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Kevin Walter Penalty
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Dread-Head
Hall of Fame
Bull$h:t!!!!
TheIronDuke
All Pro
It would've gone to OT anyways where we'd lose the flip and then JAX would march down the field with ease with our D laying on the ground after 11 failed arm tackles.
But yes, that was a BS call. We still could've tied it again but we fumbled it.
But yes, that was a BS call. We still could've tied it again but we fumbled it.
New_Texans
Rookie
Horrible call.
That was not the reason we lost this game. Had we scored that TD, what are the chances that we stop their offense from scoring on the next possession.
This team came out flat again today. We play an incredible, hard fought battle in Tenn and come out with the same lifeless effort again. I just can't believe this team can't turn the corner. How many more years are we going to have to deal with this crap?
This team came out flat again today. We play an incredible, hard fought battle in Tenn and come out with the same lifeless effort again. I just can't believe this team can't turn the corner. How many more years are we going to have to deal with this crap?
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
Exactly. don't blame the loss on a last second call. If our defense had been playing today we wouldn't have been in a position for that call to have mattered.
New_Texans
Rookie
We did until the horsecollar came...i mean wasnt it a week ago where Schaub was horsecollared on a sack in Ten but that was a no call...how is this one different? If you are going to call penalties. Please. Be. Consistent.
jaayteetx
All Pro
I believe if your not going forward, its not a penalty, thats why.
Wolf
100% Texan
they said Schaub wasn't going forward when he got it...
To me a horse collar is a horse collar and should have been a penalty on the Titans
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jaayteetx
All Pro
No, not even close, ref is part of the field, those things happen, making a blatenly horrible call, BS!!!
valleytexfan
Veteran
Agreed. He has the right to set up shop in the end zone or anywhere for that matter. Poor call.
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
I don't know how that was a pass intereference. Could the ref not see Walter looking back at the damn ball and then run into the defender? Like seriously....our defense sucked, but the refs were equally as bad.
New_Texans
Rookie
In the case of Mario williams, how is he suppose to make that determination while going in for the tackle? At the time Mario initially engaged Drew, he was going laterally not forward. I understand how that can be implemented in cases like the Terrell Owens situation that created the rule...but yeah...**** it...blame the defense for the game overall they were horrible.
jaayteetx
All Pro
Doesn't matter, he horse collared him. Too bad too, he would've been stopped regardless, IMO.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
As long as we mindlessly lay down the money for a poor product.
MEGA SWATT
All Pro
agreed.
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
I mean, the season isn't over, but that was such a BS call.
jaayteetx
All Pro
You must've had a better angle than the rest of the world, no way I could tell. Bottom line, he didn't even get hit hard, hold on to the damn ball!!!!
It was clearly coming out before he crossed the line... he was obviously down however, before the ball came out as there were 2 jags laying on top oh his legs. I know you need conclusive evidence, but is it a stretch to assume that if two grown men are laying on your legs they are touching the ground?
mike
New_Texans
Rookie
They would have stopped him regardless of if Mario got him since Cushing, Ryans and Diles were right there waiting.
spurstexanstros
Texans Rising
really bad call...you had to know something was gonna happen to prevent a win.....sigh gonna be a long week.
The reason I have all but stopped watching the NBA is the officials play too big of a role in the outcome of the game. The officiating in the NFL is probably the best of any of the big 3... but games like this really leave a sour taste in my mouth. I couldn't believe that happened. They showed the replay and it was like "oops"...
Mike
Mike
hollywood_texan
All Pro
There were a lot of ticky tack calls by the refs (unnecessary roughness, hitting defensless receivers, etc.).
It's official the NFL is turning into the NBA and soon we will be seeing classic flops to get these ticky tack calls.
With all that said, the Texans still had their chances. The defense just couldn't hold anything.
It's official the NFL is turning into the NBA and soon we will be seeing classic flops to get these ticky tack calls.
With all that said, the Texans still had their chances. The defense just couldn't hold anything.
Malloy
Hall of Fame
When his right elbow toughes the ground, his hand is at the line, if he had the ball that far ahead it would have been a TD imo, you you're right, no definate proof of that
TexansSeminole
Hall of Fame
Regarding the horse collar rule, if the QB is in the pocket you can horse collar tackle. So that call in the Tenn game was correct. As was the call against Mario. Refs got that right.
Regarding the Walter PI penalty, I can see it. It's a pick play and Walter ran right into the defender late in the play. That's how the rules are, its not like the refs went outside the rule book to make the call. I know you don't want it to be a PI call, but it looked like a legitimate call to me. The defender was stopped dead in his tracks and basically was taken out of the play. It doesn't matter if he was going to be in position to break up the pass, that's just the rules.
Doesn't matter anyway, we have the worse defense in the league, maybe even worse than Detroit last year.
