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Personnel or coaching? Chicken or the egg?

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TheRealJoker

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What's the problem with this team? Is it the lack of a DT who can hold the LOS or a SS that can tackle? Or is it poor coaching decisions? Why does Steve Slaton only get 12 carries in a close game when he averages 6 yards a carry. You go into pass mode like the run wasn't going anywhere and let Schaub take unnecessary punishment.

It seems like the lack of a DT/SS personnel wise is holding the defense back. If Kubiak wants to save his job he's gonna have to trade a high draft choice to get an NFL starter to take over one of those positions or else its gonna mean we need to score 30+ points to win a game this year which is a recipe for yet another mediocre season.

Coaching wise we still have inconsistency across the board and head scratching play calls throughout. We had absolutely no answer for Del Rio's misdirection WR reverse/RB handoff/QB keeper plays they ran repeatedly and did I mention we unnecessarily let our QB take too much punishment when we could've ran the ball with success in a close game?

This team is the Jekyll and Hyde of the NFL, that mainly falls on the coaching staff. But they also dont have NFL talent at DT or SS which is why teams can notch 200+ rushing yards on us routinely and that falls at Rick Smith's feet for not supplying us with the proper talent at those positions. You tried to hit on Amobi and thus far have failed but at SS and with the rest of the DTs you rely on either street FAs or late round picks. That tells me we severely undervalue two positions that have proven to be extremely important to winning championships.

This aint late 90s Denver and we dont have an Alex Gibbs equivalent coaching defense. You cant take anyone and put them in at DT or SS and expect them to be studs like you could with RBs back in your heyday Houston Broncos coaches and FO!!!
 
I think it is a combination of both. I know that's the easy way out, but I don't think a coaching change by itself would make the ultimate difference and I don't think replacing a couple of weak links would push us over the top.
 
The answer, of course, is it's both. The problem is both coaching and personnel.

Having said that, I think a really solid defensive coordinator could make something respectable of the talent the Texans already have.
 
TexansFanatic said:
The answer, of course, is it's both. The problem is both coaching and personnel.

Having said that, I think a really solid defensive coordinator could make something respectable of the talent the Texans already have.
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So you mean if we actually hired a bonafide NFL DC and paid him top dollar we'd see a real defense? That sounds very similar to what a similar style team did in the offseason...they're 3-0

For those who dont get the reference i'm talking about last year's all offense no defense 8-8 team the New Orleans Saints who are now 3-0 and look great.
 
This defense needs talent. The Texans knew this defense needed a lot and in the draft they draft 2 TE's. I still don't understand that and I never will either.
 
TheRealJoker said:
So you mean if we actually hired a bonafide NFL DC and paid him top dollar we'd see a real defense? That sounds very similar to what a similar style team did in the offseason...they're 3-0

For those who dont get the reference i'm talking about last year's all offense no defense 8-8 team the New Orleans Saints who are now 3-0 and look great.
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I hear you. I got the reference. And it sort of makes me sick that Gregg Williams was there for the taking and the Texans promoted an assistant from their own crappy defensive staff.
 
TexansFanatic said:
I hear you. I got the reference. And it sort of makes me sick that Gregg Williams was there for the taking and the Texans promoted an assistant from their own crappy defensive staff.
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Kubiak doesn't seem to be willing to go off his myspace friends list for a coach. I guess Koller would count, but all the others seem to be guys he played with or coached with or coached.
 
TheRealJoker said:
So you mean if we actually hired a bonafide NFL DC and paid him top dollar we'd see a real defense? That sounds very similar to what a similar style team did in the offseason...they're 3-0

For those who dont get the reference i'm talking about last year's all offense no defense 8-8 team the New Orleans Saints who are now 3-0 and look great.
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Kinda helps when your offense drops damn near 50 every game. Besides, Greg Williams was Jax's D-coordinator last year & jax on defense was garbage. Having said that, i guess you know what side i fall on. It's personnel, it just has to be. The signs are obvious.

you're expecting run so you call a play that packs the box with 8-10 guys and you still can't stop it....

Guys missing tackles left and right....

Blitzing all kind of ways..........and still not getting good pressure....

Do i even have to mention the musical chairs in the secondary?

guys who would be special teamers elsewhere are getting signifcant time playing with us.

