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Beerlover Bye Week Mock Draft-

beerlover

Hall of Fame
1) CB Brandon Ghee, Wake Forest, 6'0" 190 Been infatuated with this Demon Deacon defense the past two years & have wished for a significant addition off it & on the Texans so by process of elimination Ghee is it. One thing of note watching Wake is they're taught to create turnovers, this may be the reason why he is such a hitting machine, ala Bernard Pollard this makes the Texans secondary more formidable.

2) RB Toby Gerhart, Stanford, 6'1" 240 After watching him play his combination of size, power & athletic ability is a sight to behold, solid kid & big time future on Sundays. I've changed my stance 360 & agree with rmartin65 Texans need to bulk up @ RB investing a top pick to get the running game jump started.

3) OC J.D. Walton, Baylor, 6'3" 305 He is Center specific, meaning if drafted that is where he is going to play moving Myers to bench. mauler like Studdard, has leadership intangible to step up & make the offensive line calls, tough, intelligent, durable pivot man Gibbs likes.

4) DT Lamarr Houston, Texas, 6'2" 300+ This is a need pick with a very athletic big body for Texans DT rotation, combination yet to be determined, but folks we need help here. Bush would like to get more athletic up front which is to Lamarr's strength, stout against the run with enough speed to force QB hurries.

5) SS/FS Barry Church, Toledo, 6'1" 219 Another strong tackler, can move to the ball in a hurry, has nose for the ball & also forces turnovers, fits Texans aggressive cover skills & strong in run support. I would see him as Pollards back-up adding much needed depth & special teams play as he develops.

6) (aquired via Travis Johnson) TE Tony Moeaki, Iowa 6'3" 252 A threat in passing game, excellent hands/routes with + blocking game. Will Texans come to an agreement with Owen Daniels agent? have no idea coming into labor negoiations (I'm thinking Texans are waiting to see what happens before resiging these key players). regardless this is not a throw away pick, in fact I expect him to be gone in the 4th rd. but this kid will be a player in the NFL for sure.

6) OLB Keenan Clayton, Oklahoma 6'1" 221 Should compete hard in camp for a roster spot. Combine numbers should post better than expected measureables, his ability to cover & force break-ups is on the rise for a reason. An example of a safety who grew into a LB so his ability to cover is better than most linebackers.

7) OG/C Andrew Lewis, Oklahoma State 6'4" 292 Can fill both Guard & Center positions that proverbial versatility. Depth/Need. practice squad possibly, very durable & fits ZBS.

This draft is defense heavy but should give Bush the tools to finish the job.

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badboy

Hall of Fame
I can drink to this. Don't know much about your Toledo guy at FS but Wilson has that position for now so...

Gerhart I really like but am hoping he is there in third. I see this draft as being defensive oriented and deep so maybe he gets pushed down. I think that flavor of the month is the smaller back such as Slaton and Dwyer and Dixon and there is another I can't think of may push Toby down. At least I hope 'cause I don't see Smith drafting a back in 1st or 2nd.
 

JB

Innocent Bystander
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I can drink to this. Don't know much about your Toledo guy at FS but Wilson has that position for now so...

Gerhart I really like but am hoping he is there in third. I see this draft as being defensive oriented and deep so maybe he gets pushed down. I think that flavor of the month is the smaller back such as Slaton and Dwyer and Dixon and there is another I can't think of may push Toby down. At least I hope 'cause I don't see Smith drafting a back in 1st or 2nd.
I think Gerhart may be there in the third and maybe the fourth. Speed is the flavor of the decade and lack of it will push him down.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
I think Gerhart may be there in the third and maybe the fourth. Speed is the flavor of the decade and lack of it will push him down.
I truly hope you are correct as Smithiac may then use a 3rd or 4th on a power back. They never have before.
 

rmartin65

Phil Kessel: Nice Guy. Tries Hard.
1) CB Brandon Ghee, Wake Forest, 6'0" 190 Been infatuated with this Demon Deacon defense the past two years & have wished for a significant addition off it & on the Texans so by process of elimination Ghee is it. One thing of note watching Wake is they're taught to create turnovers, this may be the reason why he is such a hitting machine, ala Bernard Pollard this makes the Texans secondary more formidable.

2) RB Toby Gerhart, Stanford, 6'1" 240 After watching him play his combination of size, power & athletic ability is a sight to behold, solid kid & big time future on Sundays. I've changed my stance 360 & agree with rmartin65 Texans need to bulk up @ RB investing a top pick to get the running game jump started.

3) OC J.D. Walton, Baylor, 6'3" 305 He is Center specific, meaning if drafted that is where he is going to play moving Myers to bench. mauler like Studdard, has leadership intangible to step up & make the offensive line calls, tough, intelligent, durable pivot man Gibbs likes.

4) DT Lamarr Houston, Texas, 6'2" 300+ This is a need pick with a very athletic big body for Texans DT rotation, combination yet to be determined, but folks we need help here. Bush would like to get more athletic up front which is to Lamarr's strength, stout against the run with enough speed to force QB hurries.

5) SS/FS Barry Church, Toledo, 6'1" 219 Another strong tackler, can move to the ball in a hurry, has nose for the ball & also forces turnovers, fits Texans aggressive cover skills & strong in run support. I would see him as Pollards back-up adding much needed depth & special teams play as he develops.

6) (aquired via Travis Johnson) TE Tony Moeaki, Iowa 6'3" 252 A threat in passing game, excellent hands/routes with + blocking game. Will Texans come to an agreement with Owen Daniels agent? have no idea coming into labor negoiations (I'm thinking Texans are waiting to see what happens before resiging these key players). regardless this is not a throw away pick, in fact I expect him to be gone in the 4th rd. but this kid will be a player in the NFL for sure.

6) OLB Keenan Clayton, Oklahoma 6'1" 221 Should compete hard in camp for a roster spot. Combine numbers should post better than expected measureables, his ability to cover & force break-ups is on the rise for a reason. An example of a safety who grew into a LB so his ability to cover is better than most linebackers.

7) OG/C Andrew Lewis, Oklahoma State 6'4" 292 Can fill both Guard & Center positions that proverbial versatility. Depth/Need. practice squad possibly, very durable & fits ZBS.

This draft is defense heavy but should give Bush the tools to finish the job.

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Good draft!
Here are my critiques:

1) I dont know much about Ghee, but I will trust you on this one. I like my hard hitting corners, as long he is at least a decent cover guy, I feel good about this pick.

2) Gerhart-Excellent choice, enough said.

