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Greetings Texans fans. We don't ever play against you guys (first time since JP Losman's starting debut in 2005, I believe), so I don't know much of what do expect. Here's what I do know:

Matt Schaub is a second tier quarterback who's itching to breakthrough.

He's fortunate to have Daniels and Johnson as both are pass-catching freaks.

Johnson might be out with his chest injury. (No complaints her)

Slaton is young and unreliable, but could be dangerous.

I used to hear a lot about DeMeco Ryans, no so much of late.

Mario Williams is a beast, and we suck on the outside of the OLine, so that might be the difference maker.

So what's the rub, Texans fans? Can your OLine create holes to run against us? We're slim at linebacker, and got absolutely obliterated two weeks ago by the NYJ run attack. Should we be worried about yours?

With rookie Jairus Byrd at safety, our secondary has been airtight. How is your pass protection, and with Johnson potentially out, does this weaken one of your strongest (if not THE strongest) aspects of your game?

Fitzpatrick DEFINITELY makes things harder on defenses than Edwards did. How do you guys expect to cover Evans and Owens, and still be run conscious?

Your special teams- usually you only notice them if they're super good, or super bad. Where does yours fall?

Again, hardly ever see you guys, so I'm just curious what to be looking for come Sunday.

Go Bills!
 
I think we test your secondary more than anyone else, as we have ALOT of weapons. If our ground game gets rolling, it could be a VERY long game. T.O and Evans are worry some, but I'm not to terrible scared. The weather could hinder us alot, since we like the intermediate/deep passing game.
 
Hey we didn't perform too horribly in that Green Bay game last year. Schaub grew up in Penn if I remember correctly, so he's played a few times in the cold. I think we see an improvement in the running game this Sunday as long as Slaton hangs on to the ball. I'd also like to see more of those short check down passes to him, he seems to be doing pretty well with those this year.
 
BillsFan6 said:
Greetings Texans fans. We don't ever play against you guys (first time since JP Losman's starting debut in 2005, I believe), so I don't know much of what do expect. Here's what I do know:

Matt Schaub is a second tier quarterback who's itching to breakthrough.

He's fortunate to have Daniels and Johnson as both are pass-catching freaks.

Johnson might be out with his chest injury. (No complaints her)

Slaton is young and unreliable, but could be dangerous.

I used to hear a lot about DeMeco Ryans, no so much of late.

Mario Williams is a beast, and we suck on the outside of the OLine, so that might be the difference maker.

So what's the rub, Texans fans? Can your OLine create holes to run against us? We're slim at linebacker, and got absolutely obliterated two weeks ago by the NYJ run attack. Should we be worried about yours?

With rookie Jairus Byrd at safety, our secondary has been airtight. How is your pass protection, and with Johnson potentially out, does this weaken one of your strongest (if not THE strongest) aspects of your game?

Fitzpatrick DEFINITELY makes things harder on defenses than Edwards did. How do you guys expect to cover Evans and Owens, and still be run conscious?

Your special teams- usually you only notice them if they're super good, or super bad. Where does yours fall?

Again, hardly ever see you guys, so I'm just curious what to be looking for come Sunday.

Go Bills!
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Welcome and thanks for stopping in. Houston has a long history which you may know through the Oilers but a thread on this MB recently was talking about the Houston Gambler days of the old USFL. You might find that interesting as Bills' former super star Jim Kelly got his start on that team before heading for history making days in the cold North.

1. Schaub stats are sky rocketing almost crazily & as most of his fans hoped, if the Oline can keep him on his feet, he might just be an upper level QB. He is doing better with sailing the ball out of bounds than eating it but last game imo both sacks were his decision. It is helpful that stubborn Gary has allowed the passing game to open as we do not have a RB on roster that can move the ball.

2. Supposedly Johnson will play but he had coughed blood from the now diagnosed "Lung contusion". Personally, I'd have him on sidelines until I knew we could not beat your team without him.

3. Slaton is as you've described. Please tell your team that he no longer fumbles and they can take that off their game plan.

4. Demeco is quietly having an outstanding season. Hype is going to rookie Cushing & rightfully so, but Ryans should have a pro bowl season.

5.Williams coming off and injury but is still significant. We need Smith to crank it up opposite Mario as he was signed to do.

