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The All Encompassing FIRE KUBIAK & REPLACEMENT thread

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Marcus

Windmill cancer survivor
Contributor's Club
The game isn't over yet, but I've seen enough. And I don't want to EVER hear the words "It's only preseason" ever again.

I'm usually against these FIRE "you know who" threads, but when you let a rookie coach and rookie QB come into our house and embarrass us like this . . . yeah, someone deserves to go out the door.

This is disgusting how they never fail to disappoint.

And Herv, my apologies for calling you a "knee-jerk". You had a right to be depressed, because that's how I feel.
 
I did a practical shooting match this morning blowing through 100 rounds of .45acp, but now I have a hankerin to go back to the gun range. It would be so much easier if I could just care for the Steelers like everyone else up here.
 

Grid

All Pro
how do you get through life being this stupid? How did you even manage to navigate to this website?

I just dont see how it is feasible for someone of such low intellect to find us here... finding the Texans website I can understand..if you bang your face against the keyboard long enough I imagine there is a slim chance you might find the homepage.. but Texanstalk? and into the forum no less? color me baffled.

YOu had to have had help getting here...which means that someone who ISNT dumb enough to want to fire our coach in week one helped you to find this website...and whoever it is that did that, I just want to say shame on you. Im all for equal rights and the proper treatment of the intellectually challenged...but this is a place to have fun..all this arm flailing and running around in circles screaming is an unnecessary distraction.
 

swtbound07

Jackass of Day!
how do you get through life being this stupid? How did you even manage to navigate to this website?

I just dont see how it is feasible for someone of such low intellect to find us here... finding the Texans website I can understand..if you bang your face against the keyboard long enough I imagine there is a slim chance you might find the homepage.. but Texanstalk? and into the forum no less? color me baffled.

YOu had to have had help getting here...which means that someone who ISNT dumb enough to want to fire our coach in week one helped you to find this website...and whoever it is that did that, I just want to say shame on you. Im all for equal rights and the proper treatment of the intellectually challenged...but this is a place to have fun..all this arm flailing and running around in circles screaming is an unnecessary distraction.
Its not one week...its a pattern Grid.
 

Grid

All Pro
no it really is week 1... you want to scrap the whole season after ONE GAME.. you want to throw in the towel and go in to rebuilding mode after WEEK ONE.

Seriously..if you boys can sit there quietly and let the adults watch the game, maybe afterwards you can have graham crackers.
 

swtbound07

Jackass of Day!
no it really is week 1... you want to scrap the whole season after ONE GAME.. you want to throw in the towel and go in to rebuilding mode after WEEK ONE.

Seriously..if you boys can sit there quietly and let the adults watch the game, maybe afterwards you can have graham crackers.
Seriously, how bout you treat other peoples opinions with respect. We are all watching the same team here. You appear to be in denial to me.
 

houstonlibraria

Practice Squad
Kubiak was playing too scared today. You HAVE to onside kick that ball. You kick it deep and we see what happens.
That was a chicken call.
 

Mr. White

Retired OLine Coach
no it really is week 1... you want to scrap the whole season after ONE GAME.. you want to throw in the towel and go in to rebuilding mode after WEEK ONE.

Seriously..if you boys can sit there quietly and let the adults watch the game, maybe afterwards you can have graham crackers.
Just like week 1 every season. He gets outcoached every time.

Like SWT said, there's a pattern here. He's had his coaches, his draft picks, and even his GM.

I think it stands to reason that maybe the guy isn't a good coach.
 

eriadoc

Texan-American
I just dont see how it is feasible for someone of such low intellect to find us here... finding the Texans website I can understand..if you bang your face against the keyboard long enough I imagine there is a slim chance you might find the homepage.. but Texanstalk? and into the forum no less? color me baffled.

YOu had to have had help getting here...which means that someone who ISNT dumb enough to want to fire our coach in week one helped you to find this website...and whoever it is that did that, I just want to say shame on you. Im all for equal rights and the proper treatment of the intellectually challenged...but this is a place to have fun..all this arm flailing and running around in circles screaming is an unnecessary distraction.
Ban, IMO.
 

Marcus

Windmill cancer survivor
Contributor's Club
no it really is week 1... you want to scrap the whole season after ONE GAME.. you want to throw in the towel and go in to rebuilding mode after WEEK ONE.