3) Walton- Good choice

4) I like the picking of a DT here, I just dont know which one to pick. I admit to not watching Texas too much (only watched the RRS) but Texas normally churns out some decent players.

5) I like a safety here, but you got the wrong guy. I am in no way a Notre Dame fan, but McCarthy changes games. He is clutch, and great on special teams.

6) I would say only a TE if OD is not re-signed. Moeaki is a good choice, as is the Illinois one. If OD is in fact re-signed, I would look for some OL depth.

6) Oklahoma OLB, good pick. Will play on special teams, no complaints here.

7) Eh, 7th rounder. I am fine with this pick, I cant really make up my mind on who I want. I am always down with OL depth.
 

rmartin65

Phil Kessel: Nice Guy. Tries Hard.
I can drink to this. Don't know much about your Toledo guy at FS but Wilson has that position for now so...

Gerhart I really like but am hoping he is there in third. I see this draft as being defensive oriented and deep so maybe he gets pushed down. I think that flavor of the month is the smaller back such as Slaton and Dwyer and Dixon and there is another I can't think of may push Toby down. At least I hope 'cause I don't see Smith drafting a back in 1st or 2nd.
I think Gerhart may be there in the third and maybe the fourth. Speed is the flavor of the decade and lack of it will push him down.
I am sorry guys, but I just can't see anything past a late second for Gerhart. The man takes over games. I have seen a couple games of his, and in every one he has impressed. I posted this article in another thread, but its worth a look: http://www.stanforddaily.com/cgi-bin/?p=1035761

The stat break down is especially impressive.
 

nunusguy

Hall of Fame
I like the Stanford back, but I dunno if he's a 2nd round value and I'd doubt
Kubiak wouldn't pay that price for a running back anyway, especially one who might end up playing baseball instead of football.
 

TexansSeminole

Hall of Fame
1) CB Brandon Ghee, Wake Forest, 6'0" 190 Been infatuated with this Demon Deacon defense the past two years & have wished for a significant addition off it & on the Texans so by process of elimination Ghee is it. One thing of note watching Wake is they're taught to create turnovers, this may be the reason why he is such a hitting machine, ala Bernard Pollard this makes the Texans secondary more formidable.
Ghee as a first rounder? I haven't been doing a lot of reading on players this year but just from watching WF over the years, Ghee doesn't come across as a first rounder.
 

beerlover

Hall of Fame
Ghee as a first rounder? I haven't been doing a lot of reading on players this year but just from watching WF over the years, Ghee doesn't come across as a first rounder.
interesting that Wake plays FSU this weekend :photos:

like his size, athletic ability, aggressive physical game, they say he compares to Vontae Davis taken in 09 (1st rd.) out of Illinois but reminds me more of Aqib Talib taken 08 (1st rd.) out of Kansas. I feel the Texans will be too tempted if one of the elite corners are still available & lately he has been flashing his NFL skill set focusing more on break-ups in one on one coverage.
 

TexansSeminole

Hall of Fame
interesting that Wake plays FSU this weekend :photos:

like his size, athletic ability, aggressive physical game, they say he compares to Vontae Davis taken in 09 (1st rd.) out of Illinois but reminds me more of Aqib Talib taken 08 (1st rd.) out of Kansas. I feel the Texans will be too tempted if one of the elite corners are still available & lately he has been flashing his NFL skill set focusing more on break-ups in one on one coverage.
He's been a good playeer for awhile, maybe I'm just showing my lack of research this year. He could very well be a first rounder.

We (FSU) have a freshman QB playing for the rest of the year because Ponder is having shoulder surgery.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
Good draft!
Here are my critiques:

1) I dont know much about Ghee, but I will trust you on this one. I like my hard hitting corners, as long he is at least a decent cover guy, I feel good about this pick.

2) Gerhart-Excellent choice, enough said.

3) Walton- Good choice

4) I like the picking of a DT here, I just dont know which one to pick. I admit to not watching Texas too much (only watched the RRS) but Texas normally churns out some decent players.

5) I like a safety here, but you got the wrong guy. I am in no way a Notre Dame fan, but McCarthy changes games. He is clutch, and great on special teams.

6) I would say only a TE if OD is not re-signed. Moeaki is a good choice, as is the Illinois one. If OD is in fact re-signed, I would look for some OL depth.

6) Oklahoma OLB, good pick. Will play on special teams, no complaints here.

7) Eh, 7th rounder. I am fine with this pick, I cant really make up my mind on who I want. I am always down with OL depth.
Ghee is a strong candidate. 6' 190 and a true corner with 4.45 speed with a low of 4.34. He did exceprionally well against Georgia Tech recently. See link
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=74747&draftyear=2010&genpos=CB

I am looking at Mike Neal Purdue DT on my latest mock re-incarnation at round 4. Very strong guy with 5 QB sacks so far with 4.92 speed.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
I am sorry guys, but I just can't see anything past a late second for Gerhart. The man takes over games. I have seen a couple games of his, and in every one he has impressed. I posted this article in another thread, but its worth a look: http://www.stanforddaily.com/cgi-bin/?p=1035761

The stat break down is especially impressive.
RMARTIN65 GOOGLE running back Johnathan Dwyer and compare stats to Toby. The Georgia Tech guy had almost the same article written about him. 6'1" 235 (sound familiar?). 2008 Dwyer rushed for 1395 and averaged 7.5. As of Nov 12th he has gained 1093 @ 6.5 yds per carry. He is reported as "excellent" on play actions (Schaub anyone?) where he does not get the ball but usually draws the defense with him.
 

TexansSeminole

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RMARTIN65 GOOGLE running back Johnathan Dwyer and compare stats to Toby. The Georgia Tech guy had almost the same article written about him. 6'1" 235 (sound familiar?). 2008 Dwyer rushed for 1395 and averaged 7.5. As of Nov 12th he has gained 1093 @ 6.5 yds per carry. He is reported as "excellent" on play actions (Schaub anyone?) where he does not get the ball but usually draws the defense with him.
Well Dwyer plays fullback in the triple option at Georgia Tech. The QB either gives him the ball up the gut, runs a QB follow, or continues the option with a pitch man available. Generally they don't run a playaction, they rarely throw the ball period.