Regarding the Walter PI penalty, I can see it. It's a pick play and Walter ran right into the defender late in the play. That's how the rules are, its not like the refs went outside the rule book to make the call. I know you don't want it to be a PI call, but it looked like a legitimate call to me. The defender was stopped dead in his tracks and basically was taken out of the play. It doesn't matter if he was going to be in position to break up the pass, that's just the rules.
Doesn't matter anyway, we have the worse defense in the league, maybe even worse than Detroit last year.
IBleedTexans
Superbowl Bound
If you guys wanna blame the game on someone blame the game on fred bennet . This kid is horrible I've never liked his horrible coverage . He let a rookie open all game . Cut this sorry sob end of discussion
TheIronDuke
All Pro
[kubes]No, that's on me, I'm responsible for getting the kids ready and he wasn't ready for what they were throwing at us out there.[/kubes]
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
Yeah, but Walter was looking back for the ball...
Malloy
Hall of Fame
Time for a quiz, what defeat spawned that statement.
And the correct answer is... ALL OF THEM :I
bah007
Hall of Fame
We already see it when punters and QBs try to draw personal fouls.
Regarding this game, yes there were a few calls that didn't go our way, but we weren't "cheated" by the refs. That's just a lame excuse.
We blew this game ourselves with inconsistent play and making our biggest mistakes in situations where we couldn't afford any.
Unless we demand more as fans this same garbage is going to keep happening. This is our eighth season, it is time for the excuses to stop.
TheIronDuke
All Pro
Wow, you're really putting yourself out there on that statement. I was going to blame Toby the assistant equipment manager but now I'm starting to see your point.
Norg
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
No the equipment was fine has u seen slaton helmet did not come off usually his helmet comes off like 3 times a game last year this year ZERO times
Disagree. Our defense, or lack of a defense is the reason we lost. And it's also the reason why we're probably not even going to have a winning record this year.
dickieb
Waterboy
Good maybe we will have a high draft pick that we can use on a D-lineman - I think that's all we need to win the Superbowl next year.
mariowillshine15
All Pro
Well to our downfall it was heard today. Im starting to feel sick again.
Good thing is if i need to run to the bathroom to puke and the Texans D is in my way i would just run right through them.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
A troup of sleepwalking girl scouts could make it through the Texans D.
You know there are a lot of people saying that the Texans should have played better and this crap penalty wouldn't have mattered, and they'd be right. But I call Bullshit on writing this off. It's easy to just say oh well, bad call, but they shouldn't have been in that position. Good teams still play down to their opponents on occasion, but they stay in the game, Houston was still in the game. They lost the oppurtunity to win when the officials made a stupid ass call. On any given Sunday any one can win, that's why they take the field, but that field should be fair, this is a prime example of why there should be some kind of instant replay.
I could never be a HC in the NFL, because if I were Kubiak I would have punched one of those jack asses in the face. Kubiaks ass might be on the line, and games like this could be the difference between him staying and not. Come monday those idiots that made that call will probably not be thinking about losing their jobs.
I say Houston should have a Battle Black and White Day, because they were the clear victors Sunday.
I could never be a HC in the NFL, because if I were Kubiak I would have punched one of those jack asses in the face. Kubiaks ass might be on the line, and games like this could be the difference between him staying and not. Come monday those idiots that made that call will probably not be thinking about losing their jobs.
I say Houston should have a Battle Black and White Day, because they were the clear victors Sunday.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
I agree, but it happens all the time. It was a judgment call that ultimately decided the outcome of the game. Kinda weak if you ask me.
But, we obviously know what the real problem was and it's been beat to death.
Second Honeymoon
Hall of Fame
It was pretty blatant to be honest. In real time, its hard to tell but it only shows how good some of these refs are at their job. Walter was just trying to give his team a chance to win but he tried to get over and got caught. Tough call at home but it was the right call.
The fumble can be blamed on 2 things. #1 Brown. #2 not having a goal line camera on Sunday's game. That is just pathetic. There was no angle given that showed football and knee at same time. A goal line camera would have done the job methinks. I think the Competition Committee has to mandate a goal line camera on both ends for every regular and postseason game.
They couldn't overturn the call based on the video evidence. You have to have both items in view in the same camera angle. The only way they could do it is to timestamp each angle and then they could compare two different angles at the same time if both werent visible in one angle.
Get it done, Goodell.
The fumble can be blamed on 2 things. #1 Brown. #2 not having a goal line camera on Sunday's game. That is just pathetic. There was no angle given that showed football and knee at same time. A goal line camera would have done the job methinks. I think the Competition Committee has to mandate a goal line camera on both ends for every regular and postseason game.
They couldn't overturn the call based on the video evidence. You have to have both items in view in the same camera angle. The only way they could do it is to timestamp each angle and then they could compare two different angles at the same time if both werent visible in one angle.
Get it done, Goodell.
Vinny
shiny happy fan
but it happened RIGHT IN FRONT of the Ref....how does he not call it? I agree that it didn't lose the game for us.
TexansSeminole
Hall of Fame
Yup, it looked pretty obvious to me when they showed the replay during the game.