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BUT BUT BUT....It's only preseason....gag.

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I swear to god......I'm going off on the next ***** who tries to play the "preseason" card! Y'all can keep that crap to yourselves. Everything we watched and worried about during this preseason happened. But but but..

We got gashed for runs......Slaton is FAT (ignore it all yall want).....and we can't stop the run.

The Lions going 4-0 last preseason was the worst thing that could've happened....because it caused IDIOTS to reference that crap....which is sad
 
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where the hell are all the "preseason" dopes?

Show yourselves, I mean...but...


Slaton can't carry his own weight

most of them are asleep. I'd be asleep also but I just cleaned up the .com's board and it took a little too much time reading different versions of "my post can beat up your post", to suit my tastes tonight. A few meanies and first time cussers tickling the keyboards tonight. :photos:
 
I swear to god......I'm going off on the next ***** who tries to play the "preseason" card! Y'all can keep that crap to yourselves. Everything we watched and worried about during this preseason happened. But but but..

We got gashed for runs......Slaton is FAT (ignore it all yall want).....and we can't stop the run.

The Lions going 4-0 last preseason was the worst thing that could've happened....because it caused IDIOTS to reference that crap....which is sad

Thank you for saying what I have been thinking so well:goodpost:
 
Offense and defense if you ask me.

I was one of "them" that was flamed for criticiziing the"preseason" argument; Dunta's motivations and remaining abilities-to-money ratio; bad, soft-looking, non-tackling D; STs play; Slaton's weight gain-to-perfomance ratio; schaub's injury readiness and overall ability to lead this offense; the team's discipline (poor execution, penalties and taunting????) in general and it's contribution assigned to the coach; the play calling by the O.............It's time to see what is there..........NOT what we all WANT to see...........that does not make for bad fans..........just realistic ones. :texflag:
 
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I swear to god......I'm going off on the next ***** who tries to play the "preseason" card! Y'all can keep that crap to yourselves. Everything we watched and worried about during this preseason happened. But but but..

We got gashed for runs......Slaton is FAT (ignore it all yall want).....and we can't stop the run.

The Lions going 4-0 last preseason was the worst thing that could've happened....because it caused IDIOTS to reference that crap....which is sad

We did not get run on the way New Orleans & Minnesota ran on us. We stopped the run up the middle, on all but two plays, and they tried to run up the gut a lot more than that.

Pass defense sucked. That's a hold over from the pre-season, that we don't seem to have done much about. & our pass rush looked worse than it did in the pre-season.

Offensively, our starters looked much worse than it did in the preseason. Our pass pro looked much worse. I don't think there was anything this pre-season, that hinted our passing game was going to be so inept.

Running the ball..... yep. We're still making the same mistakes that killed our running game for the last two years. But for some reason the coaches can't get a hold of it. & the fans blast the only two linemen that are doing what they're supposed to be doing, Myers & Briesel.

I still agree, that Wins & Losses don't mean squat in the pre-season. But if you're not playing good fundamental football (i.e. tackling) then that is the time to address it. We didn't.
 
where the hell are all the "preseason" dopes....

Well, me I guess. I wasn't terrified because I thought we had some guys that could play real football when real football started up....I swear we used to have a guy named Andre Johnson on the team. And an Oline that was starting to look up.
 
The only dopes are people who think pre-season football=regular season football. It's not the same game.

The Texans sucked yesterday because they suck, not because they sucked in pre-season where 22-25 or so players played who were not on the team Sunday.

The pre-season isn't a precursor to anything no matter how much the Texans make it seem that way.
 
NEWSFLASH - the Texans have been soft for three seasons now. Maybe more. Nothing new. If you are soft and you lose, you're soft. If you're soft and you somehow win 8 games two years in a row - you're a finesse team.
 
most of them are asleep. I'd be asleep also but I just cleaned up the .com's board and it took a little too much time reading different versions of "my post can beat up your post", to suit my tastes tonight. A few meanies and first time cussers tickling the keyboards tonight. :photos:

"tickling the keyboards" Ha, that's pretty funny. :spit:

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I swear to god......I'm going off on the next ***** who tries to play the "preseason" card! Y'all can keep that crap to yourselves. Everything we watched and worried about during this preseason happened. But but but..

We got gashed for runs......Slaton is FAT (ignore it all yall want).....and we can't stop the run.

The Lions going 4-0 last preseason was the worst thing that could've happened....because it caused IDIOTS to reference that crap....which is sad

Unfortunately we were right about how Slaton was looking. Not only has his burst looked slow, but the guy isn't finding holes and is dancing around for some reason now. Hopefully he turns it around though. Unfortunately I doubt it happens against the Titans.
 
I thought the defense looked a worlds better on 1st and 2nd down compared to preseason...3rd down not so much
 
where the hell are all the "preseason" dopes....