I love Dwyer as a prospect but it is hard to compare his statistics to other RBs because Ga Tech's scheme is so different than what most other teams are doing.
 

beerlover

Hall of Fame
No way Moeaki lasts until the 6th round. The only way he can be shutdown is if a crappy backup freshmen QB is in the game!!!
this is a steal & reason why I put in the disclaimer, "in fact I expect him to be gone in the 4th rd." I was suprised current rankings of eligible College prospects had him listed 5th-6th rd. so had to jump all over it. they key to this pick is what the Texans wind up receiving in exchange for Travis Johnson? I beleive Rick got an escalator clause that would bump him up to the 5th rd. (helps he starts this weekend) so I just wanted to make damn sure the Texans get someone in return to show for it. This pick is also dependant on Owen Daniels contract/rehab. If for whatever reason Daniels is no longer a Texan (sad day indeed) the Texans will have to address this most likely even after drafting two last year, in the draft. Then I would move him up to the 4th because there would be more sense of urgency.
 

kastofsna

Hall of Fame
No way Moeaki lasts until the 6th round. The only way he can be shutdown is if a crappy backup freshmen QB is in the game!!!
really, no WAY it doesn't happen? every year there are dozens of guys who slip into the later rounds and dozens who get drafted way too "early." it's very possible for a 4th rounder to slip to the 6th.
 

rmartin65

Phil Kessel: Nice Guy. Tries Hard.
RMARTIN65 GOOGLE running back Johnathan Dwyer and compare stats to Toby. The Georgia Tech guy had almost the same article written about him. 6'1" 235 (sound familiar?). 2008 Dwyer rushed for 1395 and averaged 7.5. As of Nov 12th he has gained 1093 @ 6.5 yds per carry. He is reported as "excellent" on play actions (Schaub anyone?) where he does not get the ball but usually draws the defense with him.
I actually have watched alot of Georgia Tech, and he is a good back. If you look at the 2010 Runningbacks thread, I have him rated above Gerhart. I think that he is not as physical though, and benefits from the triple option that is ran there.
 
interesting that Wake plays FSU this weekend :photos:

like his size, athletic ability, aggressive physical game, they say he compares to Vontae Davis taken in 09 (1st rd.) out of Illinois but reminds me more of Aqib Talib taken 08 (1st rd.) out of Kansas. I feel the Texans will be too tempted if one of the elite corners are still available & lately he has been flashing his NFL skill set focusing more on break-ups in one on one coverage.
I like Ghee, but I have not seen him mention as a 1st rounder yet. Seeing him going in the 3rd more often than any other round. Until he runs, I would have to call him a reach in the 1st.

Also I am looking for play makers, and Ghee has only one INT in his career. A little lower than a guy with his speed should have.
 

PapaL

Loose Screw
" I've changed my stance 360 & agree with rmartin65 Texans need to bulk up @ RB investing a top pick to get the running game jump started. "

Doesn't changing your stance 360 degrees put you right back where you started? aka Anti-RB? How about doing a 180?

Just thinking out loud...
 

rmartin65

Phil Kessel: Nice Guy. Tries Hard.
" I've changed my stance 360 & agree with rmartin65 Texans need to bulk up @ RB investing a top pick to get the running game jump started. "

Doesn't changing your stance 360 degrees put you right back where you started? aka Anti-RB? How about doing a 180?

Just thinking out loud...
I think he was making fun of Jason Kidd...
 

beerlover

Hall of Fame
" I've changed my stance 360 & agree with rmartin65 Texans need to bulk up @ RB investing a top pick to get the running game jump started. "

Doesn't changing your stance 360 degrees put you right back where you started? aka Anti-RB? How about doing a 180?

Just thinking out loud...


how about 270? after watching Toby dominate USC I'm convinced if the Texans want him they need to use their 1st, so flip RB w/CB maybe Ghee will still be there in the 2nd or Perrish Cox looks pretty good tonight for OSU.
 
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badboy

Hall of Fame
" I've changed my stance 360 & agree with rmartin65 Texans need to bulk up @ RB investing a top pick to get the running game jump started. "

Doesn't changing your stance 360 degrees put you right back where you started? aka Anti-RB? How about doing a 180?

Just thinking out loud...[/QUOTE]I try not to do that very often. Thinking can lead to various problems like headaches & thinking aloud can lose you friends who don't really need to know what you are thinking about their girl friends.
 

beerlover

Hall of Fame
Still bye week so made some adjustments based off this weekends results both College & NFL.

1) RB, Toby Gerhart, Stanford, 6'1" 240 After watching him play his combination of size, power & athletic ability is a sight to behold, solid kid & big time future on Sundays. Type of big, ball control back elite teams covet to control end of games situations like Colts/Patriots last night. Stanford seems to have a very solid OL, they finish their blocking assingments & proficient in both run blocking/pass protection, if that breaks down they have a big mobile, strong QB Andrew Luck that looks like the second coming of Elway throwing on the run outside the pocket or just taking it for the conversion himself. But here is the deal, everybody knows Toby is going to get the rock & still he drives multiple tacklers backwards for an extra 2-3 yards every carry, those extra yards are key to favorable conversions & time of possession. The last two weeks against top 10 teams he has amassed 401 yds. rushing & 6 TD's & gang tackling aside teams cannot stop him. Given the Texans need to improve their run game, complimenting Steve Slaton & Ryan Moats it's a perfect fit.

2) CB, Perrish Cox, Oklahoma State, 6'0" 195 Very difficult to commit to any one cornerback, just know the Texans will be prepared to take the best one available who fits their system. After watching Perrish shutdown Texas Tech & perform at an elite level, came up on the first series of the game to the line of scrimmage & took out the RB als vintage Dunta Robinson technique, the next play he dove & intercepted an underthrown ball in the endzone. Reminds me of Jarirus Byrd, drafted last year out of Oregon, then drafted in the 2nd rd. by Buffalo now leading the NFL with 8 Int's. Both appear to have the skill set to play both corner or safety have good ball anticipation & tackling ability. Does have better speed so I would expect him to play CB next level but he does give you added versatility.

3) OLB, A.J. Edds, Iowa, 6'4" 244 Changed from J.D. Walton because I expect him to be off the board w/combination of doubt Texans would use consecutive 3rd picks on a C/OG. Edds is no small consolation prize, he is one of the premier cover weakside linebackers in the country & compliments what the Texans currently have. Has excellent range & length to shorten field & throwing windows.

4) TE, Tony Moeaki, Iowa 6'3" 252 Based off feedback & my own feelings that Tony will be a legit NFL TE who fits the slot ala Owen Daniels as well inline blocking ability as well downfield I'm not going to submit waiting til later. Owen will be coming off ACL & has a contract yet to be inked so at this writing alot of things are still in the air. As situation evolves Tony could rise higher on my Texan board, David Thomas drafted out of Texas in 06 in 3rd rd. by New England (Acquired by Saints from New England Patriots in exchange for a 2011 seventh-round draft choice) had 5 receptions.

