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Peerless Price could be cut.

texansfan1974

texansfan1974

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Just heard that Peerless Price could be let go from the Falcons. If this happens this would be an awesome sign for us. Our #2 receiver prayers would be answered. :headbang:
 
texansfan1974 said:
Just heard that Peerless Price could be let go from the Falcons. If this happens this would be an awesome sign for us. Our #2 receiver prayers would be answered. :headbang:
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where did you hear this?
 
I agree with you...PP would be the answer to our 2nd reciever prayers...He can run, BLOCK, and Catch...I wonder how much he would cost?
 
Pass. Gaffney, Armstrong or Mathis are all viable #2's. Carr throws to AJ like 60% of the time anyway. Why waste money bringing in a guy who will want to be overpaid to play #2 whenn we already have young players who can satisfiably fill that spot?
 
Pass as well. Unfortunatley the NFL teams are based around a salary cap. I see no need to go and lock up Price with a huge contract considering we will have to award some large contracts next year (Davis, Gaffney, Pitts, etc..). And, pending the left tackle situation this year, we may have to go spending next year on our most apparent problem.
 
PeekFan24 said:
Pass. Gaffney, Armstrong or Mathis are all viable #2's. Carr throws to AJ like 60% of the time anyway. Why waste money bringing in a guy who will want to be overpaid to play #2 whenn we already have young players who can satisfiably fill that spot?
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With respect..I don't agree...

Gaff is not a good blocker...also he takes some plays off...remember the ball dropped going into the endzone?

Armstong has good hands, but he is not a proven player (after all was he not a practice squad guy last year?)...

As far as Mathis goes...Do you really think a late round pick is going to be a #2 his first year?
 
Peerless Price from SI.com and AOL Sports
Atlanta Falcons (NFC) | WR | #81
Ht: 5'11" Wt: 190 NFL Exp: 6 College: Tennessee
Year Games Rec Tds Lg TD
2004 16 45 575 50 3

Doesnt look too bad to me, especially with the run first throw second mentality of M. Vick. If we could get him in here for a one year deal to see how he performs I wouldnt be disapointed at all.... if the $$$ is right that is.
 
HardKnockTexan said:
Peerless Price from SI.com and AOL Sports
Atlanta Falcons (NFC) | WR | #81
Ht: 5'11" Wt: 190 NFL Exp: 6 College: Tennessee
Year Games Rec Tds Lg TD
2004 16 45 575 50 3

Doesnt look too bad to me, especially with the run first throw second mentality of M. Vick. If we could get him in here for a one year deal to see how he performs I wouldnt be disapointed at all.... if the $$$ is right that is.
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BRAVO!!
 
he is an awesome wide reciever but just hasnt had the chance to become great. if he doesnt want a incredible number i dont think we should pass on him. as for gaffney, he just sucks. mathis and armstrong should be infront of him
 
IMO, "Peerless" Price proved he is "anything but" the past couple years. He is extremely overrated and would ask for way more money than he is worth, especially as a #2. Watch and see.
 
HardKnockTexan said:
Peerless Price from SI.com and AOL Sports
Atlanta Falcons (NFC) | WR | #81
Ht: 5'11" Wt: 190 NFL Exp: 6 College: Tennessee
Year Games Rec Tds Lg TD
2004 16 45 575 50 3

Doesnt look too bad to me...
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But Gaffney's numbers do? With the run 1st/pass 2nd mentality of Dom Capers?

Gaffney in '04
Year Games Rec Tds Lg TD
2004 15 41 632 69 2

And Gaffney got his with 38 fewer targets. These guys careers are going in opposite directions. This Price is wrong.
 
Caw Daddy said:
as for gaffney, he just sucks. mathis and armstrong should be infront of him
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Mathis? How:
Games-0
Receptions-0
Yards-0
Touchdowns-0

Mathis hasn't proved anything yet, Jabar has.
 
TEXANS84 said:
Mathis? How:
Games-0
Receptions-0
Yards-0
Touchdowns-0

Mathis hasn't proved anything yet, Jabar has.
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Right 84!! Jabar has proven himself to be a good #3...We can do better at #2...PP would be a significant upgrade. Remember Vick runs first and throws second, therefore, PP's numbers are lower then when he was with the Bills....
 
titan hater said:
...PP's numbers are lower then when he was with the Bills....
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Prices's numbers are down because he's not as good as he was with the Bills. In fact, Price only had 1 good season (2002). He's extremely overrated and the Falcons have known this since he 1st stepped on the field for them. Don't you find it odd that Atlanta has used 1st round picks on WRs in back-back drafts? Price is no longer even a good #2 WR.
 