You need to know that we play only 1/2 of a game. It is up to you to figure out which half.
 
Our special teams are probably one of the best units in the league overall.

Our interior O-line play has been horrid in the running game. We lost 2 starters, however.... we have started to show SOME signs of life in the running game here recently. Maybe your D is just the thing we need here.

Our pass protect is decent, and our weapons are all over the place.

AJ will play no doubt.
 
BillsFan6 said:
Greetings Texans fans. We don't ever play against you guys (first time since JP Losman's starting debut in 2005, I believe), so I don't know much of what do expect. Here's what I do know:
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Welcome aboard!!

BillsFan6 said:
Matt Schaub is a second tier quarterback who's itching to breakthrough.
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Second tier quarterback that is leading the league in yards and TD's and is 4th in QB rating.

BillsFan6 said:
He's fortunate to have Daniels and Johnson as both are pass-catching freaks.
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You forgot Kevin Walter, Jacoby Jones, and Andre Davis


BillsFan6 said:
Johnson might be out with his chest injury. (No complaints her)
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Knowing AJ, if there's a chance he can go, he's going.

BillsFan6 said:
Slaton is young and unreliable, but could be dangerous.
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He's fumbling way too much, but I really think our rushing woes are the guards and center positions.

BillsFan6 said:
I used to hear a lot about DeMeco Ryans, no so much of late.
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Same 'ol Meco. Racking up tackles only he's playing second fiddle to Brian Cushing in that regard.

BillsFan6 said:
Mario Williams is a beast, and we suck on the outside of the OLine, so that might be the difference maker.
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Mario will bring it. He's been really good on the run this season.

BillsFan6 said:
So what's the rub, Texans fans? Can your OLine create holes to run against us? We're slim at linebacker, and got absolutely obliterated two weeks ago by the NYJ run attack. Should we be worried about yours?
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We'll be able to run it just enough. I don't think your secondary will prepared for the arial attack y'all will see, though.


BillsFan6 said:
With rookie Jairus Byrd at safety, our secondary has been airtight. How is your pass protection, and with Johnson potentially out, does this weaken one of your strongest (if not THE strongest) aspects of your game?
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Look at Schaub's numbers. Seriously though, he's been sacked 12 times which is middle of the pack. The line is pretty young, really.

BillsFan6 said:
Fitzpatrick DEFINITELY makes things harder on defenses than Edwards did. How do you guys expect to cover Evans and Owens, and still be run conscious?
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We got lit up by Fitzpatrick when he was a rookie ram.

BillsFan6 said:
Your special teams- usually you only notice them if they're super good, or super bad. Where does yours fall?
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We have two threats on special teams KR Andre Davis and PR Jacoby Jones.

BillsFan6 said:
Again, hardly ever see you guys, so I'm just curious what to be looking for come Sunday.

Go Bills!
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What to look for?? :thinking: PAIN!!
 
Welcome Billsfan6. Others have already answered your questions, but my main concern is our running game. We have yet to have a "breakout" ground game this season when it appeared it would be one of our strengths in 2008. Steve Slaton is still a game-breaker in the passing game but appears to be thinking too much when running the ball. Which could be the reason why he's fumbling this year.

Schaub has been terrific in terrible conditions (Packers game last season when the temp. was in the single digits and threw for 400 yards) so I wouldn't count on him coming out flat because he plays for a "warm-weather team". He grew up in PA.

AJ not being at 100%, he'll still own your secondary.

Texans' run defense has been outstanding these past 4 games. Our first three were terrible but all of our regular starters are healthy and are buying into the new defensive coordinator's philosophy. Not a new scheme as the previous coordinator, just more of an attacking style.

Pass defense has improved but was a liability in the second half last game against the 49ers. I'm not really worried about this because it has been pretty decent all season. Both our starting corners are back at full strength. SS Pollard was an absolute steal when the Chiefs released him. FS Eugene Wilson looks for picks.

Consider it a quality win if you guys can beat us because we're playing some pretty good football as of late, but don't hold your breath. :shades:
 
BillsFan6 said:
Greetings Texans fans. We don't ever play against you guys (first time since JP Losman's starting debut in 2005, I believe), so I don't know much of what do expect. Here's what I do know:

Matt Schaub is a second tier quarterback who's itching to breakthrough.