This has been the case through 2 defensive coordinators so far and 1 guy who, league wide is thought to be one of the better defensive minds in the game (Capers) & we still can't get it right. We've drafted horribly on that side of the ball with the exception of a couple of guys and every FA we've brought in hasn't worked out.
 
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TheRealJoker said:
So you mean if we actually hired a bonafide NFL DC and paid him top dollar we'd see a real defense? That sounds very similar to what a similar style team did in the offseason...they're 3-0

For those who dont get the reference i'm talking about last year's all offense no defense 8-8 team the New Orleans Saints who are now 3-0 and look great.
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Saints D looks great with pretty much Jenkins as their best player in the secondary and the Saints LB's aren't as good as the Texans. The Saints have a good front four.
 
texanhead08 said:
This defense needs talent. The Texans knew this defense needed a lot and in the draft they draft 2 TE's. I still don't understand that and I never will either.
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Talent and coaching, IMO.

I think the term Smithiak is turning from an "in Kubes we trust" euphemism to a one word sarcastic summary.
 
Mr teX said:
Kinda helps when your offense drops damn near 50 every game. Besides, Greg Williams was Jax's D-coordinator last year & jax on defense was garbage.
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The Saints have the 11th ranked defense (which would've been more than enough here) and they've been making plays all season so far...(they pretty much shut down Buffalo and TO today).....it's not just the high powered offense. Our offense might drop damn near 50 points a game if they got the ball back more often.

Also Gregg Williams gets a pass in Jax. He was only there for 1 season, the team's chemistry was in the dumpster, and since they have a defensive head coach, I question how much of the defense JDR actually let Williams control.

Williams is a PROVEN defensive coach, who has had great defensive success elsewhere....to not even give a guy like that a interview (or interview ANYBODY) was completely stupid by Kubiak and the FO.
 
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texanhead08 said:
This defense needs talent. The Texans knew this defense needed a lot and in the draft they draft 2 TE's. I still don't understand that and I never will either.
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I can only assume that the FO expects Daniels to walk and not pay him, so they drafted Casey to take his place. Hill was drafted to block in the RZ since the Texans sucked so bad in the RZ last year in rushing TD's
 
Blaming the problems on defense on the fact that we didn't hire a "a bonafide NFL DC" is not only the easy way out, it is the cheap 'looking for the quick-fix way' out.

I know there is a strong group here that is collectively pissed off that they hired Frank Bush, so I realize that anytime that they lose a game, the same song with the "they didn't hire an experienced DC, so that's why they lost" lyrics will played over and over like a record with a scratch in it.

Yes, it's up to the coaches to get the players ready to play, and it's up to the coaches to select the right players.

But once that is done, it's up to the players to perform. Yes, there is talent on the team. But those players who do have the talent are young, raw, and inexperienced. Missed tackles combined with missed assignments?

Anyone who wants to lay this all on coaching, and not hold players accountable, is of the mindset of "well, you can't fire the players, and coaches are the only ones that can be fired, so let's fire them, so we can all feel better".

That's just the way I see it.
 
hmmm

- we are still soft in the middle IMO in the D line Amobi & cody are just not getting it done

- Antinto Smith is SLighty Better then Weaver :P Mario cant do it by himself Casey is still just a rookie and Bullman is up and down

-Our secondary Vets and rookies are not getting it done i can name off the list Mcain Quinn Bushing WIlson Barber BENNENT and even Dunta are all playing ZONE and leaving a cushion and not playing smart football

Our linebackers are FINE IMO ... and thats pretty much sums up our D talnted on paper not getting it done on the field
 
To put it in another perspective about personnel, we're only considered strong in one area on defense which is at Lb. we absolutely stink as far as talent everywhere else.. 1.5 of our guys on the d-line are considered good & .5 in the secondary. That's pathetic.
 
It's both.

What I keep coming back to is that the coaches had enough time to improve the personnel. Not addressing DT and the two safety spots this past offseason is the latest example. So, even though some of it is personnel it still reflects poorly on the coaches/GM. People may say that the GM is the one that makes all those decisions but I don't see it that way. If your a coach and you need a position or two or three upgraded to be successful you need to make yourself heard.
 
It's also on the coaches to develop talent........something we've done a HORRIBLE job at over the years. Not every team spends 1st rounders every single year on defense. Good defensive teams develop talent......when's the last time you heard of a player that we drafted late who actually turned into something? (we have plenty on the offensive side of the ball)....there's Diles annnnd that's about it. That's the reason why you can't just give the coaches a pass and say "well the talent wasn't very good" yada yada yada.