You can always tell the uneducated football fans from the educated ones. Uneducated fans always get excited about "big names", usually the skill position players, and generally undervalue those players that aren't big names because it would require a discerning eye in order to identify their talents.

Therefore, Armstrong and Gaffney are dismissed by these fans because their raw numbers are less than Price's... that's in the face of the fact that both Wrs catch a higher percentage of balls thrown to them and the fact that they are entering what should be their prime while Price is leaving his.

Fans like this are screaming for an organization like the Daniel Snyder run Washington Redskins. Fortunately, our organization doesn't listen to their voices.
 
From nfl.com

After internal discussions about what to do with wide receiver Peerless Price, the Falcons have decided to try to keep him on the roster and restructure his contract. Talks already are underway, and both sides have incentive for finalizing the deal.

Price wants to stay in Atlanta and continue working for the upstart franchise. The Falcons want to keep Price, who has had worked hard this offseason by getting in great shape and catching most every pass thrown his way. Now the two sides need to come to an agreement on what to do with Price's base salary. It seems likely that Price will provide the Falcons with some cap relief for the chance to remain in Atlanta.
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Caw Daddy said:
he is an awesome wide reciever but just hasnt had the chance to become great. if he doesnt want a incredible number i dont think we should pass on him. as for gaffney, he just sucks. mathis and armstrong should be infront of him
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Did you watch the first Tennessee game last year? Gaffney dominated that game. He made 2 catches more outstanding than anything I've seen from Peerless Price. Gaffney is exceedingly reliable. He's young. He's not injury-prone and he's been with this offense and David Carr for three years. What you said is ridiculous. Have you even seen Mathis play?

I do agree, though, that Armstrong looks like a heck of a WR also. Of course that's just one more argument that we don't need to waste money on PRice.
 
texansfan1974 said:
Just heard that Peerless Price could be let go from the Falcons. If this happens this would be an awesome sign for us. Our #2 receiver prayers would be answered. :headbang:
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Domanick Davis is this team's #2 WR :homer:
 
dalemurphy said:
Therefore, Armstrong and Gaffney are dismissed by these fans because their raw numbers are less than Price's... that's in the face of the fact that both Wrs catch a higher percentage of balls thrown to them and the fact that they are entering what should be their prime while Price is leaving his.
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Amazing isn't it?

Based on last year even the raw numbers are unanimously against Price. As a full time starter he got targetted 106 times, dropped 5 and only managed to haul in 45 for 575 yds gaining 1st downs on just 26% of his receptions. Gaffney as a part time starter turned his 68 targets (with just one drop) into 41 receptions for 632 yds and got 1st downs on 50% of his receptions. Heck even Derick Armstrong had more 1st downs than Price. But hey, there is the added benefit of spending more money.
 
The article below that you put on here it was dated 6/3/05. If you look at the rumor mill it is dated 6/6/05 (today). Something must have changed in the last 3 days since this article was posted so this article is outdated.

erickwsmom said:
From nfl.com
From nfl.com

Quote:
After internal discussions about what to do with wide receiver Peerless Price, the Falcons have decided to try to keep him on the roster and restructure his contract. Talks already are underway, and both sides have incentive for finalizing the deal.

Price wants to stay in Atlanta and continue working for the upstart franchise. The Falcons want to keep Price, who has had worked hard this offseason by getting in great shape and catching most every pass thrown his way. Now the two sides need to come to an agreement on what to do with Price's base salary. It seems likely that Price will provide the Falcons with some cap relief for the chance to remain in Atlanta.
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dalemurphy said:
You can always tell the uneducated football fans from the educated ones. Uneducated fans always get excited about "big names", usually the skill position players, and generally undervalue those players that aren't big names because it would require a discerning eye in order to identify their talents.

Therefore, Armstrong and Gaffney are dismissed by these fans because their raw numbers are less than Price's... that's in the face of the fact that both Wrs catch a higher percentage of balls thrown to them and the fact that they are entering what should be their prime while Price is leaving his.

