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did the colts help or hurt themselves this draft??

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keyfro

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they traded out of the 1st round to get these players:

bob sanders ss iowa
ben hartsock te ohio st.
gilbert gardner olb pur
kendyll pope olb fsu
jason david cb wsu
jake scott ot idaho
von hutchins cb miss
jim sorgi qb wis
david kimball k psu

their first two picks are horrible...how many safeties and tight ends do they need?...these were not the bpa when they picked either...all in all the indy fans have to be upset by these picks...they really needed a solid corner and some DL help
 
It shouldn't affect them. They bettered their defense, and added some depth on offense. I'm sure Dungy knows what to do on defense. Plus, they have a good OC over there in Moore. They still have Manning, E James, Harrison, Pollard. A good team, and they just added onto it with the draft.
 
well that is for this year...but they also have to find away to re-sign marvin harrison and e-james this offseason...it just seems to me that they would have been better off picking players at positions that they didn't have that much depth at...safety and tight end have to be some of their deepest positions
 
Well maybe they have much bigger plans that you don't know of. Maybe there focusing on a year at a time. I wouldn't be surprised to see them go to the Super Bowl this year as long as they stay healthy.
 
The Colts had, argubly, the least productive draft in the entire NFL. But keyfro made a good point, they have to resign their Franchise's favorite WR and one of the best in the business in Harrison.
 
The Colts did nothing to improve their team. It was the defense that let them down for the last few years, and again they drafted no one of significance to aid the team. THis is great news for us, but for them Dungy needs to make some key trades to free up money and get a defense that can help Manning and Harrison out!
 
I think it was a horrible draft. Now they have 2 safetys that are 5'10 or smaller. I just cant believe some of the players they passed on. Some good talent.
 
Dungy is all about speed. People questioned his drafting of Freeney, and we have all seen what he can do. I think the Colts draft differently than most teams because they have different needs on defense.
 
I think the Colts did an excellent job drafting to help the Texans catch and replace them as the top team in the division within the next 3 years. Keep up the great work Dungy. :jumpbanan
 
TheOgre said:
Dungy is all about speed. People questioned his drafting of Freeney, and we have all seen what he can do. I think the Colts draft differently than most teams because they have different needs on defense.
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Different needs? like what? Smallish DB's? You better have one damn good defense to start drafting little safetys. And the last time I looked, people were destroying that D.
 
I give them 10 wins at most, and that's awfully generous. This would be due to the defense of course. The Colts defense wasn't strong last year and will be even worse this coming season IMO. They're going to open their season with a loss against the Pats. I think it'll be a blow out.
 
That sounds more like wishful thinking than reality. I still think the Colts are the best in our division right now.
 
BTW S Doss was very productive last year for the Colts. He definitely contributed more than Joppru did for us.
 
TheOgre said:
BTW S Doss was very productive last year for the Colts. He definitely contributed more than Joppru did for us.
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And that makes it ok? Because he was more productive than an injured player?

Besides, thats not the point. The point is that they have 2 very small Safetys. And with the players they lost over the last few months, and how poor their run defense was, makes you wonder why they did what they did.
 
well let me try and re-emphize the point i was trying to make...their run defense was horrible last year...besides freeney who is another solid starter on their DL?...monte reagor?...i'm a huge tech fan as ya'll know but he's not a quality starter...they lost marcus washington who was a great linebacker and who did they replace him with?...no one...the point is they didn't draft the positions they needed the most help at...which is great for us...cause in three years when they are getting hit hard with the cap problems of harrison, manning, and james we'll probably be able to pick up quality players from their team
 
Here's a video of the Colts' top pick, Sanders: http://homepage.mac.com/scothawk/iMovieTheater47.html

My first impression was pretty good, but when I watched it the second time around I have more doubts about how his game will translate to the NFL. If you notice throughout the video he doesn't wrap-up tackle, instead he propels himself headfirst into guys, which makes it a bit hit or miss--something you don't want in a safety. I also noticed that he bounces off guys (even a QB) without bringing them down, this is all the tape I've seen so maybe I'm wrong, but I think in a Andre Johnson (6-2 220) v. Bob Sanders (5-8 200) collision in the middle of the field that Andre may get the best of it.
 
Who is their replacement for Marcus Washington (I think it was him that went to the Skins)?
 
CaptainPatriot said:
I`m not a Colts Fan but I think Bob Sanders will do good!
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He could be great, but with the departure of Marcus Robinson and Harrison becoming a FA, this could be the last year for the Colts to get to the promise land. With the 100 billion dollars they gave to Manning, they might not be able to resign Harrison without cutting some other players or they will have to let him walk. Unless he for the Colts for less money...
 
i couldn't imagine them letting harrison go...i could see them letting james go just because he's been hurt enough not to really franchise back they were hopeing for...but they'll keep harrison because besides him who is the go to guy on the team?...they should be able to afford him too...every team is able to afford a franchise QB and a franchise WR right?
 
keyfro said:
i couldn't imagine them letting harrison go...i could see them letting james go just because he's been hurt enough not to really franchise back they were hopeing for...but they'll keep harrison because besides him who is the go to guy on the team?...they should be able to afford him too...every team is able to afford a franchise QB and a franchise WR right?
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It seems that you can afford either:

A: A solid team with no QB/WR stars.
Baltimore/Carolina/Miami

B: Or a great duo or trio, but the team as a whole isnt solid.
St. Louis/Indy/Kansas City


But no team IMO, will be great, without a stud RB.
 
DC_ROCK said:
It seems that you can afford either:

A: A solid team with no QB/WR stars.
Baltimore/Carolina/Miami

B: Or a great duo or trio, but the team as a whole isnt solid.
St. Louis/Indy/Kansas City
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A

Baltimore is still trying to develope Kyle Boller who can turn into a franchicse QB still.

Miami has C Chambers, so there's your WR star. Not to mention David Boston, yes he had a bad yr with Chargers, but remember his AZ Cardinals Days.

B

KC has no trio, they don't even have a duo. I don't count T Green as being a franchise QB. BUt yes I can't wait to see people argue me on that. P Holmes is all KC has over QB/RB/WR
 
the thing is i know that having a salary cap is a good thing for the overall league and that it creates fairness in the league...but it's not fair to us fans to see our teams best players get taken away in FA because the money isn't there...sure the player can take less money and stay but who is gonna turn down millions of dollars...no one...except pat tillman that is...anyways...i'm sure the colts will decide to keep the trio and hope for a blue collar defense to step up...with that being said...what would you prefer the texans choice when it comes time for us to try and afford carr, andre, and davis?
 
HoustonTexansAreTheBest said:
How about the NE Patriots who won two SB without the greatest of RBs
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I dont think people give Smith the credit he deserves. I guess i jumped the gun when I said stud back. What I should have said, is proven back. Smith holds on to the ball, doesnt have the greatest line, plays in snow.
 
I would rate Antowain Smith as one of the top 10, maybe even top 5, worst starting HB's in the NFL last season. I think Kevin Faulk bailed them out a lot on 3rd downs.

Smith played well in 2001 though. That was probably his best season in the NFL.
 
keyfro said:
...what would you prefer the texans choice when it comes time for us to try and afford carr, andre, and davis?
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We'll worry about that when the time comes. Hopefully one of the three will be willing to take a pay cut. I don't even want to think about the worst case senario.
 
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