5) DT, Lamarr Houston, Texas, 6'2" 300+ This is a need pick with a very athletic big body for Texans DT rotation, combination yet to be determined, but folks we need help here. Bush would like to get more athletic up front which is to Lamarr's strength, stout against the run with enough speed to force QB hurries. Has two sacks against Baylor, JD aside not his man, but solid game all around with 5 solo tackles 3 for a loss (-14). Tied for 6th on a dominant Texas defense, 5 sacks for 30 yards loss & 2 fumbles recovered.

6) (aquired via Travis Johnson trade w/San Diego) OG/C, Thomas Austin, Clemson, 6'3" 310 If everything goes according to plan Gibbs should be able to complete his OL before retirement. Another ZBS versatile and dependable interior lineman, filling out depth chart. Continue to address the interior of the Texans OL, remember the Texans traded a 6th for Chris Myers somewhere here in the 5th/6th they should fill this need.

6) DE, Arthur Moats, James Madison, 6'0" 250 Trying to find out if he is related to Ryan? Always looking for Dwight Freeney clone, Moats is leading the team in tackles (83) & sacks (11). has non-stop motor against lesser competition which is reason still on the board but reward worth risk here.

7) K, Leigh Tiffin, Alabama, 6'1" 212 One of the top kickers in the country, really respect Chris & think he's a great guy but when the pressure is on he tends to miss key opportunities that can either win or lose games. He did it in Pittsburgh & now Houston. We'll see some big games coming up for Alabama against Florida & possibly beyond if they win so his mettle will be tested @ the highest level.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
Still bye week so made some adjustments based off this weekends results both College & NFL.

1) RB, Toby Gerhart, Stanford, 6'1" 240 After watching him play his combination of size, power & athletic ability is a sight to behold, solid kid & big time future on Sundays. Type of big, ball control back elite teams covet to control end of games situations like Colts/Patriots last night. Stanford seems to have a very solid OL, they finish their blocking assingments & proficient in both run blocking/pass protection, if that breaks down they have a big mobile, strong QB Andrew Luck that looks like the second coming of Elway throwing on the run outside the pocket or just taking it for the conversion himself. But here is the deal, everybody knows Toby is going to get the rock & still he drives multiple tacklers backwards for an extra 2-3 yards every carry, those extra yards are key to favorable conversions & time of possession. The last two weeks against top 10 teams he has amassed 401 yds. rushing & 6 TD's & gang tackling aside teams cannot stop him. Given the Texans need to improve their run game, complimenting Steve Slaton & Ryan Moats it's a perfect fit.

2) CB, Perrish Cox, Oklahoma State, 6'0" 195 Very difficult to commit to any one cornerback, just know the Texans will be prepared to take the best one available who fits their system. After watching Perrish shutdown Texas Tech & perform at an elite level, came up on the first series of the game to the line of scrimmage & took out the RB als vintage Dunta Robinson technique, the next play he dove & intercepted an underthrown ball in the endzone. Reminds me of Jarirus Byrd, drafted last year out of Oregon, then drafted in the 2nd rd. by Buffalo now leading the NFL with 8 Int's. Both appear to have the skill set to play both corner or safety have good ball anticipation & tackling ability. Does have better speed so I would expect him to play CB next level but he does give you added versatility.

3) OLB, A.J. Edds, Iowa, 6'4" 244 Changed from J.D. Walton because I expect him to be off the board w/combination of doubt Texans would use consecutive 3rd picks on a C/OG. Edds is no small consolation prize, he is one of the premier cover weakside linebackers in the country & compliments what the Texans currently have. Has excellent range & length to shorten field & throwing windows.

4) TE, Tony Moeaki, Iowa 6'3" 252 Based off feedback & my own feelings that Tony will be a legit NFL TE who fits the slot ala Owen Daniels as well inline blocking ability as well downfield I'm not going to submit waiting til later. Owen will be coming off ACL & has a contract yet to be inked so at this writing alot of things are still in the air. As situation evolves Tony could rise higher on my Texan board, David Thomas drafted out of Texas in 06 in 3rd rd. by New England (Acquired by Saints from New England Patriots in exchange for a 2011 seventh-round draft choice) had 5 receptions.

5) DT, Lamarr Houston, Texas, 6'2" 300+ This is a need pick with a very athletic big body for Texans DT rotation, combination yet to be determined, but folks we need help here. Bush would like to get more athletic up front which is to Lamarr's strength, stout against the run with enough speed to force QB hurries. Has two sacks against Baylor, JD aside not his man, but solid game all around with 5 solo tackles 3 for a loss (-14). Tied for 6th on a dominant Texas defense, 5 sacks for 30 yards loss & 2 fumbles recovered.

6) (aquired via Travis Johnson trade w/San Diego) OG/C, Thomas Austin, Clemson, 6'3" 310 If everything goes according to plan Gibbs should be able to complete his OL before retirement. Another ZBS versatile and dependable interior lineman, filling out depth chart. Continue to address the interior of the Texans OL, remember the Texans traded a 6th for Chris Myers somewhere here in the 5th/6th they should fill this need.

6) DE, Arthur Moats, James Madison, 6'0" 250 Trying to find out if he is related to Ryan? Always looking for Dwight Freeney clone, Moats is leading the team in tackles (83) & sacks (11). has non-stop motor against lesser competition which is reason still on the board but reward worth risk here.

7) K, Leigh Tiffin, Alabama, 6'1" 212 One of the top kickers in the country, really respect Chris & think he's a great guy but when the pressure is on he tends to miss key opportunities that can either win or lose games. He did it in Pittsburgh & now Houston. We'll see some big games coming up for Alabama against Florida & possibly beyond if they win so his mettle will be tested @ the highest level.
Good job & I'd be very satisfied, but.. still don't see Smithiac drafting a back especially this type in first round. As I posted somewhere last week, Two guys at Walters have Texans taking Jonathan Dwyer in first. I really hope I'm surprised. I like Cox and mentioned him to a visitor from another team about 3 weeks ago. Don't think he will be avail in 2nd for us. I am looking at # 24 for now.

3rd OLB? Not for me thanks. We are set there with three starters and a good back up in Bentley. You can get a good OLB in 6th. Can we do better than DIles? SUre but use the pick better elsewhere. Need to address free safety. I am ok with your DT in 5th but I have Neal from Purdue in 4th. 6'4"302 4.96.