Fans like this are screaming for an organization like the Daniel Snyder run Washington Redskins. Fortunately, our organization doesn't listen to their voices.
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Finally, someone else posting the truth. People, the NFL is not like Madden or NFL2K5... Everyone is like, "Ooh, big name player! Sign him! Sign him!" Peerless Price was a good #2 in Buffalo for ONE season. He has been on the decline ever since. Look at the numbers, first and foremost. Jabar had a better season than him last year, and some could make the argument that on many levels so did Derick Armstrong. Peerless Price is OVERRATED, please move on. Let's address some real issues for this team, like Center and Tight End.
 
titan hater said:
With respect..I don't agree...

Gaff is not a good blocker...also he takes some plays off...remember the ball dropped going into the endzone?

Armstong has good hands, but he is not a proven player (after all was he not a practice squad guy last year?)...

As far as Mathis goes...Do you really think a late round pick is going to be a #2 his first year?
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while i dont disagree Price might be something we should look into, it would only be if it were maybe a two year contract, so we dont rush mathis if he isnt ready, but word outta camp is that he is impressing the coaches.... Gaff dropping the ball isnt taking the play off, he just made a mental error, and probably wont ever do that again.... armstrong was on our roster, he was a slot receiver, and he might have played some opposite AJ
 
infantrycak said:
Amazing isn't it?

Based on last year even the raw numbers are unanimously against Price. As a full time starter he got targetted 106 times, dropped 5 and only managed to haul in 45 for 575 yds gaining 1st downs on just 26% of his receptions. Gaffney as a part time starter turned his 68 targets (with just one drop) into 41 receptions for 632 yds and got 1st downs on 50% of his receptions. Heck even Derick Armstrong had more 1st downs than Price. But hey, there is the added benefit of spending more money.
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I am not saying gaff is horrible...IM saying he is a #3 not a #2. Vick runs first and throws second...This is the main reason why PP's numbers are down. He runs better routes and blocks better. He is just a better reciever than Gaff!! Of Course...(with my appologies to DALEMURPHY) that is my UNEDUCATED way of thinking. (I dunno, Ma!! Maybe we otta pert ner git onather reciever for them there Tex-i-cans!!)

Armstrong has great hands...speed is the issue with him.

Mathis is a late round rookie...should he be #2?

Bradford...nuff said!!!
 
Yes, Atlanta is run first, pass second. But, Price still got TARGETED 106 times and only hauled in 45 for 575. Gaffney was TARGETED 68 times and caught 41 for 632. So, Gaffney had 38 FEWER passes thrown at him, only caught 4 LESS than Price, and still got more yardage...not to mention a 50% First Down ratio. Price is overrated...I would take Gaffney over him any day of the week.
 
Price succeeded in BUF b/c he was a #2 WR w/ Moulds drawing the doubles. (He also had a pocket passer.) Then ATL offered up the dough, he bolts, and now he's the #1 WR seeing the doubles. All with a running QB and without a viable #2 WR. Bad, bad spot for him, IMO. AJ would take all the defensive pressure off of him that Moulds did (if not more.) I think he'd fit in well here.

If cut, bring him I say. Then when we cut Matt Murphy, he can have his #81.
 
PeekFan24 said:
Yes, Atlanta is run first, pass second. But, Price still got TARGETED 106 times and only hauled in 45 for 575. Gaffney was TARGETED 68 times and caught 41 for 632. So, Gaffney had 38 FEWER passes thrown at him, only caught 4 LESS than Price, and still got more yardage...not to mention a 50% First Down ratio. Price is overrated...I would take Gaffney over him any day of the week.
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You also have to remember that Carr is a better passing QB than Vick. Carr last year completed 61% of his passes while Vick only completed 56%. I would love to see Price here as the Texans #2 and keep Gaffney at #3.

Gaffney doesn't have the speed to play on the outside and belongs in the slot.
 
texanfan2002114 said:
You also have to remember that Carr is a better passing QB than Vick. Carr last year completed 61% of his passes while Vick only completed 56%. I would love to see Price here as the Texans #2 and keep Gaffney at #3.

Gaffney doesn't have the speed to play on the outside and belongs in the slot.
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You hit the nail on the head...Good Post!!
 
From Price's CBS Sportsline player page:

According to reports, Peerless Price might be forced to retire because of an inoperable retinal condition. The Falcons discovered the problem last season but believed the disorder was treatable.
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because of this, Price gets a big :thumbdown from me...
 
Master Po said:
Price succeeded in BUF b/c he was a #2 WR w/ Moulds drawing the doubles. (He also had a pocket passer.) Then ATL offered up the dough, he bolts, and now he's the #1 WR seeing the doubles. All with a running QB and without a viable #2 WR. Bad, bad spot for him, IMO. AJ would take all the defensive pressure off of him that Moulds did (if not more.) I think he'd fit in well here.