Slaton can't carry his own weight

Slaton's poor performance had more to do with the O-line than Slaton himself. Our O-line sucks. I agree with you about the folks that claim "it's only preseason" as an excuse for poor play. If you practice like crap your going to play like crap. This game was an embarassment. They had 6 weeks to prepare for this game and knew last year that the O-line sucked but did nothing to fix it. This loss is on the coaching staff, very poor preperation.
 
Slaton's poor performance had more to do with the O-line than Slaton himself. Our O-line sucks. I agree with you about the folks that claim "it's only preseason" as an excuse for poor play. If you practice like crap your going to play like crap. This game was an embarassment. They had 6 weeks to prepare for this game and knew last year that the O-line sucked but did nothing to fix it. This loss is on the coaching staff, very poor preperation.

Where the hell is Slaton supposed to run when 300 pound lineman are breathing down his neck as soon as the ball is snapped?
 
Slaton's poor performance had more to do with the O-line than Slaton himself. Our O-line sucks. I agree with you about the folks that claim "it's only preseason" as an excuse for poor play. If you practice like crap your going to play like crap. This game was an embarassment. They had 6 weeks to prepare for this game and knew last year that the O-line sucked but did nothing to fix it. This loss is on the coaching staff, very poor preperation.

Slaton doesn't have the burst he had last year......he packed on almost 20 pounds and at that weight he's just a average running back. Slaton is responsible for his crappy performance just like the Oline is. He also danced in the backfield and didn't hit the hole, that's the reason why as soon as Chris Brown got the ball, he was able to run better.
 
How about up the middle and not dancing around in the backfield....how about the same place Chris Brown ran?

Watch all Brown's runs, he had better blocking. Believe me dude I had this same thought and rewound it on my DVR. Brown had way better blocking on his runs.
 
Watch all Brown's runs, he had better blocking. Believe me dude I had this same thought and rewound it on my DVR. Brown had way better blocking on his runs.

:rolleyes:

Yep the Oline just decided to do their jobs when Brown came into the game..........just like they did during preseason.
 
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Yep the Oline just decided to do their jobs when Brown came into the game..........just like they did during preseason.

No, the plays were better calls than the Jets defensive plays those 3 times. Brown actually had holes to run through. Slaton had 300 pound lineman to run through.
 
No, the plays were better calls than the Jets defensive plays those 3 times. Brown actually had holes to run through. Slaton had 300 pound lineman to run through.

Slaton had holes if he ran with authority, instead he danced in the backfied and has clearly lost a step due to his weight gain.....nobody needs to make excuses for his crappy play.
 
Slaton had holes if he ran with authority, instead he danced in the backfied and has clearly lost a step due to his weight gain.....nobody needs to make excuses for his crappy play.

What game tape are you looking at? What holes did Slaton have? Your the anti-Myers bandwagon driver, did you not notice him and Pitts laying on their asses in our backfield before Slaton was handed the ball?
 
Granted it was a small sample size, but Chris Brown just flat outplayed Slaton yet got all of 3 carries? Where the hell was this coaching staff? Were they at the game? Someone call Kubes on the damn cell phone and wake his ass up. He is flat out asleep at the wheel. Why the hell can't we get a coach that acts like is freaking even aware of what the hell is going on.
 
What game tape are you looking at? What holes did Slaton have? Your the anti-Myers bandwagon driver, did you not notice him and Pitts laying on their asses in our backfield before Slaton was handed the ball?

umm......what game tape am I looking at???? How about the actual damn game, you now the game were Slaton got outplayed by his backup and played like crap, stop being a freaking homer.
 
umm......what game tape am I looking at???? How about the actual damn game, you now the game were Slaton got outplayed by his backup and played like crap, stop being a freaking homer.

Homer? Our line was horrible and so was our coaching? Wheres the homerism?
 
I posted this in ANOTHER thread that is just like this.

This game has nothing todo with our pre-season games.

In pre-season it was our D that looked horrible and our offense that looked promising.

That is not what happend in yesterdays game, enough with this pre-season drama talk.
 
I posted this in ANOTHER thread that is just like this.

This game has nothing todo with our pre-season games.

In pre-season it was our D that looked horrible and our offense that looked promising.

That is not what happend in yesterdays game, enough with this pre-season drama talk.

BS.

All of you "it's just preseason" dopes are nitpicking. Whenever someone tried to express a concern about anything during the preseason, we got this "it's just preseason" crap.

Try that BS next preseason . . . :goodluck:
 
Homer? Our line was horrible and so was our coaching? Wheres the homerism?

You watched it on your DVR. The holes I saw on my DVR, that Brown ran through were no bigger than the holes Slaton didn't run through. Brown made a decision, got skinny & ran North. Steve never did. Brown also has the benefit of being able to break arm tackles.

