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Fire Chris Myers!!

eriadoc

eriadoc

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He deserves his own thread. He has sucked all day. The other linemen are doing their part to make the unit look bad, but Myers has gone above and beyond the call. Just put Caldwell in. He'll make some mental mistakes, but he won't get tossed aside by Jenkins like a rag doll.
 
Someone please make a mistake of Jenkins karate chopping Chris Meyers onto the ground and send it to Gibbs/Kubiak/Shannahan/McNair. That play looked like a fan stood in at center for Myers
 
eriadoc said:
He deserves his own thread. He has sucked all day. The other linemen are doing their part to make the unit look bad, but Myers has gone above and beyond the call. Just put Caldwell in. He'll make some mental mistakes, but he won't get tossed aside by Jenkins like a rag doll.
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Haha, you are on a roll Doc. Fire 'em all!!!!
 
I agree. I couldn't believe how Myers got thrown around like a rag-doll like that.

So no, it's not all on Schaub.

I was filled with dread today before the game began. I hate it when they prove out my worst fears.
 
Myers got absolutely destroyed out there today. I recall at least 5 plays where he was pushed into the backfield before anything could develop. Probably happened more but I got so frustrated I had to retreat to my laptop and check out my fantasy scores.
 
Chris Meyers is just a by-product of this outdated bullshit ZBS.

He was too small last year and he's too small again this year.

But I think I might have already mentioned that over here.
 
gtexan02 said:
Someone please make a mistake of Jenkins karate chopping Chris Meyers onto the ground and send it to Gibbs/Kubiak/Shannahan/McNair. That play looked like a fan stood in at center for Myers
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He was destroyed several times before that play. He sucks. Mr. Myers, if you're still trolling, I'm sorry. I'm sure he's a fine person and an upstanding young man ... but your son sucks at playing Center in the NFL.
 
Myers should be done here. He was a liability last season and nothing has changed.

Add a center to the list of players we need.

For the record I don't think it will make much difference though. The rest of the line are a bunch of softies who get pitched around like rag dolls. We're the first team in his entire coaching career that Alex Gibbs couldn't turn into a running powerhouse. Nice distinction to have isn't it.
 
eriadoc said:
He deserves his own thread. He has sucked all day. The other linemen are doing their part to make the unit look bad, but Myers has gone above and beyond the call. Just put Caldwell in. He'll make some mental mistakes, but he won't get tossed aside by Jenkins like a rag doll.
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Breisal (sp?) didnt exactly dominate either. He wiffed several times too. Im starting to think this ZB system is good against weaker teams but isnt capable of taking us where we really want to go. We just get ***** sllapped against the top defenses. Even when we do move the ball we cant score.
 
Hervoyel said:
We're the first team in his entire coaching career that Alex Gibbs couldn't turn into a running powerhouse. Nice distinction to have isn't it.
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I don't have the energy for the discussion right now, but I'm going to bring this up later when we're discussing talent vs. coaching. Because I'm completely flummoxed.
 
mussop said:
Breisal (sp?) didnt exactly dominate either. He wiffed several times too. Im starting to think this ZB system is good against weaker teams but isnt capable of taking us where we really want to go. We just get ***** sllapped against the top defenses. Even when we do move the ball we cant score.
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As I said in the first post, the rest of the line did their part to make the unit look bad. It's just that Myers went above and beyond. He's the poster child.
 
was funny seeing Schaub wear a 300 lb NYJ lineman around his neck the whole game, yet still a "Bench Schaub" thread pops up.

next season, mandatory football IQ tests for everyone before posting priviliges are given?
 
gtexan02 said:
Someone please make a mistake of Jenkins karate chopping Chris Meyers onto the ground and send it to Gibbs/Kubiak/Shannahan/McNair. That play looked like a fan stood in at center for Myers
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He did it to Pitts at least once too. Just swung his armed and knocked him away. I have to give the guy credit - he's got a lot of strength.
 
Silver Oak said:
was funny seeing Schaub wear a 300 lb NYJ lineman around his neck the whole game, yet still a "Bench Schaub" thread pops up.

next season, mandatory football IQ tests for everyone before posting priviliges are given?
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But then how will we make fun of the Titan fans? :pop:
 
Is anyone really surprised by Myers' performance? I mean we drafted a Center in the third round because we did not like his play last year. If we were so high on Myers we would not spend a third rounder on a center, we could have gone in a different direction. Myers is a nice guy, but he is not a center. I have long maintained he is a Depth Guard not a starting center. Look for Caldwell to get some more snaps in practice.
 
I just can't believe the amount of times I saw Jenkins one on one. Who's schemes crap like that?
 
eriadoc said:
How is Frank Bush (our DC) scheming a one-on-one vs. Jenkins for our OL?
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This loss really has our fans in a state of vertigo. I think everyone was out schemed by the Jets today. I bet they even had a better game day itinerary.
 