Seriously..if you boys can sit there quietly and let the adults watch the game, maybe afterwards you can have graham crackers.
If you don't think this game is an indication of how the rest of this season is going to go, you're not paying attention.
 

Grid

All Pro
Seriously, how bout you treat other peoples opinions with respect. We are all watching the same team here. You appear to be in denial to me.
Nah.. we are sucking... and I dont know how you can come out in week one sucking this bad...and still have a good season.

I already feel like this season is gonna be lackluster and im just HOPING that we can go 9-7 and have our first winning season.

Playoffs are a pipe dream.


But im not stupid enough to say we need to fire kubiak after 1 week. You want to discuss the possibility of firing kubiak after this season? I have no issue discussing that. But after 1 week? Its just stupid.. why throw your season away after one week?

I say that I dont see how we can recover and have a playoff caliber season after a game this bad.. but im not prepared to say its impossible to do and throw the whole season away.
 

Grid

All Pro
Ban, IMO.
lol

go for it. Ive posted in this forum since its inception..and before that I was posting in the official forums since the site came up.

Ive supported this team through all the **** and have dealt with fools like this since the first season. They are moronic and a waste of space.. they dont have the mental fortitude to suppress their anger and make a logical complaint about what they saw, and what should be done about it.

But yes..ban ME.. because I was rude to them.. my offense is so horrendous that I should be exiled from the community. They on the other hand are worthwhile contributors?


Heh..whatever.. seriously go ahead and ban me. If you are going to embrace this kind of jackass mentality.. do me a favor and ban me. Id hate to get a wild hair up my butt and come back here.
 

Mr. White

Retired OLine Coach
SOSDD.


I've seen enough of bad defenses, I've seen enough of the Z "BS", I've seen enough of "yes men" coaches. I've seen enough of his soft teams.

Every year, Kubiak starts the year looking like a JV coach.

The bottom line is that the guy's a loser.
 

swtbound07

Jackass of Day!
lol

go for it. Ive posted in this forum since its inception..and before that I was posting in the official forums since the site came up.

Ive supported this team through all the **** and have dealt with fools like this since the first season. They are moronic and a waste of space.. they dont have the mental fortitude to suppress their anger and make a logical complaint about what they saw, and what should be done about it.

But yes..ban ME.. because I was rude to them.. my offense is so horrendous that I should be exiled from the community. They on the other hand are worthwhile contributors?


Heh..whatever.. seriously go ahead and ban me. If you are going to embrace this kind of jackass mentality.. do me a favor and ban me. Id hate to get a wild hair up my butt and come back here.
I am one of the they. And your attacking other posters. There is no need for this here. You can express your opinions without insulting others. Your not adding anything to the discussion
 

eriadoc

Texan-American
lol

go for it. Ive posted in this forum since its inception..and before that I was posting in the official forums since the site came up.

Ive supported this team through all the **** and have dealt with fools like this since the first season. They are moronic and a waste of space.. they dont have the mental fortitude to suppress their anger and make a logical complaint about what they saw, and what should be done about it.

But yes..ban ME.. because I was rude to them.. my offense is so horrendous that I should be exiled from the community. They on the other hand are worthwhile contributors?


Heh..whatever.. seriously go ahead and ban me. If you are going to embrace this kind of jackass mentality.. do me a favor and ban me. Id hate to get a wild hair up my butt and come back here.
Uhh, you're the one not suppressing your anger and showing your true colors. Other fans are upset because the team is playing like crap and they're venting, and that somehow gives you the right to not suppress your anger and launch personal attacks? You knew the rules when you started posting. They've been in place forever. You are the one who doesn't have the mental fortitude to control yourself.
 

Mr. White

Retired OLine Coach
Heh..whatever.. seriously go ahead and ban me. If you are going to embrace this kind of jackass mentality.. do me a favor and ban me. Id hate to get a wild hair up my butt and come back here.
Glad that the board inteligencia showed up and put everybody in line.

Capers, Casserly and Carr had supporters too when it was obvious to everyone else that they were a joke. I'm pretty sure you were among them.
 