4th I am not going TE here either. Unless Dreesen blows it over the rest of season, I will go with what we have + WRs such as JJ and Walters getting more.

5. I have Austin here and good chance he might be gone. If it goes your way, let's celebrate. He will be an awesome addition similar to Caldwell. He plays all OLine spots too.
 

beerlover

Hall of Fame
Good job & I'd be very satisfied, but.. still don't see Smithiac drafting a back especially this type in first round. As I posted somewhere last week, Two guys at Walters have Texans taking Jonathan Dwyer in first. I really hope I'm surprised. I like Cox and mentioned him to a visitor from another team about 3 weeks ago. Don't think he will be avail in 2nd for us. I am looking at # 24 for now.

3rd OLB? Not for me thanks. We are set there with three starters and a good back up in Bentley. You can get a good OLB in 6th. Can we do better than DIles? SUre but use the pick better elsewhere. Need to address free safety. I am ok with your DT in 5th but I have Neal from Purdue in 4th. 6'4"302 4.96.

4th I am not going TE here either. Unless Dreesen blows it over the rest of season, I will go with what we have + WRs such as JJ and Walters getting more.

5. I have Austin here and good chance he might be gone. If it goes your way, let's celebrate. He will be an awesome addition similar to Caldwell. He plays all OLine spots too.
solid feeback, thanks :beer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOCKIwYzkV0
 

rmartin65

Phil Kessel: Nice Guy. Tries Hard.
Still bye week so made some adjustments based off this weekends results both College & NFL.

1) RB, Toby Gerhart, Stanford, 6'1" 240 After watching him play his combination of size, power & athletic ability is a sight to behold, solid kid & big time future on Sundays. Type of big, ball control back elite teams covet to control end of games situations like Colts/Patriots last night. Stanford seems to have a very solid OL, they finish their blocking assingments & proficient in both run blocking/pass protection, if that breaks down they have a big mobile, strong QB Andrew Luck that looks like the second coming of Elway throwing on the run outside the pocket or just taking it for the conversion himself. But here is the deal, everybody knows Toby is going to get the rock & still he drives multiple tacklers backwards for an extra 2-3 yards every carry, those extra yards are key to favorable conversions & time of possession. The last two weeks against top 10 teams he has amassed 401 yds. rushing & 6 TD's & gang tackling aside teams cannot stop him. Given the Texans need to improve their run game, complimenting Steve Slaton & Ryan Moats it's a perfect fit.

2) CB, Perrish Cox, Oklahoma State, 6'0" 195 Very difficult to commit to any one cornerback, just know the Texans will be prepared to take the best one available who fits their system. After watching Perrish shutdown Texas Tech & perform at an elite level, came up on the first series of the game to the line of scrimmage & took out the RB als vintage Dunta Robinson technique, the next play he dove & intercepted an underthrown ball in the endzone. Reminds me of Jarirus Byrd, drafted last year out of Oregon, then drafted in the 2nd rd. by Buffalo now leading the NFL with 8 Int's. Both appear to have the skill set to play both corner or safety have good ball anticipation & tackling ability. Does have better speed so I would expect him to play CB next level but he does give you added versatility.

3) OLB, A.J. Edds, Iowa, 6'4" 244 Changed from J.D. Walton because I expect him to be off the board w/combination of doubt Texans would use consecutive 3rd picks on a C/OG. Edds is no small consolation prize, he is one of the premier cover weakside linebackers in the country & compliments what the Texans currently have. Has excellent range & length to shorten field & throwing windows.

4) TE, Tony Moeaki, Iowa 6'3" 252 Based off feedback & my own feelings that Tony will be a legit NFL TE who fits the slot ala Owen Daniels as well inline blocking ability as well downfield I'm not going to submit waiting til later. Owen will be coming off ACL & has a contract yet to be inked so at this writing alot of things are still in the air. As situation evolves Tony could rise higher on my Texan board, David Thomas drafted out of Texas in 06 in 3rd rd. by New England (Acquired by Saints from New England Patriots in exchange for a 2011 seventh-round draft choice) had 5 receptions.

5) DT, Lamarr Houston, Texas, 6'2" 300+ This is a need pick with a very athletic big body for Texans DT rotation, combination yet to be determined, but folks we need help here. Bush would like to get more athletic up front which is to Lamarr's strength, stout against the run with enough speed to force QB hurries. Has two sacks against Baylor, JD aside not his man, but solid game all around with 5 solo tackles 3 for a loss (-14). Tied for 6th on a dominant Texas defense, 5 sacks for 30 yards loss & 2 fumbles recovered.

6) (aquired via Travis Johnson trade w/San Diego) OG/C, Thomas Austin, Clemson, 6'3" 310 If everything goes according to plan Gibbs should be able to complete his OL before retirement. Another ZBS versatile and dependable interior lineman, filling out depth chart. Continue to address the interior of the Texans OL, remember the Texans traded a 6th for Chris Myers somewhere here in the 5th/6th they should fill this need.

6) DE, Arthur Moats, James Madison, 6'0" 250 Trying to find out if he is related to Ryan? Always looking for Dwight Freeney clone, Moats is leading the team in tackles (83) & sacks (11). has non-stop motor against lesser competition which is reason still on the board but reward worth risk here.

7) K, Leigh Tiffin, Alabama, 6'1" 212 One of the top kickers in the country, really respect Chris & think he's a great guy but when the pressure is on he tends to miss key opportunities that can either win or lose games. He did it in Pittsburgh & now Houston. We'll see some big games coming up for Alabama against Florida & possibly beyond if they win so his mettle will be tested @ the highest level.
This draft has the rmartin65 seal of approval

1) Keep preaching the Gerhart pick. People will come around.

2) Cox is a good pick, a corner should be the pick. Cox has return value as well.

3) I like Edds, and it would set the LB core up spectacularly. But it is not a need. I would be ok with the pick, but I would prefer OL depth.

4) I feel the same way about Moeki as I did with Edds. Good pick, but not exactly a need. This changes if OD is not re-signed.

5) I like this pick, DT depth is necessary.

6) Good pick, if he is still there.

6) I could go with this pick. I have another small school end on my radar, but Moats is a worthy project.

7) I dont know about the kicker. I know Brown missed that FG, but he has been fairly consistent.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
Do either of you think Thomas Austin is going that low? I have in 5th now and I think that is probably too low. Hope I'm wrong. I think guards will not have the priority this year and that helps us.
 

rmartin65

Phil Kessel: Nice Guy. Tries Hard.
Do either of you think Thomas Austin is going that low? I have in 5th now and I think that is probably too low. Hope I'm wrong. I think guards will not have the priority this year and that helps us.
I dont think that he will, but Guards drop in the draft. I consider this plausible, but unlikely. That is why I am down with the pick and did not make a big deal about it.
 

beerlover

Hall of Fame
Still bye week so made some adjustments based off this weekends results both College & NFL.

