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If Bernard Pollard plays as well as he talks, he's gonna be a STUD safety

DexmanC

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Hey, guys. check this vid on the home page if you haven't seen it yet.
Pollard talks MAD game. He says all the right things better than any safety
prospect this team has ever had. I'm anxious to watch the train wreck on
Sunday just to see how Pollard plugs that sieve known as our defensive
backfield.
 
Before we get too excited, Pollard was the starting safety vs. the Raiders last year when McFadden went for 160+ yards. And he was the safety when Lendale White (when he was close to 280 pounds) busted an 80 yard run, White and CJ combined for like 300+ rushing yards. Not to spoil the sentiment but he's been a victim to gashings before. I wouldn't be surprised to see the circus continue Sunday.
 
As far as good play in the secondary is concerned, I'll believe it when I see it.
 
SheTexan said:
Anything will be better than what we currently have, so put him on the field! JMO!
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m5kwatts said:
Before we get too excited, Pollard was the starting safety vs. the Raiders last year when McFadden went for 160+ yards. And he was the safety when Lendale White (when he was close to 280 pounds) busted an 80 yard run, White and CJ combined for like 300+ rushing yards. Not to spoil the sentiment but he's been a victim to gashings before. I wouldn't be surprised to see the circus continue Sunday.
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In the video, he subtly placed the bulk of the blame for those performances
on the lack of ability of his front seven. He was almost giddy about the
talent of his supporting cast. We'll see on Sunday, but it's good that Kubiak
ain't waiting for players like Fred Bennett to "turn it around." Might as well
start Brice Mccain. At least he has the speed to make up for an initial
mistake.
 
m5kwatts said:
Before we get too excited, Pollard was the starting safety vs. the Raiders last year when McFadden went for 160+ yards. And he was the safety when Lendale White (when he was close to 280 pounds) busted an 80 yard run, White and CJ combined for like 300+ rushing yards. Not to spoil the sentiment but he's been a victim to gashings before. I wouldn't be surprised to see the circus continue Sunday.
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I agree for the most part. This dude sat at home without hearing from the other 31 teams. I find it hard to believe those 31 teams are set at the SS position.

But heck, he'd be an upgrade if he just flopped his body in the gap he was assigned. At least get in the way so the rest can catch up.
 
HOU-TEX said:
I agree for the most part. This dude sat at home without hearing from the other 31 teams. I find it hard to believe those 31 teams are set at the SS position.

But heck, he'd be an upgrade if he just flopped his body in the gap he was assigned. At least get in the way so the rest can catch up.
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If you recall, there was something that had to do with league rules that if he got signed by a certain week he had to make a guaranteed amount of how much he was making guaranteed with the other team. After week 1 or two, a team could sign them to their terms or something like that. That could explain why he had to wait to get signed and why he chose Houston could be because of Gibbs aside from we may have bee the first to ask.

As for the news of him signing, I'm a little disappointed because I thought I was going to get the start when the team signed me.
 
DexmanC said:
In the video, he subtly placed the bulk of the blame for those performances
on the lack of ability of his front seven. He was almost giddy about the
talent of his supporting cast. We'll see on Sunday, but it's good that Kubiak
ain't waiting for players like Fred Bennett to "turn it around." Might as well
start Brice Mccain. At least he has the speed to make up for an initial
mistake.
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our front 7 play has been awful as well. A few moments of individual brilliance from a couple of players but awful on balance. He was a FA for a reason, but he may be the best SS on the roster. That tells me something about our talent forecasting abilities.....well, it tells me it hasn't changed.
 
DexmanC said:
In the video, he subtly placed the bulk of the blame for those performances
on the lack of ability of his front seven. He was almost giddy about the
talent of his supporting cast. We'll see on Sunday, but it's good that Kubiak
ain't waiting for players like Fred Bennett to "turn it around." Might as well
start Brice Mccain. At least he has the speed to make up for an initial
mistake.
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I have to blame big runs on the safety, that is their purpose out there. And it was Lendale White, if he can't run down that fat whale turd then thats pathetic. But there is way more talent here on defense than in KC so I give him that. I love McCain getting reps, he's a better corner than Bennett right now. I would rather have GQ in over Bennett to be honest.
 
