroy the Titans on MNF, then beat the Colts at home the following Sunday with the same intensity and literally before our eyes this season is IMO saved.

The rest of the way out you have

Jaguars who we owe a butt kicking to.
Seahawks who are 3-6
Rams who are 1-8
Dolphins who we have to beat to help our Wild Card chances
Patriots who might not even be playing starters at this point.

Seriously, the Jaguars will be at home so they have the benefit of 20,000 screaming tarps but we'll be playing them with an actual defense for a change so I think we have a decent chance of winning that game (assuming we can take both the Titans on MNF and the Colts the next week) to go 3-0 following the bye.

That leaves two losers and then a Dolphins team that will either be fading or surging late (who knows, could go either way) and a Patriots team that's traditionally locked their spot up by then. If the Dolphins are fading and the Patriots don't play to win we have an excellent chance of running the table by default but in that case we're looking at the most important two games (maybe three if you count Jacksonville) of the season. It's going to mostly all be won/lost right here.
 
infantrycak said:
And if going to UT is more important than rooting for your home team since they aren't "your guy" then maybe you need to leave or comeback as Third Titantroll.

All this talk about sack and licking, can we send you a Fat Head of VY bare chested so you can pleasure yourself? - wait, silly question, you already do.

I get having to put up with this crap from Titans' fans, but a purported Texans fan...
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purported fan? give me a break.

that being said, when know nothings like Marcus talk about people licking VY's sack, then I gotta point out that he was first in line to help Carr reach a happy ending back in the day. let the record show that he was the first to talk about licking nutsacks.
 
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