Not saying Steve wasn't strong last year, but that was a different guy on the field last night. If you think for whatever reason that all the good plays happened to be called when Brown was in the game... then there's got to be a little Homerism in there.

I said a little.

I posted this in ANOTHER thread that is just like this.

This game has nothing todo with our pre-season games.

In pre-season it was our D that looked horrible and our offense that looked promising.

That is not what happend in yesterdays game, enough with this pre-season drama talk.

You were wrong then, and you're wrong now. For example.... Seminole. The announcers were expecting it. We weren't. Miami came in here with that crap on their way to 11-5. But we stopped it here at Reliant. Why? because we were prepared.

& the run blocking in the Preseason was pathetic. They did not correct that problem.

& Cotton hurt his ankle in the last preseason game. After the offense looked "promising".
 
You watched it on your DVR. The holes I saw on my DVR, that Brown ran through were no bigger than the holes Slaton didn't run through. Brown made a decision, got skinny & ran North. Steve never did. Brown also has the benefit of being able to break arm tackles.

Not saying Steve wasn't strong last year, but that was a different guy on the field last night. If you think for whatever reason that all the good plays happened to be called when Brown was in the game... then there's got to be a little Homerism in there.

I said a little.



You were wrong then, and you're wrong now. For example.... Seminole. The announcers were expecting it. We weren't. Miami came in here with that crap on their way to 11-5. But we stopped it here at Reliant. Why? because we were prepared.

& the run blocking in the Preseason was pathetic. They did not correct that problem.

& Cotton hurt his ankle in the last preseason game. After the offense looked "promising".


I agree Slaton was bad yesterday but Brown for durability purposes should remain the 2nd back. And I'm just not on this Slaton is fat and will have a horrible year this year bandwagon, I think by years end his YPC with be at or around where it was last year.
 
I agree Slaton was bad yesterday but Brown for durability purposes should remain the 2nd back. And I'm just not on this Slaton is fat and will have a horrible year this year bandwagon, I think by years end his YPC with be at or around where it was last year.

In no way do I want to increase Browns work load. Not until December, when games really count. Well, for teams that are in the race anyway.

I'm still a Slaton fan, and would rather we fix our run blocking issues than fix Slaton.

In the meantime, I'd start Moats. If he's just going to follow Leach anyways... why not?
 
I guess with Slaton the coaches encourage the old military/government motto - "if it ain't broke fix it till it is". I am not a fan of the added weight to Slaton - it's supposed to make him more durable but he wasn't injured or injury prone last year. If anything it slows him down and makes him eaiser to catch from behind increasing the chances of injury. His chances avoiding injury increase if the defense can't catch him.
 
BS.

All of you "it's just preseason" dopes are nitpicking. Whenever someone tried to express a concern about anything during the preseason, we got this "it's just preseason" crap.

Try that BS next preseason . . . :goodluck:

You could have your concerns but pre-season was different.

Now this is the real deal and we saw something completely different from our team, unfortunately what we got was something worse than we saw in pre-season.
 
In no way do I want to increase Browns work load. Not until December, when games really count. Well, for teams that are in the race anyway.
Th NFL isn't like baseball where you have a bunch of games then a bunch of games that "mean something" later. The MLB is a marathon and the NFL is a sprint. All the games are important from the early games to the late games. One thing that makes this league so special (NCAA football also) is the fact that there is little margin for error and the season is so short that you can't afford to mail in any games. Hell, I could argue the early games are more important than the late games because if you aren't playing for something late in the year, what's the point?
 
Th NFL isn't like baseball where you have a bunch of games then a bunch of games that "mean something" later. The MLB is a marathon and the NFL is a sprint. All the games are important from the early games to the late games. One thing that makes this league so special (NCAA football also) is the fact that there is little margin for error and the season is so short that you can't afford to mail in any games. Hell, I could argue the early games are more important than the late games because if you aren't playing for something late in the year, what's the point?

Yet every team is going to a RBBC approach to extend the life & effectiveness of their running backs.
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/09/01/main/index.html?eref=sihpT1

Were you guys as surprised as I was to see who SI picked to win the AFCS? :fans:

I was surprised by that.

I honestly think the Texans will do better this week but the Titans are coming off a loss to the world champs... and of course that game went to overtime. It was a huge let down, never mind the fact that the Titans had a dropped td and two missed fg tries... there was an opprotunity to win and they blew it.

I expect the Titans to take their frustration out on the Texans.

Also, as you will see Sunday, Slaton will not have the success against the Tennessee run d he enjoyed last season. The Texans are going to look one dimensional in the respect that they won't run to set up the pass rather they will pass as a product of abandoning the run.

Unless there are batted/tipped balls or interceptions the Texans should make a game of it into the 3rd quarter, but I believe they are going to be playing from behind and that Tennessee will pound the rock and run down the clock and ultimately win the t.o.p.