DexmanC said:
Hey, guys. check this vid on the home page if you haven't seen it yet.
Pollard talks MAD game. He says all the right things better than any safety
prospect this team has ever had. I'm anxious to watch the train wreck on
Sunday just to see how Pollard plugs that sieve known as our defensive
backfield.
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You're excited because of what a guy says that's proven nothing and couldn't even start over these horrible guys that have been atrocious the last few games? NEXT.
 
Pollard can talk all day for all I care.

That's about all we have on this team, in terms of coaches AND players: Good public speakers.

We don't have an NFL team. We have a Rotary Club. Debate Team. Poets.

Somebody grab a Battle Red sport coat for Pollard, get him a podium, and a couple of judges.
 
so ... for some of y'all that have keen eyes. how was his play today?

I honestly didn't pay attention to the safeties that much
 
Wolf said:
so ... for some of y'all that have keen eyes. how was his play today?

I honestly didn't pay attention to the safeties that much
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Its tough to guage safety play when the opposing QB throws the ball 10 yards out of reach of the nearest WR
 
GP said:
Pollard can talk all day for all I care.

That's about all we have on this team, in terms of coaches AND players: Good public speakers.

We don't have an NFL team. We have a Rotary Club. Debate Team. Poets.

Somebody grab a Battle Red sport coat for Pollard, get him a podium, and a couple of judges.
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1. Will Demps

2. Eugene Wilson

3. Bernard Pollard

Each year there's a free agent acquisition at Safety, and the guy comes in and plays well for several games.

And every year, there somebody different playing Safety. Doing the same things. Each year.

We always are amazed at the guy's immediate impact, and then the honeymoon ends because the problem is that we can't face weak offenses for all 16 games every year.

At some point, this defense is going to ripped to shreds again.

The linebackers are the only consistently good group out there. They are the backbone of this jellyfish defense right now.

We need better talent in the secondary and on the line. They look OK against weaker teams with weak QBs. Then they get burned by QBs who know how to beat the line's "allllmost there, just one more inch to go!" pass rushing pressure and the secondary's 10-yard cushions.

The linebackers were the "X" factor today, IMO.

Pollard does improve our tackling vs. the running game, though. He is getting in there and making solid contact instead of weird angles that make a guy bounce off like a pinball. Glover Quinn had good tackling technique, too. I'm thinking we went with a secondary lineup that played well vs. the run. Did anybody ever see Fred Bennett on the field today?
 
I saw him when a relatively big play went his way. That was the only time I saw him though not surprisingly. Don't remember which play it was.

I'm a fan of seeing how a Wilson/Pollard combo does. Pollard brings a presence vs the run none of the rest of them can offer, and Wilson is our best safety in coverage.
 
Wolf said:
so ... for some of y'all that have keen eyes. how was his play today?

I honestly didn't pay attention to the safeties that much
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He was solid. Really wanted we wanted to see out of our safety, gap responsible, brought the wood on that Louis Murphy? reception on the sideline, he was in good position on a swing, and all around he performed well.

On a side note all the safeties looked good today, we got a bit of Barber, Busing and Pollard, and I wasn't disappointed in any of them. Although, I think it was Barber over the top on that dropped Louis Murphy sure touchdown when he beat Robinson and Russell threw over the wrong shoulder.
 
GP said:
1. Will Demps

2. Eugene Wilson

3. Bernard Pollard

Each year there's a free agent acquisition at Safety, and the guy comes in and plays well for several games.

And every year, there somebody different playing Safety. Doing the same things. Each year.

We always are amazed at the guy's immediate impact, and then the honeymoon ends because the problem is that we can't face weak offenses for all 16 games every year.

At some point, this defense is going to ripped to shreds again.

The linebackers are the only consistently good group out there. They are the backbone of this jellyfish defense right now.

We need better talent in the secondary and on the line. They look OK against weaker teams with weak QBs. Then they get burned by QBs who know how to beat the line's "allllmost there, just one more inch to go!" pass rushing pressure and the secondary's 10-yard cushions.

The linebackers were the "X" factor today, IMO.

Pollard does improve our tackling vs. the running game, though. He is getting in there and making solid contact instead of weird angles that make a guy bounce off like a pinball. Glover Quinn had good tackling technique, too. I'm thinking we went with a secondary lineup that played well vs. the run. Did anybody ever see Fred Bennett on the field today?
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Every year we have a new DB acquisition come in and play awesome their first season. Dunta Robinson, Will Demps, Eugene Wilson, Fred Bennett, Jacques Reeves, just to name a few.