The correct answer is both, but I'm leaning more towards coaching at the moment. When you're making the same stupid mistakes week after week after week and you just look flat out unprepared........that's coaching.
 
and u would think our O would stink since we rarely ad anything to it



Capers era our O sucked and D was average

Kubes era our O is Great and our D right now is Below Average


What cant we have both :(
 
If we don't want to blame the coaches and we want to say we have no talent...then that goes back to the coaches as well since they have input into who the GM picks in the draft and what Fa's are pursued as well.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Also Gregg Williams gets a pass in Jax. He was only there for 1 season, the team's chemistry was in the dumpster, and since they have a defensive head coach, I question how much of the defense JDR actually let Williams control.
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Williams had let it be known that was the reason that he was gone. JDR and Williams couldn't come to an ageement on how to run the defence. It wasn't Williams D, and he wasn't going to run pure JDR's D.
 
I have to believe it's more personnel and Talent. Guys just seem to be way out of position on the big plays. D Rob was quoted on 610 this morning as saying it's not the coaching, it's guy's having mental lapses and not being where they're supposed to be......
 
4Tex - I heard that as well and was gonna mention it. Two things off that - then if the assist. coach isn't up their nether region enough to perfrom on Sundays - that's an issue. Secondly if the coach is doing his part and the players aren't on Sundays - that's an issue.

Kubiak - better figure out which one it is and take approprate action soon. Time to beat "the kids" and make em grow up.
 
It seems like we have a lot of guys on our roster defensively that are not starter quality, but they're getting a lot of playing time with us. That's an FO/coaching issue.

Those players seem to make a lot of mistakes. Sure, it's the players responsibility to play well and do what they're told, but when they don't, consistently, it's a coaching issue.

But, it's not all coaching. You have guys like David Gibbs coming in and starting from scratch to teach guys the fundamentals, and they still can't tackle. Okay, that's a player issue, but it's mainly a FO issue that we have this bunch to work with. You can't bench one guy for not being able to tackle or for missing assignments because the guys behind him suck even worse.

It's both, but you can't solve the problem by picking less than stellar DC candidates AND throwing your most worthless draft choices at positions of GLARING need. I feel like it's a GM issue, but in some ways he's really hit home runs. Plus, we tried to blame the GM/coach last time around. Maybe it's the owner! Maybe the city is cursed! Did Babe Ruth ever come to Houston? I give up! :headhurts:
 
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Coaches and GMs that come in together form a plan as to what type of players they want and how they should be coached up. Going off of that talent evaluation and signings you have to say it is a fail for the coaching. Obviously the personnel is bad but the repsonsibility of bringing them in and putting them in the scheme is the coach and GM. Also, when you put your career on the line by again hiring a "friend" to coordinate the D then you are making a dumb move.
 
Talent or coaching? No, not this time. This time I am absolutely certain that we're looking at a product of our coaching staff. When we were dealing with Ocho Stinko and trying to figure out if the problem was the QB, the surrounding cast, the coaching (Palmer), or the other coaching (Pendry) I had trouble identifying the problem. This time I feel sure it's the coaches.

Where's the problem exactly? It's the defense correct?

What do we have on that side of the ball?

DL: We've got Mario Williams at DE. He's a future HOF DE. How many teams have more than one of those on their entire DL? We have Antoine Smith on the other side. Now he's no Mario Williams but the man started on a Super Bowl team and he was far from the weakest link on that line. Antoine Smith can play football. In the tackles we have a bunch of guy who are at best lunch-pail types and at worst overhyped marshmallows (looking at you Okoye). Nobody on this earth can tell me that a good defensive coach couldn't look at this whole bunch and find two at least average starters in the group. Are we top 10? Hell no. We'd need one more genuinely dominant DT to be that but we're definitely not below average in terms of talent. I'm telling you guys that Greg Williams comes in here with the same players and finds two guys who will do anything he asks. He isn't going to start Amobi because he's making "x" number of dollars or because he was taken 10th overall. He plays the guys who can do the job.

LB: We've got above average talent at LB. DeMeco is, well "DeMeco" again and Cush looks like he's definitely working out. Diles is our lunch-pail guy in this group and he's steady. There's not a DC worth his salt in the NFL who couldn't do something with this bunch to wreak some havoc on opposing offenses.