Wolf

100% Texan
If you don't think this game is an indication of how the rest of this season is going to go, you're not paying attention.
I don't know Marcus..

we started out in 08 giving up
38,31,30,and 31 points and 0-4

to be determined how the next 4 will go
 

euro-Texan

Rookie
I am not advocating the firing of Kubiak TODAY. That would assure us a losing season. I think we need to realize that Kubiak is a coordinator out of his element. Unless of course his stratigy is for every upcoming team to overlook us then he's a genius.
 

gtexan02

Working?
Preseason is meaningless. Our run defense looked horrible in the preseason, but decent today. Our offensive line looked ok in the preseason, but horrific today. We've sucked in both, but for different reasons. A bad football is a bad football team
 

Grid

All Pro
Glad that the board inteligencia showed up and put everybody in line.

Capers, Casserly and Carr had supporters too when it was obvious to everyone else that they were a joke. I'm pretty sure you were among them.
Eh.. I supported Capers up until the last season.. but yah I wasnt alone in that.

Most of the best fans on these forums supported the team up until that last season.. which isnt to say they didnt express worry or anger.. but they didnt do it like this... and they didnt bash the team unnecessarily.

Uhh, you're the one not suppressing your anger and showing your true colors. Other fans are upset because the team is playing like crap and they're venting, and that somehow gives you the right to not suppress your anger and launch personal attacks? You knew the rules when you started posting. They've been in place forever. You are the one who doesn't have the mental fortitude to control yourself.
We are having the same conversation in two threads.

Ive been around long enough to know the difference between venting and being a moron. Venting is short lived.. being a moron lasts all season.

Anyway..i told ya id be leaving so im gonna get on that.
 

Hervoyel

BUENO!
no it really is week 1... you want to scrap the whole season after ONE GAME.. you want to throw in the towel and go in to rebuilding mode after WEEK ONE.

Seriously..if you boys can sit there quietly and let the adults watch the game, maybe afterwards you can have graham crackers.

I've been through this Grid for 7 freakin years. I don't want to talk to you about it because you were here too and you know damn well it isn't "after one game". It's after 3 years with Kubiak. If you're so busy watching the game with the adults what pray tell prompted you to poke your head into a thread like this?

No, wait a second. Check that. It's after 7 years. 7 years with the Texans.

Ever wonder why the Texans ALWAYS give you exactly what you're afraid you're going to get from them? EVERY SINGLE ****ING TIME?

They suck. They're a team of soft, unfocused players who work for a franchise that hasn't learned anything in 7 years. Everything you suspect they might be in the negative... THEY ARE!

We have a head coach who is not getting the job done BUT HE GETS FOREVER TO TRY AND CHANGE THAT!

We have an offensive coordinator who we are told is on the cusp of greatness BUT IN REALITY HE'S A FAVOR-HIRE WHO GOT THE JOB BECAUSE OF HIS LAST NAME!

We have a defensive coordinator who was promoted form within because he's supposedly going to be a good one BUT HIS DEFENSE PLAYS JUST AS POORLY AS THE ONE HE REPLACED!

Look, Gary Kubiak is in his fourth year and his team does the same **** it did four years ago. They can't tackle to save their lives. They can't protect the QB to save his life. Sure his "kids" all love to play for him. Hell I'd love a job where the coaches never pushed me out of my comfort zone and paid me millions of dollars a year to try hard. Does anybody really think Studdard stays on anyone's roster but ours? Chris Meyers is like one of those big stuffed animals. I watched Jets just pitch him out of the way today. Pitts is "our best" and by NFL standards he's crap. Anyone thinking that Chester Pitts will ever go to a Pro Bowl without a ticket is insane. With players like this it's no wonder we can't keep Schaub from getting stomped.

Speaking of our QB he's absolutely worthless unless he's playing a team that can't pressure the QB in a game that doesn't matter between teams playing out the string. Then he's money but if the game is against somebody who can actually get to him he's ****. He has to be stored in bubble wrap all season long if you want him to play more than 10-11 games.

Andre Johnson is wasted here. He'll get a ring someday with luck but I think it's almost a foregone conclusion that it won't be in a Texans uniform.

These guys are embarrassing and I'm tired of pretending that they're not. Every single good team we played last year humiliated us. Every single good team we play this year will do the exact same thing.

Tell me when in 7 years we've beaten a good team in a game that mattered to both them and us? The answer is never because we can't do it.