So he's going to improve from #1 in yards and TDs to #0? Is that even possible? Wouldn't the universe implode?

He's fortunate to have Daniels and Johnson as both are pass-catching freaks.

Andre Johnson isn't human.

Johnson might be out with his chest injury. (No complaints her)

Johnson will play.

Slaton is young and unreliable, but could be dangerous.

Other than fumbles our running game is mostly blamed on the O-line. With any room to operate Slaton is really hard to bring down by a single defender.

I used to hear a lot about DeMeco Ryans, no so much of late.

He quietly goes about his business as a great MLB, but his numbers are down because of the two really good OLBs playing next to him stealing all his tackles.

Mario Williams is a beast, and we suck on the outside of the OLine, so that might be the difference maker.

Williams is injured and has been really ineffective as a pass rusher for the past few weeks because of it. He is still an immovable object in the running game.

So what's the rub, Texans fans? Can your OLine create holes to run against us? We're slim at linebacker, and got absolutely obliterated two weeks ago by the NYJ run attack. Should we be worried about yours?

No. The O-line has stunk it up run blocking this year, even against bad run defenses.

With rookie Jairus Byrd at safety, our secondary has been airtight. How is your pass protection, and with Johnson potentially out, does this weaken one of your strongest (if not THE strongest) aspects of your game?

The line gives Schaub a lot of time on most passing attempts, and when they don't he usually gets rid of the ball even with a guy in his face. Even if Johnson isn't in the game the Texans are loaded with targets for him to pass to. Open Daniels, Steve Slaton, Kevin Walter, JJ, and even Dreesen and Davis sometimes.

Fitzpatrick DEFINITELY makes things harder on defenses than Edwards did. How do you guys expect to cover Evans and Owens, and still be run conscious?

Fitzpatrick is terrible, and has been for a long time. He has one good game a year to fool teams into keeping him on the roster, but then he stinks it up. Don't get your hopes up. I imagine they'll cover Evans and TO with a corner. :thinking:

Your special teams- usually you only notice them if they're super good, or super bad. Where does yours fall?

Jones is a great punt returner, but occasionally muffs one when he has to adjust at the last minute. Davis was a good kick returner, but now just runs into the nearest defender.

Again, hardly ever see you guys, so I'm just curious what to be looking for come Sunday.

Go Bills!
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There you go.
 
JB said:
David Anderson?

Great Post TB!

must spread rep
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Anderson isn't all that. He does catch a perfectly thrown football well but I don't think I've ever seen him run after the catch. He's simply too small and completely lacks the strength to shed tacklers.

His locker room presence is tremendous and extremely significant. I'm glad we have him but he's very easily upgradeable.
 
Thanks for all the info, Texans Fans!

Give me an hour or two to respond, because it seems some of you know as little about the Bills as I know about the Texans!
 
NitroHonda said:
Anderson isn't all that. He does catch a perfectly thrown football well but I don't think I've ever seen him run after the catch. He's simply too small and completely lacks the strength to shed tacklers.

His locker room presence is tremendous and extremely significant. I'm glad we have him but he's very easily upgradeable.
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Didn't Anderson just sign a 2 year deal to keep him from going elsewhere as a FA? He must not be as easy to replace as you indicate.
 
NitroHonda said:
Anderson isn't all that. He does catch a perfectly thrown football well but I don't think I've ever seen him run after the catch. He's simply too small and completely lacks the strength to shed tacklers.

His locker room presence is tremendous and extremely significant. I'm glad we have him but he's very easily upgradeable.
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Well for example he had that 65 yarder against Oakland last year.
 
BillsFan6 said:
Fitzpatrick DEFINITELY makes things harder on defenses than Edwards did. How do you guys expect to cover Evans and Owens, and still be run conscious?
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Real easily. The same way every team has. Evans is nothing but a deep threat and that's all he's ever been really. TO is old now and is pouting his way into the off season already. He's already called it quits for the most part.

As far as the Bills running game, well what is there to watch out for? The coaching staff over there doesn't have a clue what they're doing. They're not even playing the better RB once again this year. Fred Jackson has been second fiddle to Lynch again, who is very overrated and Fred Jackson has clearly out played him, so I don't see an offensive game plan being used from the Bills to really worry about honestly.