DB: Problems but not hopeless. Dunta is the best we have until Reeves gets back and when he does they're still playing next to a pair of safeties that have no business starting in the NFL. This is literally the only group on the team that's consistently ignored and it shows. A bunch of day two picks doesn't count. I don't know why the Texans place no value on good safety play but it's going to get a bunch of people fired eventually. If Pollard works out then maybe we'll have a decent overall defensive backfield in run support but we need help at safety.

Given that don't you think somebody getting everything possible out of our DL and LB would be able to find a way to minimize the damage done here? There's not a unit in the NFL that doesn't have a weakness of some sort. Good DC's work with that, swap out completely useless pieces for players who can do what they need done and then run their scheme.

Frank & Co. clearly didn't feel they needed any help in their defensive backfield to do what he wanted to do. They didn't bother to draft one until the 7th round. The free agent they brought in was a special teams guy and plays better (backhanded compliment, he still sucks) than our already on the roster starters.

There wasn't one guy out there that might have been able to help us out? Not one free agent who could have upgraded our safeties? Frank & Gary get what they deserve when this season is over and I imagine that will be the chance to go back to being a position coach somewhere and for Gary an OC on Shannahan's next gig.
 
It looks more and more like we just don't have the talent to be good on D. TO that I add that Rick Smith should be just as much to blame as Kubiak. I don't know if they both fit in one hot seat, but when the music finally stops playing they should both be out of the game.
 
They suffer from what is called blind faith. You hear it all the time when discussing coaches or players - "No, I think we have the right personnel in place we just need to execute better."
 
chicagotexan2 said:
It looks more and more like we just don't have the talent to be good on D. TO that I add that Rick Smith should be just as much to blame as Kubiak. I don't know if they both fit in one hot seat, but when the music finally stops playing they should both be out of the game.
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I disagree with that. I think we do have the talent to be good. I'd quantify that with "average to good" but I know damned well we have better talent than 32 out of 32.

We don't need to be top 10. All we need is to be somewhere in the 13-15 range to show enough improvement to make a difference. We have supposedly added to our defense and yet we regress badly.
 
Hervoyel said:
I disagree with that. I think we do have the talent to be good. I'd quantify that with "average to good" but I know damned well we have better talent than 32 out of 32.

We don't need to be top 10. All we need is to be somewhere in the 13-15 range to show enough improvement to make a difference. We have supposedly added to our defense and yet we regress badly.
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we have crap DT's and nothing in SS that is 'NFL starter' material and everyone knows that FS is a need position. No proven weak side edge rusher either. That's a lot of holes.
 
Vinny said:
we have crap DT's and nothing in SS that is 'NFL starter' material and everyone knows that FS is a need position. No proven weak side edge rusher either. That's a lot of holes.
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We look like the Colts when Bob Sanders was hurt a couple of years ago .
 
Vinny said:
we have crap DT's and nothing in SS that is 'NFL starter' material and everyone knows that FS is a need position. No proven weak side edge rusher either. That's a lot of holes.
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Where did Deljuan Robinson go? This guy made a difference every time he was put in there last year. What happened to this guy? We spoke a few times about what he seemed to add to our DL so how did the Texans manage to turn him into a big pile of useless in one off-season?

I guess I'm mostly confused by the fact that if we indeed do have as many holes as it appears then why wasn't more of an effort made to actually fill those holes? Year after year we watch the team suffer without any legitimate DT threat and yet they do nothing to get that guy. Okam in the 5th? A 19 year old two years ago with the 10th pick of the draft? Meanwhile every season we see some big old giant DT looking for a team and eventually signing with somebody and helping them.

We take all of our safeties in the later rounds and yet every year the safety positions are a huge problem for us. If these people think that they're "set" at safety then they're nuts. If they know they need help but don't make any effort to go get it then what does that mean?

I can't help but think that any coach who thinks Cody is going to come in and solve his problems or Okoye is going to suddenly get it in his third season is out of touch with reality.
 
Vinny said:
we have crap DT's and nothing in SS that is 'NFL starter' material and everyone knows that FS is a need position. No proven weak side edge rusher either. That's a lot of holes.
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Hervoyel said:
Where did Deljuan Robinson go? This guy made a difference every time he was put in there last year. What happened to this guy? We spoke a few times about what he seemed to add to our DL so how did the Texans manage to turn him into a big pile of useless in one off-season?