The Texans are Lucy in "Peanuts" holding that football and urging us to take a shot at kicking it. That's what this franchise asking for our support amounts to. They're always going to jerk that ball away at the last second but we get in here and we get excited about their worthless wins and garbage time statistics and keep coming back for more. We're ****ing stupid to be guzzling down this kool-aid. Why do we keep falling for it? What the hell is wrong with us? Our eyes see what's wrong and we convince ourselves that "It's only preseason" or "Well yeah but those were cheap shots - he's not really fragile", or "When he gets older he'll be worth the pick".

I know better than all of that but I got suckered in again just like I always seem to do.

Meanwhile other teams hire real coaches and real GM's who put together teams that progress. Nobody goes from bad to good slower than the Houston Texans. Hell, we haven't done it once yet.
 

Mr. White

Retired OLine Coach
Eh.. I supported Capers up until the last season.. but yah I wasnt alone in that.
And Casserly and Carr.

I'm pretty sure you called all the pink soap guys morons then too.

I guess that makes you a better fan. Hope the Kool-Aid tastes good.
 

euro-Texan

Rookie
for what it's worth my Mom just called me from reliant and said that in the 4th, McNair and company went to the field and walked Kubiak off the field. I don't think there is anything to this obviously, but my mom called (unusual) to tell me she thinks Kubiaks gone today. I don't think so but veryone in her section apparently thinks so.
 

Hervoyel

BUENO!
Just curious, how many times did Frank Bush's "extra-super aggressive" defense sack the rookie QB today?

Thought so. Same crap, different bobo in charge of that side. I see Amobi managed 4 tackles today. That's on the high side for him isn't it? How did Revis do against AJ? Good thing we chose the four year project teenager eh? Hey, who doesn't like to watch Rick Smith work his draft magic!
 

GP

Go Texans!
for what it's worth my Mom just called me from reliant and said that in the 4th, McNair and company went to the field and walked Kubiak off the field. I don't think there is anything to this obviously, but my mom called (unusual) to tell me she thinks Kubiaks gone today. I don't think so but veryone in her section apparently thinks so.
WTH?

LOL. Who would they get to replace him? Nobody. The guy who supposedly is calling the shots on offense can't even let his QB audible out of a play that gets him killed (when there was three blitzers to one side and nobody to pick them up). I mean, it was like the OC and the offense were DRUGGED today. They stayed in quicksand all day long. And even when they did something positive (Slaton's doofus play) they still managed to foul it up.

I'm not ragging on what your mom said. I'm sure she saw what she saw.

But I would wager that Bob wants to see how everyone on that team reacts in the locker room. And to possibly say something to someone (to a coach, to some players, or the whole team).

I've read a lot of the venting posts today. I am upset, too. I won't lecture anybody on here. Today was a bad day, as it has been every year on opening day for us. Pretty hard to put a positive spin on it.
 

Wolf

100% Texan
Just curious, how many times did Frank Bush's "extra-super aggressive" defense sack the rookie QB today?

Thought so. Same crap, different bobo in charge of that side. I see Amobi managed 4 tackles today. That's on the high side for him isn't it? How did Revis do against AJ? Good thing we chose the four year project teenager eh? Hey, who doesn't like to watch Rick Smith work his draft magic!
well in all fairness our secondary didn't help that super aggressive defense

our safeties suck ass
 

euro-Texan

Rookie
WTH?

LOL. Who would they get to replace him? Nobody. The guy who supposedly is calling the shots on offense can't even let his QB audible out of a play that gets him killed (when there was three blitzers to one side and nobody to pick them up). I mean, it was like the OC and the offense were DRUGGED today. They stayed in quicksand all day long. And even when they did something positive (Slaton's doofus play) they still managed to foul it up.

I'm not ragging on what your mom said. I'm sure she saw what she saw.

But I would wager that Bob wants to see how everyone on that team reacts in the locker room. And to possibly say something to someone (to a coach, to some players, or the whole team).