I predict that the victory will be decisive but short of a blowout. The box score stats will likely be more telling than the final score.
 
I swear to god......I'm going off on the next ***** who tries to play the "preseason" card! Y'all can keep that crap to yourselves. Everything we watched and worried about during this preseason happened. But but but..

We got gashed for runs......Slaton is FAT (ignore it all yall want).....and we can't stop the run.

The Lions going 4-0 last preseason was the worst thing that could've happened....because it caused IDIOTS to reference that crap....which is sad

The problem is that the preseason is meaningless goes back WAY longer than this. I heard this stuff as a kid in the 70s and the !989 Cowboys went 4-0 before 1-16 and the 90s SB teams went 1-4 and 0-4 in preseasons and won SBs. It is a matter of talent and if your scheme is in place already. If you have the pieces and need to get young guys work it is meaningless. If you are still gelling and need to work on alot, then for some teams it can be productive.
 
BUT BUT BUT... The sky is falling.. gag...

We still can't run the ball and we're still making horrible defensive mistakes...just like preseason

Don't really see the point in bumping this thread. Even you can't deny we were lucky to win the game......it's not like we beat the crap out of the Titans.

But yeah, I'll gladly be wrong on this subject any day and I love the win today.
 
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We still can't run the ball and we're still making horrible decisions on defense...

Don't really see the point in bumping this thread. Even you can't deny we were lucky to win the game......it's not like we beat the crap out of the Titans.

But yeah, I'll gladly be wrong on this subject any day and I love the win today.

Whatever bro... we got beat by a team last week that looks dominate.. Might be the best D in the league. We didn't beat the crap out of the titans but we won on the road and that is what counts. I'm not saying we're going to the superbowl. But Like I always said, preseaon is NOT a measuring stick. And yeah, the Lions did go 4-0 last year in pre-season.
 
Whatever bro... we got beat by a team last week that looks dominate.. Might be the best D in the league. We didn't beat the crap out of the titans but we won on the road and that is what counts. I'm not saying we're going to the superbowl. But Like I always said, preseaon is NOT a measuring stick. And yeah, the Lions did go 4-0 last year in pre-season.

"Whatever bro" :rolleyes:

If you're going to bump this thread, how about you quote what I said in my post...

We got gashed for runs......Slaton is FAT (ignore it all yall want).....and we can't stop the run.

The Lions going 4-0 last preseason was the worst thing that could've happened....because it caused IDIOTS to reference that crap....which is sad

Let's see...

Gashed for runs....yeah, that happened AGAIN (Do you really want me to pull up C. Johnson's stats?)

and Steve Slaton still looks like crap and we still can't run the ball.......JUST like preseason.

(Granted the last sentence in that quote was mostly out of anger, but after that Jets game (that I went too) could you really blame me?)

When that changes please bump this thread, oh.......and I really do hope I see this thread get bumped then, because that will mean we fixed alot of MAJOR problems on this team. Seriously, I pray we fix those problems

Like I said above though.......glad we got the victory, I'll take that any way our team can get it, but it still doesn't change the fact that Houston made costly mistakes today that'll cause them to lose the majority of the time. We still have ALOT to work on....alot of mistakes to clean up.
 
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"Whatever bro" :rolleyes:

If you're going to bump this thread, how about you quote what I said in my post...



Let's see...

Gashed for runs....yeah, that happened (Do you really want me to pull up C. Johnson's stats?)

and Steve Slaton still looks like crap and we still can't run the ball.......JUST like preseason.

When that changes please bump this thread, oh.......and I really do hope I see this thread get bumped then, because that will mean we fixed alot of MAJOR problems on this team. Seriously, I pray we fix those problems

Like I said above though.......glad we got the victory, I'll take that any way our team can get it. We still have ALOT to work on.

Steve slaton doesn't look like crap, the run blocking looks like crap because no back could get any yards with the holes he is getting. Chris brown didn't do crap either behind those tiny holes.

And you know what, I'm not really worried about the run defense, because what the texans gave up on those long runs can probably be fixed with adjustments and concentration. I would have been alot more worried if the Texans gave up 7 yrd average on 25 plays than giving up the three big plays by Johnson. But I think the talent is finally there to stop the run. And no other back we face this year will have the breakaway speed Chris Johnson had. I really feel much better about out run defense so far than I did last year.
 
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We still can't run the ball and we're still making horrible defensive mistakes...just like preseason

Don't really see the point in bumping this thread. Even you can't deny we were lucky to win the game......it's not like we beat the crap out of the Titans.

But yeah, I'll gladly be wrong on this subject any day and I love the win today.

Yes, we were extremely lucky to rack up 360 passing yards with 4 TDs no interceptions, and no sacks against one of the premier defenses in the league.

Extremely lucky. Since we have no running game to speak of.
 
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