I guess I'm mostly confused by the fact that if we indeed do have as many holes as it appears then why wasn't more of an effort made to actually fill those holes? Year after year we watch the team suffer without any legitimate DT threat and yet they do nothing to get that guy. Okam in the 5th? A 19 year old two years ago with the 10th pick of the draft? Meanwhile every season we see some big old giant DT looking for a team and eventually signing with somebody and helping them.

We take all of our safeties in the later rounds and yet every year the safety positions are a huge problem for us. If these people think that they're "set" at safety then they're nuts. If they know they need help but don't make any effort to go get it then what does that mean?

I can't help but think that any coach who thinks Cody is going to come in and solve his problems or Okoye is going to suddenly get it in his third season is out of touch with reality.
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Ok0ye and C0dy couldn't start anywhere in the NFL outside of here, hell, the Lions didn't want C0dy back. Robinson is a good back up but he looks too inconsistent. 0kam gets pushed around like Ok0ye and that's a friggin mystery. The team looked at us with a straight face and thought that Brandon Harrison was going to be our SS this year...lol, yeah right. Hell, even Diles is 'plan c" at the WLB. It was a showdown between Cato June and Adibi. Looks like both lost. Time for plan "C". Anthony Weaver-Smith is getting paid like Antonio Smith-Weaver, but without the tremendous backpedal. I want know how Bobby Grier keeps his job? He's the one Director of "Pro Scouting" that has stuck from Casserly to Smith and he consistently pulls in gems like Chucky Clemons, Keith Mitchell, Tod Wade, Anthony Weaver, RoBaire Smith and Stacey Mack year after year after year. Why is this man still employed?
 
I think it would've helped our team to grab a vet safety like Dawkins (who 3-0 Denver picked up) that could at least be a bandaid if the Texans are content to draft late round DBs or pick them off on the street and throw them into the starting lineup. Hell, the DBs on the roster just may learn something from a veteran pro bowler who was the leader on one of the best defenses in the last decade...

But no, we resign Wilson who is a bandaid with less pro bowls and leadership skills :(
 
The biggest problem is in the secondary. Dunta Robinson is a 2nd corner on any other decent team. Reeves would be the nickel. Our safeties would be special teams guys. We have no legitimate safety, no legitimate corners. Our d-line is actually getting pressure on the quarterbacks, but the secondary is allowing the qb's to make plays and complete passes on 3rd and long. The d-line is also stuffing MOST runs. But on the occasions where they're able to double-or triple-team one of our tackles and create a hole, the secondary is unable to stop the runner. Hence the long runs in each of the first three games.

How do you fix this, or at least bandage it for now? With schemes that blitz and put constant pressure and fear into the quarterback. Like Richard Smith before him, Frank Bush rarely calls all-out blitz packages and relies on his front four. Regardless of what a lot of you say here, our defensive line IS talented. But everyone knows - double Mario and leave a RB behind to find the guy that gets through, and you have all day to pass. There's no 5th guy rushing in, so they have all four of our guys tied up, and the qb just waits for the inevitable breakdown in our crappy secondary to nail a receiver.

WHY NO BLITZING? I'd be happy to give up the occasional "big play" to see a qb harassed all day long. Hell, we give that up anyway in the running game. At least running a linebacker or safety through some gaps will also stuff a run if they hand off.

These schemes suck. Too bad Ray Rhodes' health is poor. I wouldn't mind that guy taking over the defense either.
 
It's year 5. It's safe to assume that the coach has his guys by now.

If he can't win with them, then that's his problem.
 
I'm convinced its coaching. Some teams mold their draft picks into the kinds of players they need to be. Fred bennett was solid is rookie year and has regressed. Cushing looks solid for now, does he fall off next year? Coaches have to put what they have in a position to succeed. If the guy fails you hold him accountable and bring in the next guy. We need talent at some positions but what is going on here is inexcusable. The worst D in the league is a coaching issue.
 
ATXtexanfan said:
I'm convinced its coaching. Some teams mold their draft picks into the kinds of players they need to be. Fred bennett was solid is rookie year and has regressed. Cushing looks solid for now, does he fall off next year? Coaches have to put what they have in a position to succeed. If the guy fails you hold him accountable and bring in the next guy. We need talent at some positions but what is going on here is inexcusable. The worst D in the league is a coaching issue.
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Bennett was better than Faggins (or much of what we had), but still never above average IMO.
 