Vinny said:
This loss really has our fans in a state of vertigo. I think everyone was out schemed by the Jets today. I bet they even had a better game day itinerary.
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They sure as hell had a better game day itinerary than I did. I laid off the beer today so I could do Calculus this evening. So not only did I have to suffer this crap sober, I still have to do Calculus homework. That is a bad itinerary.
 
awtysst said:
Is anyone really surprised by Myers' performance? I mean we drafted a Center in the third round because we did not like his play last year. If we were so high on Myers we would not spend a third rounder on a center, we could have gone in a different direction. Myers is a nice guy, but he is not a center. I have long maintained he is a Depth Guard not a starting center. Look for Caldwell to get some more snaps in practice.
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I can't say I was surprised. I was one of those really pushing to draft Mack or Unger this past year, since I thought C was about the weakest spot on our team. I'm glad they at least got Caldwell, but it's disappointing to me that they haven't tried to (or haven't been able to?) push him harder into becoming the starting center. In fact, it seems to me they've used him more as a depth guard at this point...
 
eriadoc said:
They sure as hell had a better game day itinerary than I did. I laid off the beer today so I could do Calculus this evening. So not only did I have to suffer this crap sober, I still have to do Calculus homework. That is a bad itinerary.
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Pretty close behind you on that thought at least I'm doing Anthropology as opposed to calculus.

I'm still wondering why we didn't try more no huddle to try and tired the big guys up front out instead of lumbering to the line and letting them suck air. It's also pitiful knowing your OC knows he's throwing your starting center to the lions and not do anything about it.

I mean if you have to double team the guy and bring in Hill as an extra man on that side. This staff has no clue how to make in game or half time adjustments.
 
Goldensilence said:
Pretty close behind you on that thought at least I'm doing Anthropology as opposed to calculus.

I'm still wondering why we didn't try more no huddle to try and tired the big guys up front out instead of lumbering to the line and letting them suck air. It's also pitiful knowing your OC knows he's throwing your starting center to the lions and not do anything about it.

I mean if you have to double team the guy and bring in Hill as an extra man on that side. This staff has no clue how to make in game or half time adjustments.
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Our protection was incredibly weak the entire game. It looked the the Jets were bringing about 6 guys on every play and still double covering everyone we sent out. Its been a long time since our offense looked this inept. But at least we can always count on running the ball for -3 to 2 yards a pop.
 
We might as well play Caldwell...really can't get any worse after that game. I'm sure we will wait around and see how bad it can get though.
 
Goldensilence said:
I'm still wondering why we didn't try more no huddle to try and tired the big guys up front out instead of lumbering to the line and letting them suck air. It's also pitiful knowing your OC knows he's throwing your starting center to the lions and not do anything about it.

I mean if you have to double team the guy and bring in Hill as an extra man on that side. This staff has no clue how to make in game or half time adjustments.
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I have to agree with you. It seemed like they made no adjustments at all. They started to have some success with the screens & short dumps over the middle to the TE, but then went away from it & back to what was not working.

As for Myers, I agree with everyone that he's got to go. White did much better in the preseason than he did. Why not put White in at center & Cauldwell or Studdard in at RG next week? If nothing else, it'll send a strong message to all the guys that poor performance will not be tolerated.

Also, Busing needs to start over Ferguson as well.
 
Denver ran the same damn scheme right into Super Bowls. So don't tell me the ZBS won't work. It's not the scheme itself, it's something else. And as soon as I figure it out, I'll tell ya! :ant:
 
Porky said:
Denver ran the same damn scheme right into Super Bowls. So don't tell me the ZBS won't work. It's not the scheme itself, it's something else. And as soon as I figure it out, I'll tell ya! :ant:
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we need a steve atwater type at safety
:specnatz::smiliedance:
 
Vinny said:
I just can't believe the amount of times I saw Jenkins one on one. Who's schemes crap like that?
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And what NFL QB sees three men, standing up next to each other on the edge of the line, just twitching and revving their motors before the snap, and doesn't audible into a slant or some other hot route to beat the blitz?

Everyone on that field looked like they forgot how to play football today.

The coaches called ridiculously stupid, uneducated and ill-conceived plays.

The players were seemingly always at the wrong place at the wrong time.

And tackling was non-existent. Like it was all pre-season this year.

If I have to see Matt Schaub pout and throw those sulky puppy-dog eyes toward the sideline one more time....

MARK FREAKING SANCHEZ just ran circles around us with a rookie head coach at the wheels. I mean, what does that say about this group of players? They got schooled. All day.