Once our coaches have them for a full offseason, they suck and termed to be in a "slump." Go figure
 
GP said:
Did anybody ever see Fred Bennett on the field today?
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Yeah, I think he was in relief sometime late in the game and on special teams.

Rightfully so, a 4th and 6th round rookie can outplay you Freddy B. It's not even close.

Quin-Geez, this guy looked like a player. Even if he did give up the catch the receiver felt the ground immediately and he even did a good run supporting CB impersonation. Tackling in the secondary was a plus yesterday thanks to GQ and Pollard and addition by subtraction of Bennett.

Pollard, wow first off....that guy looks like a truck and wasn't afraid to throw that big frame into runner's way. Played VERY solidly and with 10 days of practice started and handled a whole game. Outstanding. I know it looks like it at first but I don't think he'll be the Will Demps of this year. I think this is our SS for a while.
 
Fox said:
I saw him when a relatively big play went his way. That was the only time I saw him though not surprisingly. Don't remember which play it was.

I'm a fan of seeing how a Wilson/Pollard combo does. Pollard brings a presence vs the run none of the rest of them can offer, and Wilson is our best safety in coverage.
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If you're talking about Fred Bennett then that was when Oakland converted a 4th and 9 I believe (could be wrong). I remember seeing him one time when Oakland converted and the ball was thrown to a guy who was just passed him near the sideline. Fred was standing there flat footed looking completely lost. The guy caught the ball, Fred turned around, and someone other than Fred drove the guy out of bounds.

I'm sure he was back out there at some point but I don't remember seeing him again after that. I think it was on the 4th and 9.
 
Pollard put a slobber-knocker on TE Miller. That was nice, but need to see our DB's against a competent offense.
 
Vinny said:
Fred Bennett is way worse than Petey Faggins ever was.
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The thing that I would say about Petey is that he was pretty good for us from 2003-2006. In '07 and '08 he was pretty wretched but he had already played 4 seasons of pretty good football by that time. I think Bennett's length and ball skills led to a few exciting plays as a rookie. Unfortunately, he doesn't bring much else to the table and he is really being exposed these days.
 
I thought Pollard, Sanders, and Barber all played a good game yesterday. Bennett is worthless.
 
Pollard did hit hard but I am more interested if the opponent goes down. He seems to have good tackling technique from what little I was able to see. The defense over all tackled more soundly. Diles, Ryans and Cushing did their usual thing but SMith and Okoye seemed to actually have a fire.
 
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You should see some of the text message exchanges between me and my friends regarding Fred Bennett.
 
Pollard took a hell of alot better angles towards the players than the previous saftey's before. I was impressed, but definitley somewhere that needs to be upgraded in next years draft or FA.
 
One thing is for sure though, Arizona's offense is 1000 times better then Oakland's. I love that we are making changes to our lineup, looking to improve, but it will take me more then a game against the Raiders to be convinced. To make a playoff push, we will need to beat some of these higher quality teams in some ugly games, meaing our defense will need to hold them to under 20 points consistently. Go Texans.
 
TexCanada said:
One thing is for sure though, Arizona's offense is 1000 times better then Oakland's. I love that we are making changes to our lineup, looking to improve, but it will take me more then a game against the Raiders to be convinced. To make a playoff push, we will need to beat some of these higher quality teams in some ugly games, meaing our defense will need to hold them to under 20 points consistently. Go Texans.
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True, but they look like Oakland's defense in the face of heavy pressure, so hopefully we continue that trend.
 
GP said:
1. Will Demps

2. Eugene Wilson

3. Bernard Pollard

Each year there's a free agent acquisition at Safety, and the guy comes in and plays well for several games.

And every year, there somebody different playing Safety. Doing the same things. Each year.

We always are amazed at the guy's immediate impact, and then the honeymoon ends because the problem is that we can't face weak offenses for all 16 games every year.

At some point, this defense is going to ripped to shreds again.

The linebackers are the only consistently good group out there. They are the backbone of this jellyfish defense right now.

We need better talent in the secondary and on the line. They look OK against weaker teams with weak QBs. Then they get burned by QBs who know how to beat the line's "allllmost there, just one more inch to go!" pass rushing pressure and the secondary's 10-yard cushions.

The linebackers were the "X" factor today, IMO.