Silver Oak said:
Bennett was better than Faggins (or much of what we had), but still never above average IMO.
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How does he go from being solid to garbage? Shouldn't guys get better with experience? Worry about cushing being destroyed, the staff sucks. I know our D isn't the most talented but how does indi do it?
 
DerekLee1 said:
The biggest problem is in the secondary. Dunta Robinson is a 2nd corner on any other decent team. Reeves would be the nickel. Our safeties would be special teams guys. We have no legitimate safety, no legitimate corners. Our d-line is actually getting pressure on the quarterbacks, but the secondary is allowing the qb's to make plays and complete passes on 3rd and long. The d-line is also stuffing MOST runs. But on the occasions where they're able to double-or triple-team one of our tackles and create a hole, the secondary is unable to stop the runner. Hence the long runs in each of the first three games.

How do you fix this, or at least bandage it for now? With schemes that blitz and put constant pressure and fear into the quarterback. Like Richard Smith before him, Frank Bush rarely calls all-out blitz packages and relies on his front four. Regardless of what a lot of you say here, our defensive line IS talented. But everyone knows - double Mario and leave a RB behind to find the guy that gets through, and you have all day to pass. There's no 5th guy rushing in, so they have all four of our guys tied up, and the qb just waits for the inevitable breakdown in our crappy secondary to nail a receiver.

WHY NO BLITZING? I'd be happy to give up the occasional "big play" to see a qb harassed all day long. Hell, we give that up anyway in the running game. At least running a linebacker or safety through some gaps will also stuff a run if they hand off.

These schemes suck. Too bad Ray Rhodes' health is poor. I wouldn't mind that guy taking over the defense either.
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We blitzed Sanchez all day & he beat us. we also blitzed Collins & Gerrard a pretty good amount too. In all of these situations, we still got gashed with the run.
 
TexansFanatic said:
It's year 4 for Kubiak.

Dom had 4 and was out.

Looks like a similar fate awaits Kubiak.

Please Bob, hire the right guy next time.
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I guess I go back to the 07 season when they got lucky on some street free agents. They got lucky on guys like Will Demps, Anthony Maddox, and Cedric Killings.

The patchwork philosophy worked for a couple of years, but at some point, you actually need to draft some early round guys. It's a joke to expect anything out of McCain and Quin at this point.

We've relied too heavily on UDFA's and guys off the street for too long and now it's biting us in the @$$.

I guess my point is that it doesn't matter if it's the coaches or the players because Gary Kubiak signed off on everyone on the roster.
 
Mr teX said:
We blitzed Sanchez all day & he beat us. we also blitzed Collins & Gerrard a pretty good amount too. In all of these situations, we still got gashed with the run.
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Not on obvious passing situations we didn't. They relied on their front 4 in all of the 3rd and longs. The Jets have one of the best o-lines (4 first-round draft picks) in the NFL. You'll have a hard time getting to their qb with only 4 people trying to get to him. Garrard had 5-7 seconds on all of his 3rd and longs Sunday. The 5- and 6-man rushes were few and far between.
 
Mr. White said:
I guess I go back to the 07 season when they got lucky on some street free agents. They got lucky on guys like Will Demps, Anthony Maddox, and Cedric Killings.

The patchwork philosophy worked for a couple of years, but at some point, you actually need to draft some early round guys. It's a joke to expect anything out of McCain and Quin at this point.

We've relied too heavily on UDFA's and guys off the street for too long and now it's biting us in the @$$.

I guess my point is that it doesn't matter if it's the coaches or the players because Gary Kubiak signed off on everyone on the roster.
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You only have a pick a round. Every year since Andre Johnson they've drafted for defense first. The problem is during the Casserly years, they built a HORRIBLE defense, and we're still trying to recover. I'm not trying to make excuses but it's fact. My God, everyone (me included) wanted Bush or Young in '06. Can you IMAGINE how bad we'd be if we didn't at LEAST have Mario? If you draft for the secondary, you don't have Mario. You don't have Demeco. You don't have Okoye. You don't have Cushing. The defense was/is so God-awful personnel-wise, it truly will take a couple more years still to right it. Yes, we are pathetic in the secondary, but this isn't fantasy football. You don't get to draft Top-10 talent at skill positions for 4 rounds in a row. It's a damn good thing we have Kubiak and Lil' Shanny running the offense they do so we can at least stay competitive for most games.
 
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