Very little creative playcalling to get AJ and OD into sync early in the game. It's always 100% every-freaking-time going to be an unproductive day when the OC and the QB do not dial up AJ and OD on a consistent basis at the start of the game. You FIND ways to get the m the ball, instead of just ignoring them all day and acting like you can't do anything about it.

Busing deserves a Klondike bar. Mario was always near the play. The rest of them deserve to eat dookie.
 
Porky said:
Can he play center in the ZBS? Sign him up. Otherwise, can someone explain what a safety is going to do for the line? :cow:
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well they did stick anderson on defense for the last play of the half

so anything can happen LOL
 
Porky said:
Denver ran the same damn scheme right into Super Bowls. So don't tell me the ZBS won't work. It's not the scheme itself, it's something else. And as soon as I figure it out, I'll tell ya! :ant:
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That was 12 years ago with John Elway at QB. His running ability really was the difference in that game. Maybe we should draft Tebow next year. :thinking:
 
I told you guys that Kris Jenkins was dominant, I don't know how Myers normally plays. But I wouldn't judge him on his performance against Jenkins, he does this to everyone. If you 1 on 1 block him he'll destroy you. He has done it to probowl/elite centers and guards.
GL the rest of the way
 
K.Rhodes25 said:
I told you guys that Kris Jenkins was dominant, I don't know how Myers normally plays. But I wouldn't judge him on his performance against Jenkins, he does this to everyone. If you 1 on 1 block him he'll destroy you. He has done it to probowl/elite centers and guards.
GL the rest of the way
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Not to take anything away from Jenkins, but that is pretty much how Myers plays against any NT worth his salt.
 
yeah i seen bits of my DVR recording and on one play Jenkins pulled a ninja move on him and tossed him aside like a rag doll LOL and Matty got sacked

even the announcer was like thats amazing
 
K.Rhodes25 said:
I told you guys that Kris Jenkins was dominant, I don't know how Myers normally plays. But I wouldn't judge him on his performance against Jenkins, he does this to everyone. If you 1 on 1 block him he'll destroy you. He has done it to probowl/elite centers and guards.
GL the rest of the way
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In the words of Pedro Martinez; "I just tip my hat and call the Kris Jenkins my daddy". That is what Myers should be saying.
 
Porky said:
Denver ran the same damn scheme right into Super Bowls. So don't tell me the ZBS won't work. It's not the scheme itself, it's something else. And as soon as I figure it out, I'll tell ya! :ant:
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Yeah they did... in the late 90's. The league changes and people figure out how to stop schemes. Has this scheme changed much over the last ten years? If I'm not mistaken the Bronco's had been in decline for the last 3-4 years. Maybe this system is played out?

I think it's certainly possible.
 
Hervoyel said:
Yeah they did... in the late 90's. The league changes and people figure out how to stop schemes. Has this scheme changed much over the last ten years? If I'm not mistaken the Bronco's had been in decline for the last 3-4 years. Maybe this system is played out?

I think it's certainly possible.
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Good post. You are exactly right. The league has changed. The ZBS will not work. Myers sucks. If Kubiak continues to start him, he deserves to get fired.
 
Ckw5814 said:
Good post. You are exactly right. The league has changed. The ZBS will not work. Myers sucks. If Kubiak continues to start him, he deserves to get fired.
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Actually the ZBS COULD work. Indianapolis runs zone stretch plays all the
time. However, you need a CENTER who can hold the point of attack.
I've NEVER seen Jeff Saturday get blown off the ball like Myers.

Remember last year, when they played the Steelers? The Texans were in
the red zone, and Casey Hampton THROWS Myers into Slaton??
What the hell is that!!??
 
DexmanC said:
Actually the ZBS COULD work. Indianapolis runs zone stretch plays all the
time. However, you need a CENTER who can hold the point of attack.
I've NEVER seen Jeff Saturday get blown off the ball like Myers.

Remember last year, when they played the Steelers? The Texans were in
the red zone, and Casey Hampton THROWS Myers into Slaton??
What the hell is that!!??
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I guess I can go with that. I certainly agree that if it is ever going to work, you have got to have an anchor in the middle that holds the line together. Myers is certainly not that.
 
Hervoyel said:
Yeah they did... in the late 90's. The league changes and people figure out how to stop schemes. Has this scheme changed much over the last ten years? If I'm not mistaken the Bronco's had been in decline for the last 3-4 years. Maybe this system is played out?

I think it's certainly possible.
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O maybe we dont have a QB called John elway

we have Ben tob Scahub :dancer:
 
Ckw5814 said:
I guess I can go with that. I certainly agree that if it is ever going to work, you have got to have an anchor in the middle that holds the line together. Myers is certainly not that.
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Myers couldn't hold two sticky notes together.
 
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