If cut, bring him I say. Then when we cut Matt Murphy, he can have his #81.
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He had a very good season 4 years ago!! Gaffney had a good sophmore year in college that same season!

Someone doesn't get resigned or we miss out on a free agent next year if we sign Price. Do you really want to add Price to an already strong WRing corp at the expense of something else? Don't you understand what's being said? Gaffney caught 41 balls in 68 attempted passes (61% which is excellent considering he averaged about 15 yards per catch). That is a very good rate. If he starts, he would still see single coverage. He is good. He is not what is holding this team back. Not to mention the fact that Price wouldn't be an answer anyway.
 
something occurs to me....just because we want all these guys......perhaps they dont desire to come here? just a thought
 
the more i think of it, i dont think we need him.. a second rate player, wanting first rate money... pass, so who is the next free agent everyone is going to salivate over?
 
I am not going to pass judgement on Mathis until I see what he can do. The highlights from college do peek my interest in him. In a 4-WR set He would probably play on the outside with Gaff and Armstrong playing inside. My ral question about Mathis is the 3-WR set that we seem to use more often.

PP is officially a castoff from another team if he is released. Just like Shelton he has some sort of baggage that is not in the "brochure". I like Gilligans island as much as anyone, but I don't want the "Skipper" playing LT and Gilligan as WR. :)
 
texanfan2002114 said:
You also have to remember that Carr is a better passing QB than Vick. Carr last year completed 61% of his passes while Vick only completed 56%. I would love to see Price here as the Texans #2 and keep Gaffney at #3.

Gaffney doesn't have the speed to play on the outside and belongs in the slot.
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yea but gaffeny isnt our #2 bradford is, Gaffney is a slot reciever. hes never lined up outside unless it was a all go.
 
Just a general question. Isnt Peerless the Atlanta number one receiver? If that is true, who is their number 2 or 3. It is possible his numbers are down becuase he is targeted becuase there is nobody else there who can take pressure off him. It is also possible he is overrated. I am not sure which.
 
awtysst said:
Just a general question. Isnt Peerless the Atlanta number one receiver? If that is true, who is their number 2 or 3. It is possible his numbers are down becuase he is targeted becuase there is nobody else there who can take pressure off him. It is also possible he is overrated. I am not sure which.
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overrated....that simple.
 
I have no interest in seeing Price in a Texans uniform. We've got all the answers we need at the WR spot right now.

That pretty much goes for most of team. The pieces are here, I wish that time would pick it up a little and we could see them hit the field. I'm tired of waiting and I'm tired of reading the flood of "Oh let's get him!" comments everytime someone's name comes up that the majority of fans recognize.

It's like people are stuck in that whole "we've got nobody" mentality and they can't get past thinking like that. We've had four drafts now plus one expansion draft. We've signed free agents every year since 2002. We have players. We don't need everyones cast offs.
 
If not for Gaffney and Armstrong, we don't be KC in KC. If not for Gaffney, we don't beat Tenn in Tenn, and we don't beat Chicago in Chicago.
 
TopTexanFan16 said:
yea but gaffeny isnt our #2 bradford is, Gaffney is a slot reciever. hes never lined up outside unless it was a all go.
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Gaffney was a number #2 before Andre got here. So yes he has been a #2 and wasn't any good at it.
 
texanfan2002114 said:
Gaffney was a number #2 before Andre got here. So yes he has been a #2 and wasn't any good at it.
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Nobody was any good at anything on the offense that year (our inaugural year). Carr broke the sack record, we had no running game, and Gaff was a rookie starting with a rookie QB and LT. Kind of unfair to put that all on Gaff's shoulders.
 
texanfan2002114 said:
Gaffney was a number #2 before Andre got here. So yes he has been a #2 and wasn't any good at it.
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He was a rookie, playing with a rookie QB, a horrible OL, with Billy Miller and Bradford running routes with him.

The point now is, will Price clearly upgrade what we can do at WR now. I don't think he can: AJ, Gaffney, Armstrong, Bradford, Mathis is a very good WR group.
 
What great receiver replaced Price in Atlanta that they can afford to cut him when they KNOW Vick better learn how to pass the ball (which requires receivers that can get open) if the Falcons want Vick around for an ENTIRE season???

Price is a plug.... For you non-horseman in Texas...a "plug" is a gelding that can not race anymore.

Why was Price cut? "Think" people! He can't be that great...
 
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