I'm a lot more worried about the Bills defense than anything else. THe Texans offense has been rolling on everyone though, and I'm pretty sure that they'll do just fine once again against the BIlls. This should be a for sure win.
 
We got lit up by Fitzpatrick as a ram but totally dismantled him last year in Cincinatti.

Im not worried about your offense, but your pass defense scares the crap out me. We are a pass first, mid to long range passing offense that may have trouble in Buffalo.

This game comes down to turnovers. If you guys win the turnover battle, you may win the game
 
badboy said:
Didn't Anderson just sign a 2 year deal to keep him from going elsewhere as a FA? He must not be as easy to replace as you indicate.
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Yet it was easy for us to plunk down a couple million for David Anderson yet we're battling with Ryans and Daniels as well as Robinson. I think this is a FO issue that gives me butterflies. I don't think they're choosing their battles too well.
 
NitroHonda said:
Yet it was easy for us to plunk down a couple million for David Anderson yet we're battling with Ryans and Daniels as well as Robinson. I think this is a FO issue that gives me butterflies. I don't think they're choosing their battles too well.
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It is possible that neither OD or Ryans on team next year. I can see that happening. Both may be free agents although one may get the extra franchise tag allowed if 2010 is an uncapped year. DR will get the other again unless he has a worse season that I think.
 
badboy said:
It is possible that neither OD or Ryans on team next year. I can see that happening. Both may be free agents although one may get the extra franchise tag allowed if 2010 is an uncapped year. DR will get the other again unless he has a worse season that I think.
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Both are Restricted Free Agents. They're not going anywhere.
 
badboy said:
It is possible that neither OD or Ryans on team next year. I can see that happening. Both may be free agents although one may get the extra franchise tag allowed if 2010 is an uncapped year. DR will get the other again unless he has a worse season that I think.
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I've seen us plunk down large chunks of money on players that can be replaced. Anderson and Leach are two that come to mind. I'm a big fan of both but is Leach really worth being one of the highest paid FB in the league after his first season coming off the streets when it appears that we have more pressing issues?

No no no... that's not really what I'm trying to broach here. Let me try to rethink and change question... Was getting those two extended to larger than the norm contracts just as we started to get out of cap hell a priority? Again, I'm happy to have both of them on our team and don't really have a problem with how much money they make. It's just how... how the front office seems to be picking their battles. I think they have chose poorly.
 
I think the Bills defense will have a much harder time with our offense than our defense will have with theirs. I think Texans beat the Bills and head up to Indy with a 5-3 record.

But hey, the Texans are the Jekyll and Hyde of the NFL, so no telling who'll show up this weekend.
 
The good news for us is Demarcus Faggins is no longer around to get torched by Lee Evans. The bad news is the rest our db's are still around to get torched by Lee Evans. If we can (finally) manage to get a pass rush and contain the run we will be in good shape.
 
Okay, a few things from reading through the thread now:

If your run attack is weak, you will struggle against the Bills' pass defense.

We've held Brady and Brees in check this year, and the league's unworthy (Sanchez, Anderson, Delhomme, Leftwich) looked absolutely pitiful against us.

The only unmentioned 2009 quarterback opponent to this point is Chad Henne, who picked up the win because the Dolphins ran on us (like they have everyone else they've beaten) with unfettered ease.

But since we contained Brees and Brady, I have no doubt we can contain Schaub, ESPECIALLY if your run-blocking up front is poor. Marcus Stroud is still a beast, and Kyle Williams is the best player in the NFL that nobody outside Western New York has ever heard of. If you guys are without Johnson, this will be a snore fest, because make no mistake:

Our offense will not win us this game.

Fitz IS better than Edwards right now because the guy takes shots. This very debate is raging right now in Bills nation, but the stats show Fitz is more inclined to make a throw >15 yards.

Evans is only a deep threat, huh? Well, I suppose if catching the ball 8 yards from the LOS then outrunning everyone to the endzone is a deep threat, then yes, that's exactly what he is.

Our offense is deadly when Evans is involved (I goofed, the last time we played you guys he had over 170 yards and 2 TD's IN THE FIRST QUARTER.

Lee and Edwards never really jived, certainly not like Evans and Losman. But there is definitely shades of the latter relationship with how Fitz looks to get the guy involved.

When defenses have to respect Evans (something they didn't have to do weeks 3-6 with Trentative under center), we've got the running tandem needed to impose our will.