1) RB, Toby Gerhart, Stanford, 6'1" 240 After watching him play his combination of size, power & athletic ability is a sight to behold, solid kid & big time future on Sundays. Type of big, ball control back elite teams covet to control end of games situations like Colts/Patriots last night. Stanford seems to have a very solid OL, they finish their blocking assingments & proficient in both run blocking/pass protection, if that breaks down they have a big mobile, strong QB Andrew Luck that looks like the second coming of Elway throwing on the run outside the pocket or just taking it for the conversion himself. But here is the deal, everybody knows Toby is going to get the rock & still he drives multiple tacklers backwards for an extra 2-3 yards every carry, those extra yards are key to favorable conversions & time of possession. The last two weeks against top 10 teams he has amassed 401 yds. rushing & 6 TD's & gang tackling aside teams cannot stop him. Given the Texans need to improve their run game, complimenting Steve Slaton & Ryan Moats it's a perfect fit.

2) CB, Perrish Cox, Oklahoma State, 6'0" 195 Very difficult to commit to any one cornerback, just know the Texans will be prepared to take the best one available who fits their system. After watching Perrish shutdown Texas Tech & perform at an elite level, came up on the first series of the game to the line of scrimmage & took out the RB als vintage Dunta Robinson technique, the next play he dove & intercepted an underthrown ball in the endzone. Reminds me of Jarirus Byrd, drafted last year out of Oregon, then drafted in the 2nd rd. by Buffalo now leading the NFL with 8 Int's. Both appear to have the skill set to play both corner or safety have good ball anticipation & tackling ability. Does have better speed so I would expect him to play CB next level but he does give you added versatility.

3) OLB, A.J. Edds, Iowa, 6'4" 244 Changed from J.D. Walton because I expect him to be off the board w/combination of doubt Texans would use consecutive 3rd picks on a C/OG. Edds is no small consolation prize, he is one of the premier cover weakside linebackers in the country & compliments what the Texans currently have. Has excellent range & length to shorten field & throwing windows.

4) TE, Tony Moeaki, Iowa 6'3" 252 Based off feedback & my own feelings that Tony will be a legit NFL TE who fits the slot ala Owen Daniels as well inline blocking ability as well downfield I'm not going to submit waiting til later. Owen will be coming off ACL & has a contract yet to be inked so at this writing alot of things are still in the air. As situation evolves Tony could rise higher on my Texan board, David Thomas drafted out of Texas in 06 in 3rd rd. by New England (Acquired by Saints from New England Patriots in exchange for a 2011 seventh-round draft choice) had 5 receptions.

5) DT, Lamarr Houston, Texas, 6'2" 300+ This is a need pick with a very athletic big body for Texans DT rotation, combination yet to be determined, but folks we need help here. Bush would like to get more athletic up front which is to Lamarr's strength, stout against the run with enough speed to force QB hurries. Has two sacks against Baylor, JD aside not his man, but solid game all around with 5 solo tackles 3 for a loss (-14). Tied for 6th on a dominant Texas defense, 5 sacks for 30 yards loss & 2 fumbles recovered.

6) (aquired via Travis Johnson trade w/San Diego) OG/C, Thomas Austin, Clemson, 6'3" 310 If everything goes according to plan Gibbs should be able to complete his OL before retirement. Another ZBS versatile and dependable interior lineman, filling out depth chart. Continue to address the interior of the Texans OL, remember the Texans traded a 6th for Chris Myers somewhere here in the 5th/6th they should fill this need.

6) DE, Arthur Moats, James Madison, 6'0" 250 Trying to find out if he is related to Ryan? Always looking for Dwight Freeney clone, Moats is leading the team in tackles (83) & sacks (11). has non-stop motor against lesser competition which is reason still on the board but reward worth risk here.

7) K, Leigh Tiffin, Alabama, 6'1" 212 One of the top kickers in the country, really respect Chris & think he's a great guy but when the pressure is on he tends to miss key opportunities that can either win or lose games. He did it in Pittsburgh & now Houston. We'll see some big games coming up for Alabama against Florida & possibly beyond if they win so his mettle will be tested @ the highest level.
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what we learned tonight against the Titans-
  1. Need a possession back who can also score in the red zone - Toby meets this need
  2. Dunta is playing his last games as a Texan, the second offer if there is one will be much less than the first one - Cox addresses the next most important need
  3. Cushing is a standout SAM we need to bookend him with a standout WIL - Edds is standout in coverage
  4. Without Owens this offense looks lost, maybe its just Schaub, we need Owens or another TE like him, while I like Casey he is still rough & will the Texans pony up & pay Owen coming off ACL?
  5. Instead of spending high picks on the DL lets approach it bottom up & take someone with the talent who is hungry to earn a big contract - Lamarr has been really looking good as of late, not sure he'll still be here but if he is would be excellent pick
  6. Interior Line play is less than good, from penaltys, to allowing too many sacks & inability to create running lanes, another OG needs to be added & sooner rather than later - Thomas Austin is a beast, for a later rd. pick another excellent value.
  7. Pass Rush. Did the Texans have ONE against Tennessee? Again go with a later round pick, take someone on the way up from a smaller school with everything to prove, after 8 years of little to nothing at some point the Texans have got to get lucky - Moats is a bluecollar, high motor kid who competes & produces sacks & TFL's
  8. Sorry but that's end of the line for Chris here as a Texan, two games in a row unable to connect on game ending FG's. Texans need to be accountable & show they are willing to take corrective action - Tiffen is ranked #2 in the country w/25 FG made, 4-5 form 40-49 yards & 1-1 50+
 