I've read a lot of the venting posts today. I am upset, too. I won't lecture anybody on here. Today was a bad day, as it has been every year on opening day for us. Pretty hard to put a positive spin on it.
AS opposed to? Look I was just putting out what I was told. I knew I was going to take a beating before I hit submit
 

m5kwatts

Veteran
If Kubiak was even close to being fired he'd be calling every offensive play.... he's got a long leash believe it or not and this really wasn't his fault. The players have to get it done eventually and so does the offensive coordinator.
 

thunderwolf

Practice Squad
I think everyone needs to calm down a little bit, although I understand because I'm completely pissed and am in the middle of Cowboy country. It sucks to see every other student in this area celebrating and my room mate happy as I sit around read boards and try to come up with a reason to believe in the Houston Texans.
Maybe I'm just young, but I never got to really have a team in Houston to begin with. Even on days that suck for the Texans, I remember that atleast I have a team now and don't have to half heartedly root for the Cowboys who I was forced to grow up with because the Oilers left.
We've got a team, we've got a team that could be good, and from what I saw from the defense I can atleast keep some hope alive.
Kyle Shanahan probably isn't fit to be an OC at the moment, Kubiak needs to realize that and reclaim the offense that was so great with a decent defense and get it done. I don't want to jump the gun on firing Kubiak, I like the guy and have always hoped that McNair planned on running this franchise like the Steelers who keep a coach and let them build and continually compete. This team has made progress and gotten better talent wise, but if that doesn't show in wins then the coaching staff needs to be purged.
I always felt like we were a quarterback away, then a player away, now I wonder if we are just a coach away from greatness. I won't ever forget what Kubiak and Smith have done in building this team into a competitive one now, but if they can't get it done then McNair will have to get someone else.
I'm sure there are lots of coaches out there (Shanahan, Cowher) who would love to come back to bring a team with so much talent into the promise land.
 

Hervoyel

BUENO!
Our luck they will hire Shanahan SR.:mcnugget:

Oh no doubt. McNair has screwed up twice already. I've seen no indication that the guy has learned anything in 7 years and I have no faith that he'll get it right on the third try.

I don't think Kubiak makes it to the end of the year. I think we might be looking at our first "interim head coach" at some point this season.
 

FirstTexansFan

The Unknown Fan
It's a sad day for me. This team could with little effort win fans, if they could only win games. I believe Mr. McNair wants a winner as badly as we the fans do, but it's time to get off the pot or pee. Fire'em all, bring in Cower. I'm sick of supporting this team.
 

LonerATO

All Pro
If Kubiak was even close to being fired he'd be calling every offensive play.... he's got a long leash believe it or not and this really wasn't his fault. The players have to get it done eventually and so does the offensive coordinator.
Then he should just take over the play calling and demote Shanny
 

Trail.Blazr

Hooked up to a Kool-Aid IV
Fire Kube's??? you kidding... this was a TEAM loss. NOBODY showed up to play football today.

At one point the broadcast highlighted a 10 year old boy in the stands and suggested he could help the texans... are you kidding me? That's a total slap in the face to any man on the field.. which if any of them take exception, need to be slapped anyway.

I'm gonna call it like I see it... these girls in Texans uni's that showed up today obviously thought they didn't need to play today. That's not the HC's fault.. the ladies on the field play the game and get paid TOOO much to perform as sadly they did today.





 

mussop

Hall of Fame
Fire Kube's??? you kidding... this was a TEAM loss. NOBODY showed up to play football today.

At one point the broadcast highlighted a 10 year old boy in the stands and suggested he could help the texans... are you kidding me? That's a total slap in the face to any man on the field.. which if any of them take exception, need to be slapped anyway.

I'm gonna call it like I see it... these girls in Texans uni's that showed up today obviously thought they didn't need to play today. That's not the HC's fault.. the ladies on the field play the game and get paid TOOO much to perform as sadly they did today.





Hate to break this to you but player performance is a reflection of the coaching.
 

Spike

Waterboy
I don't think it is realistic that Kubes is gone during the season, but I think after the pre-season and this first game, he is going to have to get this team above .500 to keep his job.

I like Kubes and really want him to succeed. I like him so much, I wanted to believe that basic things like clock management would get better with time. I wanted to believe that we had such far inferior talent that we weren't competitive in certain games.

I am not an x's and o's guy, but based on the body of work, it just seems that Kubes doesn't prepapre his team well. We don't look like we are ready to play from the first snap, which also indicates that he can't get these guys motivated.

I don't think we are that far away talent-wise. I think that our coaching staff regular gets out-done. It is time to be honest about it.
 
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