So, if you're DB's aren't up to the task, and we can jump on you early, good luck passing your way back into the game.
 
They key to victory for us is being able to run the ball on you. We have terrible success this year running, as the Bills do stopping the run. This is a case of Resistible Force vs. Movable Object. Which one is better? Or worse? If the winds aren't blowing terribly, we can definitely find several ways to beat you through the air as we have in all of our victories this season.
 
Ryan said:
They key to victory for us is being able to run the ball on you. We have terrible success this year running, as the Bills do stopping the run. This is a case of Resistible Force vs. Movable Object. Which one is better? Or worse? If the winds aren't blowing terribly, we can definitely find several ways to beat you through the air as we have in all of our victories this season.
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We all expected an unabashed deluge last week in Carolina against Double Trouble. Not so much.

We're figuring it out. Having POZ back doesn't hurt at all, but against the Jets and Browns we had career special teamers and undrafted rookies starting at LB. We're much more stable now.
 
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We all expected an unabashed deluge last week in Carolina against Double Trouble. Not so much.

We're figuring it out. Having POZ back doesn't hurt at all, but against the Jets and Browns we had career special teamers and undrafted rookies starting at LB. We're much more stable now.
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I think we are due any time now to have at least one big day running the football. Slaton has severe fumbling issues, but he's a good block away from taking one to the house. And so far this season we've faced much tougher secondaries than the one that y'all will put out on the field Sunday. If you try to double AJ, than we'll beat you with other guys. Than once AJ is single covered, you can kiss this game goodbye. That is of course if he plays. Even without him i think our passing game is too much to handle.
 
Ryan said:
I think we are due any time now to have at least one big day running the football. Slaton has severe fumbling issues, but he's a good block away from taking one to the house. And so far this season we've faced much tougher secondaries than the one that y'all will put out on the field Sunday. If you try to double AJ, than we'll beat you with other guys. Than once AJ is single covered, you can kiss this game goodbye. That is of course if he plays. Even without him i think our passing game is too much to handle.
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Much tougher secondaries than ours?

Really?

Jets, Titans, Jax, Oakland, Arizona, Cincy, and San Fran?

I'll give you Oakland and Arizona, after that, not a chance.
 
Section516 said:
Especially playing with Jenkins up in the QBs face all day, with blitz's coming from all over?
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Revis didn't have Jenkins last season and he did g-r-e-a-t! Either way, whoever makes the secondary better does not matter, he shut Andre Johnson down. That's solid secondary play anyway you look at it.
 
BillsFan6 said:
Okay, a few things from reading through the thread now:

If your run attack is weak, you will struggle against the Bills' pass defense.

We've held Brady and Brees in check this year, and the league's unworthy (Sanchez, Anderson, Delhomme, Leftwich) looked absolutely pitiful against us.

The only unmentioned 2009 quarterback opponent to this point is Chad Henne, who picked up the win because the Dolphins ran on us (like they have everyone else they've beaten) with unfettered ease.

But since we contained Brees and Brady, I have no doubt we can contain Schaub, ESPECIALLY if your run-blocking up front is poor. Marcus Stroud is still a beast, and Kyle Williams is the best player in the NFL that nobody outside Western New York has ever heard of. If you guys are without Johnson, this will be a snore fest, because make no mistake:

Our offense will not win us this game.

Fitz IS better than Edwards right now because the guy takes shots. This very debate is raging right now in Bills nation, but the stats show Fitz is more inclined to make a throw >15 yards.

Evans is only a deep threat, huh? Well, I suppose if catching the ball 8 yards from the LOS then outrunning everyone to the endzone is a deep threat, then yes, that's exactly what he is.

Our offense is deadly when Evans is involved (I goofed, the last time we played you guys he had over 170 yards and 2 TD's IN THE FIRST QUARTER.

Lee and Edwards never really jived, certainly not like Evans and Losman. But there is definitely shades of the latter relationship with how Fitz looks to get the guy involved.

When defenses have to respect Evans (something they didn't have to do weeks 3-6 with Trentative under center), we've got the running tandem needed to impose our will.