LonerATO

All Pro
bump -

what we learned tonight against the Titans-
  1. Need a possession back who can also score in the red zone - Toby meets this need
  2. Dunta is playing his last games as a Texan, the second offer if there is one will be much less than the first one - Cox addresses the next most important need
  3. Cushing is a standout SAM we need to bookend him with a standout WIL - Edds is standout in coverage
  4. Without Owens this offense looks lost, maybe its just Schaub, we need Owens or another TE like him, while I like Casey he is still rough & will the Texans pony up & pay Owen coming off ACL?
  5. Instead of spending high picks on the DL lets approach it bottom up & take someone with the talent who is hungry to earn a big contract - Lamarr has been really looking good as of late, not sure he'll still be here but if he is would be excellent pick
  6. Interior Line play is less than good, from penaltys, to allowing too many sacks & inability to create running lanes, another OG needs to be added & sooner rather than later - Thomas Austin is a beast, for a later rd. pick another excellent value.
  7. Pass Rush. Did the Texans have ONE against Tennessee? Again go with a later round pick, take someone on the way up from a smaller school with everything to prove, after 8 years of little to nothing at some point the Texans have got to get lucky - Moats is a bluecollar, high motor kid who competes & produces sacks & TFL's
  8. Sorry but that's end of the line for Chris here as a Texan, two games in a row unable to connect on game ending FG's. Texans need to be accountable & show they are willing to take corrective action - Tiffen is ranked #2 in the country w/25 FG made, 4-5 form 40-49 yards & 1-1 50+
I think Houston will light it up at the Combine and I think the Texans could snag Graham Gano as a kicker(he must hate the UFL).
 

bah007

Hall of Fame
When the dust settles I think Lamarr Houston will be a third round pick. This is only his second year as a DT so he still has room to grow.
 

rmartin65

Phil Kessel: Nice Guy. Tries Hard.
After seeing KB miss another one to send the game into overtime, I am on the draft a kicker bandwagon as well. Or sign one. Jesus Christ, just get rid of Brown. I dont even want to see him in a Texans uniform next year. I turned off the TV last night when I saw him walk out onto the field. I knew he would miss. I turned off the TV and went to bed. And behold, I woke up this morning, watched Sportscenter, and he missed.

Get a new damn kicker!
 

beerlover

Hall of Fame
Should add: it's wait & see mode in regards to Kubiak/Rick Smith future & how this impacts the draft. Also I expected to have a much higher pick slot instead it looks like we're stuck again @ #15 :kitten:
 
I just can't jump on board with a first round RB. We need defensive help. I've seen Cox play a good handful of times, and he's boom or bust. Most of my friends at OSU don't like him. I don't grade him in the second round either way. Houston is going to jump. I think 3rd round is probably solid. I've seen him play in person a few times and I've seen UT on film plenty. I'm impressed with him. I'm not impressed with Kindle. I don't think Kindle is a first round talent. I'm all for taking a kicker.

My favorite player in the entire draft is McClain from Bama. I would move DeMeco in a heartbeat for this kid, or put this kid at the WILL. I don't care. I would take this guy regardless of anything. I'm calling him the DROY already.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
Should add: it's wait & see mode in regards to Kubiak/Rick Smith future & how this impacts the draft. Also I expected to have a much higher pick slot instead it looks like we're stuck again @ #15 :kitten:
I have dropped us from # 22 to #15 also after last two humiliations. Man, vacation last week was a bummer with 2 losses in one week.
 

WolverineFan

Hall of Fame
I just can't jump on board with a first round RB. We need defensive help. I've seen Cox play a good handful of times, and he's boom or bust. Most of my friends at OSU don't like him. I don't grade him in the second round either way. Houston is going to jump. I think 3rd round is probably solid. I've seen him play in person a few times and I've seen UT on film plenty. I'm impressed with him. I'm not impressed with Kindle. I don't think Kindle is a first round talent. I'm all for taking a kicker.

My favorite player in the entire draft is McClain from Bama. I would move DeMeco in a heartbeat for this kid, or put this kid at the WILL. I don't care. I would take this guy regardless of anything. I'm calling him the DROY already.
Agreed. My favorite players in this draft are Eric Berry and Earl Thomas (if he comes out) then McClain. He is an absolute beast. He lines everybody up on defense and makes all the calls (very impressive for a college LB to be able to do this in Nick Saban's scheme). He also makes all the calls on the fly after the offense makes adjustments to their alignment.

He is the #1 reason that Alabama defense has been stellar the past two seasons. Terrence Cody has had a minimal impact compared to this guy.

However, he is a MLB pure and simple. I wouldn't mind moving Demeco outside to WILL though and placing McClain at MLB. With Cushing at SAM we would have one of the NFL's best LB cores in a matter of years. Kid is a flat out player.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
Agreed. My favorite players in this draft are Eric Berry and Earl Thomas (if he comes out) then McClain. He is an absolute beast. He lines everybody up on defense and makes all the calls (very impressive for a college LB to be able to do this in Nick Saban's scheme). He also makes all the calls on the fly after the offense makes adjustments to their alignment.

He is the #1 reason that Alabama defense has been stellar the past two seasons. Terrence Cody has had a minimal impact compared to this guy.

However, he is a MLB pure and simple. I wouldn't mind moving Demeco outside to WILL though and placing McClain at MLB. With Cushing at SAM we would have one of the NFL's best LB cores in a matter of years. Kid is a flat out player.
Would you be ok with Reeves on one side and Quin on other with FS Thomas on Quin's side? I think DR is out of here.
 

WolverineFan

Hall of Fame
Would you be ok with Reeves on one side and Quin on other with FS Thomas on Quin's side? I think DR is out of here.
Reeves is a very underrated CB. He has very good coverage skills, but terrible ball skills. Quin has been very impressive early on. Preferably we would take Joe Haden and Reeves would play in the nickel where his skills are more utilized. Either way if we could get either Haden, McClain, or Thomas (heard he's not coming out though) then I would be happy.

With Haden we get a lockdown CB, but ignore our need at Safety.

With McClain we ignore our needs in the secondary, but begin to create the best LB core in the league with Cushing, Ryans, & McClain.

With Thomas we suddenly have 2 very good safeties with him and Pollard, but we ignore our need at CB.

However, any of these scenarios instantly improves our defense and I'm a defensive guy so I love that.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
Reeves is a very underrated CB. He has very good coverage skills, but terrible ball skills. Quin has been very impressive early on. Preferably we would take Joe Haden and Reeves would play in the nickel where his skills are more utilized. Either way if we could get either Haden, McClain, or Thomas (heard he's not coming out though) then I would be happy.

With Haden we get a lockdown CB, but ignore our need at Safety.

With McClain we ignore our needs in the secondary, but begin to create the best LB core in the league with Cushing, Ryans, & McClain.

With Thomas we suddenly have 2 very good safeties with him and Pollard, but we ignore our need at CB.

However, any of these scenarios instantly improves our defense and I'm a defensive guy so I love that.
If we draft around #15 we should be able to get a CB, FS OG and Center as all but Guard are fairly deep. I want a power back and there are not many of them.