Pollard does improve our tackling vs. the running game, though. He is getting in there and making solid contact instead of weird angles that make a guy bounce off like a pinball. Glover Quinn had good tackling technique, too. I'm thinking we went with a secondary lineup that played well vs. the run. Did anybody ever see Fred Bennett on the field today?
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what all these players have in common to me is they were motivated to prove themselves in the league, the Texans obliged always looking to add moxie & swagger in the back-end, roster spots rotate, & schemes ever changing to accomadate players abilities. Then reality sets in & what got them run from their last stint carrys over into the next season.

Texans have needed help in every area as if they can't shake the expansion label. Safety has not been prioritized like DL, OL, LB or QB. Your absolutely right its been a swinging door policy in the secondary, but if the DL finally blossoms, OL remains steady, Schaub reamains upright & LB's teeth of the defense, Saftey & CB will be upgraded in the next couple drafts, depending on available talent. Glover 4th & McCain 6th are both steps in the right direction but where not first day picks for reasons.

I hope the Texans can reach agreement with Dunta Robinson this offseason then a 1st or 2nd rd. grade Safety can be resolved via the draft :cool:
 
beerlover said:
I hope the Texans can reach agreement with Dunta Robinson this offseason then a 1st or 2nd rd. grade Safety can be resolved via the draft :cool:
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I'm a big Dunta Robinson fan. I'm one of the few who is not angry at him for his holdout and whatnot. I was really really glad to see him return.

That being said... Dunta Robinson looked lost yesterday along with Bennett. It seemed like that 4th and 9 was more of a blown coverage plan by Robinson, not Bennett. I'm in no way advocating Fred Bennett. I want him off the field. Just saying that Robinson looked pretty bad yesterday. Seemed like that their receivers were dropping passes in the area of Robinson. Some of those drops could have easily been a TD based on where Dunta Robinson's positioning was at the time of the drop.

He looked really bad yesterday. I hope he pulls it together for the Arizona game.
 
I saw this from him in his interviews before, and now it's come to pass.
This dude IS a STUD SAFETY.

He's a former second-round pick in only his FOURTH SEASON.
The Chiefs cut their leading tackler, because he's the REASON, that
Josh McDaniels and Matt Cassell are in the Chiefs' Organization IN THE
FIRST PLACE!!
 
DexmanC said:
I saw this from him in his interviews before, and now it's come to pass.
This dude IS a STUD SAFETY.

He's a former second-round pick in only his FOURTH SEASON.
The Chiefs cut their leading tackler, because he's the REASON, that
Josh McDaniels and Matt Cassell are in the Chiefs' Organization IN THE
FIRST PLACE!!
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Josh Mcdaniels is within the Chiefs?
 
DexmanC said:
I saw this from him in his interviews before, and now it's come to pass.
This dude IS a STUD SAFETY.

He's a former second-round pick in only his FOURTH SEASON.
The Chiefs cut their leading tackler, because he's the REASON, that
Josh McDaniels and Matt Cassell are in the Chiefs' Organization IN THE
FIRST PLACE!!
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uh wut
 
Look, I know this has been probably gone over before in this thread . . .

. . . but will someone please explain to me how a 'stud' safety is cut by the Chiefs and not picked up immediately by someone else, and then is still available 2 games into the season.

Just don't understand how somebody supposedly this good could fall in out laps like that. Does he have leprosy or something?
 
I am going to hold my judgement on Pollard after seeing this game. He was fine in the first half but in the second half, when the offense spread us out he looked suspect. Especially on all the Vernon Davis TDs. It looked as if they attacked him with a WR on the outside running a post to make him bite over to that side and then throw to the TE in the seams and that was hard for him to defend.

This is going to be critical over the next few weeks as we face T.O. in Buffalo and of course Indy and their pass happy offense.

He did make some plays though.
 
El Tejano said:
I am going to hold my judgement on Pollard after seeing this game. He was fine in the first half but in the second half, when the offense spread us out he looked suspect. Especially on all the Vernon Davis TDs. It looked as if they attacked him with a WR on the outside running a post to make him bite over to that side and then throw to the TE in the seams and that was hard for him to defend.

This is going to be critical over the next few weeks as we face T.O. in Buffalo and of course Indy and their pass happy offense.

He did make some plays though.
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Demeco messed up on two of those Davis TDs too...he had his back turned to the QB both times. Pollard and Ryans should have had better coverage than what they did.

It was obvious that the Texans didn't game plan for Alex Smith and that spread offense they ran.
 
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