So, if you're DB's aren't up to the task, and we can jump on you early, good luck passing your way back into the game.
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Well, gosh. I guess I will not hurry home from church Sunday. It will be interesting to hear how the preacher ends a sermon for once. He always starts late. I give him to 11:45 to wrap it up so if he starts by 11 as he is supposed to and reduces his jokes...
 
BillsFan6 said:
Darelle Revis is a terror. But one Darelle Revis does not a secondary make. Mind you, we beat the Jets with Fitz coming off the bench.
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Yet you'll give the Raiders credit for a great secondary? I only see Asomugha that's worthy on there. Not a fan of Chris Johnson.
 
BillsFan6 said:
Much tougher secondaries than ours?

Really?

Jets, Titans, Jax, Oakland, Arizona, Cincy, and San Fran?

I'll give you Oakland and Arizona, after that, not a chance.
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Nnamdi Asomugha with the Raiders?

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My bad... My page didn't refresh... Nitro beat me.

NitroHonda said:
Yet you'll give the Raiders credit for a great secondary? I only see Asomugha that's worthy on there. Not a fan of Chris Johnson.
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BillsFan6 said:
Much tougher secondaries than ours?

Really?

Jets, Titans, Jax, Oakland, Arizona, Cincy, and San Fran?

I'll give you Oakland and Arizona, after that, not a chance.
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Also, I coulda swore before Cincy went up against the best WR in the league, they held plenty of #1s to well...Jack diddly?

Just sayin..Just sayin! :specnatz:
 
I'm really not that interested in debating the secondaries around the league.

But if you must know, McGee doesn't necessarily qualify as "shut down" but he never, ever gives up the big one.
 
BillsFan6 said:
I'm really not that interested in debating the secondaries around the league.

But if you must know, McGee doesn't necessarily qualify as "shut down" but he never, ever gives up the big one.
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That's fine. We'll just throw to David Anderson all day long. 5 yards per reception is all we need.
 
NitroHonda said:
Broham, I'm not talking smack. I'm trying to tell you that our passing attack is out of this world. You keep dismissing it.
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And speaking of out of this world, you've yet to go against all-world rookie Jairus Byrd. We'll see about that passing attack of yours.

Here's how well Brees did at the Ralph in 2009:

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16 29 172 55.2 32 0 0

And that was without the Byrdman, baby.

Also, we have these things in Buffalo called fans. They'll be so loud, Schaub won't be able to SEE, let alone hear. And if you're at all familiar with the Quicksilver method you'll know that if a man can't see, he can't fight.
 
BillsFan6 said:
And speaking of out of this world, you've yet to go against all-world rookie Jairus Byrd. We'll see about that passing attack of yours.

Here's how well Brees did at the Ralph in 2009:

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16 29 172 55.2 32 0 0

And that was without the Byrdman, baby.

Also, we have these things in Buffalo called fans. They'll be so loud, Schaub won't be able to SEE, let alone hear. And if you're at all familiar with the Quicksilver method you'll know that if a man can't see, he can't fight.
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I don't think either team is worthy of trash talking (atleast with out backing it up). Both teams seem to be good in some games and horrible in the others. Both are jeckle hyde type teams. Difference is which teams show up. Otherwise, leave the trash talking till after the game and hope for a good injury free game. Buffalo fans I wish you the best of luck against the rest of our division opponents.
 
BillsFan6 said:
And speaking of out of this world, you've yet to go against all-world rookie Jairus Byrd. We'll see about that passing attack of yours.

Here's how well Brees did at the Ralph in 2009:

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16 29 172 55.2 32 0 0

And that was without the Byrdman, baby.

Also, we have these things in Buffalo called fans. They'll be so loud, Schaub won't be able to SEE, let alone hear. And if you're at all familiar with the Quicksilver method you'll know that if a man can't see, he can't fight.
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Funny stuff.
 
Andrew6 said:
I don't think either team is worthy of trash talking (atleast with out backing it up). Both teams seem to be good in some games and horrible in the others. Both are jeckle hyde type teams. Difference is which teams show up. Otherwise, leave the trash talking till after the game and hope for a good injury free game. Buffalo fans I wish you the best of luck against the rest of our division opponents.
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Oh Lord, if there's one team in the league whose fans have no business talking smack, it's the Detroit Lions.

If there's a second, it's The Buffalo Bills.

That doesn't mean it's not fun, though! :tiphat:

(btw, your emoticons are much more fun than ours)
 
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