Haden CB; Gerhart RB;Mike Johnson OG;Mike Neal DT; Thomas Austin C; Robert Johnson FS/CB (Utah) and Tyler Sash SS covers my needs.
 

mussop

Hall of Fame
If we draft around #15 we should be able to get a CB, FS OG and Center as all but Guard are fairly deep. I want a power back and there are not many of them.

Haden CB; Gerhart RB;Mike Johnson OG;Mike Neal DT; Thomas Austin C; Robert Johnson FS/CB (Utah) and Tyler Sash SS covers my needs.
Every year quality guards fall to the 3rd round an down. I still think we have to go BPA in round 1 and 2 and then possibly we can start filling needs.
 

treduke

Rookie
someone i would love to see the texans draft is terrence cody from alabama!
and i know the trojans are having a down year and he's battled some injuries but i'll still take taylor mays if he's on the board!
 
Every year quality guards fall to the 3rd round an down. I still think we have to go BPA in round 1 and 2 and then possibly we can start filling needs.
This is usually true, though I was all about taking Brandon Albert in the first round as an OG. Then some morons decided that he would make a great NFL LT. That's working out well. The Chiefs are still looking for an NFL LT and there are talks up here about moving him back to his natural LG spot and drafting a real LT. I thought he had All-Pro potential as an OG. But otherwise, I do agree with your point.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
someone i would love to see the texans draft is terrence cody from alabama!
and i know the trojans are having a down year and he's battled some injuries but i'll still take taylor mays if he's on the board!
Tell me what you like about Cody. I was a big Mays fan early this season but he is having a very average year. He will go in first but I am leaning elswhere with my first and probably just go with Wilson again next year. I am still trying to create a new mock after losing 2 games last week. Let's talk about your Nose Tackle.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
This is usually true, though I was all about taking Brandon Albert in the first round as an OG. Then some morons decided that he would make a great NFL LT. That's working out well. The Chiefs are still looking for an NFL LT and there are talks up here about moving him back to his natural LG spot and drafting a real LT. I thought he had All-Pro potential as an OG. But otherwise, I do agree with your point.
YTF, what can you give me on OG Mike Johnson? I am looking at him in round three. Will he work well in the ZBS if we keep it next year. I am worried about recent info at draftscout.com that was posted yesterday.
 

treduke

Rookie
Tell me what you like about Cody. I was a big Mays fan early this season but he is having a very average year. He will go in first but I am leaning elswhere with my first and probably just go with Wilson again next year. I am still trying to create a new mock after losing 2 games last week. Let's talk about your Nose Tackle.
i dont know if you're trying to pick on the new guy or what but here goes!
cody clogs the middle of one the best defenses in the country! ask any inside lb what his best friend is and they probably tell you a big nasty dt who keeps those hogs busy! he brings as nastiness that honestly the texans could use up front! would love suh or Mccoy from oklahoma but thats wishful thinking! at 6'5 and about 385 i think he needs to lose some weight and work on his lateral quickness cause from watching him the last couple of weeks i think he sometimes stuggles to shed blocks! that's my opinion! i'm not mel kiper or todd mc shay just a guy who watches alot of football!:tv:
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
i dont know if you're trying to pick on the new guy or what but here goes!
cody clogs the middle of one the best defenses in the country! ask any inside lb what his best friend is and they probably tell you a big nasty dt who keeps those hogs busy! he brings as nastiness that honestly the texans could use up front! would love suh or Mccoy from oklahoma but thats wishful thinking! at 6'5 and about 385 i think he needs to lose some weight and work on his lateral quickness cause from watching him the last couple of weeks i think he sometimes stuggles to shed blocks! that's my opinion! i'm not mel kiper or todd mc shay just a guy who watches alot of football!:tv:
No picking intended. If you review my posts I am a draft nut. I change mocks about weekly and am always looking for info. I'll respond on Cody in a bit. Welcome to the jungle.
 

rmartin65

Phil Kessel: Nice Guy. Tries Hard.
If we draft around #15 we should be able to get a CB, FS OG and Center as all but Guard are fairly deep. I want a power back and there are not many of them.

Haden CB; Gerhart RB;Mike Johnson OG;Mike Neal DT; Thomas Austin C; Robert Johnson FS/CB (Utah) and Tyler Sash SS covers my needs.
Now that is a draft I could get behind. Only thing, Sash is a RS Soph, so there is no way in hell he comes out if he is not a first day guy. I would look for a special teamer here, a kicker maybe (if there is one valued high enough), or a linebacker.
 

rmartin65

Phil Kessel: Nice Guy. Tries Hard.
i dont know if you're trying to pick on the new guy or what but here goes!
cody clogs the middle of one the best defenses in the country! ask any inside lb what his best friend is and they probably tell you a big nasty dt who keeps those hogs busy! he brings as nastiness that honestly the texans could use up front! would love suh or Mccoy from oklahoma but thats wishful thinking! at 6'5 and about 385 i think he needs to lose some weight and work on his lateral quickness cause from watching him the last couple of weeks i think he sometimes stuggles to shed blocks! that's my opinion! i'm not mel kiper or todd mc shay just a guy who watches alot of football!:tv:
First- Welcome to the board. And its great to see another guy enthused about the draft.

Second- Chill on the exclamation points a little.

Now, to your ideas. Cody is (in my opinion) best suited for the NT in a 3-4. I do not see him having too much of an impact in a 4-3, he is just too slow and unconditioned. It would be great to have a big DT plugging up the lanes, but the DT's in a 4-3 need to get at least a little bit of pressure on the QB. Cody looks like a man amongst boys out there because of his size. I think if you put him against the pros, he becomes very average. He is huge, but there is so much fat. I would be surprised if he lifts 30 reps this combine. Also, the Alabama D is stacked. They have players with pro potential at just about every position. That makes him look better than he is.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
Treduke, Historically I have called for a big NT to stop the run as Kubiac has identified the need to stop the run as a "Priority need" last two seasons but did nothing to address that in last two drafts. Well, he did pick Okam in 4th but that has been a dud. After a weak start to the season, Bush has been able to keep the yards down below 100 for most part and by using "lighter" DTs. Let's look at Terrence Cody. He started 12 games in 2008 and was credited with 24 tackles 7 of which were solo. So far this year he has 22 tackles. A Dlineman averaging only two tackles a game does not float my boat. Yeah, he does clog the middle but how much of Alabama's defensive success is his? I would not give a 2nd for him to be honest. Those big boys usually have a problem keeping the weight down also. To give credit he did block two field goals.
 
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